Hello Guys.... M really new to XDA as well as HTC devices.... had a Sony and a Samsung before... Seems HTC is entirely different!
i just needed some expertise on following questions i had in my mind:
1) i have bought an HTC one xl (snapdragon version) that is unlocked.. will a "FACTORY DATA RESET" or flashing of a custom rom lock it again??
(does this phone need to have an unlocked bootloader)
2) what is the best and most secure way to root it? (link to any guides will be much appreciated)
3) things that can possibly brick the phone and i should AVOID?
4) the best custom rom in terms of speed?
5) any necessary mods for stock rom?
PLEASE i neeed some help!
You need to find the correct root method for your current hboot. If your phone is the at&t model, click the link in my signature, then find the right root method for you. If it's not, just go to htcdev.com and unlock your bootloader, then you can flash TWRP recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
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1)Factory data reset in bootloader just clears the /data partition but does not function correctly at all if you unlock the bootloader for this device.
The only way to relock the bootloader is to do fastboot oem lock
2)As timmaaa said, follow the index. You want to unlock bootloader, flash ROM with root, get supercid, s-off.
The catches are:
AT&T devices need to gain temp root to get supercid before they can unlock bootloader.
Newer HTC updates eg new 3.17 and 5.xx updates may prevent you from getting supercid even with root, you may need to investigate downgrading things to get supercid.
With an unlocked bootloader, you are well on your way. You should check if you have supercid and if you are s-off.
3)Do not attempt to install HTC updates after you modify the phone. OTA is particular can be dangerous but even RUU's can be dangerous under some circumstances. OTA have many rules which are easy to follow once you have an idea of what they do, best bet is to just ignore them, RUU is fine if you have both s-off and supercid.
4)You can not ask that question and we can not answer it. It is unfair for someone to rate ROM's over other ROMs as the devs put a lot of effort in to these things. Each ROM is special in its own way, you need to check them out yourself.
A typical vibe is HTC stock ROMs will typically give the most reliable experience, eg less crashes, less bugs, etc, but tend to also lack features.
Unlocking your phone and modding it requires you to read and understand what you are getting yourself in to. It is not a perfect smooth ride, it is not for the average "non technical" user.
5)Not really
twistedddx said:
1)Factory data reset in bootloader just clears the /data partition but does not function correctly at all if you unlock the bootloader for this device.
The only way to relock the bootloader is to do fastboot oem lock
2)As timmaaa said, follow the index. You want to unlock bootloader, flash ROM with root, get supercid, s-off.
The catches are:
AT&T devices need to gain temp root to get supercid before they can unlock bootloader.
Newer HTC updates eg new 3.17 and 5.xx updates may prevent you from getting supercid even with root, you may need to investigate downgrading things to get supercid.
With an unlocked bootloader, you are well on your way. You should check if you have supercid and if you are s-off.
3)Do not attempt to install HTC updates after you modify the phone. OTA is particular can be dangerous but even RUU's can be dangerous under some circumstances. OTA have many rules which are easy to follow once you have an idea of what they do, best bet is to just ignore them, RUU is fine if you have both s-off and supercid.
4)You can not ask that question and we can not answer it. It is unfair for someone to rate ROM's over other ROMs as the devs put a lot of effort in to these things. Each ROM is special in its own way, you need to check them out yourself.
A typical vibe is HTC stock ROMs will typically give the most reliable experience, eg less crashes, less bugs, etc, but tend to also lack features.
Unlocking your phone and modding it requires you to read and understand what you are getting yourself in to. It is not a perfect smooth ride, it is not for the average "non technical" user.
5)Not really
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thanks a lot man....
i appreciate since u elaborated on every aspect...!! =)
btw m sorry if i am wrong but what i meant in my first question was does rooting or a reset or flashing affect the "sim unlock" (or the factory unlock or jailbreak)? [the vendor says its unlocked to work on all networks]
besides you are right i was wrong with the approach.. every developer puts in a lot of efforts in ROM development and its not fair to rate it!
the only reason i would possibly root is to remove bloatware.
and rvhaval
timmaaa said:
You need to find the correct root method for your current hboot. If your phone is the at&t model, click the link in my signature, then find the right root method for you. If it's not, just go to htcdev.com and unlock your bootloader, then you can flash TWRP recovery, and flash a custom ROM.
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thanks i will surely go through that!
the thing that actually haunts me is this phone doesn't have a removable battery so if anything goes wrong and i have some boot loops i would be in a very hopeless situation.. So I need to go through everything!
Sonone said:
thanks i will surely go through that!
the thing that actually haunts me is this phone doesn't have a removable battery so if anything goes wrong and i have some boot loops i would be in a very hopeless situation.. So I need to go through everything!
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You can simulate a battery pull by holding volume down and power buttons together. When you do this the button lights will start flashing, when they stop flashing you can let go of the power button but keep holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader.
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Sim unlock is unrelated to bootloader unlock, ROM flashing, etc etc.
The sim unlock should survive most everything you will do. Although I have not tested as my device was never locked.
thanks!! i hope it survives!
timmaaa said:
You can simulate a battery pull by holding volume down and power buttons together. When you do this the button lights will start flashing, when they stop flashing you can let go of the power button but keep holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader.
