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How I learned to love the bomb..oops, I mean how I finally got CWM working :D

Okay, here goes the story-
1.Got an Inspire
2.Did the Hack Kit and then installed the Rooted Stock ROM (Discontinued), everything went okay but when trying to reboot into CWM, I got the HTC Screen for a few seconds then blackness, I later determined it was working I just couldn't see it for whatever reason.
3.Okay, I thought I'd try Bubby's One Click and see if that would fix it, it went great too, but CWM still no workie, getting frustated now.
4.I thought I'd try flashing a non-AT&T ROM, since so many have been having issue running one and getting the working, but black screened CWM, I chose CoreDroid's.
5.I put CoreDroid's ZIP on my SD Card, went into ROM Manager and installed it, making sure clear memory and backup current ROM were checked.
6.It rebooted into CWM, which of course I couldn't see, then about 10 minutes later it rebooted, and the beautiful CoreDroid Animation came up, and a few minutes after that I had CoreDroid up and running.
7.Well, I thought, CWM should work fine now, EHHHHH Sorry Johnny (which sounded weird, since my name is Mike ), wrong answer, I rebooted into CWM and there it was again, total blackness.
8.Okay, I noticed in CoreDroid that to be able to flash new Radio's, you had to have Eng S-OFF, so I ran the One Click Eng S-Off Tool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403 , making sure to check the box saying I already have S-Off.
9.It ran, and said it was successful, and I now had Eng S-Off, so I rebooted into Hboot to check, and at the top sure enough, it said Eng S-Off, I then hit PowerDown, which it did, but then....well, go to 10
10.It rebooted into...yep, CWM! Clear and beautiful, it looked wonderful! So booted back up, went into ROM Manager and told it to boot into CWM, it did so and it came up again, no problems! I did it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke, nope, all was well now in CWM Land!
So, how's that for a saga? Ahh, now I can kick back, it's Miller Time, or Dr.Pepper Time in my world, I don't drink
Use this at YOUR OWN RISK! I take no responsibility for bricked or ruined phones, I just posted this in hopes it might help out people having CWM issues. DO NOT send me hate mail because this didn't work for you

Good job bro!! I don't personally have the problem, but I've been following tons who have. Well done!

i did step 8 throu 10 and it works great thanks a mill!

No prob, I'm glad I could help you guys out!

congrads!!! i'm gonna try it out, i really wanna try some of these awesome roms available

Thanks Epic, let me know how it goes for you! I can't figure out what it did, other than maybe some files were corrupted or missing, and doing the Eng S-Off pushed and refreshed whatever was corruped or missing, either way I am glad to have it working again

Very nice discovery, I will in cooperate this into the next version of my program. Thanks a ton.

bubby323 said:
Very nice discovery, I will in cooperate this into the next version of my program. Thanks a ton.
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No Prob Bubby, I'm glad I could help and give something back! I am in full support of you by the way, I think it's pretty slimy how they ganged up on you like that, when all you did was try and make things easier for the community. If I can help out in any way, let me know!

californiarailroader said:
No Prob Bubby, I'm glad I could help and give something back! I am in full support of you by the way, I think it's pretty slimy how they ganged up on you like that, when all you did was try and make things easier for the community. If I can help out in any way, let me know!
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Will do.

I believe (if I'm not mistaken) that ENG S-OFF is the Engineering bootloader... it's not the best way to S-Off, because it puts the Engineer's Test HBOOT onto your phone, which causes some problems for other things. Also, to get back to complete stock, you'll now need to flash a stock HBOOT as well, if I remember correctly.
For that very reason, I would *NOT* incorporate this into your one-click, bubby... it worked for me perfectly the way it is, WITHOUT an Engineering HBOOT. I'd leave this as a possible solution for the ones that actually have the problem.

ClearD said:
I believe (if I'm not mistaken) that ENG S-OFF is the Engineering bootloader... it's not the best way to S-Off, because it puts the Engineer's Test HBOOT onto your phone, which causes some problems for other things. Also, to get back to complete stock, you'll now need to flash a stock HBOOT as well, if I remember correctly.
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I haven't had any issues yet, so hopefully I'm good I wouldn't have even ran it except for the fact that to flash other radios, you need to have it on there. I don't mind doing whatever I have to do to go back to Stock, which I don't plan on doing unless I have to send it in for warranty or insurance.
That said, I just posted it so that it might be of help to others, so I guess try it if you are having problems with CWM showing up properly, otherwise leave it alone

