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[Q] S-off and Gold Card?

I'm moving from a Samsung Captivate to this phone very soon. I was just looking around to familiarize myself with different things about these two phones.
One thing about my device (Captivate) that I love is the Odin software that allows you to flash back to stock. Is there anything like that for the HTC Inspire 4G? Or any way to get back to stock no matter what state the phone is in (as long as it's not a hard brick)?
Also, what is a Gold Card? I've seen the term used everywhere with absolutely no explanation! And what is s-off'ing your phone do?
Thanks

There is no app like odin but its really hard to break a htc device. I have bricked a captivate with bad odin flash and have never bricked a htc phone.

shep211 said:
There is no app like odin but its really hard to break a htc device. I have bricked a captivate with bad odin flash and have never bricked a htc phone.
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But how, if I wanted to, would I get back to stock? Like if I flash a custom ROM (let's say CM7), how would I get back to stock?
And still, what's s-off and gold card?
I also haven't seen anything on tethering (Mobile AP... I use this all the time on my Captivate).

.Candy said:
But how, if I wanted to, would I get back to stock? Like if I flash a custom ROM (let's say CM7), how would I get back to stock?
And still, what's s-off and gold card?
I also haven't seen anything on tethering (Mobile AP... I use this all the time on my Captivate).
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Yes all you need to do is flash the ruu which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
Then simply turn S-ON use bubby's one click here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
S-OFF is turning the security off so you can flash custom roms.
The gold card enables you to root the phone and turn s-off.
hope this answers your questions.
edit: I also think its flashing with CWM is a tad better then flashing with odin because you backup and recover your rom exactly as it was. All you need a computer to do is put the rom.zip on your sd card then you flash the rom from the phone and not your computer.

mudknot2005 said:
Yes all you need to do is flash the ruu which is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952224
Then simply turn S-ON use bubby's one click here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
S-OFF is turning the security off so you can flash custom roms.
The gold card enables you to root the phone and turn s-off.
hope this answers your questions.
edit: I also think its flashing with CWM is a tad better then flashing with odin because you backup and recover your rom exactly as it was. All you need a computer to do is put the rom.zip on your sd card then you flash the rom from the phone and not your computer.
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Note that it is recommended to get S-On BEFORE running the RUU to get back to stock

.Candy said:
I'm moving from a Samsung Captivate to this phone very soon. I was just looking around to familiarize myself with different things about these two phones.
One thing about my device (Captivate) that I love is the Odin software that allows you to flash back to stock. Is there anything like that for the HTC Inspire 4G? Or any way to get back to stock no matter what state the phone is in (as long as it's not a hard brick)?
Also, what is a Gold Card? I've seen the term used everywhere with absolutely no explanation! And what is s-off'ing your phone do?
Thanks
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once you do some reading and root your first HTC phone you will find it is so much easier than your captivate and you will never what to go back

alwayslearning said:
once you do some reading and root your first HTC phone you will find it is so much easier than your captivate and you will never what to go back
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I'm still utterly confused as to where to start, and it's getting frustrating.
The Captivate forums at least had a sticky telling someone who just got their phone for the first time how to get started. There's nothing like that here. I'm afraid to do anything... I feel like I might brick it.
My main point: how would I flash my first ROM? What do I do? In what order?
All assuming that this is on a stock ROM, just as it is out of the box. I haven't changed anything (installed a few apps, but nothing that would affect rooting/flashing stuff).
Thanks :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcd1XQrTzE&hd=1
Follow carefully. Worked perfectly for me, I did it on day one when I got this...and threw my captivate out the window.

you're not the only one .. i am still reading up and getting familiar with it all as well .. to me the captivate (and galaxy tab) were easy to root and flash roms ... but the HTC is seeming a little intimidating at the moment till it finally clicks with me how it all works.

