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How to Root CDMA Desire! HOOT 0.98

How to Root CDMA Desire! HOOT 0.98
Original post can be found HERE/
As many of us have researched, the Hoot on the desire is 0.98 and is hard to find any other instructions to root. Im a DROID user on the Cell South network and Last night got my hands on a Desire. The root was tricky but my friends desire is running Cyanogenmod no problem
Note: I take no resposability if you brick your phone an/or any other devices. This is just how i did it.
Instructions:
1: Download unReVoked Rooting tool. Click Here
(This tool works best if you are on linux ubuntu, windows users must install HTC Sync for the ADB Drivers)
2:Linux:
>Extract reflash, Open Terminal, Place your desire in Charge Only Mode with Debugging enabled.
> Plug in the phone and give it a few seconds to be reconized fully.
> In terminal type: cd /path/to/unrevoked then chmod +x reflash then sudo ./reflash and finally
> If it asks you for a password, use your root/user password. Unrevoked should start working and detect the phone.
Windows:
>Again Phone must be in Charge Only Mode with Debugging Enabled.
>Download the unrevoked package, Run the EXE. If you have HTC Sync installed it should detect the phone.
>Works same as Linux, Patience is a virtue.
(DO NOT CLOSE THE PROGRAM UNTIL IT SAYS ITS DONE!!. YOU WILL BRICK YOUR ****)
3. Unrevoked will begin working its magic, Your phone will reboot about 2-3 times. Be Patient!
> When its all over you will be brought to the recovery menu. (Green writing)
> Ours spit out some error code, but i restarted the phone and re entered recovery mode by holding down (Vol Down + Power)\
>You will be brought to a white screen HTC Labeled, Wait for hoot then do volume down to recovery, Push power.
4. After you have re-entered, Go down to manage and backup to Backup your stock ROM.
>Push back after the process has completed.
> Wipe the Device, then press back
> Go to mount and unmount storage.
> Mount your storage card to the computer.
5: After you have your phone plugged in make a folder on the memory card called Roms and Kernels (Whatever you prefer really).
> Go download the latest nightly/stable rom from the BravoC thread.
Click here for BravoC Roms
6:After download, Place the zip into the memory card in the Roms and Kernels folder i asked to make.
> On the android, when the file is done copying, unmount the memory card from the pc.
> Then in recovery menu, install zip file.
> Choose from SD Card
> Go to Roms and Kernels Folder.
> Select the file you downloaded.
> Click yes and enjoy!
7. You can download the Google Addon for your desire Here
YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ROOTED and flashed YOUR DESIRE, This works on Cellular South, US Cellular, and other BravoC Desires with the 0.98 Hoot.
Don't forget to say thanks!

I have been looking to do this for a long time. And it worked great, the only problem is I don't understand the rom.

in the second step when it says:
> If it asks you for a password, use your root password. Unrevoked should start working and detect the phone.
you should use your user password, not the root password.
(of course your user must be a member of the sudoers group)

No need for passwords. But wish I had my HTC Clock and Calendar back.

You lose some you gain some buddy. there is a clock, look up fancy widget 1. 3 apk in your google box. and you can get it free.. Not gnna post a link cause of the rules. but its the ported HTC clock.

Thanks, but didn't care for that clock, saw one for $2 but couldn't get it to display so I uninstalled it. I know about "Win some, loose some" After all I have had a WinMobile phone for a couple years. And started flashing ROM's since the Touch Pro. My problem is, by the time I find a perfect ROM, I upgrade to a different phone. Did that with the TP1, and again with the TP2. Now the search begins again with the Desire. Actually the only problem I had with the stock 2.1 rom was that I kept running out of room. But thanks for the help and I am off again to find the perfect CDMA ROM!!!

awesome! just got my desire last night. to be sure after i root i will lose clock and calender? also (sorry, maybe a noob question) i like the sence, wasnt a big fanof AOSP and i notice all the Rom's here seem to be for GSM not CDMA. if i was to root and run the stock 2.1 and get rid of all the junk apps in it would that be possible? and lastly, does anybody know if there is a RUU for Csouth's desire incase i need to go back to original like we could with the hero?