californiarailroader said:
I haven't had any issues yet, so hopefully I'm good I wouldn't have even ran it except for the fact that to flash other radios, you need to have it on there. I don't mind doing whatever I have to do to go back to Stock, which I don't plan on doing unless I have to send it in for warranty or insurance.
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No doubt. I hope I never have to, either... I just remember that with an engineer hboot on the desire, it was a LOT harder to get it back to stock, and had several other issues, and that's why they did away with it in favor of non-ENG HBOOT options. I like how it opens up the phone, though. This is indeed a great find that it works with ours!
EDIT: Ahh, I found it. It's in the G2 Wiki here.
"INSTALLING ENGINEERING HBOOT (DZ/G2/DHD) - OPTIONAL and UNNECESSARY!
Assuming you've backed up your phone with Clockwork's nandroid, you can install the engineering HBOOT (bootloader), which among other things allows you to use fastboot flash (or flashing-over-usb from your computer). This is unnecessary for most users but provides additional functionality for developers.
This is totally optional and dangerous - if the write to the phone partition fails the phone will be bricked. At the moment there is no cure for a phone that has been bricked by a failed hboot install."
That very last line is why Bubby should NOT include this in his one click... you think problems are bad now, wait till someone bricks a device and we can't unbrick it! D:

ClearD said:
No doubt. I hope I never have to, either... I just remember that with an engineer hboot on the desire, it was a LOT harder to get it back to stock, and had several other issues, and that's why they did away with it in favor of non-ENG HBOOT options. I like how it opens up the phone, though. This is indeed a great find that it works with ours!
EDIT: Ahh, I found it. It's in the G2 Wiki here.
"INSTALLING ENGINEERING HBOOT (DZ/G2/DHD) - OPTIONAL and UNNECESSARY!
Assuming you've backed up your phone with Clockwork's nandroid, you can install the engineering HBOOT (bootloader), which among other things allows you to use fastboot flash (or flashing-over-usb from your computer). This is unnecessary for most users but provides additional functionality for developers.
This is totally optional and dangerous - if the write to the phone partition fails the phone will be bricked. At the moment there is no cure for a phone that has been bricked by a failed hboot install."
That very last line is why Bubby should NOT include this in his one click... you think problems are bad now, wait till someone bricks a device and we can't unbrick it! D:
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Thanks for posting that. I was just going by what they said to do in the CoreDroid thread, and it worked for me, thankfully
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FAQ:
Again, it's recommended that you flash radio 26.04.02.17_M2 (Orange ES 1.75.75.2 / HTC WWE 1.72.405.3) or radio_26.06.03.24_M2 (TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1) or Radio 26.05.05.27_M3 - (Orange UK 1.84.61.2)
How do I flash a new radio?
In order to flash other radios you need to have ENG S-OFF. Once your device has that read this thread to learn how to flash a radio.img
How to get ENG S-OFF:
Download the attached "easy S-OFF.zip" at the botton of this FAQ.
Extract to a folder of your choice.
Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled. Connect charge only!)
Open my "Desire HD easy s-off.exe", click "S-OFF it"! Allow possible SuperUser request on your phone.
There could be force closes after the process, just reboot and everything will be fine.
Done. (in bootloader it should now show ENG S-OFF)"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207

No doubt, still a great find. It's definitely a temp cwm fix, so use as necessary, just be careful and DO NOT unplug your phone while it's flashing!

ClearD said:
No doubt, still a great find. It's definitely a temp cwm fix, so use as necessary, just be careful and DO NOT unplug your phone while it's flashing!
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For me, it was a permanent CWM fix

Use this at YOUR OWN RISK! I take no responsibility for bricked or ruined phones, I just posted this in hopes it might help out people having CWM issues.
I just put that in my first post, hopefully it will do it's job

I could get into cwm, no black-screen for me though. Still couldnt do radios. Used this and bam new radio....Thanks for the info.

Lol Cali, remind me to "thank" you tomorrow I've been trying all night, but I'm at the 24 hr limit for "thanks". I appreciate the post update, and this really is a great find. I can't stress that enough lol. In the right hands, an engineering HBOOT is great.

btdt13 said:
I could get into cwm, no black-screen for me though. Still couldnt do radios. Used this and bam new radio....Thanks for the info.
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You are very welcome!

ClearD said:
Lol Cali, remind me to "thank" you tomorrow I've been trying all night, but I'm at the 24 hr limit for "thanks". I appreciate the post update, and this really is a great find. I can't stress that enough lol. In the right hands, an engineering HBOOT is great.
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No problemo, as the Terminator would say

[Q] Quasi-Bricked?