.Candy said:
I'm still utterly confused as to where to start, and it's getting frustrating.
The Captivate forums at least had a sticky telling someone who just got their phone for the first time how to get started. There's nothing like that here. I'm afraid to do anything... I feel like I might brick it.
My main point: how would I flash my first ROM? What do I do? In what order?
All assuming that this is on a stock ROM, just as it is out of the box. I haven't changed anything (installed a few apps, but nothing that would affect rooting/flashing stuff).
Thanks :\
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start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970824
you need to:
make gold card (watch Youtube video) or see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
ROOT your phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
s-off : it is done if you used the link in point two
ENG s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
flash ROM of your choice, this is the one I am using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207
flash kernel: in the above ROM it is included
flash radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597
enjoy your phone and buy one of these guys a cup of coffee for their hard work

I'll be honest with you. The only experience I had with android was flashing my wife's captivate with the leaked froyo with odin. I came from a blackberry bold to the inspire (bought it outright). So I can tell you I was pretty confused, about what to do and how to do it. The link the posted above is how I did mine for the most part. To be completely honest it looks a lot more confusing then it really is. I just followed the instructions on the video to a tee, and followed the dev's instructions for flashing their rom. Once you do it the first time its simple after that. Almost all the dev's read their threads and will answer any question you have, as long as you ask politely. I know this doesn't help you very much, but I just want to assure you that it is not as hard as it looks by any means.

[Q] Quasi-Bricked?

Hello! I'm a long-time lurk and this is my first post. Why? Because you folks at XDA are extremely knowledgeable and very helpful! I actually enjoy reading the forums and usually can find my answer using search. Call me a masochist, I guess. I just wish I had the chops to develop and not just be a continuous noobish sponge. I have successfully rooted my own Inspire with Bubby’s method and have flashed several radios and ROMs, no problem (knock on wood).
Anywho, I have searched and have seen similar issues to mine, but I have what I consider a more unique problem (which, if I’m wrong, I’m sure you fine folks will let me know). I attempted to root my brother’s Inspire over the weekend and it is currently showing a black screen with three vibrations and amber light (If I try to go to Hboot manually, I get five whole vibrations with a green light). I can, though, pull the battery for 5 minutes or so, then the phone will boot normally. Although I think it’s on the downgraded ROM, because it shows the funky AT&T splashscreen instead of HTC. What I did was attempt root with Bubby’s and got stuck at the boot screen when the phone was trying to flash the PD98IMG.zip (downgrade I believe) after making the goldcard. It would show that it was trying to read the zip, however I never would get the “volume up to upgrade” option. I tried this three times. When that failed, I tried rooting with the Ace Hack Kit and after creating the goldcard image, when the script tried to reboot the phone to install the downgrade, I got the black screen, amber light with the 3 vibrations. My problem is that I don’t have root, can’t get to recovery from the Hboot screen (shows red exclamation with triangle) and was unable to install Clockworks Mod thru ROM manager because I’m not rooted, so no SuperUser privileges.
What can I do at this point? Maybe off base, but I believe I have somehow corrupted the boot partition or the like, including screwing up Hboot. Is it possible to fix this if I am not able to reboot without pulling the battery? I have tried going thru Bubby’s and the Ace kit again, but always fail when the phone reboots.
Thanks for your help!

I am far from an expert, or even a novice, but to me it sounds like you have a corrupted download for the bubbys one click.... Have you checked the Md5 on the downloaded file?
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I could lie and say yes, but no I didn't check md5 the first go around (although I did the 2nd time I reinstalled, after it screwed up). I did have all antivirus programs uninstalled and firewall turned off.

It does sound like you got the downgrade rom without root. Go back to the hack kit. With the gold card in the phone, turn on usb debugging and connect to the pc in the charge only mode. Run menu number 3 in the hack kit.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

@OP:
Follow the files and instructions in this post to get back to stock so u can start fresh. I followed these to get back to stock only today evening, and it worked.
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TO RETURN TO STOCK:
Make sure you S-ON (if able) BEFORE you Unroot. The S-On tool needs root permissions to function.
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Turn the phone on, connect to computer, and perform step 1. Make sure USB debugging is enabled.
Step 1 (S-On):
Run Bubby323's S-On tool: S-On Tool
Step 2 (STOCK ROM in ZIP FORMAT):
Place this .zip file on the root of your SD card. Disable fast boot in settings > applications. Turn off your phone. Hold down the volume down button and the power button at the same time. The phone will reboot into hboot. It will load the ROM automatically. Follow the steps to flash the ROM.
http://www.multiupload.com/JELMZNSKDF
I did this like a couple hours back, and mine's back to stock.
Note: I consolidated the links here from various posts on this forum.

