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What's taking so long for HTC/Verizon to release 2.3.4 for Thunderbolt?

I don't get it, really so many phones came out with 2.3.4 already why is Thunderbolt is so behind?!

From what I've seen in the developer forums, the Dev's are really having to rework the leaked kernels pretty heavily to get them stable; normally striping out all the garbage HTC is trying to cram into it. So I'm thinking between HTC and verizon trying to cram so much crap in, they can't get it stable enough to release.
just my thought.

im thinking we will get 2.3.5 not 2.3.4. and it should come by the end of the month or in september.

Greywolf66 said:
From what I've seen in the developer forums, the Dev's are really having to rework the leaked kernels pretty heavily to get them stable; normally striping out all the garbage HTC is trying to cram into it. So I'm thinking between HTC and verizon trying to cram so much crap in, they can't get it stable enough to release.
just my thought.
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no offense but you would probably be wrong. most of us knew we wouldn't get it until august or so.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware they are even using a base derived from Tbolt ROMs for kernels.

loonatik78 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware they are even using a base derived from Tbolt ROMs for kernels.
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2.3.5 i think comes from the nexus s update to fix the signal issues. im sure at the least the tbolt will get OTA 2.3.4.

loonatik78 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware they are even using a base derived from Tbolt ROMs for kernels.
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Nope your probably right. Thought I read that they were using a leaked kernel from HTC, for some of the ROMs/kernels but probably my misunderstanding

Wouldn't hold my breath for the update tbh. With what we're cranking out, people should be content with what's available. If you guys got an OTA 2.3.4 update you'd want it customized anyway so....

Surprise its August where's that update I have been reading about.
#$%& my kid has the dinc 2,its been out since April,what's the big deal about GB.HTC should hire all the outstanding developer's here and get this [email protected]#$% over with what the hell strip the s*** and push it out after that support with updates, The t-bolt is one big science experiment that escaped it creator's.
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Greywolf66 said:
Nope your probably right. Thought I read that they were using a leaked kernel from HTC, for some of the ROMs/kernels but probably my misunderstanding
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They are using leaked RUUs for the base on Gingerbread Sense ROMs, but any custom GB kernels are frankensteined together from different sources I believe. They have to do that because even with an RUU leak we don't have the kernel source from HTC for Gingerbread.
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scottthreet32 said:
Surprise its August where's that update I have been reading about.
#$%& my kid has the dinc 2,its been out since April,what's the big deal about GB.HTC should hire all the outstanding developer's here and get this [email protected]#$% over with what the hell strip the s*** and push it out after that support with updates, The t-bolt is one big science experiment that escaped it creator's.
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If you are that upset, Verizon now offers the iPhone in white, which may suit your needs better.

The Apple thing not spoken here you kiss whoever with that filthy mouth might as well pop off with the Microsoft thing while your cussing like that.
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so annoying that we have to wait for so long, i bought that phone with a hope that new phone will be well supported it yet as usual no one really know what's going on and we are at least one major release away... i wonder if we ever going to be current at one point of time...

a1exus said:
so annoying that we have to wait for so long, i bought that phone with a hope that new phone will be well supported it yet as usual no one really know what's going on and we are at least one major release away... i wonder if we ever going to be current at one point of time...
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no phone is ever current... the moment it is released another OS/hardware set is going to be announced within a week and that hardware that is not yet on the shelf is already out dated.. it’s just the way things work. And it’s a good thing to. if we had the most current device it would take years for the next generation device to come out and we would slip behind the curve even faster. All that said... it is extremely ridiculous that we are not on the newest OS version given the amount of time this one has been on the shelf.

chucks1967 said:
no phone is ever current... the moment it is released another OS/hardware set is going to be announced within a week and that hardware that is not yet on the shelf is already out dated.. it’s just the way things work. And it’s a good thing to. if we had the most current device it would take years for the next generation device to come out and we would slip behind the curve even faster. All that said... it is extremely ridiculous that we are not on the newest OS version given the amount of time this one has been on the shelf.
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Nexus phones are pretty well updated.
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00negative said:
Nexus phones are pretty well updated.
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If you want to blame anything, blame HTC for putting sense on the phone, since they can't keep it updated quickly enough to follow google's software rollout.
Also, there seems to be one of these threads every week. Please go complain to verizon or HTC, not to XDA where most are already running gingerbread, it's far more useful.

