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How can we overclock the CPU?

The atrix I has been able to get overclocked safely to 1.4 Ghz, I just bought setcpu from the android market and I am rooted. On the interface it only lets me set 1000mhz Max and 300mhz min. I would like to set it to 1.4 for experimental purposes and 1.2 set for boot. Thanks.
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You're not going to be able to OC until we have a custom ROM. Wish it was just as easy as you stated

Custom rom and kernel. And suprising this forum has been dead. I wish I knew how to port and cook roms.
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It'll get there. When we have ICS, overclocking and underclocking will be great. With both cores being used fully, we could spend a lot more time underclocked which would lend itself for killer battery life.

We can't OC/UV, make Custom Kernel or Cook Custom Rom's until we get the bootloader unlocked on this device. Until then we at least have root which makes freezing blootware etc doable but in the current situation that is about all the good you are going to get for now until there is an actual bootloader unlock. If Motorola is smart they will unlock the bootloader by default with ICS release but that remains to be seen.

Antutu bench. 5049. This score will skyrocket once ics and o'c with undervolt!
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Too bad that image is too small and distorted to read anything... O.O

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Too bad that image is too small and distorted to read anything... O.O
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Ditto would love be be able to see the benchmarks

Naturally this just shows as reference. Phone does perform well though. A lot better than the Infuse I had-it got 3847 for a high score overclocked to 1.6, ROM and kernel so.
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Antutu bench. 5049. This score will skyrocket once ics and o'c with undervolt!
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Completely agreed. Can't wait.

malickie said:
We can't OC/UV, make Custom Kernel or Cook Custom Rom's until we get the bootloader unlocked on this device. Until then we at least have root which makes freezing blootware etc doable but in the current situation that is about all the good you are going to get for now until there is an actual bootloader unlock. If Motorola is smart they will unlock the bootloader by default with ICS release but that remains to be seen.
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you don't need the bootloader unlocked for custom roms...
wish people would stop saying this.
many devices have custom roms with locked bootloaders, you need a hijacked boot file. i started the project in the development section, but, no one seemed to want to get involved. doomlord is even willing to finish it for the atrix 2 guys once a factory image is available. but, no other devs believe this is possible, when it totally is.
so, atrix 2 users will have to wait until someone could magically crack the bootloader (which will take forever plus 2-3 more months) to have anything cool for the atrix 2. when in reality, it could have already happened, but no one seems to want to actually develop for the atrix 2. just continue talking about cracking the bootloader (then what? lol).
as far as overclocking, you have to have the frequencies written into a custom kernel, which, atrix 2 developers also believe the bootloader needs to be unlocked, which again, is untrue. a kernel can be sideloaded at boot. but again, no developer wants to look into it, because they are for some ungodly reason convinced the bootloader has to be unlocked for them to do anything.

Your forgetting one very important thing Svtfmook. To have development, we have to have developers. We have about 3 that I know if that are that are capable of doing anything and out of the 3 I'm thinking of NONE are recognized developers. You, Jimmy273 and Jimbridgeman. We had one with Pirateghost but he left. I pm'd Nitroglycerin33 to help with our bootstrap and Daywalker04 to help us find a FXZ which he is still working on. I wish I could help more but I don't know jack **** about most of this stuff. I'm willing to help and we need to get everyone that we can to help.
I have pm'd several developers from the OG ATRIX but some just aren't interested. But I'm not giving up. We will get some development here one way or another.
BTW I'm still looking forward to your work here and thank you for what you have done so far.

JRW 28 & svtfmook , I'm not a developer but I am willing to help out in any way I can.
Please let me know what I can do.... If I need to start learning how to develop I will even do that.

Coldheat1906 said:
JRW 28 & svtfmook , I'm not a developer but I am willing to help out in any way I can.
Please let me know what I can do.... If I need to start learning how to develop I will even do that.
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Bout the only thing I know of going on daily is this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
You can help us hit the servers daily searching for updates. If you know any developers try and recruit them as well. We could use all the help we can get!

JRW 28 said:
Bout the only thing I know of going on daily is this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
You can help us hit the servers daily searching for updates. If you know any developers try and recruit them as well. We could use all the help we can get!
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Ok will do!
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JRW 28 said:
Your forgetting one very important thing Svtfmook. To have development, we have to have developers. We have about 3 that I know if that are that are capable of doing anything and out of the 3 I'm thinking of NONE are recognized developers. You, Jimmy273 and Jimbridgeman. We had one with Pirateghost but he left. I pm'd Nitroglycerin33 to help with our bootstrap and Daywalker04 to help us find a FXZ which he is still working on. I wish I could help more but I don't know jack **** about most of this stuff. I'm willing to help and we need to get everyone that we can to help.
I have pm'd several developers from the OG ATRIX but some just aren't interested. But I'm not giving up. We will get some development here one way or another.
BTW I'm still looking forward to your work here and thank you for what you have done so far.
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Yes that is 100% true I am not a ROM developer nor do I have the want to do that... But I can an will do android and kernel development and hacking.... I have been part of Linux kernel dev since the 0.87 kernel, so that is where my strengths are.... I have already been working on an overclocked / more stable kernel for this phone from the source released for the Bionic and the RAZR, which I was able to get a hold of.... If I told you guys who my current client is I might be let out of the contract, if you know what I mean (it is one of the big 2 wireless providers and it is not Verizon), since I am doing system hardware architecture for then now.
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Yes we will get an overclocked kernel on the Atrix2.
As Svtfmook, and others have stated there are ways to sideload another kernel, and I have even another way to load a kernel, but with dire consequences at this point...
The point is that again as others have stated sit tight until we have all the pieces we need in place to get everyone what they want. We are all working within the confines that have been put in by the manufactures of these devices, and trying to find ways to get around those by thinking and running things outside the box so to speak.
P.S. They are running Custom ROMS on the Bionic without and unlocked bootloader. I know of the Th3ory ROM in particular, and there are others I am sure by now.