leadfoot9281 said:
awesome! just got my desire last night. to be sure after i root i will lose clock and calender? also (sorry, maybe a noob question) i like the sence, wasnt a big fanof AOSP and i notice all the Rom's here seem to be for GSM not CDMA. if i was to root and run the stock 2.1 and get rid of all the junk apps in it would that be possible? and lastly, does anybody know if there is a RUU for Csouth's desire incase i need to go back to original like we could with the hero?
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1. You shouldn't lose clock and calender.
2. After you root, install Titanium Backup. It will allow you to uninstall those apps you don't want.
3. No RUU's available for CDMA at this time. Make sure you do a nandroid backup immediately after rooting

uhh buddy there is a RUU out for it. Thats what the recovery menu basically is, the installer for the zip file. Cyanogen Mod is the ROM. To keep your Cellular South ROM you just backup like the instructions say, if you ever want to go back you Wipe the device and restore the image from your SD Card. Theres a link to Cyan in the main post. RC1 Came out yesterday!

[SP]JESTER said:
uhh buddy there is a RUU out for it. Thats what the recovery menu basically is, the installer for the zip file. Cyanogen Mod is the ROM. To keep your Cellular South ROM you just backup like the instructions say, if you ever want to go back you Wipe the device and restore the image from your SD Card. Theres a link to Cyan in the main post. RC1 Came out yesterday!
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when i said RUU i meant a stock RUU put out by Csouth just like they gave us for the hero. it would put your phone back exactly like it was when you took it out of the box so if you needed to take it back to the store for whatever reason you could simply use it to go back to original.

ok guys one more question, i got root just fine. gonna keep running my stock rom but when i installed titanium backup (never used it before) it said busybox not installed and i dont have root access. i do have root cuz shoot me is working. i searched busybox in market and it says wont work for the desire yet.. any ideas? i ran into this problem with SU on my hero and had to change to the chainsDD version of SU. could this be the same thing?
ALSO: trying to use ADB and it says permission denied.
EDIT . Spoke to soon and did unrevoked forever and seems to all be working now.

Hi,
I am new to this sort of thing. I just got my phone and I am following this guide and I am thinking about trying it on my phone. Here's what I've got:
HTC Desire
Running Android 2.1
Alltel is my service provider
This is the information I get when I boot up my phone while holding the "back" button:
Bravoc DVT2 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.98.0000
MicroP-051e
Touch Panel-SYNT0101
Radio-2.05.10.08.11
Jul. 5, 2010, 19:14:11
Will this guide work with my phone?
The sole reason I'm wanting to do this is because I want to use a Wii remote with emulators on my phone. I am aware that there is an Android app that will do so, but that app doesn't work with phones that use HTC's "sense". I'm also aware that there are certain third-party wireless bluetooth controllers, but don't want to use them. So, I've been told that my only option is to root the phone so that I can have a custom ROM on it. If there is another way to do this without rooting, I'd love to know what that is.
Any information pertaining to any of this would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.

hovage said:
Hi,
I am new to this sort of thing. I just got my phone and I am following this guide and I am thinking about trying it on my phone. Here's what I've got:
HTC Desire
Running Android 2.1
Alltel is my service provider
This is the information I get when I boot up my phone while holding the "back" button:
Bravoc DVT2 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.98.0000
MicroP-051e
Touch Panel-SYNT0101
Radio-2.05.10.08.11
Jul. 5, 2010, 19:14:11
Will this guide work with my phone?
The sole reason I'm wanting to do this is because I want to use a Wii remote with emulators on my phone. I am aware that there is an Android app that will do so, but that app doesn't work with phones that use HTC's "sense". I'm also aware that there are certain third-party wireless bluetooth controllers, but don't want to use them. So, I've been told that my only option is to root the phone so that I can have a custom ROM on it. If there is another way to do this without rooting, I'd love to know what that is.
Any information pertaining to any of this would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Rooting is the only way to flash a custom Rom and yes unrevoked will work with your hboot. Not sure about any of the wii stuff your talking about tho.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using XDA App

Thanks. And one other question I forgot to ask: Suppose I do this and an update to android 2.2 comes out for my phone. What should I do then?