Diablo: Was posting the reply below, when I saw your message. Would you still recommend I follow your steps to unroot, return to stock and run hack again?
Update: Well, I went thru Bubby’s root process again and was able to get the phone rooted (had to pull battery and wait 4 minutes when it needed to reboot). And I have confirmed root was successful. I also used Bubby’s fix to Eng S-Off (couldn’t hurt, right?). The phone now has the latest Android Revolution with Sense and the radio has been flashed (including full wipe and EXT4 wipe). However, it STILL won’t reboot correctly. I can boot directly into Clockwork from ROM Manager, but if I try to reboot normally (hold down power button and select restart), I get the black screen, amber light and 3 vibrations. Again, pull battery and wait 4 minutes and either power button to boot normally or power and volume down to get to Hboot works fine and goes to Clockwork from Hboot fine also. I guess I can keep up with the batter pull only when I have to manually restart, but WTH? There has got to be a fix for the reboot issue. Any ideas?

fernandezhjr said:
It does sound like you got the downgrade rom without root. Go back to the hack kit. With the gold card in the phone, turn on usb debugging and connect to the pc in the charge only mode. Run menu number 3 in the hack kit.
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Thanks, but tried that earlier on and couldn't continue on with steps in hack kit.

ogarlen said:
...I also used Bubby's fix to Eng S-Off (couldn't hurt, right?)...
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Well, actually, wrong, it could hurt. I'm not saying that's the cause of your problems, but you really should've read up a little more before clicking on stuff so nonchalantly.
Eng s-Off means the engineering bootloader. If that process were to fail while in the midst of performing it on your phone, it would most likely hard-brick it.
Not to mention it's unnecessary. It was only included in that rooting method at the time for flashing radios, I believe, and since then a safer method for doing so has come into standard usage that doesn't require eng s-Off.
It's also one method of resolving the cwr blackscreen people were having, where you're actually in cwr, but the screen is black so you can't see what your doing. Not the same black screen your seeing, I don't think, because you're able to at least get into cwr.

ogarlen said:
Thanks, but tried that earlier on and couldn't continue on with steps in hack kit.
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The vibrations with the blinking led, I have seen a few posts with this. Sadly, I haven't seen anyone post a fix yet.
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Fernandezhjir: I understand your sentiment, however my situation does seem to be a little different than the other posts, so there may be hope yet.
Scott: You're absolutely right (as if you need me to confirm that) that it could hurt. My sarcasm didn't come over very well without a wink-smiley or the like. As I mentioned before, I have read the forums and the other posts on the difference between radio s-off and eng s-off and how dangerous it can be. Actually Bubby's program fairly adequately describes that taking that step can possibly brick your phone and when you should consider taking the risk. I was desperate and dumb and poking fun at myself in my post.
Any advice with my current situation? Everything on the phone is working fine unless I try to normal restart, then I get the amber light with 3 vibrations. Again, battery pull for 4+ minutes then resinsert and power works and I can get to Hboot and Clockwork okay.

ogarlen said:
Fernandezhjir: I understand your sentiment, however my situation does seem to be a little different than the other posts, so there may be hope yet.
Scott: You're absolutely right (as if you need me to confirm that) that it could hurt. My sarcasm didn't come over very well without a wink-smiley or the like. As I mentioned before, I have read the forums and the other posts on the difference between radio s-off and eng s-off and how dangerous it can be. Actually Bubby's program fairly adequately describes that taking that step can possibly brick your phone and when you should consider taking the risk. I was desperate and dumb and poking fun at myself in my post.
Any advice with my current situation? Everything on the phone is working fine unless I try to normal restart, then I get the amber light with 3 vibrations. Again, battery pull for 4+ minutes then resinsert and power works and I can get to Hboot and Clockwork okay.
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Heh. Now that you explain it, I can see the sarcasm. I'm usually good a picking up on it, but you know how these internet textual posts go....smilies are crucial...
As to your problem, there seem to be a few posts in recent days describing the led/vibrations type of symptom.
I don't know if they're interrelated or not. I don't have an answer, but I'm curious and will drop in if I manage to come across any pertinent information.