jimbridgman said:
Yes that is 100% true I am not a ROM developer nor do I have the want to do that... But I can an will do android and kernel development and hacking.... I have been part of Linux kernel dev since the 0.87 kernel, so that is where my strengths are.... I have already been working on an overclocked / more stable kernel for this phone from the source released for the Bionic and the RAZR, which I was able to get a hold of.... If I told you guys who my current client is I might be let out of the contract, if you know what I mean (it is one of the big 2 wireless providers and it is not Verizon), since I am doing system hardware architecture for then now.
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Jim, I appreciate everything you do for us and I will try to help and stay involved as much as I can. Like I stated earlier, I don't know jack about code or Linux or anything. What little I do is from searching and from people like you Jim. I look forward to reading everything you post because you can make a noob like be understand things . Although I still get lost in left field sometimes HaHa. We will get somewhere with this phone from the help of people like you Jim. Thank you for all the hard work you do! And thanks to everyone who is putting time into this phone!

Damn I hope that developement ramps up for this phone. I have the sgs2 skyrocket and Im getting a free atrix2 as well. The skyrocket is crazy fast.
(It wont let me post pics yet but I pull a 6314 on my sgs2sr, beating out the galaxy nexus)
This was at stock clock 1.5ghz with a stripped down stock rom. Antutu has trouble running the 1.83 oc I daily the skyrocket on. Once I get my atrix2 Ill hopefully be able to do some dev work on it

We'd love you if you did.

No ICS for Galaxy S

Oh well, no Ice Cream for you!
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,281...+(PCMag.com+Breaking+News)&utm_content=My+MSN
Edit: No Ice Cream for US! Is that better?

Would this include the Infuse? Lol.

Key doesn't phaaaase me bro. We don't get it, se don't get it. And op seems to be rubbing it in our face. Fag.
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Doesn't look like it.
The Captivate is pretty much the same phone as the infuse. Only difference is 200MHZ........

Does anybody really care about what Samsung officially provides anymore? I know I don't really give a damn what AT&T/Samsung put out anymore. It means exactly nothing to me.

Sarius24 said:
Key doesn't phaaaase me bro. We don't get it, se don't get it. And op seems to be rubbing it in our face. Fag.
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Nothing of the sort! In case you hadn't noticed, I have an Infuse, love it! Just passing on information. I don't give a damn if Samsung updates my phone. I love this site and what the devs do. Never have had stock anything on my Android phones.
So, Bite me, asswipe!

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Does anybody really care about what Samsung officially provides anymore? I know I don't really give a damn what AT&T/Samsung put out anymore. It means exactly nothing to me.
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I agree 100%. I was just passing on an article I read.

This topic is such a waste of server space for xda and I feel bad that I contributed to its uselessness.
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Who really gives a flying F**k anymore. I already knew from previous phones that this would be 1 of those phones that doesn't have enough ram, hardware and etc to run ICS. We have GB based roms with all working features we can all use now all tweaked up to give the best performance possible. I bought the Infuse for 2 damn reasons and 2 only. 1. The screen is big enough for my hands, to view pictures, browse the web, and watch videos. 2. You can't brick this phone, I've done masses and masses of research on this phone and this is the only phone that can handle the screw ups and bad flashes, (WORTH BUYING JUST FOR THIS REASON) ICS - Who gives a damn, By next year we'll have another OS rolling out and ICS will be old news and you won't want it. I hear the next OS is to be called Jelly Bean!
Edit: the next OS is suppose to get better camera software, apps that take advantage of Hardware acceleration possibly Apps that will take advantage of Dual Core, But yet I didn't hear anything about ICS taking advantage of Acceleration and or Apps taking advantage of Dual Core. My 2 cents would be save your money and WAIT!!! Stop wasting your money.

Why has the Infuse forum become such garbage for the most part. All I ever really see anymore are people who have absolutely no idea what they're doing and want you to wipe their ass and hold their hand through installing anything custom, or things like this.... I miss the pre-November Infuse forums...

+1
hell, I liked it better when the devs were begging for a Rogers Infuse dump lol. (Those were the good ol' days) That was before I actually made an account here, just a follower then
EDIT: well look at that, another desperate noob begging for help in the Q&A...face-palm
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Kevinr678 said:
Why has the Infuse forum become such garbage for the most part. All I ever really see anymore are people who have absolutely no idea what they're doing and want you to wipe their ass and hold their hand through installing anything custom, or things like this.... I miss the pre-November Infuse forums...
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(><) LOL! It's really not that hard if you know how to read, This forum seems to be repeating itself with the same topics each and every day for the most part. I feel all confuzled with what's been happening since September on this forum when I first got my Infuse. Dman, Entropy, Linuzbozo, and a few others who have been here since that time till now have been Great! and have shown a lot of support. But as much as I have read so far it seems people are to *****y and needy of things they want but may never have. These devs show Great effort into helping us achieve a great experience with the Infuse, and yet everyone wants to complain about their hard work when they should be complimenting them.