Hello! I'm a long-time lurk and this is my first post. Why? Because you folks at XDA are extremely knowledgeable and very helpful! I actually enjoy reading the forums and usually can find my answer using search. Call me a masochist, I guess. I just wish I had the chops to develop and not just be a continuous noobish sponge. I have successfully rooted my own Inspire with Bubby’s method and have flashed several radios and ROMs, no problem (knock on wood).
Anywho, I have searched and have seen similar issues to mine, but I have what I consider a more unique problem (which, if I’m wrong, I’m sure you fine folks will let me know). I attempted to root my brother’s Inspire over the weekend and it is currently showing a black screen with three vibrations and amber light (If I try to go to Hboot manually, I get five whole vibrations with a green light). I can, though, pull the battery for 5 minutes or so, then the phone will boot normally. Although I think it’s on the downgraded ROM, because it shows the funky AT&T splashscreen instead of HTC. What I did was attempt root with Bubby’s and got stuck at the boot screen when the phone was trying to flash the PD98IMG.zip (downgrade I believe) after making the goldcard. It would show that it was trying to read the zip, however I never would get the “volume up to upgrade” option. I tried this three times. When that failed, I tried rooting with the Ace Hack Kit and after creating the goldcard image, when the script tried to reboot the phone to install the downgrade, I got the black screen, amber light with the 3 vibrations. My problem is that I don’t have root, can’t get to recovery from the Hboot screen (shows red exclamation with triangle) and was unable to install Clockworks Mod thru ROM manager because I’m not rooted, so no SuperUser privileges.
What can I do at this point? Maybe off base, but I believe I have somehow corrupted the boot partition or the like, including screwing up Hboot. Is it possible to fix this if I am not able to reboot without pulling the battery? I have tried going thru Bubby’s and the Ace kit again, but always fail when the phone reboots.
Thanks for your help!

I am far from an expert, or even a novice, but to me it sounds like you have a corrupted download for the bubbys one click.... Have you checked the Md5 on the downloaded file?
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I could lie and say yes, but no I didn't check md5 the first go around (although I did the 2nd time I reinstalled, after it screwed up). I did have all antivirus programs uninstalled and firewall turned off.

It does sound like you got the downgrade rom without root. Go back to the hack kit. With the gold card in the phone, turn on usb debugging and connect to the pc in the charge only mode. Run menu number 3 in the hack kit.
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@OP:
Follow the files and instructions in this post to get back to stock so u can start fresh. I followed these to get back to stock only today evening, and it worked.
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TO RETURN TO STOCK:
Make sure you S-ON (if able) BEFORE you Unroot. The S-On tool needs root permissions to function.
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Turn the phone on, connect to computer, and perform step 1. Make sure USB debugging is enabled.
Step 1 (S-On):
Run Bubby323's S-On tool: S-On Tool
Step 2 (STOCK ROM in ZIP FORMAT):
Place this .zip file on the root of your SD card. Disable fast boot in settings > applications. Turn off your phone. Hold down the volume down button and the power button at the same time. The phone will reboot into hboot. It will load the ROM automatically. Follow the steps to flash the ROM.
http://www.multiupload.com/JELMZNSKDF
I did this like a couple hours back, and mine's back to stock.
Note: I consolidated the links here from various posts on this forum.

Diablo: Was posting the reply below, when I saw your message. Would you still recommend I follow your steps to unroot, return to stock and run hack again?
Update: Well, I went thru Bubby’s root process again and was able to get the phone rooted (had to pull battery and wait 4 minutes when it needed to reboot). And I have confirmed root was successful. I also used Bubby’s fix to Eng S-Off (couldn’t hurt, right?). The phone now has the latest Android Revolution with Sense and the radio has been flashed (including full wipe and EXT4 wipe). However, it STILL won’t reboot correctly. I can boot directly into Clockwork from ROM Manager, but if I try to reboot normally (hold down power button and select restart), I get the black screen, amber light and 3 vibrations. Again, pull battery and wait 4 minutes and either power button to boot normally or power and volume down to get to Hboot works fine and goes to Clockwork from Hboot fine also. I guess I can keep up with the batter pull only when I have to manually restart, but WTH? There has got to be a fix for the reboot issue. Any ideas?

fernandezhjr said:
It does sound like you got the downgrade rom without root. Go back to the hack kit. With the gold card in the phone, turn on usb debugging and connect to the pc in the charge only mode. Run menu number 3 in the hack kit.
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Thanks, but tried that earlier on and couldn't continue on with steps in hack kit.

ogarlen said:
...I also used Bubby's fix to Eng S-Off (couldn't hurt, right?)...
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Well, actually, wrong, it could hurt. I'm not saying that's the cause of your problems, but you really should've read up a little more before clicking on stuff so nonchalantly.
Eng s-Off means the engineering bootloader. If that process were to fail while in the midst of performing it on your phone, it would most likely hard-brick it.
Not to mention it's unnecessary. It was only included in that rooting method at the time for flashing radios, I believe, and since then a safer method for doing so has come into standard usage that doesn't require eng s-Off.
It's also one method of resolving the cwr blackscreen people were having, where you're actually in cwr, but the screen is black so you can't see what your doing. Not the same black screen your seeing, I don't think, because you're able to at least get into cwr.

