Questions on root/flashing ROMs on HTC sensation - HTC Sensation

Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~

tbestie said:
Hi guys. I'm hoping my post hasn't broken any forum rules... but anyway, i am very new to android, and i'm still trying to read up on/learn about rooting a phone + flashing a ROM to it. I have a few questions that i'm hoping some experienced people could answer for me =]
1. Does my HTC sensation need to have a certain update before i can try archieve S-Off? (I'm on the Three network [UK] and my software number is 1.34.771.1)
2. How easy is it to brick a device? Im good with computers, and can follow instructions, but seeing as i have no past experience with android, i'm anxious to try flash new ROMs to my phone without insurance - as £500 for a new device would kill me... =P
3. When flashing a new custom ROM to my phone, what kind of 'wipe' do i need to perform? I've read a few articles, all of which say to perform different wipes.
4. I dont understand ' Radio Flashing' could someone kindly explain that to me please?
5. What exactly does CWM backup? =P
I hope i'm not wasting anyones time here, i have read through the articles for noobs, just need some clarification =]
Thanks for everyones time.
~Tbestie~
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1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.

Alankrut said:
1. As long as you are on Android 2.3.3 there shouldnt be a problem. 2.3.4 donesnt have a S=off just yet, i think
2. Bricking is actually very hard to do, if u follow instructions you should be good
3. all you need to wip is the system data, cache, and i reccomend wiping the battery status too
4. Radio flashing is chaning your radio number. this is actually a very easy process. Dont worry about this, all you do is put a zip on ur sd card, and the phone does the rest.
5. ClockWork Mod backs up quite literally everytrhing. Think "Macrium Reflect" for a PC. Or a "Ghost Backup" for a PC.
6. I just added this. don worry about wasting peoples time. We are here to help each other like a community. Let me know if u have any other questions.
I am following this thread, and when u reply i will answer you again. So feel free to ask any more questions.
If you feel like ur ready to root just go to the Development forum and see the 1st sticky thread. Or if u ask i will send u a few links on how to root.
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Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~

tbestie said:
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
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Clockwork Mod is just a recovery program to allow you to install new ROMs to your device, but most importantly, to let you backup and restore your current device configuration (like a sort of time machine). Most developers recommend Clockwork Mod (CWM) because it is so good at what it does. If anything fails, and you need to use your phone in a pinch, just revert to a CWM backup, and all's well!
So, to answer your question, unfortunately, no. One of the only ways to do that is with Titanium Backup, a program from the Android Market.
CWM is for reverting to previous incarnations of your phone's software and firmware.
Sorry I only answered one question, but it was the only one I knew how to in an effective manner.

Sorry, I can answer another!
tbestie said:
What exactly is a Radio number for?
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A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.

tbestie said:
Thank you very much =] Think i'll give rooting a go within the next week... just want to make my sensation that much faster and improve the battery life!
If you don't mind me asking;
What exactly is a Radio number for?
I am on android 2.3.3 , just my software number seemed different to other peoples phones =P
So if i use this 'Clockwork Mod' to backup everything, once the new ROM has installed, will everything just be the same (apart from the changes on the ROM obv) such as app placements on homescreens etc. Or will i have to put everything back?
Also, say android releases 2.3.5 , im assuming i would just flash an updated ROM over the top of an older 2.3.4 ROM when it is released?
I've read through the 1st sticky a few times already, just to familiarise myself with certain words/actions =]
Finally, what is hboot =]
Thanks again for your time!
~Tbestie~
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Radio Number/Version is the version of ur radio. This is signal related.
So when updates come out they typically update the
radio and make the signal strength better.
This is something to be careful with, when changing ROMs
make sure that the some you are about to change into
supports ur radio version.
When u use ClockWork Mod to backup it will backup your current settings. So if u backup it consists of your rom , apps, settings, etc. so if u restore that then everything would be like the old one. So Yes, u would have the set everything back on the homescreen. Its ok, u will get used to that.
When they release android 2.3.5 you might have to "wipe" your phone and do it again. Maybe, depending on your rom, you might be able to flash on top of 2.3.4
H-Boot is similar to the Bios of the computer. And you know how carefully you have to be to change that.
But the H-Boot version that the 1st sticky says allows changing of certain things, thus allowing you to have root.
Feel free to ask away, im here to help you

Andresehn said:
Sorry, I can answer another!
A radio is the way that your device communicates with your mobile networking. (wifi, 3G/4G, etc) Different Radio versions (numbers) work better for different people. Most developers will release a matched radio with their ROMs, which is usually what works best for them. Depending on your area, different radios may work better for you. Ultimately concerning radios, Your Mileage WILL vary. it's one of the other big trial and error pieces to flashing custom ROMs.
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lol. you posted both while i was writing up my response.
Its good though, because then the OP will get to read 2 times as much, which will make him even better at the terminology and the process

Lol. I'm just trying to be helpful so i can get to posting on the Dev. forums. There are plenty of easy questions there...

Appreciating the help guys =] Starting to understand a bit better!
So when i flash a new ROM, i must flash a new Radio? If i flash the recommended radio, how likely am i to get a good signal? And if im getting poor signal, i just have to keep trying new Radios? ( I Heard flashing radios is one of the ways you can brick your device)
Also with CWM - When the backup is made... do i have to keep it on the Sd card? Or can i move it to the computer so it takes up less space?
And if i understand correctly - CWM basically creates a backup just incase things go wrong you can always revert back?
... If i use titanium backup, what benefits does that bring over CWM? - Is it worth the money?
Thanks again
~Tbestie~

Also, how do i find my hboot version?

Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?

tbestie said:
Also, how do i find my hboot version?
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- Hold the power button, untill you get Shut Down, Airplane Mode or Restart.
- Click on Restart then Yes.
- Wait until all the lights on your device turn off.
- Hold the Vol. Down Button until a white screen shows.
There you'll find HBOOT-XXXXXX
This is your HBOOT version.
To get to your OS again:
- Make sure FASTBOOT is hightlighted.
- Press the <Power> button.
- Go to REBOOT by pressing Vol. Down.
- Press the <Power> button.
Hope it helps

tbestie said:
Ive started trying to get S-Off... just be reading ahead, it says that Custom ROMs come with root already? Does that mean i just need CWM with S-Off to flash a ROM? Or do i need to Root + Do the Super-Cid thing?
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You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more

Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?

claudenegm said:
You don't need Root to install a custom Root.
Just S-OFF, CWM and SuperCID I believe..
Just note down your old CID before writing the new SuperCID as you may need it later if you want to flash RUU and afraid of doing something wrong
Later on, if you want to flash RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) without the fear of flashing a wrong one, you can just write the old CID to your device again
Check this post to know more
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How do i find/note down my old cid?

tbestie said:
Sorry for the silly amount of posts... i cant find how to delete them!
Just so you know - I've archieved S-Off now , and installed CWM successfully.
Am i ready to flash a ROM?
-Also i have save files in games... such as FF7 - FPse , which a really dont want to lose... is their anyway i can copy them/save them somewhere ?
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To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck

tbestie said:
How do i find/note down my old cid?
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I posted all the instructions in the other link I posted.
You'll find CID: XXXXX, keep this code with you, in-case you need it later for installing RUU and confused about which one to use.

claudenegm said:
To flash a ROM, you mean Stock ROM (RUU) or Custom ROM?
If Custom Rom, please read my post #13 then do the SuperCID thing as you will need it for custom ROM..
About your saved games, the only way I know you can backup your saved data with is using Titanium Backup, which can be found in the Market.
Obviously, if you still don't know what you're doing, research more and then do whatever you want.
I take no responsibilities about anything that may happen to your phone using any of the methods above.
Good luck
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Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?

tbestie said:
Im going to try install Android Revolution 3.0.0 =]
Starting to understand what im doing. About to make a backup using CWM. =]
*UPDATE* - Performed backup with CWM - Everything seemed to go fine... however i noticed it said ''No sd-ext found, skipping backup of sd-ext''...
Does that mean my SD card isn't backed up?
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That's exactly what happened to me when I backed up.
I think you should ignore it, as it is trying to backup an extension in the SD-Card, as you can re-partition your SD-Card using CWM as I understand.
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
Good day to you all

claudenegm said:
I would be pleased if someone explained to me what exactly sd-ext is and what I'm missing
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Ignoring it is ok. sd-ext not being backed up is most likely an indicator that an EXT4 formatted portion of your SD card was not found. By default, your SD card is formatted as FAT32 because of its universal acceptance by all OSs. Some users report a performance boost/personal preference toward EXT4, YMMV.
tbestie said:
Does that mean my SD card isnt backed up?
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Most importantly, ClockworkMod does not back up your SD card. that is something you have to do manually on your computer, should you choose to do so. CWM is only responsible for backing up the internal storage of the phone that can be changed or wiped by ROMs (or mike1986's SuperWipe.) ROMs shouldn't change the contents of the SD card.

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How I learned to love the bomb..oops, I mean how I finally got CWM working :D