Axiomkid said:
I already knew from previous phones that this would be 1 of those phones that doesn't have enough ram, hardware and etc to run ICS.
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AOSP ICS runs on a Nexus S beautifully. Its hardware is virtually identical to a Vibrant (from what I understand). To my knowledge, a Vibrant is a Galaxy S derivative (or clone) so obviously it'll run on a Galaxy S phone.
If Samsung would provide the binaries necessary to run it on an Infuse, someone or a group of people would have a ROM cooked up from source in no time.
However, Samsung has only so many developers and they have to draw the line somewhere so someone gets the axe. It's similar to what Google did for the Nexus One users. I hear that ICS will run on that phone just fine. I haven't confirmed that in their forums though.

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AOSP ICS runs on a Nexus S beautifully. Its hardware is virtually identical to a Vibrant (from what I understand). To my knowledge, a Vibrant is a Galaxy S derivative (or clone) so obviously it'll run on a Galaxy S phone.
If Samsung would provide the binaries necessary to run it on an Infuse, someone or a group of people would have a ROM cooked up from source in no time.
However, Samsung has only so many developers and they have to draw the line somewhere so someone gets the axe. It's similar to what Google did for the Nexus One users. I hear that ICS will run on that phone just fine. I haven't confirmed that in their forums though.
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But for what's its worth who knows

Axiomkid said:
But for what's its worth who knows
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True. Unfortunately, it's ALL speculation.

jvanlew said:
AOSP ICS runs on a Nexus S beautifully. Its hardware is virtually identical to a Vibrant (from what I understand). To my knowledge, a Vibrant is a Galaxy S derivative (or clone) so obviously it'll run on a Galaxy S phone.
If Samsung would provide the binaries necessary to run it on an Infuse, someone or a group of people would have a ROM cooked up from source in no time.
However, Samsung has only so many developers and they have to draw the line somewhere so someone gets the axe. It's similar to what Google did for the Nexus One users. I hear that ICS will run on that phone just fine. I haven't confirmed that in their forums though.
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Vibrant has an almost stable ICS ROM out; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362961
And yes, a Nexus S and a Vibrant are almost pretty much the same phone.
The lack of support for us Galaxy S users is disappointing, but given the Vibrant didn't even get an official Gingerbread update, it's crazy to assume we'd get ICS. Now, for the Infuse 4G, I don't really know how different it is, but I've seen ports from the i9000 on here, they have a running ICS version, someone could try porting it.

Sammy seemed to give up on this phone barely after launch huh? If only they'd release the kernel source we'd be golden.

Ics really is not all that...I ran it on several phones already...and yea its cool for a bit...but I always go back to my tweaked out catyrom cause its way faster....it wasn't as impressive as I thought it would be...people want it on the infuse because we don't have it. People always want want they don't have. Its really not that big a deal in my opinion...
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dman3285 said:
Ics really is not all that...I ran it on several phones already...and yea its cool for a bit...but I always go back to my tweaked out catyrom cause its way faster....it wasn't as impressive as I thought it would be...people want it on the infuse because we don't have it. People always want want they don't have. Its really not that big a deal in my opinion...
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I agree.. my CM7 setup runs so smooth, better than ICS.
Honestly, I just like the look of ICS.. but as you can see here, it's possible on CM7.
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I didn't mean to start such an uproar! Was just posting an article that may interest some, or stop some from "wanting" so bad. Maybe the moderator should just delete this thread.
I don't know why the Infuse is such a hot topic, Captivate forums were never this hostile.
As I stated, I like my Infuse as it is! Easy to flash and manipulate whatever way I want.

[Q] Protecting Root

I have a quick question about how best to protect my root.
So far I've gathered that if I'm rooted, bootloader unlocked, recovery installed, etc, then OTA updates are shut down and there's no way I can lose root.
Is that correct?
Thanks,
Chris

czucker said:
I have a quick question about how best to protect my root.
So far I've gathered that if I'm rooted, bootloader unlocked, recovery installed, etc, then OTA updates are shut down and there's no way I can lose root.
Is that correct?
Thanks,
Chris
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the best way to protect yourself from OTA updates is to install a custom ROM.

The only way you are going to lose root is by deliberately installing an OTA or RUU. You have to take a specific action to lose root. Ninjas aren't going to sneak into your house and take root away.

Not sure how you knew I'm ninjaphobic. . .
But that's good to know.
I'm happily running CleanROM as we speak.

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Not sure how you knew I'm ninjaphobic. . .
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Isn't everyone?

