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New to sensation and need some help from experts ;)

Hi all. I am new to android and need some help. i both sensation before few days and i am trying to learn as much as i can for the time i have i was iphone user for long time and know everything about it but now want to try to learn things about android. i wanted to add some custom rom to my sensation but i just found out that i have hboot 1.27.0000 and S-ON. i have android 4.0.3 installed on my phone.
i was reading lot about how to take S-OFF and to root mu phone but i cant get all
as far i found out i cant do S-off because revolutionary don't support 1.27 boot. am i right about this?
also i read that i can do some htcdev S-off but that i will lose warranty. is this right?
today i found some other method with some wire but i don't know is that really good way to do this..
i need this so i can add custom rom like ARHD or something like that. is there way to do this on my phone or i need to wait for new version of revolutionary?
thx for all your help i rly want to learn as much i can without opening new threads but there is so much things about andorid and i am just noob for it
if you have time and patient to help me i would really appreciate it.

As of now you can't soff yet there working on it one came out today but don't know much on it you can put only a few Roma on as of right now you have to wait
Sent from my Sensation 4G using xda premium

lazar89nis said:
Hi all. I am new to android and need some help. i both sensation before few days and i am trying to learn as much as i can for the time i have i was iphone user for long time and know everything about it but now want to try to learn things about android. i wanted to add some custom rom to my sensation but i just found out that i have hboot 1.27.0000 and S-ON. i have android 4.0.3 installed on my phone.
i was reading lot about how to take S-OFF and to root mu phone but i cant get all
as far i found out i cant do S-off because revolutionary don't support 1.27 boot. am i right about this?
also i read that i can do some htcdev S-off but that i will lose warranty. is this right?
today i found some other method with some wire but i don't know is that really good way to do this..
i need this so i can add custom rom like ARHD or something like that. is there way to do this on my phone or i need to wait for new version of revolutionary?
thx for all your help i rly want to learn as much i can without opening new threads but there is so much things about andorid and i am just noob for it
if you have time and patient to help me i would really appreciate it.
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Hmm you got 1.27 HBOOT and S-OFF...
so yeah you can't soff now...the other thread you've seen might be "unbricking sensation thread" that's not advisable to do until you know what you are doing.
So there is still one way for you to install custom ...i.e. HTC dev unlocked bootloader..this will give you an unlocked bootloader which is enough to get a custom Rom running on your device...but remember using HTC dev unlocked bootloader may void your warranty..and there's no way you can argue with them if in some case you require warranty as they will have phone details logged once you do unlock from HTC dev....so try it at your own risk. Also HTC dev unlock doesn't give "S-OFF" but only unlocks bootloader but still you can flash custom roms if you got this so called unlocked bootloader.
Once you got the unlocked bootloader...you can flash a recovery..preferrebly 4EXT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
Get the recovery updater apk on your sd card ...and install the apk....and then open it up and flash the latest 4EXT recovery which has smart flash on.
Remember to say "yes" when you are asked whether you are S-ON as this will enable smart flash mode.
Once you got recovery installed you can download the Rom (I guess it is ARHD as you've mentioned it) and flash it through recovery..remember to do a nandroid backup before you flash this new Rom...just to be safe in case something screwed up happens
sent from my blazing fast pyramid through sonic waves

thx m8 for explaining me all this
i have 18 mounts warranty so i dont want to lose that. i will wait for revolutionary to add support for this hboot 1.27.0000...

can i use
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24370319#post24370319
and then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981&page=18
to unlock root and S-off my sensation with hboot 1.27?

lazar89nis said:
can i use
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24370319#post24370319
and then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981&page=18
to unlock root and S-off my sensation with hboot 1.27?
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Yeah try the first link to get unloacked bootloader...afaik no one tried this on sensation...but try this as he is saying it won't brick your device...he said it is a hit or miss so try it
And please let me know if you are successful in getting unlocked

I've gone and made a paper weight

Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?