If they give you a ruu just do it like normal, but as soon as they do cone out with a ruu for it whether its uscc or cellular south, there will be a custom Rom made from it.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using XDA App

Fail
unrevoked "fails to push recovery image"
any advice?

blind_fury6342 said:
unrevoked "fails to push recovery image"
any advice?
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Check the MD5 checksum for the Reflash_Package.exe
Most likely a corrupted installation.

I have the same phone/hboot/ etc...
I was able to root with unrevoked, no problem. I did get an error in the recovery at the end but per this guide, that seems to be normal.
I was able to run a backup in nandroid, which also worked, but I noticed S-on didn't change to S-off. Is this normal for this phone? Should I try rerunning unrevoked?

dills2214 said:
I have the same phone/hboot/ etc...
I was able to root with unrevoked, no problem. I did get an error in the recovery at the end but per this guide, that seems to be normal.
I was able to run a backup in nandroid, which also worked, but I noticed S-on didn't change to S-off. Is this normal for this phone? Should I try rerunning unrevoked?
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I had this same issue. I did some research and there is a thread on unrevoked wiki that has an updated unrevoked-forever.zip to flash that gives us successful S-off. There seems to be a problem with S-off ing this route though. After it was complete, the APN info was gone and MMS settings were blank. I used APN backup/restore to put APN info back in, but still would not send/receive. I had to restore MMS via Goldcard, which changed back to S-on. Any ideas?

Since this seems to be the only generic CDMA Desire thread, I have some questions for other CDMA Desire owners. First, the only rom I can find with everything working is CM, but not sure I like the way it looks. I'm looking for a Sense rom. Anyone running a stable one? Second, I have found a rom called Ultimate Droid 2.3 and 2.4 for CDMA desire that looks worth trying. Anybody running it or tried it yet? 3rd, is there any other good forums specifically for CDMA desire? I am sick of having to weed through the billions of GSM threads to find a CDMA one...
link to Ultimate Droid roms: http://theultimatedroid.com/forum/index.php?/forum/33-htc-desire-releases-cdma/

[Q] Quasi-Bricked?

Hello! I'm a long-time lurk and this is my first post. Why? Because you folks at XDA are extremely knowledgeable and very helpful! I actually enjoy reading the forums and usually can find my answer using search. Call me a masochist, I guess. I just wish I had the chops to develop and not just be a continuous noobish sponge. I have successfully rooted my own Inspire with Bubby’s method and have flashed several radios and ROMs, no problem (knock on wood).
Anywho, I have searched and have seen similar issues to mine, but I have what I consider a more unique problem (which, if I’m wrong, I’m sure you fine folks will let me know). I attempted to root my brother’s Inspire over the weekend and it is currently showing a black screen with three vibrations and amber light (If I try to go to Hboot manually, I get five whole vibrations with a green light). I can, though, pull the battery for 5 minutes or so, then the phone will boot normally. Although I think it’s on the downgraded ROM, because it shows the funky AT&T splashscreen instead of HTC. What I did was attempt root with Bubby’s and got stuck at the boot screen when the phone was trying to flash the PD98IMG.zip (downgrade I believe) after making the goldcard. It would show that it was trying to read the zip, however I never would get the “volume up to upgrade” option. I tried this three times. When that failed, I tried rooting with the Ace Hack Kit and after creating the goldcard image, when the script tried to reboot the phone to install the downgrade, I got the black screen, amber light with the 3 vibrations. My problem is that I don’t have root, can’t get to recovery from the Hboot screen (shows red exclamation with triangle) and was unable to install Clockworks Mod thru ROM manager because I’m not rooted, so no SuperUser privileges.
What can I do at this point? Maybe off base, but I believe I have somehow corrupted the boot partition or the like, including screwing up Hboot. Is it possible to fix this if I am not able to reboot without pulling the battery? I have tried going thru Bubby’s and the Ace kit again, but always fail when the phone reboots.
Thanks for your help!

I am far from an expert, or even a novice, but to me it sounds like you have a corrupted download for the bubbys one click.... Have you checked the Md5 on the downloaded file?
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

I could lie and say yes, but no I didn't check md5 the first go around (although I did the 2nd time I reinstalled, after it screwed up). I did have all antivirus programs uninstalled and firewall turned off.