Thanks for the replies! I will continue to research and update this thread if I find a solution. I really believe that it has something to do with the startup processes or boot cache or some other $10 phrase related to what happens when the phone is attempting to startup normally. I appreciate all help.
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Just wanted to add a quick update for anyone searching that comes across this post: The phone in question is now working flawlessly (knock on wood). Restarting, power down and battery pulls work with no problems (no vibrations or flashes). I am honestly unsure what I did to cause this error or what the resolution was and can only speculate. Since my last post, I have made a Nandroid backup and flashed a couple ROMs (namely AR with Sense, then Virtuous Unity with full wipes in between), so I assume that somewhere in there the corrupted boot files (or whatever) were corrected. All's well that ends well...

Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.

Wolf_2 said:
Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.
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Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.

seems like you got yourself a good taste of rom flashing issues. that's a good thing. i know that you have everything working flawlessly now, BUT i would still HIGHLY recommend that you download the Super Wipe script from the Android revolution thread and use that to completely wipe and format your partitions, then do a FULL wipe through clockwork and then install whatever ROM you would like. but i cant stress enough, MAKE SURE that the Md5 sums match always. this can be the difference between a working rom and a bricked phone. also i would like to add that through my experience i usually find that the first time you root the inspire, the very first rom you install on it almost always has issues. that's how it is for me atleast. Ive rooted plenty of Inspire's and all of them have had some sort of issue on the first flash. and as always, follow the directions per rom to the T or else it might not work.
P.S. Some roms run better with matching Radio and RIL. flashing these is AWLAYS good practice to get your phone to tunr the best possible.

Wolf_2 said:
Here is just something to add to everyone's good advice that you received. Search for the RUU in the development section. It can fully restore your phone back to stock out of the box condition. In situations such as this it is worth having saved on your computer.
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Gene Poole said:
Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.
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Thats why I posted the full steps in the guide , to s-on and ruu back to stock. On a side note bubbies s-on tool does not always work.
On another side note, Genepoole would be interested in wrighting a script for the s-on/return t stock process to make it a little more automated? The steps right now are flashing back to stock then re rooting, then entering gfree s-off on then re running the ruu.

mudknot2005 said:
On another side note, Genepoole would be interested in wrighting a script for the s-on/return t stock process to make it a little more automated? The steps right now are flashing back to stock then re rooting, then entering gfree s-off on then re running the ruu.
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I have actually considered this. The current methods require a complete downgrade just like rooting when all you really need for gfree to work is the radio and kernel from the downgrade ROM.

Gene Poole said:
Not quite true. If you've rooted and have S-OFF, that will survive a complete RUU update. You have to S-ON your device before applying the RUU if you want true "out-of-the-box" restoration.
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You are correct. I should have re phrased that differently. I know that S-Off would survive the RUU procedure so I should have said "almost out of the box". The RUU is still a very handy thing to have.

Gene Poole said:
I have actually considered this. The current methods require a complete downgrade just like rooting when all you really need for gfree to work is the radio and kernel from the downgrade ROM.
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Please, sir.
Seriously, this would be, imo, a profound contribution to this phone.

[Q] root

Scared myself today, after reading all the posts today I took the plunge and did the s-off via htcdev, first thing I did was root with the HTC supertool, I then installed the ROM toolbox pro and ROM manager free, flashed the clockwork mod. And now I'm sure I've missed something, not sure what as I'm still a little giddy with the whole rooting thing. Question is what should I do now before I do anything to my other left arm and brick it, that would really upset me.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

Welcome to the wonderful world of root! Back up your phone now!
Reboot the phone and ensure that you can enter clockwork mod directly from boot. Confirm you actually have root on your rom by checking the version of su in the superuser application preferences.
Make a full system backup, so you have a working restore point in case you ever do anything to your phone. After that, it is safe to start playing around with root apps (overclock, wifi tethering) and roms! If anything ever does break, restore to your latest backup.