1st of all WRONG FORUM!!!!!! This is for Development, not questions. That's what general is for. Second, there's a couple threads in General about this. Just hit search.
Magical Mods, may we please have this moved. Thanks.
Sent from my MIUI V4

take out your sdcard and use an adapter to put a stock PG59IMG.zip on your sdcard (make sure its named PG59IMG.zip) and go back into the bootloader. It will confirm if you want to install the zip and in 10 mins you'll be back on stock. Oh and ^ plus one please next time post in general as this has nothing to do with developing.

wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."

blackknightavalon said:
Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."
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Yes, the correct terminology is 'Take a chill pill, Bill.
Can't get chill without the Bill.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Sorry I wasn't "helpful". I'll do better to assist you next time....or just ignore it

I can't help you and I expect you to get a satisfactory answer.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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XMC, a Dev. He helped you, we where all noobs once. You should check out the "Welcome to XDA Video". Just follow the Rules. That's all, follow the rules.
Sent from my MIUI V4

To supplement what Agent said the appropriate section for this would be the General section.
Additionally the development area is where devs post new roms, tools and hacks. Users can add observations to these threads to further development.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

fsured said:
Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?
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"tried a few different things" to get S-Off?
There are two ways of getting S-off. One is done with Revolution if your HBOOT is earlier than 1.45. The other is juopunutbear if your HBOOT is 1.45. Did you check your HBOOT version before "trying a few things"?
Did you read the instructions for the all-in-one toolkit? Or possibly just follow the steps in order in the program? It's specifically designed so you don't need s-off.
I'm assuming you must have flashed CWM recovery since you said you did a factory reset. Did you do Juopunutbear or revolution, or are you planning on leaving S-ON? If S-ON, Did you flash a kernel(boot.img) using the toolkit? If you can get into HBOOT and get into recovery, there's no reason you should need to revert to stock. However, if your plan is to continue doing steps before reading the instructions, you should probably revert to stock anyway before you really do brick your device.
This link will provide you everything you need to get your device running. Just follow the spteps from the beginning. If your bootloader is already unlocked from HTCDev, then start at the step directly after unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809

The toolkit worked well for me (even though it was my first attempt at anything), so I guess I'd echo that. It also matched with the step-by-step guides on stuff I found elsewhere in the forum. BUT there is a real difference in the method and order of things for the two hboots, hence KarriOn's questions.
However, having rooted and S-Offed, I then got a bit cocky and managed to end up in a not dissimilar position to you! Total panic, but I managed to get out by thinking through what I'd done, researching, and the cause and hence solution became clear. Took a night sleeping on it, and 2 hours.
what HBOOT?
Did you unlock the boot loader?
Did you get recovery on
Did you do a backup before going any further?
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.

fsured said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.
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You don't need S-Off for ROMs to work. It sounds like you didn't flash a kernel after installing a ROM. The instructions on doing this are listed in the all-in one tool thread, the "flash ics roms with s-on" thread, and even on the all-in one tool interface itself.

fsured said:
I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!
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Flashing SuperUser won't get you to S-Off. Hasoon2000 has two different toolkits. One that will guide you through the rooting process and the other on how to gain S-Off using the Juopunutbear method. Having S-Off isn't necessary to root but it will take a few extra steps to flash a different ROM with S-ON. I was too much of a chicken to try the S-Off method since there is some risk involved but several have reported that it worked successfully for them.

[Q] HTC sensation Orange UK S-off and Root

Hi XDA
I have posted a new thread after reading various guides and threads to S-off the sensation.
My problem is that i dont understand some parts in some guides so i cant use that guide.
1 st problem
Unlock bootloader : I have a Htc sensation Orange UK but it isnt listed on the HTC dev website so what do i do ?
2nd problem : I would prefer not to unlock my bootloader via HTC dev because i dont want to void my warranty.
3rd problem : I am running windows 7 32 bit and control bear support has been stopped for it .
4th problem : I dont have any wires to use for control bear so i want to use a paper clip but i dont know if this is correct so can someone verify please ? : (Image attached to this post)
5th problem : I dont know if the method i am understanding for S - off is correct
What i think i need to do ,
Htc dev :
Unlock using htc dev
root using temp toot .bat
run control bear
do wire trick
install h boot
Install recovery
Ganeshp ver
Run temp root
run control bear
do wire trick
install H boot.
Install recovery
6th problem :
I believe you can flash roms with only unlocked bootloader but there is only 1 guide for it and its not very clear.
7th problem : Im afraid about bricking my device
Thanks for helping guys !