I saw this asked on another forum, but couldn't the 4g radio cause any issue? Doesn't make sense since the developers here already have it working, but it seems like the only reasonable explaination..if there was one. Maybe the sensation, dinc 2 or evo3D are the new flagships and therefore thunderbolt is put farther down the ladder?

s0low1ng said:
I saw this asked on another forum, but couldn't the 4g radio cause any issue? Doesn't make sense since the developers here already have it working, but it seems like the only reasonable explaination..if there was one. Maybe the sensation, dinc 2 or evo3D are the new flagships and therefore thunderbolt is put farther down the ladder?
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Most likely the LTE Radio is/was the issue. However, no other LTE phone has GB either so people just complain to complain.

new cm7 is 2.3.5
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I've used froyo and gingerbread both. I could be missing something, but does gingerbread bring something to the table that is just so remarkable that we MUST have it? It doesn't seem any faster. I'm not seeing features that are much more than pretty fluff. Some of the features I STILL miss from my Blackberry aren't there in 2.3. It's nice, but I'm pretty much indifferent to it.

stock UCLB3 > any other ROM

With stock ROM I get:
• 2-3 day battery life
• All apps work
• Strongest signal
• 100% working wifi
• fastest overall, zero load time for almost everything
• and finally I don't need to install gapps or anything
With any other ROM I get:
• Possibly 1 day battery life
• Orgasm if I get any signal at all
• Wifi works completely on one in a billion roms, flaky on most
• Bluetooth rarely works
• No fix for any issues on ROMs that don't have major devs working on them
• Some apps don't work, and on a few ROMs some apps even kill the system and make it hot reboot
• Lag like it's a 3-year-old donut phone with the processor speed of a retarded potato with AIDS
• some need gapps, which is annoying to re-install every time you update, which also, you have to do every few days instead of once a year
So my conclusion is that screw custom ROMs. It might just be my device but that's how it plays out. I'll be much more careful to buy a phone that will have real support in the future, like the SGS II, Captivate, and SGS III do/will have.
Oh yeah and about my sig, that is the only ROM that I've gotten close to working 100%. And he's not a gtg, but he's got more support than big devs like that ever did, so if you're a sheep and need to use custom ROMs go with MoM.
/rant

I apologize, but I strongly detest the statement. I do respect every bit of what you have said, but I really do think that it is just a matter of personal use.
I have ran Aeon and other amazing custom ROMs and so far the best I have tried was Zeus 6. There are a few kinks, but hey-- it works!
Consequently, though, it's all a matter of personal preference. Some people prefer the debloated stock and customize it their own (i.e., build.prop tweaks, etc).
What I am getting at here is that there is no need to bash other custom ROMs. Although you did not point your finger on any specific one, but it really means a lot for people to like the developers' work. It's an Android Device... This is the main reason we got this: open source.

Wayzate...your really looking to get flamed...lol
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bigjoe2675 said:
Wayzate...your really looking to get flamed...lol
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As if I didn't know that already. :silly:
Crinkypops said:
I apologize, but I strongly detest the statement. I do respect every bit of what you have said, but I really do think that it is just a matter of personal use.
I have ran Aeon and other amazing custom ROMs and so far the best I have tried was Zeus 6. There are a few kinks, but hey-- it works!
Consequently, though, it's all a matter of personal preference. Some people prefer the debloated stock and customize it their own (i.e., build.prop tweaks, etc).
What I am getting at here is that there is no need to bash other custom ROMs. Although you did not point your finger on any specific one, but it really means a lot for people to like the developers' work. It's an Android Device... This is the main reason we got this: open source.
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I didn't really say anything bad about any specific ROM. Only specific ROM I mentioned is MoM and it was only to say something good.

wayzata said:
As if I didn't know that already. :silly:
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Seriously...if you need attention go else where.

Well I can put g appz in the /data/app partition
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wayzata said:
With stock ROM I get:
• 2-3 day battery life
• All apps work
• Strongest signal
• 100% working wifi
• fastest overall, zero load time for almost everything
• and finally I don't need to install gapps or anything
With any other ROM I get:
• Possibly 1 day battery life
• Orgasm if I get any signal at all
• Wifi works completely on one in a billion roms, flaky on most
• Bluetooth rarely works
• No fix for any issues on ROMs that don't have major devs working on them
• Some apps don't work, and on a few ROMs some apps even kill the system and make it hot reboot
• Lag like it's a 3-year-old donut phone with the processor speed of a retarded potato with AIDS
• some need gapps, which is annoying to re-install every time you update, which also, you have to do every few days instead of once a year
So my conclusion is that screw custom ROMs. It might just be my device but that's how it plays out. I'll be much more careful to buy a phone that will have real support in the future, like the SGS II, Captivate, and SGS III do/will have.
Oh yeah and about my sig, that is the only ROM that I've gotten close to working 100%. And he's not a gtg, but he's got more support than big devs like that ever did, so if you're a sheep and need to use custom ROMs go with MoM.
/rant
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I get the opposite results of u bro... my lag on stock is sooo bad that I was about to throw my phone on the ground as hard as I could. Ics with some tweaks was awesome, jellybean should be really good if it ever comes. Now on my tablet stock on that is pretty good, with aosp it would fly though.