It does sound like you got the downgrade rom without root. Go back to the hack kit. With the gold card in the phone, turn on usb debugging and connect to the pc in the charge only mode. Run menu number 3 in the hack kit.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

@OP:
Follow the files and instructions in this post to get back to stock so u can start fresh. I followed these to get back to stock only today evening, and it worked.
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TO RETURN TO STOCK:
Make sure you S-ON (if able) BEFORE you Unroot. The S-On tool needs root permissions to function.
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Turn the phone on, connect to computer, and perform step 1. Make sure USB debugging is enabled.
Step 1 (S-On):
Run Bubby323's S-On tool: S-On Tool
Step 2 (STOCK ROM in ZIP FORMAT):
Place this .zip file on the root of your SD card. Disable fast boot in settings > applications. Turn off your phone. Hold down the volume down button and the power button at the same time. The phone will reboot into hboot. It will load the ROM automatically. Follow the steps to flash the ROM.
http://www.multiupload.com/JELMZNSKDF
I did this like a couple hours back, and mine's back to stock.
Note: I consolidated the links here from various posts on this forum.

Diablo: Was posting the reply below, when I saw your message. Would you still recommend I follow your steps to unroot, return to stock and run hack again?
Update: Well, I went thru Bubby’s root process again and was able to get the phone rooted (had to pull battery and wait 4 minutes when it needed to reboot). And I have confirmed root was successful. I also used Bubby’s fix to Eng S-Off (couldn’t hurt, right?). The phone now has the latest Android Revolution with Sense and the radio has been flashed (including full wipe and EXT4 wipe). However, it STILL won’t reboot correctly. I can boot directly into Clockwork from ROM Manager, but if I try to reboot normally (hold down power button and select restart), I get the black screen, amber light and 3 vibrations. Again, pull battery and wait 4 minutes and either power button to boot normally or power and volume down to get to Hboot works fine and goes to Clockwork from Hboot fine also. I guess I can keep up with the batter pull only when I have to manually restart, but WTH? There has got to be a fix for the reboot issue. Any ideas?

fernandezhjr said:
It does sound like you got the downgrade rom without root. Go back to the hack kit. With the gold card in the phone, turn on usb debugging and connect to the pc in the charge only mode. Run menu number 3 in the hack kit.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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Thanks, but tried that earlier on and couldn't continue on with steps in hack kit.

ogarlen said:
...I also used Bubby's fix to Eng S-Off (couldn't hurt, right?)...
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Well, actually, wrong, it could hurt. I'm not saying that's the cause of your problems, but you really should've read up a little more before clicking on stuff so nonchalantly.
Eng s-Off means the engineering bootloader. If that process were to fail while in the midst of performing it on your phone, it would most likely hard-brick it.
Not to mention it's unnecessary. It was only included in that rooting method at the time for flashing radios, I believe, and since then a safer method for doing so has come into standard usage that doesn't require eng s-Off.
It's also one method of resolving the cwr blackscreen people were having, where you're actually in cwr, but the screen is black so you can't see what your doing. Not the same black screen your seeing, I don't think, because you're able to at least get into cwr.

ogarlen said:
Thanks, but tried that earlier on and couldn't continue on with steps in hack kit.
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The vibrations with the blinking led, I have seen a few posts with this. Sadly, I haven't seen anyone post a fix yet.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Fernandezhjir: I understand your sentiment, however my situation does seem to be a little different than the other posts, so there may be hope yet.
Scott: You're absolutely right (as if you need me to confirm that) that it could hurt. My sarcasm didn't come over very well without a wink-smiley or the like. As I mentioned before, I have read the forums and the other posts on the difference between radio s-off and eng s-off and how dangerous it can be. Actually Bubby's program fairly adequately describes that taking that step can possibly brick your phone and when you should consider taking the risk. I was desperate and dumb and poking fun at myself in my post.
Any advice with my current situation? Everything on the phone is working fine unless I try to normal restart, then I get the amber light with 3 vibrations. Again, battery pull for 4+ minutes then resinsert and power works and I can get to Hboot and Clockwork okay.