ogarlen said:
Thanks, but tried that earlier on and couldn't continue on with steps in hack kit.
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The vibrations with the blinking led, I have seen a few posts with this. Sadly, I haven't seen anyone post a fix yet.
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Fernandezhjir: I understand your sentiment, however my situation does seem to be a little different than the other posts, so there may be hope yet.
Scott: You're absolutely right (as if you need me to confirm that) that it could hurt. My sarcasm didn't come over very well without a wink-smiley or the like. As I mentioned before, I have read the forums and the other posts on the difference between radio s-off and eng s-off and how dangerous it can be. Actually Bubby's program fairly adequately describes that taking that step can possibly brick your phone and when you should consider taking the risk. I was desperate and dumb and poking fun at myself in my post.
Any advice with my current situation? Everything on the phone is working fine unless I try to normal restart, then I get the amber light with 3 vibrations. Again, battery pull for 4+ minutes then resinsert and power works and I can get to Hboot and Clockwork okay.

ogarlen said:
Fernandezhjir: I understand your sentiment, however my situation does seem to be a little different than the other posts, so there may be hope yet.
Scott: You're absolutely right (as if you need me to confirm that) that it could hurt. My sarcasm didn't come over very well without a wink-smiley or the like. As I mentioned before, I have read the forums and the other posts on the difference between radio s-off and eng s-off and how dangerous it can be. Actually Bubby's program fairly adequately describes that taking that step can possibly brick your phone and when you should consider taking the risk. I was desperate and dumb and poking fun at myself in my post.
Any advice with my current situation? Everything on the phone is working fine unless I try to normal restart, then I get the amber light with 3 vibrations. Again, battery pull for 4+ minutes then resinsert and power works and I can get to Hboot and Clockwork okay.
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Heh. Now that you explain it, I can see the sarcasm. I'm usually good a picking up on it, but you know how these internet textual posts go....smilies are crucial...
As to your problem, there seem to be a few posts in recent days describing the led/vibrations type of symptom.
I don't know if they're interrelated or not. I don't have an answer, but I'm curious and will drop in if I manage to come across any pertinent information.

Thanks for the replies! I will continue to research and update this thread if I find a solution. I really believe that it has something to do with the startup processes or boot cache or some other $10 phrase related to what happens when the phone is attempting to startup normally. I appreciate all help.
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Just wanted to add a quick update for anyone searching that comes across this post: The phone in question is now working flawlessly (knock on wood). Restarting, power down and battery pulls work with no problems (no vibrations or flashes). I am honestly unsure what I did to cause this error or what the resolution was and can only speculate. Since my last post, I have made a Nandroid backup and flashed a couple ROMs (namely AR with Sense, then Virtuous Unity with full wipes in between), so I assume that somewhere in there the corrupted boot files (or whatever) were corrected. All's well that ends well...

Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.

Wolf_2 said:
Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.
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Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.

seems like you got yourself a good taste of rom flashing issues. that's a good thing. i know that you have everything working flawlessly now, BUT i would still HIGHLY recommend that you download the Super Wipe script from the Android revolution thread and use that to completely wipe and format your partitions, then do a FULL wipe through clockwork and then install whatever ROM you would like. but i cant stress enough, MAKE SURE that the Md5 sums match always. this can be the difference between a working rom and a bricked phone. also i would like to add that through my experience i usually find that the first time you root the inspire, the very first rom you install on it almost always has issues. that's how it is for me atleast. Ive rooted plenty of Inspire's and all of them have had some sort of issue on the first flash. and as always, follow the directions per rom to the T or else it might not work.
P.S. Some roms run better with matching Radio and RIL. flashing these is AWLAYS good practice to get your phone to tunr the best possible.

Wolf_2 said:
Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.
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Gene Poole said:
Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.
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Thats why I posted the full steps in the guide , to s-on and ruu back to stock. On a side note bubbies s-on tool does not always work.
On another side note, Genepoole would be interested in wrighting a script for the s-on/return t stock process to make it a little more automated? The steps right now are flashing back to stock then re rooting, then entering gfree s-off on then re running the ruu.

mudknot2005 said:
On another side note, Genepoole would be interested in wrighting a script for the s-on/return t stock process to make it a little more automated? The steps right now are flashing back to stock then re rooting, then entering gfree s-off on then re running the ruu.
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I have actually considered this. The current methods require a complete downgrade just like rooting when all you really need for gfree to work is the radio and kernel from the downgrade ROM.

Gene Poole said:
Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.
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You are correct. I should have re phrased that differently. I know that S-Off would survive the RUU procedure so I should have said "almost out of the box". The RUU is still a very handy thing to have.

Gene Poole said:
I have actually considered this. The current methods require a complete downgrade just like rooting when all you really need for gfree to work is the radio and kernel from the downgrade ROM.
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Please, sir.
Seriously, this would be, imo, a profound contribution to this phone.