Trolling like this is unproductive and is intended only to offend those who contribute to this device. My vote is that someone close this thread, and that wayzata start keeping his opinions of devs to himself.

Make sure you zip it up, this is going to be one of those threads, chief haha
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Plus, I agree with ryanscool, any time I have to use stock B3, everything is laggy. Personally, I think that Sammy just did such a crappy job on official GB and used halfass or dirty fixes to make it work. So when ppl try to mod, the crappiness comes out...
There are tons of work being done on the Infuse and I was here when ppl said development was dead; you gotta appreciate what's here man.
My advice Way, stay with stock and stop these random threads broskie
-Mac
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jscott30 said:
Trolling like this is unproductive and is intended only to offend those who contribute to this device. My vote is that someone close this thread, and that wayzata start keeping his opinions of devs to himself.
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Well Jscott, I don't think we are going to change anyone's stance on the matter, I mean, after all we are just "unpopular devs." What do we know. lol

He must be needing a galaxy note
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Cute how it's all butthurt devs taking offense to something I didn't even imply, let alone say directly.

wayzata said:
Cute how it's all butthurt devs taking offense to something I didn't even imply, let alone say directly.
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I honestly don't see any xda recognized developers replying to your posts. They most likely have better things to do. I'm no dev, and haven't claimed to be. I'm not mad or even remotely upset, but I do think that you're being a troll. It irritates me enough that you're one of the few people that I'll ever choose to ignore on this site - and I must say, for me, that takes a lot, so congratulations on that.
By the way, here's what you've said directly, and it implies plenty to justify people being irritated with your trolling.:
wayzata said:
Anyone still using this? I'm using it as a last option because no custom ROMs seem to be working as fully as this. ICS has a ton of bugs, and modified GB ROMs are made by unpopular devs with little bug support.
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jscott30 said:
I honestly don't see any xda recognized developers replying to your posts. They most likely have better things to do. I'm no dev, and haven't claimed to be. I'm not mad or even remotely upset, but I do think that you're being a troll. It irritates me enough that you're one of the few people that I'll ever choose to ignore on this site - and I must say, for me, that takes a lot, so congratulations on that.
By the way, here's what you've said directly, and it implies plenty to justify people being irritated with your trolling.:
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Nuff said
-Mac

Custom Roms are not for everyone so if you prefer a stock rom then go for it.
Thread closed
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Advice after personal experience

I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
And that is your personal expierence about cm10 8/8...I got a GPS lock in less then a minute...and I have 0 lag
Imho opinion this thread is pointless...it clearly states in ops what doesnt work-just go back to froyo...its obvious that's what you want
Btw...wasn't trying to be rude...just stating my opinion
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mg2195 said:
Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
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I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !

My one and a half cent:
IMHO For most people rooting and flashing is probably something they should not do. All they want is a functional phone that does phone things: text, make calls, check Facebook, etc. That is exactly what they get when their phone comes out of the box. That's great and awesome: don't worry, be happy.
There are others "hackers" or not, who like to tinker, figure out how things work, "try" and get them to work more efficiently, or "better". This includes those who are not as technical as the devs but are willing to help, test and report.
These people who are ready and willing to live with the fact that their expensive functional phone may end up as an expensive piece of plastic and metal...well root and flash away.
But to complain that your phone is worse after using someones hardwork and effort is pointless. Report problems yes...complain...not cool.
These boards are filled with complaints and cries for help from people who probably should have stuck with the phone they got from the store and just been happy. Rooting is not for everyone.
Peace
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
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Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287

Forget, Froy, GB, ICS, JB...
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qkster said:
Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287
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qkster that thread was Awesome! I had never read that before...hilarious
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Okay so maybe ICS and JB are not for you.. but what about GB ROMs like Emancipation and Aeon? Have you given them a try?
Stock is okay but it has too much room for improvement and that's where our brilliant devs come in. Believe in them and in their work. They are not here to turn phones into robots that will lead us to our doom
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Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:

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Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:
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Wat?!?
Bigjoe slowly walking away....now running....gone....

bilihor said:
I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !
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Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
All these people want, in essence, is a phone with the newest available software... that works. Thats why there is always someone working on some problem or "bug", trying and (99.9% of the time) succeeding. Sometimes we fail, but there is always someone else willing to pick up where we left off.
One reason I enjoy playing with firmware...; the challenge. I've always been one to take it apart and somehow make it better, regardless of what it is. A car, a radio, a computer... whatever.
On a side note, maybe reflashing your firmware will fix the issues your having with your Infuse now?