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that sounds good!!
the people on this device forum seem very helpful:good::angel::highfive:
timmaaa said:
You can simulate a battery pull by holding volume down and power buttons together. When you do this the button lights will start flashing, when they stop flashing you can let go of the power button but keep holding volume down. This will take you to the bootloader.
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that sounds good!!
the people on this device forum seem very helpful:good::angel::highfive:
so Timaaaa i have done the following...
please i would like to give you a brief update of the following things..
1)Unlocked Bootloader
2)i have s-off
3)supercid is 11111111
4) installed twrp version 6.xx.xxx
5)my radio is 1.30a.32.45.18
6)hboot is 2.15.0000
7)device is now rooted
so m i good to flash custom roms like Cm,PAC,SLIM?
That all looks fine apart from two things.
The TWRP version you mentioned doesn't look right, the latest TWRP is 2.6.3, could you double check that?
Also, your hboot is 2.15 which will be ok for flashing cm, but I think PAC still has a restriction to hboot 2.14 and I'm not sure about Slim. Hboot 2.15 is perfect for running the latest Sense 5 ROMs though.
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timmaaa said:
That all looks fine apart from two things.
The TWRP version you mentioned doesn't look right, the latest TWRP is 2.6.3, could you double check that?
Also, your hboot is 2.15 which will be ok for flashing cm, but I think PAC still has a restriction to hboot 2.14 and I'm not sure about Slim. Hboot 2.15 is perfect for running the latest Sense 5 ROMs though.
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As u said i checked again its 2.5.0.0 how to update twrp?
it actually works well......
btw is it possible to change hboot version?
and thanks as always!
TWRP 2.5 is full of bugs, you should update to at least 2.6, here's how:
Download TWRP 2.6 from here. Put the file in your fastboot folder. Connect phone in fastboot mode, open command prompt from within fastboot folder, issue the following commands:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery "filename.img"
(the exact filename, minus the talking marks)
Code:
fastboot erase cache
Code:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
Now you'll have a much better version of TWRP.
You can upgrade and downgrade your hboot, there's a thread on our forum somewhere but I can't remember where, just search downgrade hboot within our forum and it should appear.
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did that... btw when i installed it... and tried to clear the cache partition and dalvik cache it said it "failed"...!!
Btw also i wanted to know..
since i had a Samsung before flashing a rom just meant copying the zip file and installing it through cwm followed by a resets (if needed)
is this the same way for HTC ONE xl. or like Sony do i have to first unzip the downloaded rom.. and flash the "boot.img" separately??
So even after putting TWRP 2.6 on your phone you get a failed message when trying to wipe?
With this phone all you need to do is copy the ROM zip onto the phone and install it, you are s-off so you don't need to worry about flashing the boot.img via fastboot.
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i tried it again mate and it works absolutely fine!
yay!!!! :laugh: flashing roms will be great!:good:
wish if we had a dual boot interface like we have on our computers installing every single app again becomes so inconvenient!:fingers-crossed:
btw m really sorry to bombard you with all the quetions:silly: i just needed to ask one thing that do we have a list of bloatware apps which are safe to remove..
i did google it but then it was very specific to carrier bloatware. as i have got an unlocked version there are no carrier bloatware apps but i do have some apps which seem useless at the moment.. i did freeze a few... but it would have helped if there would have been a list!
I'd love a dual boot setup too. In terms of bloatware, you can remove a fair bit but be careful while doing it. Removing anything that is integral to the running of the ROM will cause problems. Things like Stocks, Picasa, Talkback can be removed if you don't use them. Obviously don't remove anything like Phone or Messages lol.
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timmaaa said:
I'd love a dual boot setup too. In terms of bloatware, you can remove a fair bit but be careful while doing it. Removing anything that is integral to the running of the ROM will cause problems. Things like Stocks, Picasa, Talkback can be removed if you don't use them. Obviously don't remove anything like Phone or Messages lol.
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ya i wont ripp off phone or system ui etc :laugh:
m thinking of flashing clean rom 7.0.1 but den it seems it has an at&t bootscreen or something like that during start up which m not very inclined to have....
so i will stick to the rules not asking for any advice on which rom is preffered as every one of dem i great and i will check them out one by one.
I haven't tried the new Cleamrom, it's a very stock kind of ROM which isn't really my flavour but it's a very popular ROM.
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I used HTC's official unlock and my phone is unlocked, but has S-On. Is there a benefit to S-Off now that mine is unlocked? What is the difference between how the unlocks are? Sorry if i'm not making much sense, I'm new to this place and Android in general... I just got my sensation last week.
Welcome to Sensation
Don't worry, everyone's a noob at some point, I'm pretty much still a noob myself but as far as I understand it:
To this point you have unlocked your bootloader which simply allows the phone to boot with third-party software installed. In your phone there is a form of security check and the level of security is determined by whether you are S-ON or S-OFF. It's a flag at the radio level of your phone that checks images before they are allowed to be written to the system memory. So when you gain S-OFF, you gain unrestricted access to the NAND flash memory on your device, also known as root. With S-ON you can get temporary root but it's not guaranteed, with S-OFF you can get permanent root no matter what you flash.
Essentially gaining S-OFF permits superuser access to the phone, giving you control over all aspects of software and hardware.
