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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
rodimus_prime said:
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.
You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.
You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.
rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html
I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.
Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...
im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.
I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
SysAdmNj said:
I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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pokey9000 said:
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
berdo said:
~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
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All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
Zamdam1 said:
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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rjayflo said:
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him
My Incredible is currently on its last leg...random reboots/shutdowns and I'm outside the warranty. I'm currently rooted, running CM7 and I love it (CM7 and my Inc). I don't flash roms everyday or even every week (really haven't changed since moving to CM) but I like having the flexibility to do so if I want. So the question is do I go with the Thunderbolt or the Incredible 2?
The 4G on the Thunderbolt would just be added feature to me...nothing I need. I looked at the Thunderbolt yesterday and it seemed bulky compared to my current Inc; before that I was set to buy the Thunderbolt. So now I'm struggling...do I get the Thunderbolt that has root or get the Inc2, which I like size wise but only has temp root (and hope full root comes along)?
Question: Rooted Thunderbolt or Temp Root (for now) Incredible 2?
Rooted/Unrooted shouldn't be an issue.. the Inc2 will have stable root for sure.
I am myself coming from the incredible.. (which too I loved).. but I don't regret going over to the TB. The TB looks damn good.. better than the incredible in my opinion.
The extra real estate comes in handy quite a bit when you are browsing or when you are typing.
4G is a HUGE factor for me. Now that I have 4G all around my area.. I can't imagine going back to 3G. Market updates on the go are a lot faster.. downloads are a lot faster and apps that depend on the internet are a lot snappier..... plus the fact that VZW is offering unlimited 4G for 29.99 sweetens the deal.. (not sure if that offer will last for long though).
The bulk factor of the TB that you are talking about..is something you'll get used to within a few days.. so it really is no biggie.. but of course it feels builky to you now because it is new... and you are still using your incredible... But trust me.. after a few days.. it'll feel right.
Thanks for the quick response. I really have been trying not to factor root into the equation. Are there stability issues with the TB? I've been reading the TB forums for a week, since I decided I needed a new phone, and it seems like there might be issues. I also asked some friends at Verizon what their thoughts were and they pretty much told me to steer clear of the TB for now due to buginess...has that been your experience? I don't expect to have some of the problems they mentioned since it most likely wouldn't stay stock for too long.
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Thanks for the quick response. I really have been trying not to factor root into the equation. Are there stability issues with the TB? I've been reading the TB forums for a week, since I decided I needed a new phone, and it seems like there might be issues. I also asked some friends at Verizon what their thoughts were and they pretty much told me to steer clear of the TB for now due to buginess...has that been your experience? I don't expect to have some of the problems they mentioned since it most likely wouldn't stay stock for too long.
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It depends on what you are running. The latest MR2 has been as stable as a ROM could be... battery life even with 4G is pretty decent... no random reboots.. 4G to 3G exchange is seamless.. and over all it is pretty stable.
Gingerbread on the other hand has memory issues, battery issues etc.. though over all it IS kinda stable with the newer radio..
I don't think the leaked GB RUU is as stable or efficient as the latest FRoyo.. and most of them out there are running GB mainly because of the sense 3.0 lockscreen and weather aspects that have been cooked into it (they ARE pretty cool).. but honestly for me.. the stock MR2 Froyo is rock solid and unbeatable.. and I can easily wait until a better GB RUU is dropped.
You have 2 weeks to try out a new phone anyways.. so get yourself a TB.. root it.. install the MR2 stock.. and see how you like it..
If you don't.. then return it back to stock and exchange your phone for something you'll like better.
Another thing that a lot of people don't really mention but has a huge impact on how you use your phone. 4g allows you to browse the internet, recieve emails, texts etc while youre talking on it. Kind of nice in some situations. I take full advantage of it.
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Another thing that a lot of people don't really mention but has a huge impact on how you use your phone. 4g allows you to browse the internet, recieve emails, texts etc while youre talking on it. Kind of nice in some situations. I take full advantage of it.
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excellent point.. but I believe it is possible only on 3G with the Thunderbolt (correct me if I am wrong).
kriskmk said:
You have 2 weeks to try out a new phone anyways.. so get yourself a TB.. root it.. install the MR2 stock.. and see how you like it..
If you don't.. then return it back to stock and exchange your phone for something you'll like better.
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That is what I thought as well...think I'm leaning that direction at this point.
Carnage9270 said:
Another thing that a lot of people don't really mention but has a huge impact on how you use your phone. 4g allows you to browse the internet, recieve emails, texts etc while youre talking on it. Kind of nice in some situations. I take full advantage of it.
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I didn't think about that...good point. 4G might be a selling point for me after all.
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I didn't think about that...good point. 4G might be a selling point for me after all.
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Once you experience 4G .. you wouldn't wanna go back to 3G.. plus the fact that you are getting 4G for the same price from VZW (cheapest in the industry at the moment).. is too good a deal to pass over.