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.... thought I read somewhere that pornographic images are not allowed on xda... :silly:

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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IDK, maybe you got the initial, buggy, official GB update? I jumped ship and flashed Zeus long before that. And it ran smoother and I got better battery life with it than stock Froyo.
And it's pretty clearly written in each thread what is being seen by folks using the ROMs. For the CM10 build, It's pretty well known that GPS had issues until 8/8. It's posted clearly that several folks had issues with trebuchet lagging, so they loaded an alternate launcher and got better results. It's posted that wifi hotspot doesn't work with WPA or WPA2 with the bcrmhd driver (think that's the specific driver) and disabling security will allow it to work.
I know there are 200+ pages on some of these ROM threads, and many of the posts are 'me too' 'OMG this is so cool' or 'WTF? Read the OP'. But there are useful nuggets of information in there, especially the OP, and you really need to read them all to know what you might see with that ROM, or at least to know 'oh, I'm not the only one with that problem, and here's how they fixed it.'
In short, don't be ready to jump to a ROM that's only been out a short time until you know that either the bugs are fixed or you can live with the bugs that have been reported. Believe it or not, there IS a reason it takes time for official updates to roll out too, and it's not just to piss everyone off.

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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.... my current rig
may consider an upgrade if the holiday deals are just right....
...only 11 more payments to bigjoe and she'll be all mine.

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)

bilihor said:
fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)
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Yes...turbo pascal...I remember turbo pascal...or actually forgot turbo pascal. I couldn't code in that anymore to save my life
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Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
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Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
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PoXFreak said:
Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
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Bunch of old farts in here...soon someone is gonna bust out old punchcards or even an abacus
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Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
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I saw this in my great grandfather's office.
I'm not sure what it is.
I first PC was an Intel i7 quadcore 8gb RAM and 2tb drive.

Custom ROMS

I really do appreciate all the hard work DEVS put into building ROMS. But I really get frustrated with very buggy ROMS or ROMS not stable for daily use being released WITHOUT IT BEING KNOWN. I mean forgive me if I am wrong but how can someone build a stock ROM and make it run worse than stock? I'm not trying to criticize negatively, but am I alone on this? I think everything about a ROM should be posted on the OP. Not just some stuff but everything like "Known issues" "What doesnt work" and "bugs" should be the first thing we see instead having to look for it and being linked to other sites and what not. I am not trying to sound ungrateful but I really depend on ROMS and would start to DEV myself but find myself too busy providing for my family. I donate when I can and appreciate all the work but maybe there should be a category for only "Stable ROMS" and "Daily Drivers"

in my opinion except Lg devides(Because still I have a Lg), usually stock rom better than costum roms... Almost all costum roms have some problem

Agreed. Just run NoSympathys deodexed, zipaligned, debloated stock rom with imo's v0.1 leankernal...runs amazing..on my way to a 15 hr battery
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ekklesiaillusion said:
Agreed. Just run NoSympathys deodexed, zipaligned, debloated stock rom with imo's v0.1 leankernal...runs amazing..on my way to a 15 hr battery
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Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
Sent from my Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk 2

ekklesiaillusion said:
Agreed. Just run NoSympathys deodexed, zipaligned, debloated stock rom with imo's v0.1 leankernal...runs amazing..on my way to a 15 hr battery
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I dont know why I didnt think of that in the first place. Thanks for the tip.

TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
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I have been running synergy and have had issues ever since 1.3. BTW we're not incompetent just to clear that up.

TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
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agreed !:laugh::laugh:

TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
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Run synergy and have bugs in every version? No thanks. Tried it before nosympathy and couldnt switch calls, new version came out 2 days later and had no mms over 160 characters along with settings force close. Its a nice rom, but flashing a new version or fix every other day just doesnt make sense to me.
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addictedhacks said:
I dont know why I didnt think of that in the first place. Thanks for the tip.
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No problem. Ive ran every rom available out now and this set up is by far the best.
addictedhacks said:
I have been running synergy and have had issues ever since 1.3. BTW we're not incompetent just to clear that up.
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Yeah incompetant has nothing to do. Not wanting to flash fixes and new versions every other day
Sent from my SCH-I535

Or just run what you like and stop bad mouthing each others' choices and the devs.
/thread

So the point of this thread was??? Waste of space imo:banghead:
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

bobloblaw1 said:
Or just run what you like and stop bad mouthing each others' choices and the devs.
/thread
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Bad mouthing? Every post i said the rom is nice, just not for me. Explain how that is bad mouthing? I explained my experience with that rom. Am i only allowed to say good things about it? No its called feedback (good or bad). Get off your internet high horse.
Sent from my SCH-I535

I have been running Synergy for many versions now and never had any of the issues that people have reported, like GPS lock issues, etc.
The ROM is incredibly fast, I get great battery, and bug free for me!

