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For all those who worry about a bricked device with rooting, fear no more.......
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/16/verizon-begins-charging-full-price
I received this link from my buddy who works internally for Verizon this morning, after i asked him about this two weeks ago as some rumors were floating around saying VZW would charge you full price if you rooted and needed a replacement
This is in no way a guaranty that you will not be charged, any time you root your device you void your warranty blah blah blah
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VZW may not check, but HTC probably will. HTC may be "root friendly" but they don't want bad press about their products, either. If HTC finds evidence of root, there is nothing to stop them from reporting that to VZW, who will likely charge you full retail price for the reburbished phone they sent you as a replacement.
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VZW may not check, but HTC probably will. HTC may be "root friendly" but they don't want bad press about their products, either. If HTC finds evidence of root, there is nothing to stop them from reporting that to VZW, who will likely charge you full retail price for the reburbished phone they sent you as a replacement.
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Nope, not correct sir, but I see what your thinking, once the device passes the 3 checks, it gets sent off to be broken down for refurb device parts
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Verizon might not, but their contracted refurb centers do.
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Verizon might not, but their contracted refurb centers do.
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Exactly. Just file an insurance claim and be done with it.
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Verizon might not, but their contracted refurb centers do.
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Doesn't matter, cause the refurb centers can't charge you as well as there is no path for them to turn around and tell VZW that a device was rooted, once the receiving warehouse verifies the meid and the 3 physical checks its sent off to the refurb center to be taken apart, I worked for Big red for 6 years, once it leaves the receiving warehouse it's gone, so even if they (refurb center) did it wouldnt matter
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Exactly. Just file an insurance claim and be done with it.
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Free vs $90 or whatever it is......Hummm.......... Think I'll take the free option
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It still amazes me that people think businesses won't protect themselves from scammers. They may not make it a priority to catch every single one, but spot checks will happen. It would be a really horrible business practice to allow everyone to scam you out of your own product.
Link all the articles you want, but when they show their numbers for Quarter/Year, they'll take note on how much money was lost to "defective" merchandise. If that number is abnormally high...your ass will be grass when they start investigating the new returns.
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Free vs $90 or whatever it is......Hummm.......... Think I'll take the free option
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90 bucks vs whatever they charge if they find it rooted...
I'm guessing it depends on where it goes. Regardless, i'll pay the insurance just in case.
Kind of like car insurance, haven't used it in 10+ years, but still carry it.
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VZW may not check, but HTC probably will. HTC may be "root friendly" but they don't want bad press about their products, either. If HTC finds evidence of root, there is nothing to stop them from reporting that to VZW, who will likely charge you full retail price for the reburbished phone they sent you as a replacement.
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I dunno about that I got mine replaced, but then again the screen was water logged so perhaps there wasn't a way to check without powering on screen. I've known many people who have turned in rooted phones and never had a problem...
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It still amazes me that people think businesses won't protect themselves from scammers. They may not make it a priority to catch every single one, but spot checks will happen. It would be a really horrible business practice to allow everyone to scam you out of your own product.
Link all the articles you want, but when they show their numbers for Quarter/Year, they'll take note on how much money was lost to "defective" merchandise. If that number is abnormally high...your ass will be grass when they start investigating the new returns.
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1.4 million customers and of that 260,000 thunderbolts.....of that 25,000 to 50,000 rooted, and that's a liberal number it's probably less, I'm no math major but I doubt there will be any major impact on "defective" merch and Verizon has an internal sop with equipment and issues, if the "defective" device replacements hits a certain %, the device moves to "end of life" and they stop carrying it, it's that simple, they're not going to investigate anything
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Keep believing that...
Cause no one at Verizon has a clue.
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Keep believing that...
Cause no one at Verizon has a clue.
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It's not a matter of believing, it's a matter of knowing, and I am, hence the signature
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Says everything I needed to know. Moving on...
Maybe Verizon wont, but somewhere along the line someone will know.
Every time you do this you are signing a petition begging carriers and manufacturers to lock down their devices and persecute the root community.
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You can't talk sense to these people, they just keep going and going and complain later when the companies institute crazy rules and pricing. It's illegal, plain and simple, but you'll never convince them of anything.
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Says everything I needed to know. Moving on...
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Was more intended as a reference to the GB Rom vs the XDA Noob Video, but whatever flips your skirt lol
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Maybe Verizon wont, but somewhere along the line someone will know.
Every time you do this you are signing a petition begging carriers and manufacturers to lock down their devices and persecute the root community.
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I agree, carnage, but we must still try. Unfortunately, too many people think only of short term selfish benefit, and not about long-term consequences for the whole community.
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You can't talk sense to these people, they just keep going and going and complain later when the companies institute crazy rules and pricing. It's illegal, plain and simple, but you'll never convince them of anything.