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You people crack me up
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You people crack me up
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And always do helpful. Well, except when Gunny is being a "douche". His words not mine. LOL
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droidiac13 said:
And always do helpful. Well, except when Gunny is being a "douche". His words not mine. LOL
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"Douche" gunny is the best gunny, IMO.
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_MetalHead_ said:
"Douche" gunny is the best gunny, IMO.
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I'm usually a good guy I just lose patience with the terminally stupid.

gunnyman said:
I'm usually a good guy I just lose patience with the terminally stupid.
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It brings entertainment for us so you're being a good guy for those who aren't.
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I'm usually just on these forums in the background reading and following instructions but I must chime in. You all are great and provide some funny comments. Glad to be in the one x forums. Thanks to all your contributions and patience with some of us. I will press the "thanks" button as well rather then just say it lol
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On a more related note..
Has anyone tried SuperSu Pro's root keeper functionality? Should do exactly what OP needs, but I haven't tried it with an OTA on the HOX. Also, there's an app called OTA Rootkeeper I believe and it was proven to have survived the 1.85 OTA update.
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k4p741nkrunch said:
On a more related note..
Has anyone tried SuperSu Pro's root keeper functionality? Should do exactly what OP needs, but I haven't tried it with an OTA on the HOX. Also, there's an app called OTA Rootkeeper I believe and it was proven to have survived the 1.85 OTA update.
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OTA Rootkeeper did survive the 1.85 OTA but considering that rooted users should NEVER accept an OTA, those apps are useless. There's no way to know if it will actually keep your root unless someone takes one for the team. People need to just chill out and wait till our devs come out with a rooted version or update their ROMs to the latest OTA (which usually happens before the OTA hits anyway).

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OTA Rootkeeper did survive the 1.85 OTA but considering that rooted users should NEVER accept an OTA, those apps are useless. There's no way to know if it will actually keep your root unless someone takes one for the team. People need to just chill out and wait till our devs come out with a rooted version or update their ROMs to the latest OTA (which usually happens before the OTA hits anyway).
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Preach it brother.
On another related/unrelated note have any of you ever seen so many people go apesh*t over an OTA release? I'm wondering if I should do a poll asking are you running stock urnooted or something else.
I thought XDA was about hacking.

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Crap, maybe I was wrong about ninjas sneaking in and stealing root.
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gunnyman said:
Preach it brother.
On another related/unrelated note have any of you ever seen so many people go apesh*t over an OTA release? I'm wondering if I should do a poll asking are you running stock urnooted or something else.
I thought XDA was about hacking.
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I can only imagine that these are mostly folks that are afraid to unlock the bootloader and void the warranty. Otherwise, yeah why get so excited over the OTA? The exact same version was available weeks before the OTA, as a leaked RUU.

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Crap, maybe I was wrong about ninjas sneaking in and stealing root.
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I can only imagine that these are mostly folks that are afraid to unlock the bootloader and void the warranty. Otherwise, yeah why get so excited over the OTA? The exact same version was available weeks before the OTA, as a leaked RUU.
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Well you know, sometimes a kernel dev or a ROM cooker really has a profound understanding of a device, and sometimes it's just a kid with a kitchen. The OTAs when rooted can sometimes be preferred over the available ROMs. I think that right now, stock unrooted or stock rooted is the number one daily driver for people. True, all the devs are running CleanROM, but I personally prefer all the features the phone was meant to have as opposed to some extra features with the designed features buggy or missing. This phone runs so smooth stock that I think most people don't want to mess it up. Rooting the stock and keeping root through OTAs is my method, as I can ensure noone is hiding RATs or bot frameworks on my phone and maintain stability.
My point is that the creators of this device may have made a few sacrifices for the ultimate health of the device. Sure, change the memory settings, increase the camera bitrate, alter the CPU scheduler and force the second core on, but when my phone is still running peachy keen while your One X is out of breath we'll see who made the smarter choice.
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k4p741nkrunch said:
Well you know, sometimes a kernel dev or a ROM cooker really has a profound understanding of a device, and sometimes it's just a kid with a kitchen. The OTAs when rooted can sometimes be preferred over the available ROMs. I think that right now, stock unrooted or stock rooted is the number one daily driver for people. True, all the devs are running CleanROM, but I personally prefer all the features the phone was meant to have as opposed to some extra features with the designed features buggy or missing. This phone runs so smooth stock that I think most people don't want to mess it up. Rooting the stock and keeping root through OTAs is my method, as I can ensure noone is hiding RATs or bot frameworks on my phone and maintain stability.
My point is that the creators of this device may have made a few sacrifices for the ultimate health of the device. Sure, change the memory settings, increase the camera bitrate, alter the CPU scheduler and force the second core on, but when my phone is still running peachy keen while your One X is out of breath we'll see who made the smarter choice.
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I completely, 110% couldn't agree more with you. I've never, in my experience, encountered a custom ROM that didn't end up rearing some ugly, little, niggling bug that I couldn't figure out (and sometimes, great big giant bugs).
I tried a number of ROMs on my capivate and Nexus S, and they always end up with an issue that sends me into an all-nighter, reading threads on here.
Like you said, I got tired of giving up long term stability, in order to have extra tweaks and features - as mouth wateringly tempting that they may be. I've always ended up getting frustrated with custom ROMs and going back to rooted stock, and removing bloatware.
To echo what you said, sometimes it is someone with a deep understandstanding of the device, and sometimes it's someone with a kitchen. But sometimes it's an office full of guys with a deep understanding of the device, and I like to think that they offer the best "daily driver" ROM. (I mean this as no slight against any cook or dev.)
Of course, that doesn't allow for a stock ROM with super customizability - but they have to find a happy medium somewhere between customizability and idiot proof. I happen to find that happy medium on rooted stock ROMs.
Maybe if it's announced AT&T isn't going to release a Jelly bean update for this device, then I'll likely consider a custom ROM. Until then, like you said, "this phone runs so smooth stock."