Synergy 1.3 in my opinion works the best on my phone. No problems with battery,gps,kernels or even theming.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium

hopesrequiem said:
So the point of this thread was??? Waste of space imo:banghead:
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How have you gotten away with not bricking every phone you have ever touched without reading the O.P.?
I really do appreciate all the hard work DEVS put into building ROMS. But I really get frustrated with very buggy ROMS or ROMS not stable for daily use being released WITHOUT IT BEING KNOWN. I mean forgive me if I am wrong but how can someone build a stock ROM and make it run worse than stock? I'm not trying to criticize negatively, but am I alone on this? I think everything about a ROM should be posted on the OP. Not just some stuff but everything like "Known issues" "What doesnt work" and "bugs" should be the first thing we see instead having to look for it and being linked to other sites and what not. I am not trying to sound ungrateful but I really depend on ROMS and would start to DEV myself but find myself too busy providing for my family. I donate when I can and appreciate all the work but maybe there should be a category for only "Stable ROMS" and "Daily Drivers"

ekklesiaillusion said:
Bad mouthing? Every post i said the rom is nice, just not for me. Explain how that is bad mouthing? I explained my experience with that rom. Am i only allowed to say good things about it? No its called feedback (good or bad). Get off your internet high horse.
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So you try to prove you aren't bad-mouthing by making a negative comment about me??
Furthermore, feedback is specific and constructive. Bringing up issues from old builds that are no longer relevant helps no one and leads to a false impression of how the ROM is TODAY.
A sample of what you have said:
ekklesiaillusion said:
Run synergy and have bugs in every version? No thanks. Tried it before nosympathy and couldnt switch calls, new version came out 2 days later and had no mms over 160 characters along with settings force close. Its a nice rom, but flashing a new version or fix every other day just doesnt make sense to me.
Sent from my SCH-I535
Yeah incompetant has nothing to do. Not wanting to flash fixes and new versions every other day
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Of course, those issues don't exist anymore (or ever for some of them except for you apparently).
Some other wonderful gems of wisdom from this thread:
mesutziya said:
in my opinion except Lg devides(Because still I have a Lg), usually stock rom better than costum roms... Almost all costum roms have some problem
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Well that was helpful.
TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent
)
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This may or may not be true but again, not at all helpful for anyone.
Again, this is a development forum. Things are sometimes broken, half-finished, and often WIP. If you don't like what the devs release, then don't flash it. Your other option is to wait until a dev releases a milestone or stable release. It's really that simple.

Some of these devs are amazing and put out some truly awesome work, however these guys are doing it mostly as a hobby or maybe for donations...but I'll bet they all must work a fulltime job.
The factory roms have probably been dissected by over a dozen or more Sammy peeps before even getting to Red for their further adjustments. Therefore it seems reasonable that the stock roms would be more stable and less buggy. That's common sense!
The custom roms allow user to get rid of unneeded bloat as well as adding in hacks and such. Not to mention almost unlimited theming possibilities.
Every dev inserts a disclaimer in their thread for a reason...YOU INSTALL THEIR ROM AT YOUR OWN RISK! So live with it...or live with stock.

addictedhacks said:
How have you gotten away with not bricking every phone you have ever touched without reading the O.P.?
I really do appreciate all the hard work DEVS put into building ROMS. But I really get frustrated with very buggy ROMS or ROMS not stable for daily use being released WITHOUT IT BEING KNOWN. I mean forgive me if I am wrong but how can someone build a stock ROM and make it run worse than stock? I'm not trying to criticize negatively, but am I alone on this? I think everything about a ROM should be posted on the OP. Not just some stuff but everything like "Known issues" "What doesnt work" and "bugs" should be the first thing we see instead having to look for it and being linked to other sites and what not. I am not trying to sound ungrateful but I really depend on ROMS and would start to DEV myself but find myself too busy providing for my family. I donate when I can and appreciate all the work but maybe there should be a category for only "Stable ROMS" and "Daily Drivers"
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I've had multiple rooted phones. I know how to recover possible bricks. I don't ***** about small issues that ARE in fact known and stated. If you need your phone working 100%, then why run custom software that's experimental? I'm amazed YOU haven't bricked yet you negative Nancy.
PS if its not stated in the op, then read the ******* thread and stop being lazy as hell and expecting these guys to do everything for you.....:banghead:
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