Okay, here goes the story-
1.Got an Inspire
2.Did the Hack Kit and then installed the Rooted Stock ROM (Discontinued), everything went okay but when trying to reboot into CWM, I got the HTC Screen for a few seconds then blackness, I later determined it was working I just couldn't see it for whatever reason.
3.Okay, I thought I'd try Bubby's One Click and see if that would fix it, it went great too, but CWM still no workie, getting frustated now.
4.I thought I'd try flashing a non-AT&T ROM, since so many have been having issue running one and getting the working, but black screened CWM, I chose CoreDroid's.
5.I put CoreDroid's ZIP on my SD Card, went into ROM Manager and installed it, making sure clear memory and backup current ROM were checked.
6.It rebooted into CWM, which of course I couldn't see, then about 10 minutes later it rebooted, and the beautiful CoreDroid Animation came up, and a few minutes after that I had CoreDroid up and running.
7.Well, I thought, CWM should work fine now, EHHHHH Sorry Johnny (which sounded weird, since my name is Mike ), wrong answer, I rebooted into CWM and there it was again, total blackness.
8.Okay, I noticed in CoreDroid that to be able to flash new Radio's, you had to have Eng S-OFF, so I ran the One Click Eng S-Off Tool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403 , making sure to check the box saying I already have S-Off.
9.It ran, and said it was successful, and I now had Eng S-Off, so I rebooted into Hboot to check, and at the top sure enough, it said Eng S-Off, I then hit PowerDown, which it did, but then....well, go to 10
10.It rebooted into...yep, CWM! Clear and beautiful, it looked wonderful! So booted back up, went into ROM Manager and told it to boot into CWM, it did so and it came up again, no problems! I did it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke, nope, all was well now in CWM Land!
So, how's that for a saga? Ahh, now I can kick back, it's Miller Time, or Dr.Pepper Time in my world, I don't drink
Use this at YOUR OWN RISK! I take no responsibility for bricked or ruined phones, I just posted this in hopes it might help out people having CWM issues. DO NOT send me hate mail because this didn't work for you
Good job bro!! I don't personally have the problem, but I've been following tons who have. Well done!
i did step 8 throu 10 and it works great thanks a mill!
No prob, I'm glad I could help you guys out!
congrads!!! i'm gonna try it out, i really wanna try some of these awesome roms available
Thanks Epic, let me know how it goes for you! I can't figure out what it did, other than maybe some files were corrupted or missing, and doing the Eng S-Off pushed and refreshed whatever was corruped or missing, either way I am glad to have it working again
Very nice discovery, I will in cooperate this into the next version of my program. Thanks a ton.
bubby323 said:
Very nice discovery, I will in cooperate this into the next version of my program. Thanks a ton.
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No Prob Bubby, I'm glad I could help and give something back! I am in full support of you by the way, I think it's pretty slimy how they ganged up on you like that, when all you did was try and make things easier for the community. If I can help out in any way, let me know!
californiarailroader said:
No Prob Bubby, I'm glad I could help and give something back! I am in full support of you by the way, I think it's pretty slimy how they ganged up on you like that, when all you did was try and make things easier for the community. If I can help out in any way, let me know!
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Will do.
I believe (if I'm not mistaken) that ENG S-OFF is the Engineering bootloader... it's not the best way to S-Off, because it puts the Engineer's Test HBOOT onto your phone, which causes some problems for other things. Also, to get back to complete stock, you'll now need to flash a stock HBOOT as well, if I remember correctly.
For that very reason, I would *NOT* incorporate this into your one-click, bubby... it worked for me perfectly the way it is, WITHOUT an Engineering HBOOT. I'd leave this as a possible solution for the ones that actually have the problem.
ClearD said:
I believe (if I'm not mistaken) that ENG S-OFF is the Engineering bootloader... it's not the best way to S-Off, because it puts the Engineer's Test HBOOT onto your phone, which causes some problems for other things. Also, to get back to complete stock, you'll now need to flash a stock HBOOT as well, if I remember correctly.
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I haven't had any issues yet, so hopefully I'm good I wouldn't have even ran it except for the fact that to flash other radios, you need to have it on there. I don't mind doing whatever I have to do to go back to Stock, which I don't plan on doing unless I have to send it in for warranty or insurance.
That said, I just posted it so that it might be of help to others, so I guess try it if you are having problems with CWM showing up properly, otherwise leave it alone
californiarailroader said:
I haven't had any issues yet, so hopefully I'm good I wouldn't have even ran it except for the fact that to flash other radios, you need to have it on there. I don't mind doing whatever I have to do to go back to Stock, which I don't plan on doing unless I have to send it in for warranty or insurance.
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No doubt. I hope I never have to, either... I just remember that with an engineer hboot on the desire, it was a LOT harder to get it back to stock, and had several other issues, and that's why they did away with it in favor of non-ENG HBOOT options. I like how it opens up the phone, though. This is indeed a great find that it works with ours!
EDIT: Ahh, I found it. It's in the G2 Wiki here.
"INSTALLING ENGINEERING HBOOT (DZ/G2/DHD) - OPTIONAL and UNNECESSARY!
Assuming you've backed up your phone with Clockwork's nandroid, you can install the engineering HBOOT (bootloader), which among other things allows you to use fastboot flash (or flashing-over-usb from your computer). This is unnecessary for most users but provides additional functionality for developers.
This is totally optional and dangerous - if the write to the phone partition fails the phone will be bricked. At the moment there is no cure for a phone that has been bricked by a failed hboot install."
That very last line is why Bubby should NOT include this in his one click... you think problems are bad now, wait till someone bricks a device and we can't unbrick it! D:
ClearD said:
No doubt. I hope I never have to, either... I just remember that with an engineer hboot on the desire, it was a LOT harder to get it back to stock, and had several other issues, and that's why they did away with it in favor of non-ENG HBOOT options. I like how it opens up the phone, though. This is indeed a great find that it works with ours!
EDIT: Ahh, I found it. It's in the G2 Wiki here.
"INSTALLING ENGINEERING HBOOT (DZ/G2/DHD) - OPTIONAL and UNNECESSARY!
Assuming you've backed up your phone with Clockwork's nandroid, you can install the engineering HBOOT (bootloader), which among other things allows you to use fastboot flash (or flashing-over-usb from your computer). This is unnecessary for most users but provides additional functionality for developers.
This is totally optional and dangerous - if the write to the phone partition fails the phone will be bricked. At the moment there is no cure for a phone that has been bricked by a failed hboot install."
That very last line is why Bubby should NOT include this in his one click... you think problems are bad now, wait till someone bricks a device and we can't unbrick it! D:
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Thanks for posting that. I was just going by what they said to do in the CoreDroid thread, and it worked for me, thankfully
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FAQ:
Again, it's recommended that you flash radio 26.04.02.17_M2 (Orange ES 1.75.75.2 / HTC WWE 1.72.405.3) or radio_26.06.03.24_M2 (TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1) or Radio 26.05.05.27_M3 - (Orange UK 1.84.61.2)
How do I flash a new radio?
In order to flash other radios you need to have ENG S-OFF. Once your device has that read this thread to learn how to flash a radio.img
How to get ENG S-OFF:
Download the attached "easy S-OFF.zip" at the botton of this FAQ.
Extract to a folder of your choice.
Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled. Connect charge only!)
Open my "Desire HD easy s-off.exe", click "S-OFF it"! Allow possible SuperUser request on your phone.
There could be force closes after the process, just reboot and everything will be fine.
Done. (in bootloader it should now show ENG S-OFF)"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965207
No doubt, still a great find. It's definitely a temp cwm fix, so use as necessary, just be careful and DO NOT unplug your phone while it's flashing!
ClearD said:
No doubt, still a great find. It's definitely a temp cwm fix, so use as necessary, just be careful and DO NOT unplug your phone while it's flashing!
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For me, it was a permanent CWM fix
Use this at YOUR OWN RISK! I take no responsibility for bricked or ruined phones, I just posted this in hopes it might help out people having CWM issues.
I just put that in my first post, hopefully it will do it's job
I could get into cwm, no black-screen for me though. Still couldnt do radios. Used this and bam new radio....Thanks for the info.
Lol Cali, remind me to "thank" you tomorrow I've been trying all night, but I'm at the 24 hr limit for "thanks". I appreciate the post update, and this really is a great find. I can't stress that enough lol. In the right hands, an engineering HBOOT is great.
btdt13 said:
I could get into cwm, no black-screen for me though. Still couldnt do radios. Used this and bam new radio....Thanks for the info.
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You are very welcome!
ClearD said:
Lol Cali, remind me to "thank" you tomorrow I've been trying all night, but I'm at the 24 hr limit for "thanks". I appreciate the post update, and this really is a great find. I can't stress that enough lol. In the right hands, an engineering HBOOT is great.
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No problemo, as the Terminator would say