If you like your phone the way it comes to you, all filled up with bloatware and stuck using only the latest version of Android that your carrier releases OTA, with a boring/crappy splash screen and boot animation (and so on and so forth ) then you have no real reason to get S-OFF.
If however you have seen some of the shiny ROMs put together by the devs here at XDA, or have a sweet custom splash screen you'd love to see every time you boot up the phone, or just like the idea of having complete control over YOUR phone and flashing what-the-hell-ever ROM/firmware/radio/other stuff you damn well please, then you should definitely consider rooting.
The disclaimer to all this is that if you aren't careful and don't thoroughly research what you're doing BEFORE you do it, you could brick your phone and give yourself some serious grief. The fact you're even asking this now is a point in your favour, there are far too many 'help me' posts on here from people who did something without bothering to try and understand it first. Knowledge is power and there's buckets of knowledge on this forum and others.
I'd suggest reading here and here at the very least.
Hope that helps
s-off means you may do anything with your phone,
you will lose warrenty at s-off gain it at s-on
as the other guy said if u want a nice toutch to your rom s-off it and install, if u want it still legal dont
Thanks for the info. I've been considering using an ICS OTA file on my HTC Sensation 4G, but the guides i've seen only mention S-OFF and nothing about the unlocked S-ON. I just can't wait for the official release!
On the other hand though, I also want to remove bloatware from this phone and found a script for such... but i can't seem to get any temp root method working. I'm not ready to jump off the deep end yet, but i'm tired of the unnecessary stuff.
I also couldn't wait for the official ICS release so I s-off, rooted, super CID, and flashed an ICS firmware and went to android revolution. Honestly, it's one of the best decisions Ive ever made. If you think your stock phone is running good right now, you'll be amazed when you flash it, it will run absolutely faster I tell you.
Though there are alot of risks doing all of that, it might brick your phone completely. So be very careful, read and understand everything if you're going to do all of those stuff.
Sent from revolutionized HTC Sensation ICS
HTC sensation stuck at boot
Hey Guys Noob here,
I need help big time. I gone and mess with something I shouldn't have. I'm a first time android/touch screen user so bear with me.
I was trying to S-off my phone (alrady rooted- after several tries) but I downloaded the juopunutbear zip file on my phone. I mistakenly loaded it via the CWM recovery and now the screen is stuck on that juopunutbear image.
I have tried to flash my rom because I thought it was just a boot loop, but nothing happened. I NEED some advice please don't tell me I bricked it. :crying:
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Hey Guys Noob here,
I need help big time. I gone and mess with something I shouldn't have. I'm a first time android/touch screen user so bear with me.
I was trying to S-off my phone (alrady rooted- after several tries) but I downloaded the juopunutbear zip file on my phone. I mistakenly loaded it via the CWM recovery and now the screen is stuck on that juopunutbear image.
I have tried to flash my rom because I thought it was just a boot loop, but nothing happened. I NEED some advice please don't tell me I bricked it. :crying:
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if you can boot into bootloader then you are not bricked
secondly what do you mean by juopunutbear.zip and from where?
edit:you said that you are already rooted
which means that you have unlocked bootloader from htcdev site am i right?
Yes it was already unlock from HTC dev, but I was trying to get S- off using the wire trick method. In reading the Jounutbear guide thread it directed u to a link which has the zip file which I should have run on my pc but I had mistakenly installed it from my sd card and now it isn't going furthuer than that screen. I now can't using the Jbear exe bcuz it not recogining it.
I don't really want to keep adding my nonsense to the thread how can I PM someone for help.
man+droid said:
Yes it was already unlock from HTC dev, but I was trying to get S- off using the wire trick method. In reading the Jounutbear guide thread it directed u to a link which has the zip file which I should have run on my pc but I had mistakenly installed it from my sd card and now it isn't going furthuer than that screen. I now can't using the Jbear exe bcuz it not recogining it.
I don't really want to keep adding my nonsense to the thread how can I PM someone for help.
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do this
install 4ext recovery
enable smartflash from it
flash the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
man+droid said:
I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
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that's weird
did you perform a full wipe(from recovery) before flashing the rom?
also as long as you are on S-ON use 4ext recovery to flash the rom
and before flashing the rom enable smartflash from 4ext
if you have done all the above then use a ruu.exe to return to stock condition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
Well that thread seems to be a mouth full remember I'm a noob. But I will try and read that again to get what it really says. It seems though that it was a complex instruction how to get back to the stock rom? Isn't there a file for that I can download. I get to doing that RUU thing to see if it works tho
man+droid said:
Well that thread seems to be a mouth full remember I'm a noob. But I will try and read that again to get what it really says. It seems though that it was a complex instruction how to get back to the stock rom? Isn't there a file for that I can download. I get to doing that RUU thing to see if it works tho
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i saw your post in the other thread
you managed to install 4ext
now try to flash a custom rom
before flashing the rom enable smartflash from 4ext
Hey guys good news
I finally got the phone to power on. I saw this thread that highlead my pro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284273 but I was really got the details from another forum. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it so I won't, but I'll sum it up.
All I need to do was flash the boot image on my current rom (get this from the zip file) and also flash the recovery image from a backup I had and presto.