Also factor in the fact the verizon's LTE network.. is wayyy better than sprints WiMax's or AT&T (infact ATT even released a statement that their 4G is not as advanced as Verizon's).
I have the Tbolt and my son has the Inc2. Both have been kept stock (no rooting/roms/etc) and neither one of us have experienced any of the problems that others complain about in the forums, with one exception. Both of have occasional problems syncing multiple email accounts. We live in an area with excellent signal coverage so I don't think that is the issue.
I liked the (slightly) smaller size of the Inc2 better (coming from an Imagio) but have gotten used to the Tbolt. I now prefer the larger screen since it is a bit easier on my eyes. Both phone screens are clear and bright. The on-screen keyboard is easier (for my fat fingers) to use on the Tbolt since it is a bit larger.
The external buttons on the Inc2 are better. The ones on the Tbolt feel mushy but work ok.
Speed of the apps on both seems similar. There is, of course, a bigger memory card on the Tbolt.
Inc2 is global, Tbolt is not so if you travel out of country a lot that might be a consideration.
We live in a 4g area so we can compare network speeds. This is where the huge difference is. The Tbolt download speeds on 4g typically run at 20 to 35 mbps. The best the Inc2 (3g) gets is 2.5 mbps. We can download the same program at the same time, and I will be downloaded, installed, and playing long before my son is finished downloading. I didn't think I would care that much but the Tbolt is a real pleasure in that regard. Unfortunately battery life on the Tbolt is somewhat worse as a result. The Inc2 will consistently go the whole day without charging. The Tbolt seems to be much more random, sometimes getting through the day (16-18 hrs), sometimes half that even though my usage is fairly consistent from day to day. I've disabled/changed settings on all the usual suspects without much effect.
Call quality, bluetooth, speakerphone, and voice commands are very good on both phones. Cameras work well on both.
All things considered, I do not regret getting the Tbolt and probably would again, even though the battery life is not the best. The only thing my son would change about his Inc2 is the lack of 4g. Otherwise he loves it.
Thanks for the comparison...it sounds like the TB size is something I could get use to. I think I'm leaning back towards the TB at this point.
Has anyone done the switch from the captivate? Is it worth it? I currently have mine with Continuum 2.6 and its running smooth but some games give me performance problems or it lags up at times. How much smoother is the Infuse? Really torn, I love my Captivate but I feel like its time to switch. I had the Atrix but didn't like it much.
Someone convince me to switch!
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Has anyone done the switch from the captivate? Is it worth it? I currently have mine with Continuum 2.6 and its running smooth but some games give me performance problems or it lags up at times. How much smoother is the Infuse? Really torn, I love my Captivate but I feel like its time to switch. I had the Atrix but didn't like it much.
Someone convince me to switch!
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continuum 2.6? you didnt want to get gingerbread? well the captivate is like the perfect sized phone, the infuse can be a little awkward to hold with one hand. what i mean is that for my thumb to reach to the other side of the screen the phone just rests on my fingers, i cant grip it in my hand and operate it with my thumb. i havent dropped it that way yet but it is something to think about. it makes swype harder to use with one hand at a minimum. but after you use the big screen the captivate will look and feel tiny and you wont want to go back. as far as differences, well do you have any interest in hooking it to a tv? are you a heavy internet user? the bigger screen and hspa+ really help when browsing, i always ound text hard to read on the captivate, the older samoled screen has a funky subpixel layout and for me it affects readability alot. the infuse, i feel is much more readable. also the extra ram on the infuse will allow it to run a few things better. i switched and dont regret it, it really depends on what you like/want out of a phone.
I came from the Captivate with the Gingerbread version of Continuum installed. It was butter smooth... I haven't looked back since the upgrade and love the value the devs are already bringing to an amazing phone. Love my Infuse!! My wife now has my Cappy and loves it too. The Infuse is definitely a strong step up by Samsung IMO.
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It's hardware is significantly better.
If this had a 4.3" screen it would be better. Things are a tad pixelated.
The software is equal.
If this had TW4 (the whole thing, not just a launcher or an apparently or two) it'd be a home run.
Right now it's more like a ground rule double.
The good thing is that software is always fixable. Spend five minutes in the Captivate forum and you'll see what some stubbornness can acheieve.
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forgot to mention you can take pics and use gps and talk using speakerphone at the same time. try either one with the captivate, the camera and gps are disabled when a call is active! i know to many the camera while talking seems like an odd thing to try but ive been on the phone and wanted to text the person a pic of where i was and was disapointed that i counldnt use the camera. and the gps, well on a long road trip you are bound to get a phone call, just hope you are not anywhere near a turn because it takes the captivate a long time to find a lock again and the nav app to find your position and recheck the route in that situation.