Hi, all the questions you have can pretty much be answered with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26280760
S-off by ganesh's guide does not require an unlocked bootloader.
Concerning the wire trick... I used one piece of paperclip so I can verify that it works (I never insulated the paperclip with anything either, so it was just a naked paperclip)
By the way, you never mentioned your bootloader details, but if you have 1.2x bootloader you can use the guide that ganesh wrote about, but if you have an hboot that is a lower version, then you have to use revolutionary's s-off guide.
You can flash ROMs and a custom recovery both s-on and s-off, but if you don't want to unlock your bootloader like you said, then I would try to s-off your device.
Since you are running windows, you probably need the windows version of controlbear.exe. pm me and ask about it, otherwise, ask someone else who has the file.
Good luck! And I hope I answered the questions
I wouldn't worry that much about bricking your device. Just flash the right ROMs and you'll be fine. If you follow all the instructions step by step, then there's nothing that can go wrong.
After you finish tinkering with your phone, I would flash albino's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37121632
It's silky smooth, has basically no major bugs, and I think the battery is better compared to other ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Sensation

Be careful and do more research on unlocking the bootloader via HTC Dev.
It is not the complete unlocking sollution that HTC leads you to believe it is. It unlocks the bootloader in a very limited fashion, and prevents some full s-off methods from working at all without starting completely over and flashing an RUU (which wipes everything and restores the phone to the way it left the factory)
Meanwhile if you run into warrenty issues later, having used the HTC Dev website tells HTC that you messed with the phone and they could actually deny warrenty service based on that. But if you use other means to unlcoked the bootloader HTC wouldn't know anything about it, so if you flashed an RUU later to return it to bone stock it would be an S-On phone with a locked bootloader again. Warrenty shouldn't be affected.
Also keep in mind that you've got a 2 year old device. The warrenty probably isn't going to last much longer on it anway.

Heloooo said:
Hi XDA
I have posted a new thread after reading various guides and threads to S-off the sensation.
My problem is that i dont understand some parts in some guides so i cant use that guide.
1 st problem
Unlock bootloader : I have a Htc sensation Orange UK but it isnt listed on the HTC dev website so what do i do ?
2nd problem : I would prefer not to unlock my bootloader via HTC dev because i dont want to void my warranty.
3rd problem : I am running windows 7 32 bit and control bear support has been stopped for it .
4th problem : I dont have any wires to use for control bear so i want to use a paper clip but i dont know if this is correct so can someone verify please ? : (Image attached to this post)
5th problem : I dont know if the method i am understanding for S - off is correct
What i think i need to do ,
Htc dev :
Unlock using htc dev
root using temp toot .bat
run control bear
do wire trick
install h boot
Install recovery
Ganeshp ver
Run temp root
run control bear
do wire trick
install H boot.
Install recovery
6th problem :
I believe you can flash roms with only unlocked bootloader but there is only 1 guide for it and its not very clear.
7th problem : Im afraid about bricking my device
Thanks for helping guys !
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1. I am on 3 mobile and my phone is also not listed on HTCDev. But I chose Sensation (EU) which worked fine. I believe its for all devices issued in Europe.
2. HTCDev voids the warranty as well as wipes off the data. But if you are gonna flash custom ROM or overclock then I guess you would eventually say good bye to your warranty anyway!
3. Burn a live CD for Ubuntu 12.04 and use it for Controlbear wire trick method. You dont need to install Ubuntu if you dont want to. There are guides here which give you controlbear tool for windows but word of advice... use the live CD and follow unlimited.io website only. They have made their tool safer over the time. Trust me its worth every hassle.
4. I am sure you would have a spare network ethernet cable lying somewhere at your place, use that one. Otherwise, people have reported the paper clip to be working but make sure you insulate it properly.
5. Here are the overall steps for everything.
- Unlock bootloader via HTCDev
- Use controlbear tool and wire trick to gain S-OFF (the tool downloaded from unlimited.io for Ubuntu will install custom hboot itself)
- Install custom recovery
- Obtain Root by flashing the zip package via this custom recovery
- Flash custom ROM for ICS (Try Androidrevolution HD... its good)
- You can download apps from the market to overclock your cpu.
(Ofcourse you can install custom ROM without being S-OFF.. use Asskicker's guide, its comprehensive and easy to understand)
6. Read through Ganesh's guide properly and you may be able to flash custom ROM without unlocking bootloader.
7. Everyone should be afraid of bricking their device, I was too. But if you do everything as it has been mentioned in the guide, then you should be confident that everything will be fine.
A few days ago I S-OFFed my device and was scared to my bones that I would brick my device but once I did it, I am feeling so good about it now. The guys here have helped me so much.
I presume you are on 1.2x hboot version.

aaaaannnnndddd read this post if you have time
the post explains everything regarding sensation you need to know

IM ****ting it!
ganeshp said:
aaaaannnnndddd read this post if you have time
the post explains everything regarding sensation you need to know
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Ok so i tried it , What i did :
I plugged in my phone and then i clicked root.bat
after temp root i clicked on control bear and it backed up my device etc
Then it told me to do wire trick so i tried my best and the phone went off
I then **** it and looked for flowolfs video on youtube , (the phone plugged in and control bear still running)
Control bear was telling me to check adb drivers and that it was waiting for my device .
I looked at flowolfs video and i unplugged my phone and then i plugged battery back in .
The phone works fine but i had to format sd card.
I went into bootloader but unfortunalty it shows s-on.