But I'll go and follow you guys instruction about enabling the 4ext smart flash from now on. What I want to know though is for some custom roms (eg cyanogenmod 10.1) do I needs to be S-off to install it?
If so I'm still gonna try and S-off this here thingy. Givethanks y'all
man+droid said:
Hey guys good news
I finally got the phone to power on. I saw this thread that highlead my pro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284273 but I was really got the details from another forum. I don't know if I'm allowed to post it so I won't, but I'll sum it up.
All I need to do was flash the boot image on my current rom (get this from the zip file) and also flash the recovery image from a backup I had and presto.
But I'll go and follow you guys instruction about enabling the 4ext smart flash from now on. What I want to know though is for some custom roms (eg cyanogenmod 10.1) do I needs to be S-off to install it?
If so I'm still gonna try and S-off this here thingy. Givethanks y'all
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any ICS/JB rom you can install via enabling smartflash in 4EXT before flashing the ROM
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any ICS/JB rom you can install via enabling smartflash in 4EXT before flashing the ROM
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Hey thanx for the heads up. So I'm finally s-off using the J-bear method but where unlocked use to be I'm now seeing the juopunutbear there so I got back into android but it was the old CWM that was on it how do I get back the 4ext and would that be a prob if that J name remains there tho?
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Hey thanx for the heads up. So I'm finally s-off using the J-bear method but where unlocked use to be I'm now seeing the juopunutbear there so I got back into android but it was the old CWM that was on it how do I get back the 4ext and would that be a prob if that J name remains there tho?
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no you are fine now
there is no problem with juopunutbear because now you have patched hboot which is unlocked
you are fine also with cwm recovery
but if you still want 4ext do only step 2 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
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I did all that but the phone keeps booting up with the Juoputnutbear image that point to the phone. It looks similar to when I was just rooting the phone but it just no picking up nothing but that.
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might be a bad dl. Download it again and reflash or try a different rom.
So Guys black friday is around the corner and I plan to upgrade from my dated HTC Aria. I'm obviously looking at the HOX and the S3 and just by personal preference am leaning towards the HOX (ATT version). However what is really worrying me is that the HOX seems to be locked down quite a bit. I'm not a dev or anything I just want to be able to flash custom rom and experience senseless android in jellybean. So I have some questions...
1) If I buy a HOX with the 2.02 version what are my options rooting wise or am I just screwed?
2) I'm coming from a rooted Aria where rom flashing was easy with clockworkmod recovery. I been lurking this forum and it seems like a painful process now and what is this boot.img thing.
3) Also if anyone isn't to annoyed by my lack of knowledge could you explain what the "S-ON/S-OFF" is as well as the limitation with the fact that HTC locked the boot loader?
I like the HOX but am getting scared away by the fact that this phone is so locked up.
sunny342 said:
So Guys black friday is around the corner and I plan to upgrade from my dated HTC Aria. I'm obviously looking at the HOX and the S3 and just by personal preference am leaning towards the HOX (ATT version). However what is really worrying me is that the HOX seems to be locked down quite a bit. I'm not a dev or anything I just want to be able to flash custom rom and experience senseless android in jellybean. So I have some questions...
1) If I buy a HOX with the 2.02 version what are my options rooting wise or am I just screwed?
2) I'm coming from a rooted Aria where rom flashing was easy with clockworkmod recovery. I been lurking this forum and it seems like a painful process now and what is this boot.img thing.
3) Also if anyone isn't to annoyed by my lack of knowledge could you explain what the "S-ON/S-OFF" is as well as the limitation with the fact that HTC locked the boot loader?
I like the HOX but am getting scared away by the fact that this phone is so locked up.
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First off, when you get it rooted... DONT FLASH ICJ.
Second, when you get it downgrade you hboot via the JET tool or manually through the WIP Unbrick evita thread by Absolutelygrim. Then in the JET tool thread, you'll find a way to RUU down grade. Choose 1.85 Then you won't have to worry about flashing the boot.img in fastboot. All that is, is a way to bypass AT&T's safe gaurd programming. They tried to make it so the boot.img couldn't be formed in recovery. That's only with the 2.20 firmware though.
Third, IDK. I'm still learning why S-OFF is like gold. Someone else might be able to answer that one but, not me.
1) 2.20 firmware is fully rootable, and has been for a few weeks now. Worries about there not being a root method for 2.20 are outdated, and no longer apply.
2) First off, CWM is not recommended for this device. It never officially supported the Snapdragon S4 variant, and was just a port, with serious known issues. A different custom recovery, TWRP is recommended, and works great.
With the 1.14 hboot that comes with the 2.20 firmware, the hole by which boot.img was flashed via recovery was plugged. So whenever you flash a new ROM, you need to extract boot.img from the ROM zip, and flash it separately via fastboot (phone connected to your PC). Or as previously mentioned, you can downgrade the hboot to eliminate this step.
Aside from that, flashing ROMs on TWRP is just as easy as CWM on your Aria (once you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed).
3) S-Off means all security off. It hasn't yet been achieved yet on this device. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can flash ROMs and other mods. With a downgraded hboot, you can flash radios. So there isn't much that S-Off would give you, that isn't already possible. Being able to get SIM unlock for free might be possible with S-Off, as well as turning off the warning flag that the bootloader was unlocked. But for the most part, that is really it. For most uses, S-Off simply is not needed. S-On and bootloader unlock fulfills most needs.