[Q] Couple of problems with the Desire S

Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
sukrit7 said:
Hi everybody. I'm starting a new thread because there are quite a few issues on this phone and I wanted your help in understanding them.
I'm using an Orange HTC desire S which I bought from a local market in India. This was about six months back and it picked up my Vodafone sim easily so i presumed it had some kind of Sim unlocker.
PROBLEM 1
Fast forward to a few days back when I thought getting root access would be fun and would enable many more options. I booted into recovery mode and here is where the first problem kicks in.
When I boot using the volume + power button option, my phone tells me it's S-OFF and then proceeds(on its own) to a different menu. It shows two options only.
1. Device info
2. Clean S58 data
There's no way at all to return to the previous screen here on. It gets stuck here because option 1 gives me general data about the phone and option 2 runs what seems like the sim unlock problem, tells me there's no update and returns to the same menu. I'm always(2 attempts) left with only the battery pull option which invariably clears all the data on my phone and works like a hard reset.
I also tried this without the memory card and got stuck at the black screen with the red exclamation mark.
Can someone tell me what's wrong here and what I need to do to get root access.
PROBLEM 2
This is more of a confusion I face. Most of my friends using the Desire S have got the sense 3.0 update but my phone is still running on 2.1 and tells me it is up to date. On the forum, most people seem to have received the 2.3.5 and the 3.0 update. Why am I not getting it?
Is it because i'm not on the orange network or is it something else(like s off)?
What do i need to do to get the updates in India?
Thanks for reading.
Can someone tell me what's wrong and how I should proceed?
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Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
Thanks a lot for answering and helping me with my problem.
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Sukrit, most of your answers are within your questions. I've highlighted them in Red...
First of all, just because you purchased it in India (Somewhere like Gaffar Market, etc) doesn't mean it's from HTC India. HTC software update doesn't look at what sim card you're using to allot upgrades to your phone... It localises you depending on the software shipped with the phone.
I've understood this but does it also mean that unless i'm on the Orange network, I won't get the update?
Also, great guess on where I got the phone from
Secondly, your phone is an Orange branded device and unlocking stuff is usually more troublesome and dangerous on branded devices... As for the solution to PROBLEM 1 as posted by you, look inside your sd card for a file named PG88IMG.zip. If you find it, back it up on your pc and delete it from the sd card. See if that helps, as having an update zip on your memory card will force your bootloader to flash it whether you want it to do so or not... Let's call it the phone's "instinct" to flash the PG88IMG.zip if it finds it while in bootloader.
I understand. There are two files that i think are relevant.
1. HTC-ANDROID-GOLD_CARD. I haven't put this in as far as I remember. Size-0 bytes.
2. PG88DIAG.nbh. I'm presuming this is the file you were talking about? There is a slight difference in name,though.
I also suggest you read the Guides in the general section carefully, especially the warning about branded devices... But since you say you're s-off, half the battle is already won and i think you'll be okay to root.
As for the battery pull, it does not reset your phone data my friend... your data will all be safe and all it does is a soft reset, NOT a hard reset. You are more likely to fry your eMMC chip doing that... and that would be a MUCH bigger problem, as i'm kinda sure your phone doesn't even have a distant cousin called "warranty"
This is what is weird,Amit. If I pull the battery when the phone is at the device info and clear s58 data screen, it always hard resets. All software/contacts,basically anything on the phone memory disappears. Why does this happen?
If you think this behavior is normal then i'll remove the file in the memory card and try again.
Thanks a ton!
Let me know if you found an update zip on your sd card like i mentioned above, and we'll pick it up from there.
Cheers. Hope i can be of help.
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Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
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Can't I just use the Orange Rom on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 for the update?
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Why don't we start by removing the PG88DIAG file from the sd card (back it up on PC), and also the GOLD CARD file, which obviously was used by the nefarious Gaffar guys to s-off your phone...,
This will hopefully give you access to bootloader and fastboot so you can root and flash a custom recovery. Once you've done that, you can flash whatever ROM you like.
I'd recommend Endymion if you want the best possible sense 3.5 experience...
Let me know if removing those two files allows you to remain in bootloader and access recovery...
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
sukrit7 said:
Hey Amit. Removing the two files has worked fine. Thanku
What steps should i take now to get root access?
Or, can I just load the orange ROM available on the other thread without rooting?
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Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
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Congrats buddy!
Firstly, you cannot flash a custom ROM without a custom recovery...
To obtain root access, you can use Gingerbreak.apk
This didn't work. I left it on two times for more than 15 minutes.
I suggest you just flash a custom recovery (I personally recommend 4EXT Recovery) via fastboot or you can simply use 4EXT Recovery updater app (free) or 4EXT Recovery Control app (paid, check my signature for link), then take a nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then Flash a Custom ROM.
You don't have to stick to Orange ROMs... you can flash whatever ROM you want... I highly recommend Endymion, but the choice is ultimately yours to make...
I can do this without root too,right?
Glad you got this far... happy times ahead for you!!
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Before proceeding, i would like to know what hboot version you have... this may save us a lot of trouble later...
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android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
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android version- 2.3.3
sense - 2.1
SAGA pvt SHIP s-off RL
HBOOT- 0.98. 0002
Radio- 3805. 06. 02. 03_M
Thought i'd give you all the details
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Yup, everything seems to be fine. Go ahead and root your phone... flash 4EXT Recoery via 4EXT Recovery Updater app, and then after taking a backup, and doing a full wipe, flash whatever ROM you want to...
Read the instructions and guides carefully in the general and Development section prior to this, and remember...DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERY WHILE THE PHONE IS STILL ON! It's better to try other methods to reboot it, or even let it discharge over time and switch off by itself, rather that attempt to pull battery. Othert than this, i think you're ok to flash a new ROM, and enter the amazing world of custom ROMs...
Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
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Hey. I decided to be a little experimental and just couldn't wait either; installed revolutionary and i've got root access. Ha!
Thanks so much for your help.
Now tell me, what ROM should I use?
i've also installed clockwork.
Thanks a ton again!
Edit: I think you missed a part of my reply. Gingerbreak hadn't worked hence i opted for this.
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Congrats!
If you want a Sense 3 ROM, go for Hyperion
For Sense 3.5 (My personal favourite) go for Endymion
For crazy theming options, you can try MIUI from MIUI.us
If you like plain stock look.... Cyanogenmod.
I would however still recommend Endymion (Though i like v2.2 better than v3)
P.S. Just a friendly question... Gaffar me kitne ka pada ye phone? I bought my phone new...but my wife wants one now and i don't want to put in the money for a new phone from a mobile store...
i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
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i'll get endymion then, should follow your advise since you've helped so much. Do i need to make any changes to the hboot/radio?
and should i get both 3.1 and the add on package?
yaar, it'll be a lot cheaper now. when i bought it tab market price was around 22.5. I got it for 16.5 with box and accessories. At that time, there were only two shops that had the desire S and this was the only one that functioned properly.
i'm pretty sure you can get it for less than 13k now.
I'll try n get you the shop's name and number. i've bought both the desire and the desire s from him and they've worked well.
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You can get the v3.1 without the addon initially. See how it works for you... Then you can flash the addon package if you feel like Modding the ROM. I'm still on v2.2 because I didn't feel the need to upgrade.
Please do get me the number of your guy in gaffar as I'm planning to get a galaxy note as well as a desire s...
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
Hey. Looked everywhere for the number but I just can't find it. Awfully sorry,man.
I don't know if you've ever been to Gaffar before but just incase you haven't,do ensure that you buy from a proper shop and not people with cabinets full of phones. These guys will offer you cheaper prices but will also disappear in a couple of days.
There are only 5-6 big shops which sell import phones,most of them are decent and will offer you a week or two worth of hardware guarantee. Enough for you to atleast test the phone out.
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[Q] HELP sensation flashed ROM wont start