I would definitely make a NAND backup, possibly a few, just in case. Idk if it applies to you but clockworkmod recovery has given trouble to Evo users (may just be the device). But a few backups guarantee that you have a reliable one to restore if needed. Good luck and enjoy the FULL power of your phone

This is the bit that has stumped me, getting into clockwork mod from recovery. I've got su v 3.0.6, it updated this morning. When I restart the phone with Vol down button I get usual boot screen, where do I go from there, also the little green light in top right hand side below camera is blinking lots, don't remember it doing that before root
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

Bump!!!
Sorry but just had to, dare not do anything till I've got at least one backup
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

[EDIT] ok when I try to run cm from boot I end up with E: can't open/cache/recovery/command. So when I restart to bootloader I get "unlocked" "saga pvt ship s-on rl" but all the apps I have say I'm rooted. What have I missed here, someone please
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

jugg1es said:
[EDIT] ok when I try to run cm from boot I end up with E: can't open/cache/recovery/command. So when I restart to bootloader I get "unlocked" "saga pvt ship s-on rl" but all the apps I have say I'm rooted. What have I missed here, someone please
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Alright from the sounds of it, you're still "S-ON" meaning safety/security on. You "unlocked" the bootloader via htcdev but it is still s-on. Try running this command in terminal emulator(can be downloaded from market).
$su
#reboot recovery
I would hope that would boot to recovery. If not, then the recovery must not have flashed right :/
Btw, holding volume down+power brings you to hboot.... at the top it says s-on but, unlocked correct? But wont let you boot to recovery? Odd... try above mentioned, if a no-good, are you familiar with adb?
Sorry, that's all I got until furthermore informed...

MattMatt0240 said:
Alright from the sounds of it, you're still "S-ON" meaning safety/security on. You "unlocked" the bootloader via htcdev but it is still s-on. Try running this command in terminal emulator(can be downloaded from market).
$su
#reboot recovery
I would hope that would boot to recovery. If not, then the recovery must not have flashed right :/
Btw, holding volume down+power brings you to hboot.... at the top it says s-on but, unlocked correct? But wont let you boot to recovery? Odd... try above mentioned, if a no-good, are you familiar with adb?
Sorry, that's all I got until furthermore informed...
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Thanks for the help, your correct about the hboot. Ran terminal emulator after command #reboot recovery I was told it wasn't permitted. I havE abd but not really used it apart from the unlock process even then it was only running in the background. Saying that I can follow instruction and learn quickly and if I get a grasp of what's supposed to happen can sometimes work round it. Linux is funny, takes me back to my spectrum and BBC days. I'm new to Android but it is one of the reasons I ordered a raspberry pi.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s

Thanks for your help, finally found the solution to my problem herehttp://www.androidauthority.com/desire-s-root-s-off-hboot-2-00-0002-superoneclick-74470/
Thanks again for reading and replying
Sent from my computer whilst waiting for my first backup to complete :laugh::laugh::laugh:

jugg1es said:
Thanks for your help, finally found the solution to my problem herehttp://www.androidauthority.com/desire-s-root-s-off-hboot-2-00-0002-superoneclick-74470/
Thanks again for reading and replying
Sent from my computer whilst waiting for my first backup to complete :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Sweet, glad you figured it out. I've been on rooted phones for a few years but all of mine have been s-off (s-on is a good starting point but limited). Good luck, and just make sure you research before plunging into it lol, and you should be alright... and always have a good backup. As for recoveries, Aman RA is the way to go in my opinion, but its your choice of course.
Good luck, and welcome to the world of root my friend, enjoy

MattMatt0240 said:
Sweet, glad you figured it out. I've been on rooted phones for a few years but all of mine have been s-off (s-on is a good starting point but limited). Good luck, and just make sure you research before plunging into it lol, and you should be alright... and always have a good backup. As for recoveries, Aman RA is the way to go in my opinion, but its your choice of course.
Good luck, and welcome to the world of root my friend, enjoy
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What'sRAn only ever heard of cwm. But I learn quick, been looking at the reaper v3, looks like just what I'm after. Love the phone hate sense. But best spec phone for the contract I wanted.
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jugg1es said:
What'sRAn only ever heard of cwm. But I learn quick, been looking at the reaper v3, looks like just what I'm after. Love the phone hate sense. But best spec phone for the contract I wanted.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s
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Its an alternate recovery, may not be out for your phone, sorry. I agree, I hate sense too, completely.... like I said, just research and read directions, and you will more than likely avoid messing up your phone.