All that said, are you aware the One X+ is being released by AT&T tomorrow? It features a slightly faster CPU/GPU and much more internal storage. Unless you are on a budget, that is probably the phone I would go for at this point. But I think it also remains to be seen about root and bootloader unlock for the One X+.
Another aria convert, yay. As stated above, you shouldn't have any concerns about this device. TWRP is actually much easier to use than CWM. The flashing boot.IMG separately is something you won't need to do once you downgrade the firmware.
And as said above, I'd just get a one x+ if I had the money. We only get 9.93GB of SD storage space on this phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL
Hello guys, i am also thinking about getting this phone, but i've been searching this forum and it seems that flashing ROMs is a bit complicated, and i'm not sure..
What are the pros and cons of unlocking the bootloader? could i brick the phone by doing that?
Is there a guide for noobies like me, a tutorial or something? sorry.. i'm new to this.. :fingers-crossed:
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Hello guys, i am also thinking about getting this phone, but i've been searching this forum and it seems that flashing ROMs is a bit complicated, and i'm not sure..
What are the pros and cons of unlocking the bootloader? could i brick the phone by doing that?
Is there a guide for noobies like me, a tutorial or something? sorry.. i'm new to this.. :fingers-crossed:
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Would you be getting the AT&T version, or another variant?
Setting the phone up for flashing ROMs is a bit more complicated than some other manufacturers. But this is just how it is for HTC, they have an increasing degree of security on their phones.
You have to unlock the bootloader, which really isn't all that hard. Then install custom recovery and you can flash ROMs. The AT&T version has the extra steps of temp root, SuperCID before you can unlock the bootloader.
Once the phone is setup, flashing ROMs is just like any other phone. With the exception of having to extract boot.img from the ROM zip and flashing via fastboot. But I believe this only applies to the AT&T version with the 1.14 hboot. Even so, you can downgrade the hboot, so you don't have to do the extra step of manually flashing boot.img.
Bricking the phone while unlocking the bootloader is unlikely. But its always a possibility with any mods. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone (not really an issue if you are doing it right away after buying) and you also have to confirm that you understand that unlocking the bootloader may void your warranty. Other than that, there is no real "con" to it.
I just finished unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing venom Rom and putting beastmode custom kernel on my [email protected] hox. It's easy now even with 2.2. Just download the all in one tool kit found in the stickied thread for the hox. Does almost all work for you.
Flashing Rom there after word was very similar to cwm was. Loaded it on my internal storage and flashed via recovery
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
redpoint73 said:
1) 2.20 firmware is fully rootable, and has been for a few weeks now. Worries about there not being a root method for 2.20 are outdated, and no longer apply.
2) First off, CWM is not recommended for this device. It never officially supported the Snapdragon S4 variant, and was just a port, with serious known issues. A different custom recovery, TWRP is recommended, and works great.
With the 1.14 hboot that comes with the 2.20 firmware, the hole by which boot.img was flashed via recovery was plugged. So whenever you flash a new ROM, you need to extract boot.img from the ROM zip, and flash it separately via fastboot (phone connected to your PC). Or as previously mentioned, you can downgrade the hboot to eliminate this step.
Aside from that, flashing ROMs on TWRP is just as easy as CWM on your Aria (once you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed).
3) S-Off means all security off. It hasn't yet been achieved yet on this device. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can flash ROMs and other mods. With a downgraded hboot, you can flash radios. So there isn't much that S-Off would give you, that isn't already possible. Being able to get SIM unlock for free might be possible with S-Off, as well as turning off the warning flag that the bootloader was unlocked. But for the most part, that is really it. For most uses, S-Off simply is not needed. S-On and bootloader unlock fulfills most needs.
All that said, are you aware the One X+ is being released by AT&T tomorrow? It features a slightly faster CPU/GPU and much more internal storage. Unless you are on a budget, that is probably the phone I would go for at this point. But I think it also remains to be seen about root and bootloader unlock for the One X+.
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I am aware of the One X+ but I am on a budget and the slight performance boost to me doesn't justify the price. Radio shack will have the HOX for free on blackfriday. Also thanks for the answers to the questions your comment cleared up alot for me.
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Another aria convert, yay. As stated above, you shouldn't have any concerns about this device. TWRP is actually much easier to use than CWM. The flashing boot.IMG separately is something you won't need to do once you downgrade the firmware.
And as said above, I'd just get a one x+ if I had the money. We only get 9.93GB of SD storage space on this phone.
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ARIA FTW lol. I need the upgrade to the HOX. Only 9.9GB sucks pretty bad but I can make it work. If only I too had the money for the one X+
You don't need to wait for black friday to get the HOX for free. It's currently free on ATT on Amazon Wireless, and has been for a couple weeks.
If you follow instructions properly and read up on everything necessary, unlocking, rooting, and flashing the HOX is a breeze; 2.20 only introduces one additional, straightforward step.
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You don't need to wait for black friday to get the HOX for free. It's currently free on ATT on Amazon Wireless, and has been for a couple weeks.
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Im eligible for a qualified upgrade on my family plan so I can't take advantage of the new contract deal.