Hello, first I would like to apologize as I am clearly a noob and have very little idea of what I am talking about.
I'm sure my problem has been asked before and that if I had any idea what the problem was, I could find the exact solution I need here on the forums. Unfortunately I don't even know what to search for. If any one would like to complain go ahead but please..just help me.
So I decided to root my HTC Sensation, which I believe I did without any problem, I followed the guide on this site. Nothing went wrong and as far as I was aware everything was working fine.
I then decided to flash a new ROM onto the phone. I chose the Android Revolution HD as this looked to be the popular choice. I got it from here and I believed I had followed the instructions on how to install it properly.
However, after installing the ROM I came upon a problem, the phone would not start, it would just go to the HTC boot screen and stay there forever. At first I couldn't even get back to the hboot screen, but after inserting a new and better charged battery I was able to get there, but every time I do it attempts to update and says " CID incorrect! Update Fail! Press <POWER> to reboot." and I cant do anything but get stuck in this continuous loop.
If I take the SD card out I can access the HBOOT properly, however trying to do a recovery at this point doesn't seem to work.
I have no idea what to do and would appreciate any help anyone can give me. I would be happy to just have my phone back to the way it was originally.
Thanks
Might wanna try a RUU? not sure but hopefully it should do..
Sent from my HTC-Z710a using xda premium
First off your MAJOR issue is that you flashed a rom for the Desire HD section(As soon as I clicked on your link, it said Android Revolution 7.0.2... I was like wtf? There is no 7.0.2 on the sensation forum) ... I think that's the prob... for now! Flash the correct rom and stay in the right section!
Second, I don't see why you can't get into recovery. Remove your sd card, power on the phone by holding vol-down +power to get to bootloader, select recovery and flash the right rom. I would also recommend that you delete the P58IMG.zip off your sd card as well. I'm assuming you have it on there for the ICS firmware but flashed the incorrect rom. You are far from bricking it, but keep this up and it might turn into one!
Thanks, your post is certainly reasuring though I am still not sure how to continue. Also it is possible I gave the wrong link to the rom I used, though it definitely was the same name.
Anyway what Im thinking I have to do now is 1st delete p58img.zip file from my SDcard and put the right rom on there, could you link to one?
So by removing that file I should be able to access the SDcard again and flash the new rom?
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Thanks, your post is certainly reasuring though I am still not sure how to continue. Also it is possible I gave the wrong link to the rom I used, though it definitely was the same name.
Anyway what Im thinking I have to do now is 1st delete p58img.zip file from my SDcard and put the right rom on there, could you link to one?
So by removing that file I should be able to access the SDcard again and flash the new rom?
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Here's the right link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
This is an ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Rom
So you need:
1) SuperCID (so that you can flash any firmware)
Instructions
2) Flash the ICS firmware (otherwise you can't use the ICS roms)
http://goo.gl/RcbMy (and make SURE that there aren't any errors - errors such as not doing the SuperCID process correctly, therefore it can't flash - I say this because it seems like many users think the firmware is flashed and then find out their rom won't start, so don't be stupid and check whether or not an error has occurred just incase!)
3) Pick a rom
Revolution
Elegancia
Insert Coin
4) Flash the 4EXT recovery, I'm sure you already have clockwork mod on there but I think that's a bit buggier... so if I were you, I'd go for the 4EXT touch recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759
5) If you wish, you can also flash for example: tweaks and addons by awsm devs which make our phone much better if you wish!
6) you're good to go! It's that easy.
Yeah, all you have to do is remove that P58IMG.zip from your sd card and your bootloader won't force you to update or w/e. You'll be fine.
And don't forget to md5 check for roms you download !
Sent from my HTC-Z710a using xda premium
Thank you very much. It seems I hadn't performed the SuperCID part. Once I had done that I installed Elegancia and it is working perfectly.
Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me.