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not to add fuel to the fire but it is not illegal to root your phone.. and aren't you yourself falling into the category of "people" that refuse to believe what others have to say as true?
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For all those who worry about a bricked device with rooting, fear no more.......
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/16/verizon-begins-charging-full-price
I received this link from my buddy who works internally for Verizon this morning, after i asked him about this two weeks ago as some rumors were floating around saying VZW would charge you full price if you rooted and needed a replacement
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Your internal friend gave you a link to an android blog site...
cool story bro
so im useing my inspire 4g on att, i have been paying the $5 bucks a month for insurance for a year, i know that if i lose my phone it will cost $125 bucks to get a new inspire, i also know that the inspire is branded to att, so i got a couple questions, what if i was to throw away the sim card i have now and go claim that my phone is lost, could i then buy a new inspire for $125 and switch the sim card back and forth if i so desired?, and would they notice if i did? i want to use one sim card in two different inspires? any one have any info or opinions on this?
Insurance fraud.
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Insurance fraud.
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And IMEI's are recorded...
fraud huh, so life in prison huh, lol, so about the IMEI's being recorded, am i gunna get caught, ill sleep in the bed ive made when that time comes, but do they keep close tabs on these kinda things? and lets say i dident use my insurance and just bought one flat out, would i then be able to switch the sim back and forth with no problems?
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fraud huh, so life in prison huh, lol, so about the IMEI's being recorded, am i gunna get caught, ill sleep in the bed ive made when that time comes, but do they keep close tabs on these kinda things? and lets say i dident use my insurance and just bought one flat out, would i then be able to switch the sim back and forth with no problems?
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Yeah if you bought one flat out, like off contract and everything. That wouldn't be a problem. And I suppose if you got caught trying to report a lost phone to get another one, the worst they can do is charge you for the phone?
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I called the cops.
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ooh the cops...
dang wouldent want to mess with big scary cops, lol, i hope your jokeing, because thats sad... man im scared now, i think i should run to mexico... lol, your great
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Sorry for the stupid question but how much does this device cost with a 2 yr contract with T-Mobile. The website says 149$ now but is that the final price or will the final price be 50$ after mail in rebate? And is the price gonna drop anytime soon(hopefully on September) I want this phone more than anything right now but 149 is just too damn much for me.
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How about you call T-Mobile ask them....
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How about you call T-Mobile ask them....
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You know...that's so crazy it just might work!
It's been free on line numerous times.
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It's been free on line numerous times.
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Yea I've had the chance many times but Im hopeful that the Christmas season and the possibility of the HTC one x + coming to T-Mobile will drop the price significantly. My phone upgrade is on the 18th of October so all these will hopefully lower the price to like 50$
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lonoguge said:
Sorry for the stupid question but how much does this device cost with a 2 yr contract with T-Mobile. The website says 149$ now but is that the final price or will the final price be 50$ after mail in rebate? And is the price gonna drop anytime soon(hopefully on September) I want this phone more than anything right now but 149 is just too damn much for me.
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On T-Mobile's USA website this phone is $149, after $50 rebate. You can get this phone in Bestbuy for $79 and no rebate needed. I was on bestbuy's website and the phone was $79
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On T-Mobile's USA website this phone is $149, after $50 rebate. You can get this phone in Bestbuy for $79 and no rebate needed. I was on bestbuy's website and the phone was $79
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Holy crap that's a good deal! Its like half cheaper! Did you get it with a 2 year contract
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Holy crap that's a good deal! Its like half cheaper! Did you get it with a 2 year contract
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Yes with 2 year contract! There is one weird thing that happed. I had an older data plan which had unlimited fot $20. It was before the time when T-Mobile introduced 2G/5 and 10GB plans. On all other phones that I had including: Galaxy S and S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, Nokia Win 7 phone and so on, I was able to use Wifi HotSpot with that old data plan. Now when I got HTC One S, it stopped working and every time I wanted to activate hotspot on my phone, a page would open up, stating that I need to pay for $15 extra... So I called customer care and told them the above story. She told me that my plan is old and about 6 months ago the company started to monitor and charge users for hotspot service. She said I would have to pay $35 total. So at the end I made her do it for $20 for 2 year. So now I have new plan with 5GB+hotspot. I think phones with Android 4+ t-mobile started to block users without hotspot plan. So you know.