bobloblaw1 said:
So you try to prove you aren't bad-mouthing by making a negative comment about me??
Furthermore, feedback is specific and constructive. Bringing up issues from old builds that are no longer relevant helps no one and leads to a false impression of how the ROM is TODAY.
A sample of what you have said:
Of course, those issues don't exist anymore (or ever for some of them except for you apparently).
Some other wonderful gems of wisdom from this thread:
Well that was helpful.
This may or may not be true but again, not at all helpful for anyone.
Again, this is a development forum. Things are sometimes broken, half-finished, and often WIP. If you don't like what the devs release, then don't flash it. Your other option is to wait until a dev releases a milestone or stable release. It's really that simple.
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You nailed it. Addict was the only person having issues with Synergy rom and whined and complained from the start that it was the roms fault. Funny that no one else had the issues that he was having. He obviously dorked something up/restored system data from an old build/installed a bad app/never checked md5s or something of that nature.
Then he goes and makes a thread about buggy roms when we all know exactly what he is referring to and we all know it was his own doing.
For everyone's information, Synergy is an awesome rom and has been since it was released. I have had zero issues outside of what I thought was a gps issue but that was my own mess up. I think a few had a different gps issue and that was it and that has since been solved.
Stop spreading crap info addict. You jacked your system up somehow and it had nothing to do with Synergy rom.
Edit: like others said if you want a "perfect" rom then stick with stock. I just don't understand what your complaint is about. It's not like stock doesn't work and someone is forcing you to flash roms every night.
Sent from my Synergy GS3

Seems the OP got his answer and to prevent further flaming let's just close this.
To the OP, Devs take time away from their family and providing for them to make ROMs out of sheer enjoyment.
They make them for themselves and share them.
It is impossible to find every bug before the ROM is released. Even Samsung can''t do that.
It also takes a lot of time to support a ROM, updating the thread everytime a real bug is found, not just someone who can't flash or mixed in a bad app or data.
You really should try to make your own ROM, release it and support it before making a crappy thread like this.
If you depend on your phone then you should definitely stick to stock and pray there are not bugs unreported there.
Thank you for your cooperation
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[INFO][DUMP] AT&T MB865 ICS Leak #2 (9.4.12)

9/10/12 - FOR THOSE ON THE FIRST AT&T ICS LEAK: You may notice that you have an OTA Update available to you - it will update you to the newest version of Moto's ICS (as found in leak #2)... If you install it, you will not have any way to fxz your way out of trouble, receive the official ota (though this is probably close enough to it), or flash back to GB just for fun...
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Well, I'm sure Moto has been frantically checking our forums this week (out-dated, but always true - i'd like to think), and from the looks of things around here, they probably thought that this new ICS ota package slipped by unnoticed... But, it hasn't.
I picked up this new leak off of cheesecake earlier this week:
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The first shot is from the leak pulled on Tuesday, Sept. 4, 2012 - then it looks like someone didn't like the package name, and the second pic shows the leak (identical except the name) that has been on the server since Wednesday, Sept. 5... this looks like it's very close to the official release now.
So, why didn't you know about this leak?
Well, looks like you are already on ICS and/or not checking cheesecake , and more importantly, we did not want to just go and post the leak files for safety reasons - and it's a good thing that we didn't - because this new leak is more locked down than the first one, courtesy of the friendly folks at Moto.
As it stands, there is currently no way for us to downgrade back to GB from the new leak - and that is a sign of what's to come with the official OTA. (But, your devs are still working on that too)
Do some reading around the other forums/sites for Moto devices - they had the exact same thing - they could downgrade from some of the earlier leaks but not the more finalized ones or the official ota.
Post or PM with questions/concerns.. but, please don't be offended if I do not send you the leak files (I hope you understand).
Thanks to the other devs for their input and advice. Also, I want to give a very big and special thanks to Apex_Strider, Fall of Enosis, mtnlion, and DX2Trip for their contributions and troubles - if not for them, we would be in for a big surprise when the official release comes and someone tries to fxz back to gb - please make sure to hit the "Thanks" button for them.
Now, without further ado, Fall has a generous gift for anyone who's interested in making a ROM out of the new leak (see below)...