[GUIDE] Noobs guide to Rooting and ROM flashing

Hello everyone,
I'm am pretty sure there are many guides in rooting your htc phone as well as flashing a custom ROM. I am also pretty sure that there are guides out there that uses BIG words with not enough Lament words, so here is a simple noob friendly guide to basically make your life easier.
1. Download and install HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
2. Download revolutionary-0.4pre4.zip for windows from http://revolutionary.io
3. Extract it and run revolutionary.exe
4. Connect HTC Sensation to PC and select HTC Sync.
5. revolutionary.exe should detect your HTC Sensation phone and provide your with details about hboot and serial number.
6. select the hboot version and type the serial number into the box and hit enter.
7. It will now try to root phone. Wait and the phone will restart a few times.
8. When it's done, it'll ask to install clockworkmod recovery (cwm). Choose Y for yes or N to refuse. Install recovery based on what the ROM suggests. For ARHD, it suggested EXT4 touch recovery, so press N.
9. Press volume button up or down to navigate and select reboot phone by pressing power button.
10. Download EXT4 touch recovery at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759 (thanks to Madmaxx82)
11. Read the Read Me to learn how to install EXT4 Touch recovery.
12. Download firmware 3.32 for the related CID and MID. Be sure to check your phone's CID and MID
13. Download Super Wipe at http://xda.androidrevolution.nl/db_...ndroid_Revolution_HD_Super_Wipe_Sensation.zip
14. Download the ROM found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 (credit to Mike1986)
15. Copy the file PG58IMG.zip to the root of microSD. (root - meaning not in a folder)
16. Copy the super wipe and 6.6.3 ROM zip files to the root of microSD.
17. Power off your phone/ Remove battery from phone
18. Hold volume-down and power button simultaneously to get into bootloader mode.
19. When in Bootloader, it will automatically ask you to update your firmware, press 'yes.'
20. Once the update is complete, immediately take out your battery. (it may sound scary, but it's actually quite safe)
21. Take your MicroSD out and connect it to your pc to remove the PG58IMG.zip and insert it back once completed.
22. Get into boot loader once again (volume down + power button)
23. Now your bootloader screen should read:
-revolutionary-
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.1100
RADIO-11.22.3504.07M
24. Select 'recovery' and it will automatically lead you into 4EXT recovery (the one you installed earlier)
25. Install 'superwipe' script.
26. Select 'install from sd card' and look for the Custom ROM you have copied into the root of your Sd card.
27. During the installation you will be asked the following questions:
-Do you have a TMOUS sensation 4g?.
-Do you want to flash the sony bravia engine support?.
-Do you want to flash Stock or Custom Kernel?
-If you picked custom then you will be given a choice between Faux or Sebastian Kernel
-Do you want to flash HQ camera?
Once again this is all your choice, please read up on what each of them does.
28. When the ROM is fully flashed select back
29. Select reboot from 4ext recovery
30. Done, enjoy ICS with Beats Audio, the first boot should take around 5-10 mins
HAVE FUN ROOTING AND FLASHING CUSTOM ROM NOOBS :-D
Just remember, do this at your own risk, I will not take any responsibility for you Bricking your phone***
Good job!
Prinz069 said:
Good job!
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Thanks, just want other HTC sensation newcomers to enjoy their sensation just as much as i have.. Buying the sensation/xe is the first step.. Rooting and flashing ROM is the next step Cheers~ and happy rooting!
Some feedback to your thread
Hi, i wanted to give some feedback about this.
Regarding the content of your post, you might want to correct some things you've wrote that make the guide not so simply but confusing and inaccurate... sheer constructive criticism.
"Download firmware 3.30 for the related CID and MID.". If you are pretending to guide someone on how to flash any "newly" released ICS ROM you need to download and flash 3.32 firmware, not 3.30.
"This phone MID is modelid: PG5813000 and CID is cidnum: HTC__044. So if new kernel appear in the future, be sure to download from this category only.". You meant your specific phone, right?. Every guy out there has a different phone and more likely a different CID. There is a CID thread just in case you want to check out some of the available CIDs. Also, (and even more confusing) CID and model aren't related in any ways to kernel or firmware, what do you mean with "a new kernel appear in the future"? we have new kernels almost every 2 days from faux, sebastian, show-p and other developers, and what category are you talking about specifically?
In the third point you wrote It will now trying to root phone. Wait and the phone will restart a few times. Revolutionay tool is intended to S-OFF the device, not rooting. Then your guide isn't about how to root the phone as the thread title says ... i think this is the guide noobs are actually looking for.
If you are quoting or using content from others posts the correct thing to do is to give proper credit to the author i.e: Mike1986., authors of revolutionary tool, madmaxx among others.
I'm speaking for myself here and i want to ask you kindly to credit my work in the things you've pretty much copied literally from my thread [GUIDE][APR.16.12] How to flash ICS 3.32 firmware | flash/update ARHD 6.6.x ICS ROM, first post, steps 4 and 5.
I'm reffering to steps 18 to 37 in your guide which are 99% the exact same words i've wrote in my guide. I've spent some time and effort writing that guide, While i don't see why you wanna re-write my guide If you want to use my work it's ok, i don't mind, but please at least give proper credit and don't go around saying is your guide and your work when 50% of it's copy-pasted from my thread.
Also i've taken down the download link of 4EXT recovery touch flashing tool (steps 11 and 12 in your post) which i've modded and packed myself and it's also posted in my guide, if you want the dropbox download link i can give it to you, but again, proper credit.
You've open a thread in Android development section, and this is clearly not a development thread. Pleas ask a mod to move your thread to the correct section. Nevermind, thread has been moved already. Thanks to the mods.
Thanks
Couldn't agree more, it's not that we don't appreciate the effort but there are enough guides on this forum and all the info is there for grabs, you just have to find it. There's no need to create new guides because people don't use the search button.
Hello everyone.. Not that i wanted to copy any of your work and take credit for it, as i have never seen your guide.. I am sorry if i have offended you in any way.. I practically just wrote down what my friend told me over the phone, as he was explaining to me the proper way to root as well as put in a custom ROM on my sensation. I did not in any way meant or did not know that i was copying anybody's work. As far as i know, i only wrote this guide to help beginners, as i was once one. The only guide i have read was mike's guide on the front page of the ARHD thread, which at first i did not really understand. Another thing, it's not that i didnt want to give mike credit and take all the credit for my own, as you can see i am using's Mike's ARHD banner as well as i have given links to his thread. As for your guide, i will rephrase everything if it makes you feel better cheers mate~ The most important thing for me is to expand the sensation community.
Keupie said:
Couldn't agree more, it's not that we don't appreciate the effort but there are enough guides on this forum and all the info is there for grabs, you just have to find it. There's no need to create new guides because people don't use the search button.
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Brother, if there is enough guides on this forum, why do new beginners always ask the same questions? ..well let me tell you my experience, understand certain guides is a bit difficult as they contain words not familiar to beginners. Once again, i made this guide so i wouldnt have to refer to anyone else's guide if someone else needed my assistance/help. cheers mate~