Found 4ext recovery. Only had one problem installing a Rom. Got stuck in a bootloop, upset a couple of mods on the development forum for asking in wrong section :thumbdown: finally got it sorted(didn't notice to clear dalvic cache) but, two days= two roms. Really like reaper it's really quick. Now need to master titanium backup and Rom toolbox (both pro) figured now I'd done I'd better invest in something decent.
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s (I voided the warranty so it's mine)

Last question. I have read lots of threads explaining how to downgrade the hboot from 2.00. But none really explain the reasons why it should be done, I get that I will be able to flash new Roms direct from the sd card but is this the only reason or are there more technical needs in doing this
Swyped from my newly rooted desire s (I voided the warranty so it's mine)

I've gone and made a paper weight

Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?

1st of all WRONG FORUM!!!!!! This is for Development, not questions. That's what general is for. Second, there's a couple threads in General about this. Just hit search.
Magical Mods, may we please have this moved. Thanks.
Sent from my MIUI V4

take out your sdcard and use an adapter to put a stock PG59IMG.zip on your sdcard (make sure its named PG59IMG.zip) and go back into the bootloader. It will confirm if you want to install the zip and in 10 mins you'll be back on stock. Oh and ^ plus one please next time post in general as this has nothing to do with developing.

wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."

blackknightavalon said:
Thread reported just for the use of "take a chill pill."
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Yes, the correct terminology is 'Take a chill pill, Bill.
Can't get chill without the Bill.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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Sorry I wasn't "helpful". I'll do better to assist you next time....or just ignore it

I can't help you and I expect you to get a satisfactory answer.

fsured said:
wow ya'll so testy today. I found the roms and info here in development forgive me for asking the question when something goes wrong on the programing side. One would think developers/programers would be helpful when the thread isn't how great the device is or what the bench marks are. Take a chill pill people.
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XMC, a Dev. He helped you, we where all noobs once. You should check out the "Welcome to XDA Video". Just follow the Rules. That's all, follow the rules.
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To supplement what Agent said the appropriate section for this would be the General section.
Additionally the development area is where devs post new roms, tools and hacks. Users can add observations to these threads to further development.
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fsured said:
Well I decided to jump the hoop and go for rooting my mt4g slide. Was doing great and unlocked it using the lovely All-In-One tool kit and couldn't get the phone to show S-off. I figured I needed to get this done before installing a rom's as I tried 2 different ones and neither would work. Tried a few different things and still wouldn't work to get S-off. Long story short, now I'm in a boot loop where the phone automatically goes into the boot loader. It will start up and show the mytouch splash screen before going into the loader. It will scan the sdcard for files and say there isn't a image etc and go back to the main boot loader screen. I can't do anything beyond that. I hit recovery, factory reset, and nothing. Tried putting roms and see if it would out of the blue read one.
It's my fault for taking the risk but adding a bit of insult to my injury is my back up phone, G1, won't even turn on now. So now I'm kind of phone less. Any suggestions on how to restore hboot?
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"tried a few different things" to get S-Off?
There are two ways of getting S-off. One is done with Revolution if your HBOOT is earlier than 1.45. The other is juopunutbear if your HBOOT is 1.45. Did you check your HBOOT version before "trying a few things"?
Did you read the instructions for the all-in-one toolkit? Or possibly just follow the steps in order in the program? It's specifically designed so you don't need s-off.
I'm assuming you must have flashed CWM recovery since you said you did a factory reset. Did you do Juopunutbear or revolution, or are you planning on leaving S-ON? If S-ON, Did you flash a kernel(boot.img) using the toolkit? If you can get into HBOOT and get into recovery, there's no reason you should need to revert to stock. However, if your plan is to continue doing steps before reading the instructions, you should probably revert to stock anyway before you really do brick your device.
This link will provide you everything you need to get your device running. Just follow the spteps from the beginning. If your bootloader is already unlocked from HTCDev, then start at the step directly after unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809

The toolkit worked well for me (even though it was my first attempt at anything), so I guess I'd echo that. It also matched with the step-by-step guides on stuff I found elsewhere in the forum. BUT there is a real difference in the method and order of things for the two hboots, hence KarriOn's questions.
However, having rooted and S-Offed, I then got a bit cocky and managed to end up in a not dissimilar position to you! Total panic, but I managed to get out by thinking through what I'd done, researching, and the cause and hence solution became clear. Took a night sleeping on it, and 2 hours.
what HBOOT?
Did you unlock the boot loader?
Did you get recovery on
Did you do a backup before going any further?
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I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.