[Q] Flashing Generic Firmware with S-off

Hi Guys,
Apologies if this has been discussed before. I have looked for answers everywhere and i could not find any.
Ok, I have a Desire S which is branded to Telstra (Australia), I was sick of all the useless app that Telstra had put in and wanted to get rid of all those.
I used revolutionary method to get it s-off and install Generic Firmware. After that i was happy not having any of Telstra's bloatware on the phone. Then came the update of 2.3.5 and as usual downloaded the firmware and used RRU to Update. Big mistake on my part, i didn't read anything and just tried to push RRU on the phone, the result was White screen with HTC logo and nothing past that. Tried everything no luck, then looking for answers, i found a solution to remove revolutionary, I could see revolutionary gone in HBOOT but the phone would not start.
to solve this i went to telstra to send it to repair, warranty was there and when telstra asked what happened, i said i was updating an app and it went to this screen, Tech guys said this is the similar 3rd problem in a day. so after 5 days the phone got repaired, New IMEI number and logic board had to be replaced.
Now all over again i have bunch of telstra bloatware on the phone. I want to get Generic 2.3.5 with sense 3.0. what is the process to follow so that i don't make the same mistake again?
All i want to do is get it s-off and install generic Firmware, the easiest way possible something like revolutionary. I tried going with ADB but found a bit risky.
Any advice in getting Generic HTC Desire S (2.3.5 with Sense 3.0) the easiest way would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
HBOOT info:
SAGA PVT SHIP s-ON RL
HBOOT-0.98.0002
RADIO-3805.04.02.01_M
eMMC-boot
Mar 30 2011,17:29:31
Thanks

To get a generic firmware from some other area, you need to get Super CID. I don't know much about it, just that CID's like a region code, Super CID enables you to get generic ROMs from any region. Only XTC Clip can do that on a Desire S as far as i know. Flashing a custom ROM after Revolutionary S-OFF is a better option....
Listen, I really recommend you to use a Custom ROM based on the update if you are ready to S-OFF. Hyperion is much faster and has a lot more features. Hell, if you do S-OFF, why settle for Sense 3? Get Sense 3.5. I recommend endymion.

@shrome99: Thanks dude, correct me if i am wrong, to get a generic firmware onto the desire s there is no option but to go for s-off and customs roms are better than stock ones, the reason i am asking is i have not used custom roms and willing to stick to stock.
What is the easiest way to get the rom sorted, I know how to get the custom rom installed there are too many posts everywhere that you can read through and make a decision and find roms of your choice, but there seems to be nothing about stock roms, i am sure there are people who are willing to get stock rom and their carrier is not rolling out the update coz they want more junk to be added.
Steps on how to get generic stock rom would be really helpful.
Thanks again

zryvffn said:
@shrome99: Thanks dude, correct me if i am wrong, to get a generic firmware onto the desire s there is no option but to go for s-off and customs roms are better than stock ones, the reason i am asking is i have not used custom roms and willing to stick to stock.
What is the easiest way to get the rom sorted, I know how to get the custom rom installed there are too many posts everywhere that you can read through and make a decision and find roms of your choice, but there seems to be nothing about stock roms, i am sure there are people who are willing to get stock rom and their carrier is not rolling out the update coz they want more junk to be added.
Steps on how to get generic stock rom would be really helpful.
Thanks again
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+1 to above
IMO, if you're considering making a change then put on a decent custom (see my sig) you won't regret it

ben_pyett said:
+1 to above
IMO, if you're considering making a change then put on a decent custom (see my sig) you won't regret it
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Hey Ben, Thanks for this, I went ahead and got the ROM as you suggested. Installed the base verison, then the add-on and the update. I have been palying around with it and so far loving it.
Only problem tough, I cannot use Market. I can open market look for apps and download, but when it starts to install, the phone re-boots. any known issues with this and is there a workaround to sort this out.

Ok, so here is what i did, Flashed Base version again and market started working again with no issues. Another issue which is not so much of an issue but only at night, why does the soft keys don't lit up on Desire S?. any way to fix these. Thanks guys.

Sometimes firing up and signing into Google talk makes the market start working again
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sadsac said:
Sometimes firing up and signing into Google talk makes the market start working again
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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Thanks for that, I did a search for the issue and did the same thing as you had advised, but didn't work. Then I flashed the base version again and then the update, which worked. Don't know what had happened there.
But yeah loving the new rom and i would say was a better move to be on a custom ROM and getting rid of Carrier's junk installed.
Cheers!

Ok, so instead of creating a new post i have decided to post it here since it is already been discussed.
I was happy with rooted phone and endymion Rom and was happy until my phone started heating up and restarted on its own as if it had a mind of its own, I called HTC and they advised to send it for repair, i had to unroot the phone and sent for repair. Got the phone back with updated version and i need help rooting the phone.
when i boot the phone in fast boot this is what i get:
****LOCKED****
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-BOOT
Aug 22 2011, 15:22:13
Android Version 2.3.5
HTC Sense Verison 3.0
Software Number: 2.14.841.4
Baseband Version: 2.14.841.4 CL 184593 Release-Keys
Now i need to Root the phone again so i can be another happy user of endymion.
I am looking at this guide and needed help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636&page=1
The oldest RUU i can find for my provider is RUU_Saga_Telstra_WWE_1.36.841.3_Radio_20.28d.30.0805U_3805.04.02.01_M_release_184558_signed.exe
I was reading the guide and this is where i am confused.
6.This command will gets you out of adb shell.. so we need to get back to adb shell and you will see "#" sign..meaning you are temp rooted and we can then proceed to changing MISC_VERSION:
Code:
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp
./misc_version -s 1.27.405.6 .
./misc_version -s 1.27.405.6 do i change this to 1.36.841.3 or leave it as it is?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