Would like to once again apologize for my premature posting of this thread. I should have asked my friend what his sources were. Thanks again all for the heads up
Keupie said:
Couldn't agree more, it's not that we don't appreciate the effort but there are enough guides on this forum and all the info is there for grabs, you just have to find it. There's no need to create new guides because people don't use the search button.
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Well there is no absolute need, but then again he is free to do as he pleases.
If he (or ANYONE for that matter) is simply trying to help the noobs that come on here every day asking, "How i root plzzz help thx", then I am all for it.
But I don't think anyone should be denied the right to create these sorts of guides. Plus, the poorer written ones eventually die anyway, its the way a forum works.
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Would like to once again apologize for my premature posting of this thread. I should have asked my friend what his sources were. Thanks again all for the heads up
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No problem, but next time read up a bit more, and be more precise. Also, remember to give credit to the required people, as somebody stated earlier.
Leemur89 said:
Brother, if there is enough guides on this forum, why do new beginners always ask the same questions?
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Sometimes it's just sheer laziness. Other times they may not understand other guides or just need reassurance.
Either way, I appreciate you taking the time to create this.
Like i said, offcourse we appreciate the effort! What i'm trying to say is that people need to use the search function more. There are enough guides, If you don't understand something in the guide than ask it in the thread, no need to make a new thread about it.
Also, my experience is that If you use the search function enough, you will learn a lot about your phone and the ways to modify it. With that knowledge you can help other people. It's a vicious circle ;-)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
Simple way... just use hasoon2000's all in one toolkit from dev section
Im lost
OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
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Thanks!
Hey man thanks for the easy guide man! Helps heaps!
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OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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Bro, i understand what you're saying.. haha trust me.. My only advice to you is.. If i were you and my phone was of great importance. Don't root your device.. Even if the process is quite easy and most of the time people don't brick their devices, there is still a small percentage.. The best thing you could do is update to ICS via official HTC release, which if i am not mistaken, has already been done in many countries. Cheers mate.
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OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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Ok pal paste us a link to the video you followed. Now, does your phone still start up properly? If so then this should be easy. Power off the device fully. Remove the battery for around 20 seconds or so then reinsert. While holding down volume down also hold power until the device boots to bootloader. (Bootloader is equal to BIOS for a PC). It will give you some information. Post that Info up here. If it says s-off then using the volume buttons scroll down to recovery and push power. If you see a red triangle and/or exclamation mark then you have a stock recovery. If it says clockwork mod recovery then you are s-off with a custom recovery and all seemingly has went well
Also Cid stands for carrier identification and is used for carrier information and software I think. Mid is used to reference the country/ area you are in, for software as well as networks. They are both used together. Ruu stands for rom utility update and is a HTC program for updating HTC phone software and ext4 is a custom recovery that uses an exit4 partition on the sdcard I believe
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hortaja said:
OK guys, I have never rooted a phone but decided today to give it a try, why.. first cause I dont wish to wait till June for ICS and second becuase I saw this simple looking step-by step guide......so I thought simple.
First off I am PC savy but NOT at all cell phone hacking savy. All of this jargun you all use CID, MID, RUU, 4EXT means nothing to me and I have gotten lost.
I started with the instruction on this thread but then got the bright idea of seeing if there were some youtube step-by-steps how to's and there were. But the two videos I watched must have been older cause they had one major step differnt.
They say to type Y to Install recovery mod after S OFF, and I did. so now the next steps in the video dont work and I have veired off track what you all say to do.... I'm scared and lost.
I'm a realtor and my phone is my money maker, I can't brick it.
Someone help please.
Jerry
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oppps. XD guess i didnt answer your questions properly..sorry i misread.. The first thing we need to know is whether or not your phone can start up and does not just blank out when you turn it on.
Hey guys, thank you for the quick replies. Yes thank goodness it does power up.
ok here is the youtube video i followed, opps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvg0i8in96M
All I got was to turn the phone to s-off but not rooted.
So yes the phone functions, but not my voicemails. It now say
"This phone was associated with a different account. Do you want to delete the exsisting voicemails?"
So I would like to proceed with the upgrade to ICS, unless becuase I am SUCH a noob you all think I should just some how revert back to S-on and leave my phone alone?
I just read here all the time, you should root, its SOOO easy... and it not if you are a noob..
Thank you all for your time, and I love this site.
Jerry
954-214-6104
hortaja said:
Hey guys, thank you for the quick replies. Yes thank goodness it does power up.
ok here is the youtube video i followed, opps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvg0i8in96M
All I got was to turn the phone to s-off but not rooted.
So yes the phone functions, but not my voicemails. It now say
"This phone was associated with a different account. Do you want to delete the exsisting voicemails?"
So I would like to proceed with the upgrade to ICS, unless becuase I am SUCH a noob you all think I should just some how revert back to S-on and leave my phone alone?
I just read here all the time, you should root, its SOOO easy... and it not if you are a noob..
Thank you all for your time, and I love this site.
Jerry
954-214-6104
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i cant see it being an issue bud firstly, i am yet to own this device (but soon! roll on payday ^^) so i can only take you as far as rooting and custom recoverys, but for ics updates youd best ask others go to this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 and follow steps 2 through to 4 and then you will have a custom recovery, full root and supercid ^^ after that if you want to try an ice cream sandwich rom look
at the dev thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112&order=desc&page=2 always double check that you understand what your about to do before you do it, and all threads *should* have full instructions on how to flash them. remember that installing a custom rom will WIPE ALL YOUR DATA so remember to do a nandroid back up from your recovery good luck pal and enjoy
OK guys, well I did not chicken out. I followed the video once again, but this time used my original stock SD card and everything worked. I am rooted! so now to the next steps...
wish me luck.
Jerry