I have a one SV on cricket (US)
K2_PLC_CL (s-on) still
Ok so it was all stock from store. Tan I did this in order:
1.) Unlocked bootloader from HTC dev...
2.) (flashed) Installed CMW v6.0.2.8 via ADB
3.) MADE BACKUP with CWM
4.) Rooted by flashing a zip via CMW (worked great)
5.) tried moonshine.io for s-off tried twice. Failed
-program (distiller) closed after saying "moonshining 1...2...3...to 10)
-now on boot it gets to "Htc
I booted into CMW and retored that backup i had before any rooting or s-off etc... but it still hangs :silly:
Should I try the hboot option to restore? (I thought CMW backup was like a complete nand backup. Which should be bullet proof right?)
Thanks for looking guys! I have no communication as of now I just want to make calls at least
This is my first android device and I always like getting to know my devices from the inside, the iphone BS was too much haha. I gues i dont really need s off or super cid if it means no phone. but why not if it works.
Did you have ICS or JB, when you have tried S-off?
Please remember, as long as you are S-on you must flash the boot.img with fastboot commands (also, if you are restoring a backup and you did a full wipe)! If you have a cwm backup, boot.img should be inside of your backup folder.
Did you wipe everything before your restore? Maybe fragments of moonshine still there.
Did you try TWRP recovery?
[HTC oneSV boot hang, FIXED] THANKS!!
LOL I had no idea the boot.img had to to be manually flashed, thank you very much it work s great now!
This time I cleared/wiped data AND cache. it still hanged and wont boot. Than I re tried using CWM again to restore (still hangs). than I flashed boot.img THAT DID THE TRICK after "fastboot reboot".
BTW major fail on my part; I was rooting and moonshining for JB it turns out I have ICS (i forgot to update) now that you mentioned it hehehe
I had 4.0.4 sense 4.1. I think that is why everything went to hell...
Alright Ill try moonshine after the update to JB 4.1.2 if that fails than Ill try the facepalm.
One last question; if i do update to JB 4.1.2 and achieve s-off could I use that CMW backup to always go back to ICS 4.0.4? (just incase I ever wanted to get SUPER CID and get JB 4.2.2) I wonder if super cid works with k2-PLC-cl.... Ill try it when I get find the funds a better phone to risk a brick
-Thank you sir!
Ok, lets bring a bit light into these darkness:
- Facepalm S-Off only works, as long as you did not achieve the JB update!
- You can restore a ics cwm backup, also when you are on JB and S-Off, but
- Restoring ics from a backup is not the same, as you where on ics before the update.
Thats because of the updated hboot (ics-> hboot 1.0; jb-> hboot 2.0). In hboot 2.0 the Supercid/Facepalm exploit is fixed. You can still get Supercid under hboot 2.0, but you must do moonshine S-Off before.
So, at all you must think about, what you want and whats the best way to get, before updating to jb.
If this was to difficult to understand, ask again and i will try my best to explain it for you to understand.
Ok
Hum they creators of these phones really enjoy making puzzles for us don't they...
Alright so my options are:
1.) [stay on ICS]
-get super cid
-facepalm for s-off
(can I still update to JB after this and still have super cid and s-off? But that would install hbot2 wouldnt it? so....)
I think I want method 2↓
2.) [update to JB]
-use moonshine to get s-off
-some how get super cid? (I dont really need super cid but it would be nice to know I have it just in case)
-profit
//edit//(ohh yes, once on JB hboot v2, if i have s off and on hboot2 could I go back to hboot1 along with ICS should i need to)
Any ways thank you again
1. Right, you can update and both will stay.
2. Right, after S-Off you should be able to change SuperCid. But it should be said, that its a very risky operation and phone can be bricked very easily if you are doing something wrong.
And for your edit: You can restore a ics backup, but without a RUU it is difficult to bring back hboot 1. Only a backup of it will solve this. Recoveries usually don't backup hboot.
SV ICS super cid
I know this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264322
says to do super cid on original stock, but could I just go ahead and HEX my cid with my ICS that is unlocked/rooted/custom-recovery?
Do I have to un-do all of that to change the CID? or is that just good technique? [im also on cricket ics 4.0.4 if it matters, k2_plc_cl]
Thank you very much! I wish to change my cid right now but ill wait and see what you say if it saves me from a brick
than I'm off to s-off for all the goodies that follow haha.
I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
alrighty than
haha wrong link in previous post I meant this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26516911#post26516911
WHEN HTCDEV UNLOCKS YOUR DEVICE YOU MUST START FROM SCRATCH!!!
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I was reading his link and somehow posted your link, Ill use your link actually now that I read it... I thought it wouldn't matter, better safe than sorry. Ill try it out and see how it goes.
Thanks for helping
Questions about hexing CID
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I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
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Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
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Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
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At this point i only can tell you about my guide and the picture inside. To be honest, i only noticed only one cid, together with imei. So maybe this helps you.
Edit:
Please, really be careful if your file/block is different than in my guide!
I'm on mobile and can't look at your code completely.
My guide for sure works for k2u & k2ul cause i did it myself at two different phones but i don't know, if cricket has changed more and i don't want your phone bricked.
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I really not sure, if changing CID will work. Maybe you'll try the S-Off step by Moonshine after update to JB, would be better than a bricked phone!