ogarlen said:
Fernandezhjir: I understand your sentiment, however my situation does seem to be a little different than the other posts, so there may be hope yet.
Scott: You're absolutely right (as if you need me to confirm that) that it could hurt. My sarcasm didn't come over very well without a wink-smiley or the like. As I mentioned before, I have read the forums and the other posts on the difference between radio s-off and eng s-off and how dangerous it can be. Actually Bubby's program fairly adequately describes that taking that step can possibly brick your phone and when you should consider taking the risk. I was desperate and dumb and poking fun at myself in my post.
Any advice with my current situation? Everything on the phone is working fine unless I try to normal restart, then I get the amber light with 3 vibrations. Again, battery pull for 4+ minutes then resinsert and power works and I can get to Hboot and Clockwork okay.
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Heh. Now that you explain it, I can see the sarcasm. I'm usually good a picking up on it, but you know how these internet textual posts go....smilies are crucial...
As to your problem, there seem to be a few posts in recent days describing the led/vibrations type of symptom.
I don't know if they're interrelated or not. I don't have an answer, but I'm curious and will drop in if I manage to come across any pertinent information.

Thanks for the replies! I will continue to research and update this thread if I find a solution. I really believe that it has something to do with the startup processes or boot cache or some other $10 phrase related to what happens when the phone is attempting to startup normally. I appreciate all help.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

Just wanted to add a quick update for anyone searching that comes across this post: The phone in question is now working flawlessly (knock on wood). Restarting, power down and battery pulls work with no problems (no vibrations or flashes). I am honestly unsure what I did to cause this error or what the resolution was and can only speculate. Since my last post, I have made a Nandroid backup and flashed a couple ROMs (namely AR with Sense, then Virtuous Unity with full wipes in between), so I assume that somewhere in there the corrupted boot files (or whatever) were corrected. All's well that ends well...

Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.

Wolf_2 said:
Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.
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Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.

seems like you got yourself a good taste of rom flashing issues. that's a good thing. i know that you have everything working flawlessly now, BUT i would still HIGHLY recommend that you download the Super Wipe script from the Android revolution thread and use that to completely wipe and format your partitions, then do a FULL wipe through clockwork and then install whatever ROM you would like. but i cant stress enough, MAKE SURE that the Md5 sums match always. this can be the difference between a working rom and a bricked phone. also i would like to add that through my experience i usually find that the first time you root the inspire, the very first rom you install on it almost always has issues. that's how it is for me atleast. Ive rooted plenty of Inspire's and all of them have had some sort of issue on the first flash. and as always, follow the directions per rom to the T or else it might not work.
P.S. Some roms run better with matching Radio and RIL. flashing these is AWLAYS good practice to get your phone to tunr the best possible.

Wolf_2 said:
Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.
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Gene Poole said:
Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.
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Thats why I posted the full steps in the guide , to s-on and ruu back to stock. On a side note bubbies s-on tool does not always work.
On another side note, Genepoole would be interested in wrighting a script for the s-on/return t stock process to make it a little more automated? The steps right now are flashing back to stock then re rooting, then entering gfree s-off on then re running the ruu.

mudknot2005 said:
On another side note, Genepoole would be interested in wrighting a script for the s-on/return t stock process to make it a little more automated? The steps right now are flashing back to stock then re rooting, then entering gfree s-off on then re running the ruu.
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I have actually considered this. The current methods require a complete downgrade just like rooting when all you really need for gfree to work is the radio and kernel from the downgrade ROM.

Gene Poole said:
Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.
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You are correct. I should have re phrased that differently. I know that S-Off would survive the RUU procedure so I should have said "almost out of the box". The RUU is still a very handy thing to have.

Gene Poole said:
I have actually considered this. The current methods require a complete downgrade just like rooting when all you really need for gfree to work is the radio and kernel from the downgrade ROM.
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Please, sir.
Seriously, this would be, imo, a profound contribution to this phone.

Questions on root/flashing ROMs on HTC sensation

Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~

tbestie said:
Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
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1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.

Alankrut said:
1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
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Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~

tbestie said:
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
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Clockwork Mod is just a recovery program to allow you to install new ROMs to your device, but most importantly, to let you backup and restore your current device configuration (like a sort of time machine). Most developers recommend Clockwork Mod (CWM) because it is so good at what it does. If anything fails, and you need to use your phone in a pinch, just revert to a CWM backup, and all's well!
So, to answer your question, unfortunately, no. One of the only ways to do that is with Titanium Backup, a program from the Android Market.
CWM is for reverting to previous incarnations of your phone's software and firmware.
Sorry I only answered one question, but it was the only one I knew how to in an effective manner.