Ok guys, this leak came out and Altered asked a couple of us to test it. Now I can say from using the leak for a few days that it is more stable than the last.
HOWEVER:
I got myself into a jam and somehow deleted my backup and sent myself in a soft brick, while making some mods.
I cannot express the heavily enough to you:
WE CURRENTLY CANNOT FXZ BACK FROM THIS LEAK. MY A2 IS CURRENTLY STUCK IN FB. AND WILL MOST LIKELY NOT BE RESTORED UNTIL WE GET A 4.0.4 FXZ
That being said, it runs great and a lot of the bugs were worked out from the last leak.
WHAT I KNOW WORKS:
Bootmenu works fine. SAFESTRAP HAS NOT BEEN TESTED. (I just somehow accidentally deleted my backup I made when I looped)
Jim's Root method works fine: Find it HERE. (Give proper thanks to Jim for it)
And since it is a Moto release, obviously WiFi, BT, and everything else works fine.
THINGS I NOTICED:
The Press and hold to pick a widget is gone all together.
I was one of the few who was actually OC'd to 1.2 on the previous leak. I was ALSO at 1.2 on this leak.
LASTLY:
This dump post is for creating ROMS from this dump ONLY. DO NOT mix and match files from either leak. They NEED to be treated as separate entities all together. That is how I got myself into my current softbrick. I flashed a mod that I thought would work, but the service.jars were just different enough to throw me into a loop. As long as you MAKE SURE you have a backup with Bootmenu you should be able to get out of a bootloop just fine.
Happy and careful building everyone:
Click here to download the system dump.
ENDING DISCLAIMER:
Obviously I am not responsible for what you do to your phone. Or if you brick it. We all know the risks with flashing. Safe flashing everyone! KEEP A BACKUP!

alteredlikeness said:
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So, why didn't you know about this leak?
Well, looks like you are not checking cheesecake , and more importantly, we did not want to just go and post the leak files for safety reasons - and it's a good thing that we didn't - because this new leak is more locked down than the first one, courtesy of the friendly folks at Moto.
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Apex_Strider said:
Yeah, tell me about it...
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fall of enosis and I had just about the same thing occur.Everything he said is spot on.If you try it out, be warned.

THANK YOU MAN! It was fun testing and by all means, ask me in the future cuz I'm always 100% down for the cause! Saddly since I made a boo-boo user error while fiddling with backups, I lost recovery and freaked before asking for help I went ahead and figured I test out the FXZ as well since theres nothing else I can do. (wouldnt boot past moto logo and errored out in AP mode saying no recovery) The FXZ DID leave me with a brick but no worries as I'll get a replacement soon within the week or so. Again, was fun testing and appreciate all your guys's hard work being done around here lately. Keep up the loyalty to our A2's...Ya'll rock! :good:

I bet Moto will supply a full ICS FXZ on official OTA, since we can't downgrade? Hopefully lol
Sent from my locked MB865 on Ice Cream Sandwich.

DemosZevasa said:
I bet Moto will supply a full ICS FXZ on official OTA, since we can't downgrade? Hopefully lol
Sent from my locked MB865 on Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Do you know Moto? Allow me to introduce the two of you:
Consumer, meet Satan.
There, now that the 'formalities' are out of the way, understand both of your roles in this relationship. You are the "bottom", and Motorola is the "top" -you're always going to be the 'taker', so lube up... makes the forceable entry easier on the linings of your, well, never mind.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-Motorola Ballistic Missile

Apex_Strider said:
Do you know Moto? Allow me to introduce the two of you:
Consumer, meet Satan.
There, now that the 'formalities' are out of the way, understand both of your roles in this relationship. You are the "bottom", and Motorola is the "top" -you're always going to be the 'taker', so lube up... makes the forceable entry easier on the linings of your, well, never mind.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-Motorola Ballistic Missile
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Lol I know them. Just being extremely optimistic.
Sent from my locked MB865 on Ice Cream Sandwich.

Question here regarding this new leak. Are there any visual changes from the last leak or is everything pretty much the same?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using xda premium

No visual changes from what I saw man. Looks the same. Just less buggy and more stable overall.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

To note some other changes in this new leak: aside from the new bootloader "security" features and recovery, the system folder is quite a bit bigger than the first leak. (Fyi.. the system dump is mostly harmless if someone were to build a rom from it - should work fine on any 4.0.4 build.. The dangerous things are the bootloader and recovery)
Also, we are still looking into any possible options to restore those who have not hard bricked - either by going forward or back.. if anyone wants to seriously look into this and/or contribute some useful ideas, please feel free to pm me.
To the four noble gentlemen above: a heartfelt thanks and my deepest regrets for your efforts and virtual losses.. I wish you the best. And I kinda wish I never found that blasted leak... :/
Sent from my phone's mind

alteredlikeness said:
To the four noble gentlemen above: a heartfelt thanks and my deepest regrets for your efforts and virtual losses.. I wish you the best. And I kinda wish I never found that blasted leak... :/
Sent from my phone's mind
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I have faith in you guys, that y'all will find a way around these soft bricked circumstances. If not, luckily we all have our warranties and/or insurances/backup devices, so we're not dead in the water.
For all others, if you happen to find a new leak on Cheesecake or otherwise, download and send to the devs here: DO NOT install the new leak(s) without consulting in full with the dev team, unless you'd like your phone to not boot.
You've been given warning, please heed accordingly...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-Motorola Ballistic Missile