You must also think, what do i profit from SuperCID?
K2u & k2ul can be unbranded this way, maybe they also profit from earlier updates.
But you can't use k2u/l Software on US phones, different network, so this point is useless for you. And i don't think, cricket will release their updates earlier for phones with SuperCID.
Just my two cents, now its on you to make your decision...
What i also want to say, i had help the first time i did.
It was @jmz who helped me, maybe he reads that and know more about cricket cid.
I think ill give it a go
I actually tried to contact him and others, but since im so new I can't send PMs (they send but nothing is in my sent box. link it never happened) so I guess unless JMZ stumbles upon this thread thats it.
As for me I don't think it would brick my phone (like a real brick) if all else I could just boot into recovery and flash back my backup stuff right?
Or if i screw up would it not even allow recovery / shell? Although a brick would permit me to buy a better popular phone
If i try it all post more details on it for other cricket users.
This is modifying the bootloader. If you do something wrong, the phone wont boot. Not in recovery, not in OS, bricked.
PS. @Gain_Medium
If you write a xda username with an @ before, the one will be notified, the he is mentioned somewhere
Side note: I don't believe that there is any reason for super cid on a cricket us carrier, unless you plan on traveling to Europe, Asia, or anywhere out of the continent.
Yes, it's cool to have accomplished superCID. But there is really no benefit here in the US, if you plan on maybe using a different service plan provider, you'll still need to unlock your SIM, even if you do achieve superCID without bricking.
Good luck with your decision. I hope to read your updates on what you have chosen. And how everything goes for you.
THESE ARE ONLY MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. NOT TRYING TO SWAY YOU AWAY FROM ATTEMPTING ANYTHING.
but please research superCID for cricket mobile and see what you find.
Pros vs Cons
I have my at&t htc one x on 4.0.4, bootloader locked, hboot 1.14.0002 S-on
evita pvt ship. i bought from amazon used, how can i update from 4.0.4 to a higher firmware and if i try use software update it searches for a bit then i get error what can i do?
Do you want to stay stock or install custom ROMs? The two processes will be very different so I need to know which way you want to go before advising you.
Sent from my Evita
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Also, do you have adb/fastboot installed on your PC? If not you're going to need that, Google search "xda minimal adb and fastboot" and the first result should be a thread that details how to install it easily.
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If you want to update to the latest "official" firmware, you can download the RUU at the following webpage, and follow the directions where it says "Manual system update instructions":
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-x-att/news/
This will update you to Jellybean 4.1.1, which is the latest that has been released for the AT&T version.
Be aware this will wipe any date on the phone, so backup anything you want to keep.
EDIT: As timmaaa advised below, CID needs to be verified before running the above RUU. If SuperCID is present with s-on, running the RUU will brick the device.
Hang on, we need to check his SuperCID status before he runs a jb RUU, the phone is used. We don't want a brick on our hands.
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Hang on, we need to check his SuperCID status before he runs a jb RUU, the phone is used. We don't want a brick on our hands.
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Very true. I assumed that since the phone is still bootloader LOCKED, that its bone stock (I also missed the word "used" when I read the OP). But its possible the previous owner changed the CID, but either botched the BL unlocking or didn't get that far.
I've edited my previous post accordingly, to make sure the OP doesn't damage his phone.
Yeah, previous owner could have also spoofed the bootloader text to say locked instead of relocked.
OP, get adb/organised as per my first reply and then we can check out your situation before proceeding.
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htc one x
how do u get pass the sid lock to get the slock off
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how do u get pass the sid lock to get the slock off
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Huh? That makes absolutely no sense. If you want help please do the following:
1- Don't hijack this thread, we're already helping someone else here. Please repost your question in my q&a thread.
2- Tell me exactly what you want to achieve.
3- Tell me your bootloader details.
4- Tell me any other relevant information.
5- Do all this in clear and legible English, and be specific.
PS. There are no such things as a 'sid lock' or 'sloff', as I've said above please post in clear English using terms that actually exist.
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ok im going to try super cid do i need to root my phone 1st and i want stock unless custom is more better and stable.
Stock ROM is stable but so are custom ROMs, plus you get better features with custom ROMs. Before you do anything though you need to decide whether you want to use a stock ROM or a custom ROM. The two processes will vary greatly. Have you installed adb/fastboot like I suggested earlier?
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no i didnt get get adb or fastboot i dont know were to get it and ok i'll do custom rom.
ok im roothing and it says * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
DON'T TOUCH THE DEVICE OR UNPLUG WHILE ROOTING!
PUSH FILES
its been like this for 5mins now?
What method are you using?
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i was using a one click rooting software i deleted it i now have
onexrootattnew.zip but that doesnt want to root it either really and truly i jus wanted to update my software cuz my phone wifi range is seriously low to the point that i have to be right new to a router or 5ft away to catch signal and my bluetooth range basically is 1ft so i wanted to update to fix my problem
There's only one way you can get root. The first thing you need to do is stop getting information from other sites, they don't properly distinguish between firmware versions, and even phone models. Everything you need is here on XDA, it's the only comprehensive Android modification site available.