Heloooo said:
Ok so i tried it , What i did :
I plugged in my phone and then i clicked root.bat
after temp root i clicked on control bear and it backed up my device etc
Then it told me to do wire trick so i tried my best and the phone went off
I then **** it and looked for flowolfs video on youtube , (the phone plugged in and control bear still running)
Control bear was telling me to check adb drivers and that it was waiting for my device .
I looked at flowolfs video and i unplugged my phone and then i plugged battery back in .
The phone works fine but i had to format sd card.
I went into bootloader but unfortunalty it shows s-on.
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well you havent even done the wire-trick
the controlbear is throwing driver errors means problem in connection ..check troubleshoot #1 in my soff guide

Troubleshooting
ganeshp said:
well you havent even done the wire-trick
the controlbear is throwing driver errors means problem in connection ..check troubleshoot #1 in my soff guide
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Well control bear did say loading sixpacks to device but when it said do wire trick now the jupunutbear screen wasnt on ?
I dont have htc sync on laptop but i did have default htc sync on my phone as connection as i thought you needed it like this for temp root but after temp root UI isnt usable?

Heloooo said:
Well control bear did say loading sixpacks to device but when it said do wire trick now the jupunutbear screen wasnt on ?
I dont have htc sync on laptop but i did have default htc sync on my phone as connection as i thought you needed it like this for temp root but after temp root UI isnt usable?
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put it in charging mode and try again

Rooting + s off
rzr86 said:
put it in charging mode and try again
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I will try again but i hope i dont Brick it.

Thanks guys!
Thanks alot guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have now attained S - off on my 4th try at wire trick!
I thank , Ganesh for helping me out alot , and i also thank auggie 2k as i used his s-off troubleshoots and the gif image helped ! i also thank AndroidSupporter318 for all the help on the thread and my thanks also go out to Skip jacks for all the help on the thread!
I now need help again , my bootloader is locked but i have s - off does it matter? (i didnt htc dev unlock )
Also what are my next steps ?

Heloooo said:
Thanks alot guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have now attained S - off on my 4th try at wire trick!
I thank , Ganesh for helping me out alot , and i also thank auggie 2k as i used his s-off troubleshoots and the gif image helped ! i also thank AndroidSupporter318 for all the help on the thread and my thanks also go out to Skip jacks for all the help on the thread!
I now need help again , my bootloader is locked but i have s - off does it matter? (i didnt htc dev unlock )
Also what are my next steps ?
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flash 3.33 universal from firmware's thread in development section
it will give you also patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5 sums(important)
don't do htcdev unlock.it is unecessary

How?
rzr86 said:
flash 3.33 universal from firmware's thread in development section
it will give you also patched hboot which is unlocked
follow the instructions carefully
and before flashing check md5 sums(important)
don't do htcdev unlock.it is unecessary
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How do i flash it ? I dont have recovery installed .
1 more thing i cant find it

Here is 4ext recovery. I think the directions are in the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
Sent from my HTC Sensation

Heloooo said:
How do i flash it ? I dont have recovery installed .
1 more thing i cant find it
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Slow down a second, buddy. You're 1 step ahead of yourself. Though I respect your excitment fro this process!
You don't flash firmware in recovery. You flash firmware in bootloader.
Read this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767&highlight=firmware
In it you will find the how to flash firmware (it's REALLY easy. Just make sure to follow the directions.) And you will be able to download the firmware files.
Short version is that you download the firmware file which will be caleld PM58IMG.zip, put it on your SD Card, and reboot into bootloader. Bootlaoder will install the new firmware for you. Don't watch it. Just walk away for 5 minutes, or you are liable to freak out when the screen goes blank during the process. More than one person has gotten scared when that happened and pulled the battey to stop it...which WILL brick the phone. So let it do it's thing in peace. It takes 2 mintues.
When it reboots you will have a shiny new firmware with a fancy updated bootloader as well.
And someone else please answer this...do Kohr-Ah's firmware packages have 4EXT recovery already included? Or perhaps CWM? So that they flash with the firmware? It's been too long sinc eI used one I can't remember.