Sorry, I can answer another!
tbestie said:
What exactly is a Radio number for?
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A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.

tbestie said:
Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
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Radio Number/Version is the version of ur radio. This is signal related.
So when updates come out they typically update the
radio and make the signal strength better.
This is something to be careful with, when changing ROMs
make sure that the some you are about to change into
supports ur radio version.
When u use ClockWork Mod to backup it will backup your current settings. So if u backup it consists of your rom , apps, settings, etc. so if u restore that then everything would be like the old one. So Yes, u would have the set everything back on the homescreen. Its ok, u will get used to that.
When they release android 2.3.5 you might have to "wipe" your phone and do it again. Maybe, depending on your rom, you might be able to flash on top of 2.3.4
H-Boot is similar to the Bios of the computer. And you know how carefully you have to be to change that.
But the H-Boot version that the 1st sticky says allows changing of certain things, thus allowing you to have root.
Feel free to ask away, im here to help you

Andresehn said:
Sorry, I can answer another!
A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
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lol. you posted both while i was writing up my response.
Its good though, because then the OP will get to read 2 times as much, which will make him even better at the terminology and the process

Lol. I'm just trying to be helpful so i can get to posting on the Dev. forums. There are plenty of easy questions there...

Appreciating the help guys =] Starting to understand a bit better!
So when i flash a new ROM, i must flash a new Radio? If i flash the recommended radio, how likely am i to get a good signal? And if im getting poor signal, i just have to keep trying new Radios? ( I Heard flashing radios is one of the ways you can brick your device)
Also with CWM - When the backup is made... do i have to keep it on the Sd card? Or can i move it to the computer so it takes up less space?
And if i understand correctly - CWM basically creates a backup just incase things go wrong you can always revert back?
... If i use titanium backup, what benefits does that bring over CWM? - Is it worth the money?
Thanks again
~Tbestie~

Also, how do i find my hboot version?

Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?

tbestie said:
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
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- Hold the power button, untill you get Shut Down, Airplane Mode or Restart.
- Click on Restart then Yes.
- Wait until all the lights on your device turn off.
- Hold the Vol. Down Button until a white screen shows.
There you'll find HBOOT-XXXXXX
This is your HBOOT version.
To get to your OS again:
- Make sure FASTBOOT is hightlighted.
- Press the <Power> button.
- Go to REBOOT by pressing Vol. Down.
- Press the <Power> button.
Hope it helps

tbestie said:
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
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You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more

Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?

claudenegm said:
You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
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How do i find/note down my old cid?

tbestie said:
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
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To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck

tbestie said:
How do i find/note down my old cid?
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I posted all the instructions in the other link I posted.
You'll find CID: XXXXX, keep this code with you, in-case you need it later for installing RUU and confused about which one to use.

claudenegm said:
To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
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Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?

tbestie said:
Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isn't backed up?
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That's exactly what happened to me when I backed up.
I think you should ignore it, as it is trying to backup an extension in the SD-Card, as you can re-partition your SD-Card using CWM as I understand.
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
Good day to you all

claudenegm said:
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
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Ignoring it is ok. sd-ext not being backed up is most likely an indicator that an EXT4 formatted portion of your SD card was not found. By default, your SD card is formatted as FAT32 because of its universal acceptance by all OSs. Some users report a performance boost/personal preference toward EXT4, YMMV.
tbestie said:
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
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Most importantly, ClockworkMod does not back up your SD card. that is something you have to do manually on your computer, should you choose to do so. CWM is only responsible for backing up the internal storage of the phone that can be changed or wiped by ROMs (or mike1986's SuperWipe.) ROMs shouldn't change the contents of the SD card.