k4p741nkrunch said:
Well you know, sometimes a kernel dev or a ROM cooker really has a profound understanding of a device, and sometimes it's just a kid with a kitchen. The OTAs when rooted can sometimes be preferred over the available ROMs. I think that right now, stock unrooted or stock rooted is the number one daily driver for people. True, all the devs are running CleanROM, but I personally prefer all the features the phone was meant to have as opposed to some extra features with the designed features buggy or missing. This phone runs so smooth stock that I think most people don't want to mess it up. Rooting the stock and keeping root through OTAs is my method, as I can ensure noone is hiding RATs or bot frameworks on my phone and maintain stability.
My point is that the creators of this device may have made a few sacrifices for the ultimate health of the device. Sure, change the memory settings, increase the camera bitrate, alter the CPU scheduler and force the second core on, but when my phone is still running peachy keen while your One X is out of breath we'll see who made the smarter choice.
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You completely misunderstood my point. I didn't even mention custom ROMs, and that's not what I was talking about. I specifically mentioned the leaked RUU, which is the exact same versions as the present OTA, and was available weeks before the OTA. The only difference is that until the root method was found for 1.85, you needed to unlock the bootloader before running the RUU in order to have root.
Plus, I've seen OTAs on other devices that caused much more problems than the RUU. RUU is a completely clean install. OTA is almost always just a messy patch.
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nespid said:
I completely, 110% couldn't agree more with you. I've never, in my experience, encountered a custom ROM that didn't end up rearing some ugly, little, niggling bug that I couldn't figure out (and sometimes, great big giant bugs).
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As I already replied to the other guy, I wasn't even talking about custom ROMs. Not sure how you guys even got off on that tangent. But since we're already there . . .
Your experience with custom ROM is unfortunate. I've used numerous custom ROMs by various devs on the Desire Z that were more stable than stock, and even fixed bugs that were present on stock. Early in a ROMs lifespan, there may be bugs. Especially if the ROM is a port from another device. Devs will sometimes even name their ROM as "beta" during this time period. But once many ROMs are given a little time to reach maturity, they will often be more stable than stock.
Sure, the stock ROM is a fine place to be for many people. This is the first Android device I've owned where the stock firmware didn't completely suck. And stock ROM with root, even better. But don't sell custom ROMs completely short.

Leaving BL locked (for now).
gunnyman said:
Preach it brother.
On another related/unrelated note have any of you ever seen so many people go apesh*t over an OTA release? I'm wondering if I should do a poll asking are you running stock urnooted or something else.
I thought XDA was about hacking.
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I can only imagine that these are mostly folks that are afraid to unlock the bootloader and void the warranty. Otherwise, yeah why get so excited over the OTA? The exact same version was available weeks before the OTA, as a leaked RUU.[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for anyone else, but I think this is what I was speaking to in response to why I stay away from custom ROMs. It's not that I am afraid to unlock BL, or that I am ape poo for an OTA. I've just found the most stability in stock ROMs. And yes, of course, no stock ROM is without its own issues, but at least I have the recourse to go back to AT&T and say, "Hey, this device smells. Replace it, please."
Redpoint, you're right about custom ROMs reaching maturity. That's why I mentioned that if AT&T announces no Jelly Bean update, I would likely consider a custom ROM. Although, I would probably wait a good while before flashing anything to allow for that "maturity" you mentioned. I have a friend who runs CM9 nightly builds, and never encounters issues - but I don't think he tinkers as much as I do. He seems to flash a custom ROM, and leave it "stock". I always flash custom and start going bananas trying every tweak under the sun - I think this is the err of my ways. I need to learn moderation. haha
And as far as why I was looking for an answer to the OTA update on rooted devices, my concern was that my device would flash the update without my consent. Should that have happened, I wanted to see what I was up against. Otherwise, I am still happily on 1.73 and I have no desire to update to 1.85, at this time. As far as I am aware, it addresses some wifi connectivity issues (that I am not experiencing), and it seems to have created a battery drain issue (which I am also not experiencing).

Advice after personal experience

I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
And that is your personal expierence about cm10 8/8...I got a GPS lock in less then a minute...and I have 0 lag
Imho opinion this thread is pointless...it clearly states in ops what doesnt work-just go back to froyo...its obvious that's what you want
Btw...wasn't trying to be rude...just stating my opinion
Sent from my HTC Holiday using Tapatalk 2

mg2195 said:
Well...obviously rooting/flashing roms isntt for you...you know its easy to go back to stock froyo...
And the whole point of ics/jb is staying up to date with the latest software...any true tech guy would want to flash ics/jb-regardless of the bugs
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I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !

My one and a half cent:
IMHO For most people rooting and flashing is probably something they should not do. All they want is a functional phone that does phone things: text, make calls, check Facebook, etc. That is exactly what they get when their phone comes out of the box. That's great and awesome: don't worry, be happy.
There are others "hackers" or not, who like to tinker, figure out how things work, "try" and get them to work more efficiently, or "better". This includes those who are not as technical as the devs but are willing to help, test and report.
These people who are ready and willing to live with the fact that their expensive functional phone may end up as an expensive piece of plastic and metal...well root and flash away.
But to complain that your phone is worse after using someones hardwork and effort is pointless. Report problems yes...complain...not cool.
These boards are filled with complaints and cries for help from people who probably should have stuck with the phone they got from the store and just been happy. Rooting is not for everyone.
Peace
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
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Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287

Forget, Froy, GB, ICS, JB...
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qkster said:
Blasphemer! Heinous! Stone him!!
You don't like ways to break your phone?
You don't like to learn how to add a new APN?
You don't want to downgrade your 720p video to 480p?
- joking.
In several aspects, I agree with you re: FROYO. The Froyo phone does what it is suppose to do. Great cam/vid; GPS, mms and call. If you're not dying the the latest, it runs just fine. Froyo doesn't support Gtalk Video
I'm not sure about your experience with GB though. I've not seen the lags, freezes and reboots on the official firmware.
The main thing I recall from official GB is make sure you install it without a microSD in place and after it is installed, copy off all your stuff from the internal SDcard and do a factory reset under /setting/privacy.
Here a froyo treat for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25526638&postcount=1
In December 2011, I wrote this thread. I thought it was pretty funny at the time. If you reflect on it, you may like the practical points I was making.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397287
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qkster that thread was Awesome! I had never read that before...hilarious
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Okay so maybe ICS and JB are not for you.. but what about GB ROMs like Emancipation and Aeon? Have you given them a try?
Stock is okay but it has too much room for improvement and that's where our brilliant devs come in. Believe in them and in their work. They are not here to turn phones into robots that will lead us to our doom
Sent from my sweet and buttery Infuse

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Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:

PoXFreak said:
Joe, you keep that crap up and the mods might take your merit badges, along with your box of cookies and your bag of jelly beans!....lol :laugh:
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Wat?!?
Bigjoe slowly walking away....now running....gone....

bilihor said:
I was like that 20 years ago, yeah, all new stuff, bugs? we can live with them. But this is point of view of a hacker. The ultimate goal is to make it work, not to make it work maybe. Does it make sense to just "stay with new technology, maybe" ?
I drifted from being hacker who makes cool things to make applications which work and feel great about it.
Most of the people just need their phone to work. Oh, yeah, you are texting now with JellyBean !
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Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
All these people want, in essence, is a phone with the newest available software... that works. Thats why there is always someone working on some problem or "bug", trying and (99.9% of the time) succeeding. Sometimes we fail, but there is always someone else willing to pick up where we left off.
One reason I enjoy playing with firmware...; the challenge. I've always been one to take it apart and somehow make it better, regardless of what it is. A car, a radio, a computer... whatever.
On a side note, maybe reflashing your firmware will fix the issues your having with your Infuse now?

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.... thought I read somewhere that pornographic images are not allowed on xda... :silly:

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

bilihor said:
I had Infuse with original Froyo for a while and heard wonderful things about Gingerbread (GB), how battery is much better and stuff.
So I waited for official GB upgrade and used standard way AT&T is doing upgrades.
Gingerbread was bad, freezes, reboots, etc. BTW, my wifes Atrix 2 works nice with GB and holds charge for two days. That was one of the reasons I believed in GB.
Since my GB was so bad I started to look here to get devices rooted and install something new and better.
Unfortunately nothing is better than original Froyo. Sorry guys, I do not understand what is so good in ICS or JellyBean? Can somebody list new features?
I'm using now CM10 8/8, my portable hotspot is not working, my battery is worth, my Bluetooth is having issues, my GPS was not working at all until 8/8 build and most of all I do not see any features of ICS or JB worth spending time installing it. And I did not even try to evaluate camera/video. According to some notes, HD video is having issues.
I am not new to technologies and I did all upgrades according to dev notes. This is just my experience and may help some new people save some time trying.
BTW 8/8 very laggy, changing screens slow, even if I put min cpu to 1200, gps shows satellites but I did not have enough time (waited 15 minutes) and did not get any sat locks.
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IDK, maybe you got the initial, buggy, official GB update? I jumped ship and flashed Zeus long before that. And it ran smoother and I got better battery life with it than stock Froyo.
And it's pretty clearly written in each thread what is being seen by folks using the ROMs. For the CM10 build, It's pretty well known that GPS had issues until 8/8. It's posted clearly that several folks had issues with trebuchet lagging, so they loaded an alternate launcher and got better results. It's posted that wifi hotspot doesn't work with WPA or WPA2 with the bcrmhd driver (think that's the specific driver) and disabling security will allow it to work.
I know there are 200+ pages on some of these ROM threads, and many of the posts are 'me too' 'OMG this is so cool' or 'WTF? Read the OP'. But there are useful nuggets of information in there, especially the OP, and you really need to read them all to know what you might see with that ROM, or at least to know 'oh, I'm not the only one with that problem, and here's how they fixed it.'
In short, don't be ready to jump to a ROM that's only been out a short time until you know that either the bugs are fixed or you can live with the bugs that have been reported. Believe it or not, there IS a reason it takes time for official updates to roll out too, and it's not just to piss everyone off.

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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.... my current rig
may consider an upgrade if the holiday deals are just right....
...only 11 more payments to bigjoe and she'll be all mine.