Click the Everything Evita link in my signature and bookmark that thread, everything you need is compiled in that thread. In that thread navigate to the root section, find the 2.20 root method. Follow the instructions in that thread and you'll have SuperCID. Then you can go to htcdev and unlock your bootloader. Once you have an unlocked bootloader you can install Superuser to root your current ROM, or you can install a custom ROM. If you need help installing a recovery or ROM just click the How-To Guide For Beginners link in my signature.
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thanks man i will try it out will get back to u by 2morrow.
my bootloader is unlocked so i can get any custom rom?
Technically, yes. But your phone still needs some updating before you can stay on a custom ROM. Your steps will be as follows:
1. Install TWRP recovery.
2. Install root via SuperSU.
3. Get s-off via Facepalm.
4. Run the 3.18 RUU (this returns your phone to stock but it's essential because this is the step that updates everything)
5. Install TWRP recovery again (official TWRP 2.6 for Sense 5 ROMs and aosp ROMs lower than 4.4, or modified TWRP 2.6.3.0 for 4.4 aosp ROMs).
6. Update firmware via 2.15 firmware package (this step is only necessary if you're planning on installing a Sense 5 ROM). You'll find it in the first post of this thread along with instructions.
7. Install whatever ROM you like.
8. Enjoy.
If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask.
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ok ill let u know when im done
Have a look at my How-To Guide For Beginners thread in my signature for detailed instructions on some of those processes.
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Background:
My wife migrated from the (US AT&T) One X to the One on day one. Her One X has been sitting in her bedside drawer for almost a year. (She wanted to keep it as a backup.) Her One recently suffered irreparable physical damage; need to get her up and running on the One X.
Before the One X's temporary retirement, we:
Gained SuperCID
Unlocked Bootloader
Flashed custom recovery
Flashed a (Android 4.1 based) AOKP nightly
Did not achieve S-OFF
When the One X came back out of retirement, it had some major stability issues. Coming from the Nexus world, and (admittedly) not doing thorough enough research, I thought I could quickly re-ROM her phone and have her up and running.
Long-story short, I've somehow seemed to corrupt the recovery partition and the boot partition. And I'm not sure where to go next...
I can access the bootloader and fastboot. In fact, the bootloader is immediately loaded on boot.
I cannot achieve S-OFF. Every method I've seen requires some combination of fastboot and adb commands. I can do the fastboot portion, but without a working Android partition, I cannot perform the adb commands.
Every attempt to flash a custom recover via fastboot fails:
FAILED (remote: 12 signature verify fail)
From the research I've done, it seems like I need S-OFF to flash a recovery and ROM, but I need a ROM to achieve S-OFF.
Is that the case? Is there anything else I can try?
Run the 2.20 RUU, it's the only option you have, it should fix your partitions. Do not run the 3.18 RUU while s-on though or you'll brick.
How did the phone end up with borked partitions?
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Run the 2.20 RUU, it's the only option you have, it should fix your partitions.
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Found and downloaded 2.20 RUU; was nervous as hell running this with S-ON. The process never errored out, and the application never hung, I never saw a progress bar on the HOX either. (RUU quoted ~10 minutes. I waited 40.) I hard-bounced the phone and tried again... Success!
Thanks for the recommendation!
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How did the phone end up with borked partitions?
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I pushed the stock T-Mobile ROM to the phone from the older recovery that was already on the HOX, then rebooted. It hung at boot; was never able to boot back into Android. I was still able to access the bootloader and fastboot, so I tried pushing TWRP to the HOX using the WinDroid Toolkit. After that, I wasn't able to access Android or TWRP, and the phone booted directly to the bootloader.
The biggest mistakes: cockiness and lack of research. (Statement of frustration: this S-ON/S-OFF nonsense is for the birds!)
I'd strongly suggest you get s-off now, and discontinue your use of toolkits in favour of manual fastboot commands.
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I'd strongly suggest you get s-off now, and discontinue your use of toolkits in favour of manual fastboot commands.
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Noted. Thanks...
The whole situation was frustrating because it was self-inflicted and I knew better than rush into trying to re-ROMing on hardware I wasn't familiar with.
I usually don't use toolkits; was just on a system that hadn't been prepped with adb yet. I re-learned a valuable lesson: take the time to set that up!
What's most frustrating is that I did try to use adb (after hosing the filesystem). I just kept running into issues with S-ON while trying to push boot.img's and recoverys. Coming from my Nexus world, I'm not accustomed to that.
Cool cool. It might be worth taking a quick look at my Evita FAQ and How-To Guide For Beginners threads in my signature. I'm not insinuating that you're a beginner, but they contain some vital information specific to this device which you might find useful.
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timmaaa said:
It might be worth taking a quick look at my Evita FAQ and How-To Guide For Beginners threads in my signature. I'm not insinuating that you're a beginner, but they contain some vital information specific to this device which you might find useful.
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Yeah... that -- among many, many others threads -- was one of the threads I checked out after killing it.
I was so convinced that S-ON was my problem that I spent most of my time trying to get S-OFF and repair my recovery via fastboot. Had I been able to let go of that notion, I might have gotten somewhere without having to ask for help.
I only-ever mess with the wife's hardware when there's a problem, so I'm not incredibly familiar with it. I'll definitely re-review your guide before I take on any other tasks!
Thanks again!