@Skipjacks
I don't think kohr-ah's firmwares have a recovery installed. Just the radio, adsp.IMG, hboot patch and other stuff that I don't know about. I don't see a recovery.IMG in the zip file. Unless the recovery is rcdata.IMG...
Sent from my HTC Sensation

AndroidSupporter318 said:
@Skipjacks
I don't think kohr-ah's firmwares have a recovery installed. Just the radio, adsp.IMG, hboot patch and other stuff that I don't know about. I don't see a recovery.IMG in the zip file. Unless the recovery is rcdata.IMG...
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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No I don't think that's it either. It must have been the firmwares for my old MyTouch 4G that had recovery included. Like I said, it's been a while.
Just see the 4EXT recovery thread AndroidSupporter posted earlier. It has the recovery download links.

Ok that thread says things such a cid do what is that ? , it also says check md5 what is that ?
Thanks guys !
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda app-developers app

Which version
I also dont understand which version is right for my phone , some one said 3.33 but which 3.33 there are two packs?

Heloooo said:
Ok that thread says things such a cid do what is that ? , it also says check md5 what is that ?
Thanks guys !
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda app-developers app
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The CID is how HTC locks down the phone so it can only get the updates that they want your phone to get. Each region and carrier has different CIDs, so you can't use a Europe firmware or official ROM on an America phone. Each firmware file contains a list of the CIDs it will install on. If your CID isn't on the list it won't install. But there is a super CID as well that is like a master key. With the superCID on your phone all firmware packages will install.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
See Step 4 to get Super CID. It's insanely simple as long as you have ADB installed.
Also the 3.33 firmware package may already include your CID. If it does you don't need to get Super CID. But it's easy, so why not?
An MD5 is a code that is generated that shows if 2 files match. If they match, the codes will be the same. If they don't, the files are different. With Firmware, ANY variation in the file can brick your phone. So you ALWAYS want to check to make sure the MD5 of the firmware file you downlaoded matches what it's supposed to be. That's why Kohr-Ah has the MD5 written under each download link.
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Heloooo said:
I also dont understand which version is right for my phone , some one said 3.33 but which 3.33 there are two packs?
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Say what now?
This post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21711303&postcount=2
First link at the top. It's the only 3.33 firmware there for download. (The one at the bottom is just the same file from a different download location)
Here is the same thing cut and pasted from that post. This is what you want.
Firmware 3.33 Universal:
DOWNLOAD:http://d-h.st/SuC
MD5: 07cc2a2ea4473e8fe8d6fe844c4020a1
Just put it on the root directory of the SD Card (don't put it in a folder) and boot into recovery. See if that works. If it doesn't then you have to Super CID. If it works, great. You're done. Flash recovery next.

[Q] HELP Needed? new to HTC

Hello Guys.... M really new to XDA as well as HTC devices.... had a Sony and a Samsung before... Seems HTC is entirely different!
i just needed some expertise on following questions i had in my mind:
1) i have bought an HTC one xl (snapdragon version) that is unlocked.. will a "FACTORY DATA RESET" or flashing of a custom rom lock it again??
(does this phone need to have an unlocked bootloader)
2) what is the best and most secure way to root it? (link to any guides will be much appreciated)
3) things that can possibly brick the phone and i should AVOID?
4) the best custom rom in terms of speed?
5) any necessary mods for stock rom?
PLEASE i neeed some help!

You need to find the correct root method for your current hboot. If your phone is the at&t model, click the link in my signature, then find the right root method for you. If it's not, just go to htcdev.com and unlock your bootloader, then you can flash TWRP recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
Sent from my Evita