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Yes with 2 year contract! There is one weird thing that happed. I had an older data plan which had unlimited fot $20. It was before the time when T-Mobile introduced 2G/5 and 10GB plans. On all other phones that I had including: Galaxy S and S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, Nokia Win 7 phone and so on, I was able to use Wifi HotSpot with that old data plan. Now when I got HTC One S, it stopped working and every time I wanted to activate hotspot on my phone, a page would open up, stating that I need to pay for $15 extra... So I called customer care and told them the above story. She told me that my plan is old and about 6 months ago the company started to monitor and charge users for hotspot service. She said I would have to pay $35 total. So at the end I made her do it for $20 for 2 year. So now I have new plan with 5GB+hotspot. I think phones with Android 4+ t-mobile started to block users without hotspot plan. So you know.
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Wow that sucks! I'm assuming that since you're on xda your phone is rooted which means you can get FREE wifi tethering apps in fact that's one of the main reason people root in the first place. You should look onto it if you don't already know by now. Its just what you need!
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Wow that sucks! I'm assuming that since you're on xda your phone is rooted which means you can get FREE wifi tethering apps in fact that's one of the main reason people root in the first place. You should look onto it if you don't already know by now. Its just what you need!
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I have a newer data plan with hotspot for the same price as was my old one, so I am happy.
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I have a newer data plan with hotspot for the same price as was my old one, so I am happy.
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Oh OK lol
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Just found out that ISIS is not compatible with the Verizon Galaxy S3! How stupid can you be, their top selling phone next to the iPhone and you are starting off a service by not making a top phone compatible? Who ever is in charge of ISIS should be fired.
It is possible to do as TMobile has made it possible. Instead Verizon has terrible phones that basically no one buys available to the service.
Just disgusts me.
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So Vzw cripples the s3 from using Google wallet and to top it off Vzw's homebrew wallet won't work talk about stuck
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that is the thing I don't understand. One of if not your best selling handset you don't have available at this launch? Really? Terrible
Welcome to Verizon. Enjoy your stay.
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Did you go into Verizon and get a new SIM for it? I had to do that on AT&T and ISIS works for me now. (fully stock s3)
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Just found out that ISIS is not compatible with the Verizon Galaxy S3! How stupid can you be, their top selling phone next to the iPhone and you are starting off a service by not making a top phone compatible? Who ever is in charge of ISIS should be fired.
It is possible to do as TMobile has made it possible. Instead Verizon has terrible phones that basically no one buys available to the service.
Just disgusts me.
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All you need is a new SIM.
i called the local verizon store here and they said no, the S3 will not work with the new sim yet. Are you guys hearing something different?
Yet another example of the stupidity, fragmentation and stuff that doesn't work in Android. The carriers decide how to squeeze every last dollar out of users, Google doesn't bother to enforce anything and only cares about Nexus, oem's ignore Android standards.
Just watch while next year Apple comes out with its own branded NFC system and everyone will fall over backwards trying to support it. Then we can whine and moan about how 'Android did it years ago' while Apple will get a patent, millions of users overnight, and become the standard.
Apparently the only Verizon phone to support it is the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
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Apparently the only Verizon phone to support it is the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
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This is what I thought. I also thought it unethical for Verizon to block Google wallet especially since their alternative isn't functional.
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This is what I thought. I also thought it unethical for Verizon to block Google wallet especially since their alternative isn't functional.
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Yup. I'm really getting tired of Verizon being a dictatorship. THEY say what we get. Even though I plunk down $600+ for a new phone, or $200-$300 if it's an upgrade, (I can't use a phone for 2 years, I get bored) I don't get to use it the way I want to. Ridiculous.
To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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Because they see all garbage? It's just picking the lesser of evils.
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Because they see all garbage? It's just picking the lesser of evils.
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Correct, they all do the same thing.
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To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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Well for some of us there is no good alternative to Verizon. We had AT&T since the first car phone came out. I had full service when I owned the original RAZR and we didn't even have 2g just regular whatever service. Then they upgraded the towers after Cingular was bought by AT&T and service got so bad that we had one bar inside but if we wanted to make a call we had to step outside on the porch. Then when 3g came we didn't have ANY service whatsoever in a mile radius. So for some of us we aren't there aren't any viable alternatives.
Plus Verizon has better service than any other provider I have ever been with, they are just dictators with their phones.
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Nothing has been set in stone. A friend of mine explained the reason the S3 isn't working yet is that the firmware needs to be updated to use the newer sim system to allow ISIS to work (due to the LTE hardware that Samsung uses).
I expect this will be resolved shortly. As of right now ISIS is still in testing phases anyways. Verizon invested a lot of money in ISIS. It's in their best interest to get it working.
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To the people who aren't happy on Verizon, why not pay your eft or wait until your contract ends and leave to another carrier?
While you may see them as a dictatorship it was your decision to sign a contract with them. Research is key and living with your decisions, good or bad, is a part of life. We ultimately are to blame.
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You don't think we know about this option?