PoXFreak said:
Please don't make this into one of those "I'm too old for this crap" debates. I might possibly be as old as you are, seeing as how I got my start on SCO Xenix way back when the 386DX25 was the processor to have.
Hell, I remember MS Windows 1.1! 6 black and white windows, the beginnings of multi-tasking...
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fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)

bilihor said:
fortran, basm, basic, dos 2.0, turbo pascal 3, IBM XT, PS/1 - those are times I started coding, circa 1987
(... deleted "politically incorrect" paragraph addressed not to you PoXFreak. I hate it here in US, people are always nice to each other, no matter what, or you will be called complainer ...)
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Yes...turbo pascal...I remember turbo pascal...or actually forgot turbo pascal. I couldn't code in that anymore to save my life
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app

PoXFreak said:
Timex Sinclair, cassette drive, b/w TV for a monitor... that was my first start. All BASIC language...
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda app-developers app
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Bunch of old farts in here...soon someone is gonna bust out old punchcards or even an abacus
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse

Smokestack360 said:
Wow!!! You are old
Tandy 1000 here .... 5 1/4 floppy ... All DOS baby... Anyone? Anyone?
Sent from a de-FUNKt Infuse
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I saw this in my great grandfather's office.
I'm not sure what it is.
I first PC was an Intel i7 quadcore 8gb RAM and 2tb drive.

Custom ROMS

I really do appreciate all the hard work DEVS put into building ROMS. But I really get frustrated with very buggy ROMS or ROMS not stable for daily use being released WITHOUT IT BEING KNOWN. I mean forgive me if I am wrong but how can someone build a stock ROM and make it run worse than stock? I'm not trying to criticize negatively, but am I alone on this? I think everything about a ROM should be posted on the OP. Not just some stuff but everything like "Known issues" "What doesnt work" and "bugs" should be the first thing we see instead having to look for it and being linked to other sites and what not. I am not trying to sound ungrateful but I really depend on ROMS and would start to DEV myself but find myself too busy providing for my family. I donate when I can and appreciate all the work but maybe there should be a category for only "Stable ROMS" and "Daily Drivers"

in my opinion except Lg devides(Because still I have a Lg), usually stock rom better than costum roms... Almost all costum roms have some problem

Agreed. Just run NoSympathys deodexed, zipaligned, debloated stock rom with imo's v0.1 leankernal...runs amazing..on my way to a 15 hr battery
Sent from my SCH-I535

ekklesiaillusion said:
Agreed. Just run NoSympathys deodexed, zipaligned, debloated stock rom with imo's v0.1 leankernal...runs amazing..on my way to a 15 hr battery
Sent from my SCH-I535
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Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
Sent from my Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk 2

ekklesiaillusion said:
Agreed. Just run NoSympathys deodexed, zipaligned, debloated stock rom with imo's v0.1 leankernal...runs amazing..on my way to a 15 hr battery
Sent from my SCH-I535
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I dont know why I didnt think of that in the first place. Thanks for the tip.

TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
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I have been running synergy and have had issues ever since 1.3. BTW we're not incompetent just to clear that up.

TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
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agreed !:laugh::laugh:

TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent )
Imagine, if you will, oc'ed aosp speeds on a stock rom.....
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Run synergy and have bugs in every version? No thanks. Tried it before nosympathy and couldnt switch calls, new version came out 2 days later and had no mms over 160 characters along with settings force close. Its a nice rom, but flashing a new version or fix every other day just doesnt make sense to me.
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addictedhacks said:
I dont know why I didnt think of that in the first place. Thanks for the tip.
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No problem. Ive ran every rom available out now and this set up is by far the best.
addictedhacks said:
I have been running synergy and have had issues ever since 1.3. BTW we're not incompetent just to clear that up.
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Yeah incompetant has nothing to do. Not wanting to flash fixes and new versions every other day
Sent from my SCH-I535

Or just run what you like and stop bad mouthing each others' choices and the devs.
/thread

So the point of this thread was??? Waste of space imo:banghead:
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bobloblaw1 said:
Or just run what you like and stop bad mouthing each others' choices and the devs.
/thread
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Bad mouthing? Every post i said the rom is nice, just not for me. Explain how that is bad mouthing? I explained my experience with that rom. Am i only allowed to say good things about it? No its called feedback (good or bad). Get off your internet high horse.
Sent from my SCH-I535

I have been running Synergy for many versions now and never had any of the issues that people have reported, like GPS lock issues, etc.
The ROM is incredibly fast, I get great battery, and bug free for me!

Synergy 1.3 in my opinion works the best on my phone. No problems with battery,gps,kernels or even theming.
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hopesrequiem said:
So the point of this thread was??? Waste of space imo:banghead:
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How have you gotten away with not bricking every phone you have ever touched without reading the O.P.?
I really do appreciate all the hard work DEVS put into building ROMS. But I really get frustrated with very buggy ROMS or ROMS not stable for daily use being released WITHOUT IT BEING KNOWN. I mean forgive me if I am wrong but how can someone build a stock ROM and make it run worse than stock? I'm not trying to criticize negatively, but am I alone on this? I think everything about a ROM should be posted on the OP. Not just some stuff but everything like "Known issues" "What doesnt work" and "bugs" should be the first thing we see instead having to look for it and being linked to other sites and what not. I am not trying to sound ungrateful but I really depend on ROMS and would start to DEV myself but find myself too busy providing for my family. I donate when I can and appreciate all the work but maybe there should be a category for only "Stable ROMS" and "Daily Drivers"