1)Factory data reset in bootloader just clears the /data partition but does not function correctly at all if you unlock the bootloader for this device.
The only way to relock the bootloader is to do fastboot oem lock
2)As timmaaa said, follow the index. You want to unlock bootloader, flash ROM with root, get supercid, s-off.
The catches are:
AT&T devices need to gain temp root to get supercid before they can unlock bootloader.
Newer HTC updates eg new 3.17 and 5.xx updates may prevent you from getting supercid even with root, you may need to investigate downgrading things to get supercid.
With an unlocked bootloader, you are well on your way. You should check if you have supercid and if you are s-off.
3)Do not attempt to install HTC updates after you modify the phone. OTA is particular can be dangerous but even RUU's can be dangerous under some circumstances. OTA have many rules which are easy to follow once you have an idea of what they do, best bet is to just ignore them, RUU is fine if you have both s-off and supercid.
4)You can not ask that question and we can not answer it. It is unfair for someone to rate ROM's over other ROMs as the devs put a lot of effort in to these things. Each ROM is special in its own way, you need to check them out yourself.
A typical vibe is HTC stock ROMs will typically give the most reliable experience, eg less crashes, less bugs, etc, but tend to also lack features.
Unlocking your phone and modding it requires you to read and understand what you are getting yourself in to. It is not a perfect smooth ride, it is not for the average "non technical" user.
5)Not really

twistedddx said:
1)Factory data reset in bootloader just clears the /data partition but does not function correctly at all if you unlock the bootloader for this device.
The only way to relock the bootloader is to do fastboot oem lock
2)As timmaaa said, follow the index. You want to unlock bootloader, flash ROM with root, get supercid, s-off.
The catches are:
AT&T devices need to gain temp root to get supercid before they can unlock bootloader.
Newer HTC updates eg new 3.17 and 5.xx updates may prevent you from getting supercid even with root, you may need to investigate downgrading things to get supercid.
With an unlocked bootloader, you are well on your way. You should check if you have supercid and if you are s-off.
3)Do not attempt to install HTC updates after you modify the phone. OTA is particular can be dangerous but even RUU's can be dangerous under some circumstances. OTA have many rules which are easy to follow once you have an idea of what they do, best bet is to just ignore them, RUU is fine if you have both s-off and supercid.
4)You can not ask that question and we can not answer it. It is unfair for someone to rate ROM's over other ROMs as the devs put a lot of effort in to these things. Each ROM is special in its own way, you need to check them out yourself.
A typical vibe is HTC stock ROMs will typically give the most reliable experience, eg less crashes, less bugs, etc, but tend to also lack features.
Unlocking your phone and modding it requires you to read and understand what you are getting yourself in to. It is not a perfect smooth ride, it is not for the average "non technical" user.
5)Not really
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thanks a lot man....
i appreciate since u elaborated on every aspect...!! =)
btw m sorry if i am wrong but what i meant in my first question was does rooting or a reset or flashing affect the "sim unlock" (or the factory unlock or jailbreak)? [the vendor says its unlocked to work on all networks]
besides you are right i was wrong with the approach.. every developer puts in a lot of efforts in ROM development and its not fair to rate it!
the only reason i would possibly root is to remove bloatware.

and rvhaval
timmaaa said:
You need to find the correct root method for your current hboot. If your phone is the at&t model, click the link in my signature, then find the right root method for you. If it's not, just go to htcdev.com and unlock your bootloader, then you can flash TWRP recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
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thanks i will surely go through that!
the thing that actually haunts me is this phone doesn't have a removable battery so if anything goes wrong and i have some boot loops i would be in a very hopeless situation.. So I need to go through everything!

Sonone said:
thanks i will surely go through that!
the thing that actually haunts me is this phone doesn't have a removable battery so if anything goes wrong and i have some boot loops i would be in a very hopeless situation.. So I need to go through everything!
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You can simulate a battery pull by holding volume down and power buttons together. When you do this the button lights will start flashing, when they stop flashing you can let go of the power button but keep holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader.
Sent from my Evita

Sim unlock is unrelated to bootloader unlock, ROM flashing, etc etc.
The sim unlock should survive most everything you will do. Although I have not tested as my device was never locked.

thanks!! i hope it survives!

timmaaa said:
You can simulate a battery pull by holding volume down and power buttons together. When you do this the button lights will start flashing, when they stop flashing you can let go of the power button but keep holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader.
Sent from my Evita
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that sounds good!!
the people on this device forum seem very helpful:good::angel::highfive:

timmaaa said:
You can simulate a battery pull by holding volume down and power buttons together. When you do this the button lights will start flashing, when they stop flashing you can let go of the power button but keep holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader.
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that sounds good!!
the people on this device forum seem very helpful:good::angel::highfive:

so Timaaaa i have done the following...
please i would like to give you a brief update of the following things..
1)Unlocked Bootloader
2)i have s-off
3)supercid is 11111111
4) installed twrp version 6.xx.xxx
5)my radio is 1.30a.32.45.18
6)hboot is 2.15.0000
7)device is now rooted
so m i good to flash custom roms like Cm,PAC,SLIM?