How do you install the new radio??newbie??

How does one go about installing the new radio i keep seeing mentioned around the forums in the trickdroid thread especially?
What does it do?
Does it improve battery life or signal?
Cheers and step by step please
Sure mate here you go:
1. Go to Q&A section
2. Read thread OTA Update to Android 4.0.4 for S4 is Out
Good luck
So I need to download that exe. Backup my current trickdroid set up. Then just run the exe let it upgrade everything back to stock but the radio will be upgraded. I then just boot into Cwm and reinstall trickdroid?
Cheers
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frdd said:
Sure mate here you go:
1. Go to Q&A section
2. Read thread OTA Update to Android 4.0.4 for S4 is Out
Good luck
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What he said replying to ur latest question
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Gavin01 said:
So I need to download that exe. Backup my current trickdroid set up. Then just run the exe let it upgrade everything back to stock but the radio will be upgraded. I then just boot into Cwm and reinstall trickdroid?
Cheers
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
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If you need to change your CID
Make a nandroid backup from cwm
Relock bootloader
Connect your phone to pc and start the ruu exe (follow the wizard)
Unlock bootloader (if you changed CID you have to get another unlock_code from htcdev)
Flash cwm
Restore nandroid backup
Reboot
Done!
If you get a bootloop after restoring the nandroid flash boot.img through fastboot.
Btw next time search aorund the forums, you could figure it out yourself
cheers all
i still dont really understand what to do but ill give it a go.
atm i have a rooted phone with cwm installed and trickdroid 7.
although people saying search. I saw this thread.......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781033
But its not actually that clear to beginners on what to do.
If its only wifi fixes im not sure if its worth the risk, i thought it may improve reception or battery life etc?
Haven't seen any official patch notes actually so unsure what it does. If you're going to do stuff before being sure what you're doing or at least understanding exactly how, make sure you backup important stuff like photos on your computer first. 99% of flashing screw-ups can be fixed with the assistance of the awesome nerds here but you'll be at the mercy of unknown unpaid strangers good will. Failure is always an option
drop box always saves me
well ive flashed it but im having trouble getting cwm back on it so i can then root it or once ive got cwm on it will my rom backup auto unroot it again?##
Answers to my own questions............
In the end i used htc one s all in one tool kit and kept trying to flash cwm without success. I tryed to install it via fastboot and that failed as well. In the end the only that worked was the interim cwm included in the tool kit once that was installed i then installed my backup rom which seems to have re rooted the phone and then used rom manager to flash cwm properly
Cheers.
Just be good if i knew exactly what this new update did lol
it was suppose to help wifi issues, i believe, would have to re-read on it. sure there are other improvements
thing is, it gives different results for each person, I am not sure it helped me at all, as my issues were, i believe, rom/kernel related
also, with the current setup you have and if you are on an hboot older than .13, like 06 or 09 you could have just flashed radio thru fastboot
fastboot flash radio radio.img
fastboot reboot
Just fyi for next time as radio is rom independent, but done wrong is quickest way to brick phone
hence why i wanted to be doubly sure and started my own thread and not brick my phone.
Thanks though.

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