IMO you can leave it as it is. 1.27.xxx is older than your RUU version so I think it will work fine.

chninkel said:
IMO you can leave it as it is. 1.27.xxx is older than your RUU version so I think it will work fine.
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Thanks for that, yes i did follow the guide, and then got stuck again. The problem i am facing is after pushing all the files as of the guide, i run tacoroot the phone restarts and all i get is a red triangle with exclamation mark in it and nothing else happens.
then to get rid of it, i pull out the battery and do a complete factory reset. I have done this about 5 times now but still the same.
Also tried using super one click but that dint work either and freezes on waiting for device.
anything i have missed or is there any other solutions, any GUI programs or video to help if i am missing something.
any help is appreciated.
Thanks

I believe that you have to boot the original recovery before using tacoroot to get it working ( I mean boot it once, then boot normally).
After using tacoroot --root, your phone will probably go in bootloop, don't worry about that and change your misc_version as described in the tutorial.
And please, stop pulling out the battery, you will brick your phone this way.

chninkel said:
And please, stop pulling out the battery, you will brick your phone this way.
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+1
You can pull it out as often as you want..but at least you should know the risk.
Sent by my fingers to your head

chninkel said:
I believe that you have to boot the original recovery before using tacoroot to get it working ( I mean boot it once, then boot normally).
After using tacoroot --root, your phone will probably go in bootloop, don't worry about that and change your misc_version as described in the tutorial.
And please, stop pulling out the battery, you will brick your phone this way.
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I don't understand,"boot into original recovery". To try i booted the phone in HBOOT and pressed recovery and same thing the triangle shows. am i missing something here.
EDIT: I went till the last step and this is what i get "Patching and backing up partition 17...
Error Opening backup file.
#"
any idea

zryvffn said:
To try i booted the phone in HBOOT and pressed recovery
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That's what I meant.
You can try misc_version_universal to avoid error patching partition 17 (see attachment below).

chninkel said:
That's what I meant.
You can try misc_version_universal to avoid error patching partition 17 (see attachment below).
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Thanks dude, this worked and going thru revolutionary. i did some changes in the steps and will update what i did in a while after i get a rom installed.

Thank you everyone for help and support. i was able to downgrade my HBOOT and install a custom ROM. It would not have been possible if you guys had not supported.
one thing i have learnt is the more you read the more you find things useful and you actually learn how ti weigh your risk and benefits and avoid ending up with an expensive paper weight.
so this is what i did.
after using universal misc version file i was getting 140 error in RUU, boot loader version error, tried 3 time but would not let me get past that, then out of frustration i thought about giving it a last try for good or for worse, in the misc version section i changed a bit.
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp
./misc_version -s 1.36.841.3 (Same number as my RUU)
then RUU went fine and then revolutionary.
well, if any kind of newbie person in trying to root the phone i would suggest to read and if you think you have read enough, its probably you haven't.
special thanks to @chninkel, @eyahl. Thanks Guys for all the support.
Cheers!

Noob Question About S-On, S-Off, and HTC's unlock

I used HTC's official unlock and my phone is unlocked, but has S-On. Is there a benefit to S-Off now that mine is unlocked? What is the difference between how the unlocks are? Sorry if i'm not making much sense, I'm new to this place and Android in general... I just got my sensation last week.

Welcome to Sensation
Don't worry, everyone's a noob at some point, I'm pretty much still a noob myself but as far as I understand it:
To this point you have unlocked your bootloader which simply allows the phone to boot with third-party software installed. In your phone there is a form of security check and the level of security is determined by whether you are S-ON or S-OFF. It's a flag at the radio level of your phone that checks images before they are allowed to be written to the system memory. So when you gain S-OFF, you gain unrestricted access to the NAND flash memory on your device, also known as root. With S-ON you can get temporary root but it's not guaranteed, with S-OFF you can get permanent root no matter what you flash.
Essentially gaining S-OFF permits superuser access to the phone, giving you control over all aspects of software and hardware.
If you like your phone the way it comes to you, all filled up with bloatware and stuck using only the latest version of Android that your carrier releases OTA, with a boring/crappy splash screen and boot animation (and so on and so forth ) then you have no real reason to get S-OFF.
If however you have seen some of the shiny ROMs put together by the devs here at XDA, or have a sweet custom splash screen you'd love to see every time you boot up the phone, or just like the idea of having complete control over YOUR phone and flashing what-the-hell-ever ROM/firmware/radio/other stuff you damn well please, then you should definitely consider rooting.
The disclaimer to all this is that if you aren't careful and don't thoroughly research what you're doing BEFORE you do it, you could brick your phone and give yourself some serious grief. The fact you're even asking this now is a point in your favour, there are far too many 'help me' posts on here from people who did something without bothering to try and understand it first. Knowledge is power and there's buckets of knowledge on this forum and others.
I'd suggest reading here and here at the very least.
Hope that helps

s-off means you may do anything with your phone,
you will lose warrenty at s-off gain it at s-on
as the other guy said if u want a nice toutch to your rom s-off it and install, if u want it still legal dont