That all looks fine apart from two things.
The TWRP version you mentioned doesn't look right, the latest TWRP is 2.6.3, could you double check that?
Also, your hboot is 2.15 which will be ok for flashing cm, but I think PAC still has a restriction to hboot 2.14 and I'm not sure about Slim. Hboot 2.15 is perfect for running the latest Sense 5 ROMs though.
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timmaaa said:
That all looks fine apart from two things.
The TWRP version you mentioned doesn't look right, the latest TWRP is 2.6.3, could you double check that?
Also, your hboot is 2.15 which will be ok for flashing cm, but I think PAC still has a restriction to hboot 2.14 and I'm not sure about Slim. Hboot 2.15 is perfect for running the latest Sense 5 ROMs though.
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As u said i checked again its 2.5.0.0 how to update twrp?
it actually works well......
btw is it possible to change hboot version?
and thanks as always!

TWRP 2.5 is full of bugs, you should update to at least 2.6, here's how:
Download TWRP 2.6 from here. Put the file in your fastboot folder. Connect phone in fastboot mode, open command prompt from within fastboot folder, issue the following commands:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery "filename.img"
(the exact filename, minus the talking marks)
Code:
fastboot erase cache
Code:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
Now you'll have a much better version of TWRP.
You can upgrade and downgrade your hboot, there's a thread on our forum somewhere but I can't remember where, just search downgrade hboot within our forum and it should appear.
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did that... btw when i installed it... and tried to clear the cache partition and dalvik cache it said it "failed"...!!
Btw also i wanted to know..
since i had a Samsung before flashing a rom just meant copying the zip file and installing it through cwm followed by a resets (if needed)
is this the same way for HTC ONE xl. or like Sony do i have to first unzip the downloaded rom.. and flash the "boot.img" separately??

So even after putting TWRP 2.6 on your phone you get a failed message when trying to wipe?
With this phone all you need to do is copy the ROM zip onto the phone and install it, you are s-off so you don't need to worry about flashing the boot.img via fastboot.
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i tried it again mate and it works absolutely fine!
yay!!!! :laugh: flashing roms will be great!:good:
wish if we had a dual boot interface like we have on our computers installing every single app again becomes so inconvenient!:fingers-crossed:
btw m really sorry to bombard you with all the quetions:silly: i just needed to ask one thing that do we have a list of bloatware apps which are safe to remove..
i did google it but then it was very specific to carrier bloatware. as i have got an unlocked version there are no carrier bloatware apps but i do have some apps which seem useless at the moment.. i did freeze a few... but it would have helped if there would have been a list!

I'd love a dual boot setup too. In terms of bloatware, you can remove a fair bit but be careful while doing it. Removing anything that is integral to the running of the ROM will cause problems. Things like Stocks, Picasa, Talkback can be removed if you don't use them. Obviously don't remove anything like Phone or Messages lol.
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timmaaa said:
I'd love a dual boot setup too. In terms of bloatware, you can remove a fair bit but be careful while doing it. Removing anything that is integral to the running of the ROM will cause problems. Things like Stocks, Picasa, Talkback can be removed if you don't use them. Obviously don't remove anything like Phone or Messages lol.
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ya i wont ripp off phone or system ui etc :laugh:
m thinking of flashing clean rom 7.0.1 but den it seems it has an at&t bootscreen or something like that during start up which m not very inclined to have....
so i will stick to the rules not asking for any advice on which rom is preffered as every one of dem i great and i will check them out one by one.

I haven't tried the new Cleamrom, it's a very stock kind of ROM which isn't really my flavour but it's a very popular ROM.
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[Q] need help with installing custom rom on htc sensation pyramid

hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.

rajdeeprath said:
hi everyone
i havebeen struggling with this for 2 years now. i have HTC sensation with hboot 1.18.xxxx that i bought in 2011. after the first year i have been keen to move to a newer rom. i have tried to look up inf in xda and elsewhere and got no where with this.
i have been worried about bricking so much that i didnt try to many weird procedures. i had even tried to go through with the android revolution installation procedure but failed right on. because revolutionary does not with with my device even though thr hboot is supported.
i badly need to move to a newer jelly bean based rom or later else my device is like a stone-age crap. i sincerely request some straight forward process / guidance of getting through this without weird, wire trick etc.
i really want to keep this device instead of buying a new device for no reason. but i dont know how to start and how to end. kindly help me out.
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1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.