The reason I don't leave? Because I've had every major carrier, and Verizon has the best, most reliable coverage.
Doesn't mean I'm still not tired of their BS.
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Two years ago things were different than today. Much more things incorporated in the wireless community, specifically Verizon's to accept everything that they throw at US
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You don't think we know about this option?
The reason I don't leave? Because I've had every major carrier, and Verizon has the best, most reliable coverage.
Doesn't mean I'm still not tired of their BS.
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I didn't say you couldn't be tired of their bs. I'm not always thrilled with them either, but that's true with almost all companies. But when people throw around words like "dictatorship" and the like, it's extreme to say the least.
All I'm saying is at the end of the day we choose what we choose. We take the good and the bad with it.
Complaining about stuff like this is comparable to me buying a Hummer and then complaining that it has bad mpg.
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So I went into the store today, S3 is not supported officially. Maybe in the future.
I don't understand why you start of your brand with the worst phones that basically have zero users compared to the S3
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Okay so I'm 18 have a minimum wage job "yay my life is so great" blah. Minimum wage here is $7.25 btw. But I feel like taking on some responsibility and leaving my parents cellphone plan (AT&T) and going to T-Mobile. Good idea or no? Sprint is pointless in my area because it barely gets any service here. And Verizon. Just no. Any sort of input is gladly taken into consideration and thanks for all the help! ;*<3
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One way to find out is to go into your local cellphone provider establishment and ask how far do reception go. Be sure to ask about their packages there a plan for anyone.
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One way to find out is to go into your local cellphone provider establishment and ask how far do reception go. Be sure to ask about their packages there a plan for anyone.
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Well from what I know t-mobile in my area gets 3g and at&t gets 4g. But At&t just screws you over. I compared and t-mobile is like $60 a month and at&t is $80 with same exact service package. Just trying to figure out if it's a good idea
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Well from what I know t-mobile in my area gets 3g and at&t gets 4g. But At&t just screws you over. I compared and t-mobile is like $60 a month and at&t is $80 with same exact service package. Just trying to figure out if it's a good idea
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Go with tmobile as you can upgrade your phone whenever you want too
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Okay so I'm 18 have a minimum wage job "yay my life is so great" blah. Minimum wage here is $7.25 btw. But I feel like taking on some responsibility and leaving my parents cellphone plan (AT&T) and going to T-Mobile. Good idea or no? Sprint is pointless in my area because it barely gets any service here. And Verizon. Just no. Any sort of input is gladly taken into consideration and thanks for all the help! ;*<3
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Tmo has the best deal, $70/mo contract free with unlimited everything.. Go GSM for sure for the option of nexus just in case
I'll trade you jobs. They pay me $9/hr but treat their employees like microorganisms
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Forget all of them contract plans. Straight Talk is way cheaper( 43.22 a month), offer 4g service, att coverage, no contract, and semi-unlimited everything( talk,text,and data.) THe only drawback is that they seem to have temporarily discontinued att sim cards thus its kind of hard to find them. You probably can find one in a phone or on ebay or something.
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Forget all of them contract plans. Straight Talk is way cheaper( 43.22 a month), offer 4g service, att coverage, no contract, and semi-unlimited everything( talk,text,and data.) THe only drawback is that they seem to have temporarily discontinued att sim cards thus its kind of hard to find them. You probably can find one in a phone or on ebay or something.
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But then you can't upgrade and get a discounted price for phones
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Forget all of them contract plans. Straight Talk is way cheaper( 43.22 a month), offer 4g service, att coverage, no contract, and semi-unlimited everything( talk,text,and data.) THe only drawback is that they seem to have temporarily discontinued att sim cards thus its kind of hard to find them. You probably can find one in a phone or on ebay or something.
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only problem with this is ive seen alot of complaints online about straight talk cutting data and it being slow
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only problem with this is ive seen alot of complaints online about straight talk cutting data and it being slow
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I tested the other day and I got 8mbps down.
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But then you can't upgrade and get a discounted price for phones
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You pay for the phone in your contract. Buy a phone on swappa or some other site. The money you save off contract makes up for the up front purchase of the phone.
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You pay for the phone in your contract. Buy a phone on swappa or some other site. The money you save off contract makes up for the up front purchase of the phone.
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+1 going from $70 to $40 is $30 and then times that by 12 you save about $360 a year
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Check out Wal-Mart Family Mobile. I used them for a while. Was very happy. $45 a month for unlimited everything (throttle data after 2GB). Runs on the t-mobile network. Only concern was lack of short code and call forwarding support. Other than that, I just put my account on automatic payment and never had to contact them again after the initial setup. You pay at the end of the month (it's not prepay), there are no contracts, no credit checks, and you can even pay your bill in person at any Wal-Mart.
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