Thanks for the info. I've been considering using an ICS OTA file on my HTC Sensation 4G, but the guides i've seen only mention S-OFF and nothing about the unlocked S-ON. I just can't wait for the official release!
On the other hand though, I also want to remove bloatware from this phone and found a script for such... but i can't seem to get any temp root method working. I'm not ready to jump off the deep end yet, but i'm tired of the unnecessary stuff.

I also couldn't wait for the official ICS release so I s-off, rooted, super CID, and flashed an ICS firmware and went to android revolution. Honestly, it's one of the best decisions Ive ever made. If you think your stock phone is running good right now, you'll be amazed when you flash it, it will run absolutely faster I tell you.
Though there are alot of risks doing all of that, it might brick your phone completely. So be very careful, read and understand everything if you're going to do all of those stuff.
Sent from revolutionized HTC Sensation ICS

HTC sensation stuck at boot
Hey Guys Noob here,
I need help big time. I gone and mess with something I shouldn't have. I'm a first time android/touch screen user so bear with me.
I was trying to S-off my phone (alrady rooted- after several tries) but I downloaded the juopunutbear zip file on my phone. I mistakenly loaded it via the CWM recovery and now the screen is stuck on that juopunutbear image.
I have tried to flash my rom because I thought it was just a boot loop, but nothing happened. I NEED some advice please don't tell me I bricked it. :crying:

man+droid said:
Hey Guys Noob here,
I need help big time. I gone and mess with something I shouldn't have. I'm a first time android/touch screen user so bear with me.
I was trying to S-off my phone (alrady rooted- after several tries) but I downloaded the juopunutbear zip file on my phone. I mistakenly loaded it via the CWM recovery and now the screen is stuck on that juopunutbear image.
I have tried to flash my rom because I thought it was just a boot loop, but nothing happened. I NEED some advice please don't tell me I bricked it. :crying:
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if you can boot into bootloader then you are not bricked
secondly what do you mean by juopunutbear.zip and from where?
edit:you said that you are already rooted
which means that you have unlocked bootloader from htcdev site am i right?

Yes it was already unlock from HTC dev, but I was trying to get S- off using the wire trick method. In reading the Jounutbear guide thread it directed u to a link which has the zip file which I should have run on my pc but I had mistakenly installed it from my sd card and now it isn't going furthuer than that screen. I now can't using the Jbear exe bcuz it not recogining it.
I don't really want to keep adding my nonsense to the thread how can I PM someone for help.

man+droid said:
Yes it was already unlock from HTC dev, but I was trying to get S- off using the wire trick method. In reading the Jounutbear guide thread it directed u to a link which has the zip file which I should have run on my pc but I had mistakenly installed it from my sd card and now it isn't going furthuer than that screen. I now can't using the Jbear exe bcuz it not recogining it.
I don't really want to keep adding my nonsense to the thread how can I PM someone for help.
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do this
install 4ext recovery
enable smartflash from it
flash the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861

I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.

man+droid said:
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
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that's weird
did you perform a full wipe(from recovery) before flashing the rom?
also as long as you are on S-ON use 4ext recovery to flash the rom
and before flashing the rom enable smartflash from 4ext
if you have done all the above then use a ruu.exe to return to stock condition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425

Well that thread seems to be a mouth full remember I'm a noob. But I will try and read that again to get what it really says. It seems though that it was a complex instruction how to get back to the stock rom? Isn't there a file for that I can download. I get to doing that RUU thing to see if it works tho

man+droid said:
Well that thread seems to be a mouth full remember I'm a noob. But I will try and read that again to get what it really says. It seems though that it was a complex instruction how to get back to the stock rom? Isn't there a file for that I can download. I get to doing that RUU thing to see if it works tho
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i saw your post in the other thread
you managed to install 4ext
now try to flash a custom rom
before flashing the rom enable smartflash from 4ext