[Q] root

Scared myself today, after reading all the posts today I took the plunge and did the s-off via htcdev, first thing I did was root with the HTC supertool, I then installed the ROM toolbox pro and ROM manager free, flashed the clockwork mod. And now I'm sure I've missed something, not sure what as I'm still a little giddy with the whole rooting thing. Question is what should I do now before I do anything to my other left arm and brick it, that would really upset me.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

Welcome to the wonderful world of root! Back up your phone now!
Reboot the phone and ensure that you can enter clockwork mod directly from boot. Confirm you actually have root on your rom by checking the version of su in the superuser application preferences.
Make a full system backup, so you have a working restore point in case you ever do anything to your phone. After that, it is safe to start playing around with root apps (overclock, wifi tethering) and roms! If anything ever does break, restore to your latest backup.

I would definitely make a NAND backup, possibly a few, just in case. Idk if it applies to you but clockworkmod recovery has given trouble to Evo users (may just be the device). But a few backups guarantee that you have a reliable one to restore if needed. Good luck and enjoy the FULL power of your phone

This is the bit that has stumped me, getting into clockwork mod from recovery. I've got su v 3.0.6, it updated this morning. When I restart the phone with Vol down button I get usual boot screen, where do I go from there, also the little green light in top right hand side below camera is blinking lots, don't remember it doing that before root
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

Bump!!!
Sorry but just had to, dare not do anything till I've got at least one backup
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

[EDIT] ok when I try to run cm from boot I end up with E: can't open/cache/recovery/command. So when I restart to bootloader I get "unlocked" "saga pvt ship s-on rl" but all the apps I have say I'm rooted. What have I missed here, someone please
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

jugg1es said:
[EDIT] ok when I try to run cm from boot I end up with E: can't open/cache/recovery/command. So when I restart to bootloader I get "unlocked" "saga pvt ship s-on rl" but all the apps I have say I'm rooted. What have I missed here, someone please
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
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Alright from the sounds of it, you're still "S-ON" meaning safety/security on. You "unlocked" the bootloader via htcdev but it is still s-on. Try running this command in terminal emulator(can be downloaded from market).
$su
#reboot recovery
I would hope that would boot to recovery. If not, then the recovery must not have flashed right :/
Btw, holding volume down+power brings you to hboot.... at the top it says s-on but, unlocked correct? But wont let you boot to recovery? Odd... try above mentioned, if a no-good, are you familiar with adb?
Sorry, that's all I got until furthermore informed...

MattMatt0240 said:
Alright from the sounds of it, you're still "S-ON" meaning safety/security on. You "unlocked" the bootloader via htcdev but it is still s-on. Try running this command in terminal emulator(can be downloaded from market).
$su
#reboot recovery
I would hope that would boot to recovery. If not, then the recovery must not have flashed right :/
Btw, holding volume down+power brings you to hboot.... at the top it says s-on but, unlocked correct? But wont let you boot to recovery? Odd... try above mentioned, if a no-good, are you familiar with adb?
Sorry, that's all I got until furthermore informed...
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Thanks for the help, your correct about the hboot. Ran terminal emulator after command #reboot recovery I was told it wasn't permitted. I havE abd but not really used it apart from the unlock process even then it was only running in the background. Saying that I can follow instruction and learn quickly and if I get a grasp of what's supposed to happen can sometimes work round it. Linux is funny, takes me back to my spectrum and BBC days. I'm new to Android but it is one of the reasons I ordered a raspberry pi.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

Thanks for your help, finally found the solution to my problem herehttp://www.androidauthority.com/desire-s-root-s-off-hboot-2-00-0002-superoneclick-74470/
Thanks again for reading and replying
Sent from my computer whilst waiting for my first backup to complete :laugh::laugh::laugh:

jugg1es said:
Thanks for your help, finally found the solution to my problem herehttp://www.androidauthority.com/desire-s-root-s-off-hboot-2-00-0002-superoneclick-74470/
Thanks again for reading and replying
Sent from my computer whilst waiting for my first backup to complete :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Sweet, glad you figured it out. I've been on rooted phones for a few years but all of mine have been s-off (s-on is a good starting point but limited). Good luck, and just make sure you research before plunging into it lol, and you should be alright... and always have a good backup. As for recoveries, Aman RA is the way to go in my opinion, but its your choice of course.
Good luck, and welcome to the world of root my friend, enjoy