fsured said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
Oh yeah, that is the tread I used and the tool. After getting unlocked from HTC I tried flashing a rom and it wouldn't work. Figured I needed to get s-off for roms also. That is where my error started.
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You don't need S-Off for ROMs to work. It sounds like you didn't flash a kernel after installing a ROM. The instructions on doing this are listed in the all-in one tool thread, the "flash ics roms with s-on" thread, and even on the all-in one tool interface itself.

fsured said:
I followed the all in one tool for everything. I've finally been able to get into cwm recovery. For awhile it wouldn't and I gave up for the night. Came back yesterday morning to tinker with it more and it worked. I've tried flashing the superSu.zip file in cwm and after it reboots it still reads s-on. But either way I can't get the phone to do anything other than boot into the bootloader screen. I'm going to check out the link about 2 posts up and tinker with it after work. Thanks for the replies!
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Flashing SuperUser won't get you to S-Off. Hasoon2000 has two different toolkits. One that will guide you through the rooting process and the other on how to gain S-Off using the Juopunutbear method. Having S-Off isn't necessary to root but it will take a few extra steps to flash a different ROM with S-ON. I was too much of a chicken to try the S-Off method since there is some risk involved but several have reported that it worked successfully for them.

[Q] [OneSV cricket k2_plc_cl] boot problems after moonshine attpemt 2

I have a one SV on cricket (US)
K2_PLC_CL (s-on) still
Ok so it was all stock from store. Tan I did this in order:
1.) Unlocked bootloader from HTC dev...
2.) (flashed) Installed CMW v6.0.2.8 via ADB
3.) MADE BACKUP with CWM
4.) Rooted by flashing a zip via CMW (worked great)
5.) tried moonshine.io for s-off tried twice. Failed
-program (distiller) closed after saying "moonshining 1...2...3...to 10)
-now on boot it gets to "Htc
I booted into CMW and retored that backup i had before any rooting or s-off etc... but it still hangs :silly:
Should I try the hboot option to restore? (I thought CMW backup was like a complete nand backup. Which should be bullet proof right?)
Thanks for looking guys! I have no communication as of now I just want to make calls at least
This is my first android device and I always like getting to know my devices from the inside, the iphone BS was too much haha. I gues i dont really need s off or super cid if it means no phone. but why not if it works.

Did you have ICS or JB, when you have tried S-off?
Please remember, as long as you are S-on you must flash the boot.img with fastboot commands (also, if you are restoring a backup and you did a full wipe)! If you have a cwm backup, boot.img should be inside of your backup folder.
Did you wipe everything before your restore? Maybe fragments of moonshine still there.
Did you try TWRP recovery?

[HTC oneSV boot hang, FIXED] THANKS!!
LOL I had no idea the boot.img had to to be manually flashed, thank you very much it work s great now!
This time I cleared/wiped data AND cache. it still hanged and wont boot. Than I re tried using CWM again to restore (still hangs). than I flashed boot.img THAT DID THE TRICK after "fastboot reboot".
BTW major fail on my part; I was rooting and moonshining for JB it turns out I have ICS (i forgot to update) now that you mentioned it hehehe
I had 4.0.4 sense 4.1. I think that is why everything went to hell...
Alright Ill try moonshine after the update to JB 4.1.2 if that fails than Ill try the facepalm.
One last question; if i do update to JB 4.1.2 and achieve s-off could I use that CMW backup to always go back to ICS 4.0.4? (just incase I ever wanted to get SUPER CID and get JB 4.2.2) I wonder if super cid works with k2-PLC-cl.... Ill try it when I get find the funds a better phone to risk a brick
-Thank you sir!

Ok, lets bring a bit light into these darkness:
- Facepalm S-Off only works, as long as you did not achieve the JB update!
- You can restore a ics cwm backup, also when you are on JB and S-Off, but
- Restoring ics from a backup is not the same, as you where on ics before the update.
Thats because of the updated hboot (ics-> hboot 1.0; jb-> hboot 2.0). In hboot 2.0 the Supercid/Facepalm exploit is fixed. You can still get Supercid under hboot 2.0, but you must do moonshine S-Off before.
So, at all you must think about, what you want and whats the best way to get, before updating to jb.
If this was to difficult to understand, ask again and i will try my best to explain it for you to understand.