Hey guys good news
I finally got the phone to power on. I saw this thread that highlead my pro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284273 but I was really got the details from another forum. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it so I won't, but I'll sum it up.
All I need to do was flash the boot image on my current rom (get this from the zip file) and also flash the recovery image from a backup I had and presto.
But I'll go and follow you guys instruction about enabling the 4ext smart flash from now on. What I want to know though is for some custom roms (eg cyanogenmod 10.1) do I needs to be S-off to install it?
If so I'm still gonna try and S-off this here thingy. Givethanks y'all

man+droid said:
Hey guys good news
I finally got the phone to power on. I saw this thread that highlead my pro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284273 but I was really got the details from another forum. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it so I won't, but I'll sum it up.
All I need to do was flash the boot image on my current rom (get this from the zip file) and also flash the recovery image from a backup I had and presto.
But I'll go and follow you guys instruction about enabling the 4ext smart flash from now on. What I want to know though is for some custom roms (eg cyanogenmod 10.1) do I needs to be S-off to install it?
If so I'm still gonna try and S-off this here thingy. Givethanks y'all
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any ICS/JB rom you can install via enabling smartflash in 4EXT before flashing the ROM

ganeshp said:
any ICS/JB rom you can install via enabling smartflash in 4EXT before flashing the ROM
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Hey thanx for the heads up. So I'm finally s-off using the J-bear method but where unlocked use to be I'm now seeing the juopunutbear there so I got back into android but it was the old CWM that was on it how do I get back the 4ext and would that be a prob if that J name remains there tho?

man+droid said:
Hey thanx for the heads up. So I'm finally s-off using the J-bear method but where unlocked use to be I'm now seeing the juopunutbear there so I got back into android but it was the old CWM that was on it how do I get back the 4ext and would that be a prob if that J name remains there tho?
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no you are fine now
there is no problem with juopunutbear because now you have patched hboot which is unlocked
you are fine also with cwm recovery
but if you still want 4ext do only step 2 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861

man+droid said:
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
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might be a bad dl. Download it again and reflash or try a different rom.

I've gone and made a paper weight

Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?

1st of all WRONG FORUM!!!!!! This is for Development, not questions. That's what general is for. Second, there's a couple threads in General about this. Just hit search.
Magical Mods, may we please have this moved. Thanks.
Sent from my MIUI V4

take out your sdcard and use an adapter to put a stock PG59IMG.zip on your sdcard (make sure its named PG59IMG.zip) and go back into the bootloader. It will confirm if you want to install the zip and in 10 mins you'll be back on stock. Oh and ^ plus one please next time post in general as this has nothing to do with developing.

wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."

blackknightavalon said:
Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."
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Yes, the correct terminology is 'Take a chill pill, Bill.
Can't get chill without the Bill.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Sorry I wasn't "helpful". I'll do better to assist you next time....or just ignore it

I can't help you and I expect you to get a satisfactory answer.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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XMC, a Dev. He helped you, we where all noobs once. You should check out the "Welcome to XDA Video". Just follow the Rules. That's all, follow the rules.
Sent from my MIUI V4

To supplement what Agent said the appropriate section for this would be the General section.
Additionally the development area is where devs post new roms, tools and hacks. Users can add observations to these threads to further development.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

fsured said:
Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?
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"tried a few different things" to get S-Off?
There are two ways of getting S-off. One is done with Revolution if your HBOOT is earlier than 1.45. The other is juopunutbear if your HBOOT is 1.45. Did you check your HBOOT version before "trying a few things"?
Did you read the instructions for the all-in-one toolkit? Or possibly just follow the steps in order in the program? It's specifically designed so you don't need s-off.
I'm assuming you must have flashed CWM recovery since you said you did a factory reset. Did you do Juopunutbear or revolution, or are you planning on leaving S-ON? If S-ON, Did you flash a kernel(boot.img) using the toolkit? If you can get into HBOOT and get into recovery, there's no reason you should need to revert to stock. However, if your plan is to continue doing steps before reading the instructions, you should probably revert to stock anyway before you really do brick your device.
This link will provide you everything you need to get your device running. Just follow the spteps from the beginning. If your bootloader is already unlocked from HTCDev, then start at the step directly after unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809

The toolkit worked well for me (even though it was my first attempt at anything), so I guess I'd echo that. It also matched with the step-by-step guides on stuff I found elsewhere in the forum. BUT there is a real difference in the method and order of things for the two hboots, hence KarriOn's questions.
However, having rooted and S-Offed, I then got a bit cocky and managed to end up in a not dissimilar position to you! Total panic, but I managed to get out by thinking through what I'd done, researching, and the cause and hence solution became clear. Took a night sleeping on it, and 2 hours.
what HBOOT?
Did you unlock the boot loader?
Did you get recovery on
Did you do a backup before going any further?
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.

fsured said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.
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You don't need S-Off for ROMs to work. It sounds like you didn't flash a kernel after installing a ROM. The instructions on doing this are listed in the all-in one tool thread, the "flash ics roms with s-on" thread, and even on the all-in one tool interface itself.

fsured said:
I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!
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Flashing SuperUser won't get you to S-Off. Hasoon2000 has two different toolkits. One that will guide you through the rooting process and the other on how to gain S-Off using the Juopunutbear method. Having S-Off isn't necessary to root but it will take a few extra steps to flash a different ROM with S-ON. I was too much of a chicken to try the S-Off method since there is some risk involved but several have reported that it worked successfully for them.