MattMatt0240 said:
Sweet, glad you figured it out. I've been on rooted phones for a few years but all of mine have been s-off (s-on is a good starting point but limited). Good luck, and just make sure you research before plunging into it lol, and you should be alright... and always have a good backup. As for recoveries, Aman RA is the way to go in my opinion, but its your choice of course.
Good luck, and welcome to the world of root my friend, enjoy
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What'sRAn only ever heard of cwm. But I learn quick, been looking at the reaper v3, looks like just what I'm after. Love the phone hate sense. But best spec phone for the contract I wanted.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

jugg1es said:
What'sRAn only ever heard of cwm. But I learn quick, been looking at the reaper v3, looks like just what I'm after. Love the phone hate sense. But best spec phone for the contract I wanted.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
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Its an alternate recovery, may not be out for your phone, sorry. I agree, I hate sense too, completely.... like I said, just research and read directions, and you will more than likely avoid messing up your phone.

Found 4ext recovery. Only had one problem installing a Rom. Got stuck in a bootloop, upset a couple of mods on the development forum for asking in wrong section :thumbdown: finally got it sorted(didn't notice to clear dalvic cache) but, two days= two roms. Really like reaper it's really quick. Now need to master titanium backup and Rom toolbox (both pro) figured now I'd done I'd better invest in something decent.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s (I voided the warranty so it's mine)

Last question. I have read lots of threads explaining how to downgrade the hboot from 2.00. But none really explain the reasons why it should be done, I get that I will be able to flash new Roms direct from the sd card but is this the only reason or are there more technical needs in doing this
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s (I voided the warranty so it's mine)

[GUIDE] Removing the 'This is a Test Device... " Message

I am about to part with my One S after two years and intend to return it to a more-or-less stock ROM before selling it.
After flashing several stock-ish ROMS and booting to system, I found that they all produce the following message in red when running Setup:
This is a test device. Tell HTC is automatically enabled so that HTC can collect critical information about the device during testing. It is not possible to turn this feature off on this phone
This message would be potentially of concern to any new owner of the phone, so I have done a little research to find out what causes it and how to remove it. I am sharing my findings here in case they may be of use to anyone else selling their One S after their 24-month contract finishes.
Cause
The warning is generated by an app called Udove when it counters an S-OFF phone during setup - it assumes that, as the security is missing, the device must be a test device. (It isn't)!
Solution
Return to S-ON or remove the Udove app. (This needs to be removed from the ROM.zip as a factory reset would restore the apk if it is simply deleted).
Removing Udove
1. I started with a Stock, rooted ROM (Ville_Europe_3.16.401.8_OTA_UPDATE_Stock_Rooted_ODEX_FULL.zip) from here
2. Unzip the rom (I used 7-Zip)
3. Navigate to the /system/app/ folder and delete Udove.apk and Udove.odex
4. Rezip the ROM
5. Sign the zip (if required)
6. Flash the new ROM - the 'Tell HTC' page is now gone from setup.

Might be usefull, thanks for that!!!
Just wandering why all the devs don't do it by default when they build their Rom? Is there any risk/issue that can explain nobody's doing it?!

Darvadouille said:
Might be usefull, thanks for that!!!
Just wandering why all the devs don't do it by default when they build their Rom? Is there any risk/issue that can explain nobody's doing it?!
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Probably no one faces the problem because S-OFF and using a non modified stock rom is not a common combination. Also if someone wants to sell the phone as stock, he/she will think about getting the phone S-ON again before selling it.

Darvadouille said:
Might be usefull, thanks for that!!!
Just wandering why all the devs don't do it by default when they build their Rom? Is there any risk/issue that can explain nobody's doing it?!
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Yes, I think the devs ARE doing it by default - I have been using custom ROMs for the last 2 years on this device and have never encountered it before. It was only when I went back to a rooted stock ROM that I came across the issue.
I could go back to completely stock, but that seems a bit pointless after all the work I put in to get the phone to where it is. If a new owner is not interested in rooting/custom recovery/S-OFF etc, they will never know it is there. If they are interested, then the work is already done.

There's also custom hboot to remove the warning.
Sent from my One using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2

rc420head said:
There's also custom hboot to remove the warning.
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This is not the same warning. A custom HBOOT removes the warning on the boot screen.
The warning referred to in the OP occurs during Setup, not on the boot screen.

Hey dude,could you upload your ROM after all the steps to flash it in our S-off machine? Thanks in advance, Merry Christmas