Ok
Hum they creators of these phones really enjoy making puzzles for us don't they...
Alright so my options are:
1.) [stay on ICS]
-get super cid
-facepalm for s-off
(can I still update to JB after this and still have super cid and s-off? But that would install hbot2 wouldnt it? so....)
I think I want method 2↓
2.) [update to JB]
-use moonshine to get s-off
-some how get super cid? (I dont really need super cid but it would be nice to know I have it just in case)
-profit
//edit//(ohh yes, once on JB hboot v2, if i have s off and on hboot2 could I go back to hboot1 along with ICS should i need to)
Any ways thank you again

1. Right, you can update and both will stay.
2. Right, after S-Off you should be able to change SuperCid. But it should be said, that its a very risky operation and phone can be bricked very easily if you are doing something wrong.
And for your edit: You can restore a ics backup, but without a RUU it is difficult to bring back hboot 1. Only a backup of it will solve this. Recoveries usually don't backup hboot.

SV ICS super cid
I know this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264322
says to do super cid on original stock, but could I just go ahead and HEX my cid with my ICS that is unlocked/rooted/custom-recovery?
Do I have to un-do all of that to change the CID? or is that just good technique? [im also on cricket ics 4.0.4 if it matters, k2_plc_cl]
Thank you very much! I wish to change my cid right now but ill wait and see what you say if it saves me from a brick
than I'm off to s-off for all the goodies that follow haha.

I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.

alrighty than
haha wrong link in previous post I meant this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26516911#post26516911
WHEN HTCDEV UNLOCKS YOUR DEVICE YOU MUST START FROM SCRATCH!!!
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I was reading his link and somehow posted your link, Ill use your link actually now that I read it... I thought it wouldn't matter, better safe than sorry. Ill try it out and see how it goes.
Thanks for helping

Questions about hexing CID
old.splatterhand said:
I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
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Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done

Gain_Medium said:
Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
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At this point i only can tell you about my guide and the picture inside. To be honest, i only noticed only one cid, together with imei. So maybe this helps you.
Edit:
Please, really be careful if your file/block is different than in my guide!
I'm on mobile and can't look at your code completely.
My guide for sure works for k2u & k2ul cause i did it myself at two different phones but i don't know, if cricket has changed more and i don't want your phone bricked.
Edit2:
I really not sure, if changing CID will work. Maybe you'll try the S-Off step by Moonshine after update to JB, would be better than a bricked phone!
You must also think, what do i profit from SuperCID?
K2u & k2ul can be unbranded this way, maybe they also profit from earlier updates.
But you can't use k2u/l Software on US phones, different network, so this point is useless for you. And i don't think, cricket will release their updates earlier for phones with SuperCID.
Just my two cents, now its on you to make your decision...

What i also want to say, i had help the first time i did.
It was @jmz who helped me, maybe he reads that and know more about cricket cid.

I think ill give it a go
I actually tried to contact him and others, but since im so new I can't send PMs (they send but nothing is in my sent box. link it never happened) so I guess unless JMZ stumbles upon this thread thats it.
As for me I don't think it would brick my phone (like a real brick) if all else I could just boot into recovery and flash back my backup stuff right?
Or if i screw up would it not even allow recovery / shell? Although a brick would permit me to buy a better popular phone
If i try it all post more details on it for other cricket users.

This is modifying the bootloader. If you do something wrong, the phone wont boot. Not in recovery, not in OS, bricked.
PS. @Gain_Medium
If you write a xda username with an @ before, the one will be notified, the he is mentioned somewhere

Side note: I don't believe that there is any reason for super cid on a cricket us carrier, unless you plan on traveling to Europe, Asia, or anywhere out of the continent.
Yes, it's cool to have accomplished superCID. But there is really no benefit here in the US, if you plan on maybe using a different service plan provider, you'll still need to unlock your SIM, even if you do achieve superCID without bricking.
Good luck with your decision. I hope to read your updates on what you have chosen. And how everything goes for you.
THESE ARE ONLY MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. NOT TRYING TO SWAY YOU AWAY FROM ATTEMPTING ANYTHING.
but please research superCID for cricket mobile and see what you find.
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