Altered, I'm far from a noob. I knew the risks so please dont blame yourself.
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And I have more than one phone available.
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Was the kernel updated?
Sent from my MB865 using xda premium

alteredlikeness said:
To note some other changes in this new leak: aside from the new bootloader "security" features and recovery, the system folder is quite a bit bigger than the first leak. (Fyi.. the system dump is mostly harmless if someone were to build a rom from it - should work fine on any 4.0.4 build.. The dangerous things are the bootloader and recovery)
Also, we are still looking into any possible options to restore those who have not hard bricked - either by going forward or back.. if anyone wants to seriously look into this and/or contribute some useful ideas, please feel free to pm me.
To the four noble gentlemen above: a heartfelt thanks and my deepest regrets for your efforts and virtual losses.. I wish you the best. And I kinda wish I never found that blasted leak... :/
Sent from my phone's mind
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I just wanted to say thanks to Alterd for finding this new leak and sharing all the info about it. Thank you to the testers as well. It sucks that you guys bricked your phones because of it but hopefully you'll be able to get your replacements soon. This new leak was handled a hell of a lot better than the last. Thanks again guys.
Sent from my MB865 using xda premium

Some links for research for this current issue and the bootloader in general (though not specifically for the A2, they have some good info):
http://and-developers.com/
http://wiki.opticaldelusion.org/wiki/Motoactv/CDT
http://www.droid-developers.org/wiki/CDT
What I found was that the only major change between the first leak and this one is the cdt partition (all the other major ota partition file's md5 sums match those from the first leak except the cdt.bin) - and that's a major player in the bootloader - and that was the first thing to fail in flashing the fxz... and why the subsequent flash processes failed due to validation errors.. and probably why fastboot is now botched with an invalid CG error...
Anyway, just food for thought, digestion, and discussion...

Altered.
Mate.
Don't feel bad. We all knew the risks. We always do. It led me into somewhat of a phyrric victory as I am now on a wonderfully unlocked Samsung GS2 skyrocket rocking CM9.
Please. Don't feel bad. You make houses with bricks my good man.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

Fall of Enosis said:
Altered.
Mate.
Don't feel bad. We all knew the risks. We always do. It led me into somewhat of a phyrric victory as I am now on a wonderfully unlocked Samsung GS2 skyrocket rocking CM9.
Please. Don't feel bad. You make houses with bricks my good man.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
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Lol... Thanks again guys for your kind manner and such, but I'm not beating myself up for it or nothing.. but I was chewing the skin off of my fingers for a couple of days there.
And, I did learn a lot from all of this - which is always good. Plus, that new 2.3.6 fxz for the folks on leak #1 seems to work well... maybe worth sharing soon, but definitely not for anyone getting the official ota...
Oh, and on another note, I stumbled across this today while browsing the portal news (I had no idea he was going to write this): http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-notification-toggles-to-your-droid-razr-rom/ - even though he ironically recalls the first leak... "Everything's coming up Milhouse!"

Nice work guys. For those of us on the previous leak what will the steps to upgrade to this leak or the final release be? I have no desire to ever return to gb so flashing back is of no concern to me unless it's the only way to flash forward. I'm guessing someone could make a backup of their Rom and just use the new recovery tool to upgrade to the leak or the official release? Thanks for the updates guys.
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My guess would be that youd have to go back to GB before applying any of the newer leaks as we did for the first one. Just not necessary to go back to 2.3.5. These tests were fun but going from my A2 with perfect/amazing wifi signal to my X2 with horrible/sh!tty wifi signal...I'm a bit mad at myself for not waiting and or asking for help. This will be my fourth A2, two being bricks in the last month. Wish me luck when I talk to AT&T...not sure if they'll send me a replacement due to my mother suspending mine n my girlfriends line. But since shes still paying for it monthly youd think they'd still send me another one since I still have insurance on it right? lol, sorry, not meaning to bring this off topic but I'm just tweakin a lil bit n don't know what to expect. Again I'll say it though, thank you for all the hard and dedicated work here man!!!
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