tom0769 said:
1st
This is definately not the place to ask for "all inclusive help".
You should at least do some own basic researches or leave your phone as it is,
especially when you're worried about bricking your device.
There are so many excellent descriptions here, that could guide you to flash a custom rom.
2nd
If you are on hboot 1.18 you don't need to do the wire trick for s-off, just have a look at this.
If you searched a little bit, you'd find out yourself.
But even the wire trick is nothing "bad", I did it on 6 devices till now.
I'd like to encourage you to simply read/search a little bit more here in the forums before coming back and asking for help.
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thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.

rajdeeprath said:
thanks for the reply. as i mentioned revolutionary does NOT work for me. it says failed to get root. i have already tried those things about 8 times now and it didnt work for me. thats why i have posted here for help.
using htcdev i know i can try to unlock but it wont soff. so i dont know if that will help me or not.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.

Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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thanks i will try to read up and post back if needed. Admin please move the thread to appropriate category.

Sajito said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751187 to gain S-OFF. Don't worry about the htcdev part.
I did it on a complete stock sensation xe with hboot 1.27 or 1.29 (can't remember exactly).
Just use the temp root and rumrunner.
For any information read the thread first, before asking.
Also this thread should be moved, because it doesn't belong into the development section.
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i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?

rajdeeprath said:
i went through the thread again and again but still find it somewhat confusing. I cant seem to separate the temproot process start and end in there. can someone outline just the temproot procedure and the pre-requisite for it ?
Does temproot require controlbear files ? rumrunner site says it requires a htc dev unlocked device. is that a must ?
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I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.

Sajito said:
I'm not 100% sure about the exact steps anymore, but you don't need Controlbear, you just need the temp root.
When you have temp root, run rumrunner and follow the instructions.
I said read the thread, cause it might be possible that you get the message that it didn't work, while it actually did work.
You'll get everything needed in the thread. Otherwise just ask.
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Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.

rajdeeprath said:
Seriously dont know if i am plain unlucky or topic are not very useful for a newbie.
1. Revolutionary failed
2. i did temp root + rumrunner - failed (image attached)
I wonder if my device was not made on this earth or something. Just simply soff. Also dont know if i cant install a JB rom on this without soff safely.
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What firmware and hboot do you have?

My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000

rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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do you have sdk tools installed?(adb/fastboot)
also check if usb debugging mode is ticked

oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.

rajdeeprath said:
oh! hello again hope you are great.
yes i have adb setup properly. i do android dev so all development tools are setup properly. htc drivers are installed htc sync has been uninstalled.
i have tried on windows 8 and windows 7 pcs.
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if revolutionary.io method doesn't work then try to update officially
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
then try with juopunutbear or rumrunner method again

rajdeeprath said:
My rom is gingerbread stock version 1.52.xxxx and hboot is 1.18.0000
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One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.

tom0769 said:
One thing you could do is:
- get your phone updated to ICS (OTA over device settings) to get the latest firmware/hboot on it
- HTC Dev unlock your device (nothing complicated, you need to have fastboot running)
- Install/flash latest 4ext recovery (once more via fastboot) and enable smart flash option
Now in recovery with updated firmware/hboot make a nandroid backup and flash almost every rom you like.
In first place I'd not flash a CM12 rom.
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firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks

rajdeeprath said:
firstly thank you very much for continuing to show hope. appreciate that. tell me thiss. i have a ota pending which i haven't gone for yet.
4.0 update sense 3.6 system upgrade 3.33.720.6
see attached image.
i never did that cause not everyone on htc blog had a good experience. Should i do that now ? will that help me move forward? will i be able to install android revolution or vipers or cyanogenmod after this? will i be able to soff?
i understand 3.33 is ics firmware ? right? what if i wish to go for jellybean ?
thanks
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since you update to ics you will be able to flash every ics/jb/kk/lp custom rom you like

so should i go ahead with the official ics update?

It's up to you.
Might be you're just satisfied with your new ICS firmware.
If you want to go further, unlock and custom recovery is an quite easy step.
For custom rom s-off is not necessarily needed.
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rajdeeprath said:
so should i go ahead with the official ics update?
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If you do the update, try again with rumrunner after it has finished.

Thanks. I updated to ICS and did a full factory reset. The device seems to be quiet smooth compared to GB though. The next update i do will be using what you suggested. Without SOFF flashing a custom rom.
When i get there i will message back on this thread. Going to test drive this ICS now for a while.time.