ekklesiaillusion said:
Bad mouthing? Every post i said the rom is nice, just not for me. Explain how that is bad mouthing? I explained my experience with that rom. Am i only allowed to say good things about it? No its called feedback (good or bad). Get off your internet high horse.
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So you try to prove you aren't bad-mouthing by making a negative comment about me??
Furthermore, feedback is specific and constructive. Bringing up issues from old builds that are no longer relevant helps no one and leads to a false impression of how the ROM is TODAY.
A sample of what you have said:
ekklesiaillusion said:
Run synergy and have bugs in every version? No thanks. Tried it before nosympathy and couldnt switch calls, new version came out 2 days later and had no mms over 160 characters along with settings force close. Its a nice rom, but flashing a new version or fix every other day just doesnt make sense to me.
Sent from my SCH-I535
Yeah incompetant has nothing to do. Not wanting to flash fixes and new versions every other day
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Of course, those issues don't exist anymore (or ever for some of them except for you apparently).
Some other wonderful gems of wisdom from this thread:
mesutziya said:
in my opinion except Lg devides(Because still I have a Lg), usually stock rom better than costum roms... Almost all costum roms have some problem
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Well that was helpful.
TechSavvy2 said:
Or......run Synergy and get a day and a half like tons of us have gotten.....with no issues (unless you're incompetent
)
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This may or may not be true but again, not at all helpful for anyone.
Again, this is a development forum. Things are sometimes broken, half-finished, and often WIP. If you don't like what the devs release, then don't flash it. Your other option is to wait until a dev releases a milestone or stable release. It's really that simple.

Some of these devs are amazing and put out some truly awesome work, however these guys are doing it mostly as a hobby or maybe for donations...but I'll bet they all must work a fulltime job.
The factory roms have probably been dissected by over a dozen or more Sammy peeps before even getting to Red for their further adjustments. Therefore it seems reasonable that the stock roms would be more stable and less buggy. That's common sense!
The custom roms allow user to get rid of unneeded bloat as well as adding in hacks and such. Not to mention almost unlimited theming possibilities.
Every dev inserts a disclaimer in their thread for a reason...YOU INSTALL THEIR ROM AT YOUR OWN RISK! So live with it...or live with stock.

addictedhacks said:
How have you gotten away with not bricking every phone you have ever touched without reading the O.P.?
I really do appreciate all the hard work DEVS put into building ROMS. But I really get frustrated with very buggy ROMS or ROMS not stable for daily use being released WITHOUT IT BEING KNOWN. I mean forgive me if I am wrong but how can someone build a stock ROM and make it run worse than stock? I'm not trying to criticize negatively, but am I alone on this? I think everything about a ROM should be posted on the OP. Not just some stuff but everything like "Known issues" "What doesnt work" and "bugs" should be the first thing we see instead having to look for it and being linked to other sites and what not. I am not trying to sound ungrateful but I really depend on ROMS and would start to DEV myself but find myself too busy providing for my family. I donate when I can and appreciate all the work but maybe there should be a category for only "Stable ROMS" and "Daily Drivers"
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I've had multiple rooted phones. I know how to recover possible bricks. I don't ***** about small issues that ARE in fact known and stated. If you need your phone working 100%, then why run custom software that's experimental? I'm amazed YOU haven't bricked yet you negative Nancy.
PS if its not stated in the op, then read the ******* thread and stop being lazy as hell and expecting these guys to do everything for you.....:banghead:
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bobloblaw1 said:
So you try to prove you aren't bad-mouthing by making a negative comment about me??
Furthermore, feedback is specific and constructive. Bringing up issues from old builds that are no longer relevant helps no one and leads to a false impression of how the ROM is TODAY.
A sample of what you have said:
Of course, those issues don't exist anymore (or ever for some of them except for you apparently).
Some other wonderful gems of wisdom from this thread:
Well that was helpful.
This may or may not be true but again, not at all helpful for anyone.
Again, this is a development forum. Things are sometimes broken, half-finished, and often WIP. If you don't like what the devs release, then don't flash it. Your other option is to wait until a dev releases a milestone or stable release. It's really that simple.
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You nailed it. Addict was the only person having issues with Synergy rom and whined and complained from the start that it was the roms fault. Funny that no one else had the issues that he was having. He obviously dorked something up/restored system data from an old build/installed a bad app/never checked md5s or something of that nature.
Then he goes and makes a thread about buggy roms when we all know exactly what he is referring to and we all know it was his own doing.
For everyone's information, Synergy is an awesome rom and has been since it was released. I have had zero issues outside of what I thought was a gps issue but that was my own mess up. I think a few had a different gps issue and that was it and that has since been solved.
Stop spreading crap info addict. You jacked your system up somehow and it had nothing to do with Synergy rom.
Edit: like others said if you want a "perfect" rom then stick with stock. I just don't understand what your complaint is about. It's not like stock doesn't work and someone is forcing you to flash roms every night.
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Seems the OP got his answer and to prevent further flaming let's just close this.
To the OP, Devs take time away from their family and providing for them to make ROMs out of sheer enjoyment.
They make them for themselves and share them.
It is impossible to find every bug before the ROM is released. Even Samsung can''t do that.
It also takes a lot of time to support a ROM, updating the thread everytime a real bug is found, not just someone who can't flash or mixed in a bad app or data.
You really should try to make your own ROM, release it and support it before making a crappy thread like this.
If you depend on your phone then you should definitely stick to stock and pray there are not bugs unreported there.
Thank you for your cooperation
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