I was going to ask the same question but search feature worked well it seems so I will bump this up. I am looking to upgrade to an infuse. And I was wondering more specifically about how the custom rom experience has been, obviously the captivate has been around longer and with the i9000 it has been able to get a lot of work done through that outlet. So has the infuse been getting a good group of rom chefs? I see mikeymike is here and I loved serendipity on the captivate so for me this is a good sign.
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I was going to ask the same question but search feature worked well it seems so I will bump this up. I am looking to upgrade to an infuse. And I was wondering more specifically about how the custom rom experience has been, obviously the captivate has been around longer and with the i9000 it has been able to get a lot of work done through that outlet. So has the infuse been getting a good group of rom chefs? I see mikeymike is here and I loved serendipity on the captivate so for me this is a good sign.
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There are quite a few good rom chefs here, and there's also some kernel hacking activity going on.
Most of the rom chefs are on break right now - enjoying the summer while we wait for Gingerbread to drop in Canada. Once that happens they'll be busy again, so I fully support them saving their energy for then.
Some people are working on their kernel-fu now, as many of the kernel tweaks and discoveries (Such as, "oh THAT's the ADC I was looking for!") are more easily forward-portable to whatever kernel comes with GB than userland tweaks. If I can ever find an ADC that monitors the USB +5v rail expect a lot of battery charging tweaks. I know how to set the current, but there's severe limits on what I can do with the charge current unless I can monitor the input rail to make sure it isn't getting yanked down by overdraw. (Not all chargers are created equal. Without monitoring +5v input, a kernel that rocks when running off of a 2A iPad charger is going to do all sorts of weird crap on the stock charger, for example.)
That's great to hear, i assume this is a previously answered question but has there been talk of CM7 or MIUI coming over?
Let me give you a pro tip.
Nexus 3, quad or dualcore, by Christmas.
Also, which games lag?
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How is the GPS on the Infuse?
My wife and I have Captivates now and she is directionally challenged to say the least. We both got out Captivates in July of last year, but can upgrade now. I'm not interested in spending $200 for a new phone, I had my last phone for 4 years (HTC Wizard), but my wife is LITERALLY lost most places with out GPS, so a better GPS is a must.
I've just started looking at treads and seeing a "GPS Improvement" thread make me think that Samsung somehow is still screwing up a 20+ year old technology.
She is going to run stock ROM if that'll make a difference.
Thanks for any direction provided.
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My wife and I have Captivates now and she is directionally challenged to say the least. We both got out Captivates in July of last year, but can upgrade now. I'm not interested in spending $200 for a new phone, I had my last phone for 4 years (HTC Wizard), but my wife is LITERALLY lost most places with out GPS, so a better GPS is a must.
I've just started looking at treads and seeing a "GPS Improvement" thread make me think that Samsung somehow is still screwing up a 20+ year old technology.
She is going to run stock ROM if that'll make a difference.
Thanks for any direction provided.
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The CG2900 in the Infuse seems to be an improvement compared to previous hardware. We've got the same GPS chip as the SGS2.
I think Froyo came with early first-gen firmware for the 2900. It seems significantly improved with the Rogers Gingerbread kernel and userland libraries - the only fix people seem to need is occasionally clearing out the ephemeride preloads.
I question whether the "GPS Fix" was even doing anything other than placebo effect. For many people including myself it caused regressions.
Complete stock gps is flawless
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I have big hands too. I'm one hand thumbing this message right now.. hehe
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Sounds fun let be try )))
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I owned a Cappy (great phone), however I am officially in love with my Infuse
In addition to MikeyMike01 comment, I have to add:
- Battery is supposed to be better (lasts longer)
- Front face camera (1.3MP)
- Rear camera with LED flash (8MP)
- 1.2 Ghz processor (mine is OC to 1.6Ghz )
- Comes with Froyo, GB is supposed to be out within the next two weeks (rumors) but there are couple custom GB roms already
- HDMI TV Out support (through USB to HDMI dongle, comes with phone)
I do agree that the GPS is way better and screen is brighter and all looks sharper than on Captivate.
Although size is big and it still a slim phone, so you can fit it in your pocket without problems.
Besides the previously mentioned features they are the same in all other aspects. I once heard that the Infuse is a Captivate on steroids
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Hello.
I currently have an X2 that I am moving away from. I do not want to upgrade my contact at this time, so I will be turning to 3rd party vendors to purchse a different phone.
The HTC Thunderbolt has my attention, however I recall this phone being plagued with problems since launch.
Now that we are 6 months removed, how has this phone faired? Have all the bugs/kinks been worked out?
My wife has an Incredible 2 and I always say I wish I had went with HTC over my Droid x2.
Please share your thoughts on the current state of the Thunderbolt!
It is awful. If you buy it you will probably cry your self to sleep every night.
But if you really want one you can bet the market will be flooded with them as soon as the trinity of phones is released (the Galaxy Nexus, the HTC Rezound, the Moto Droid Razor)
I know I will be returning mine to Best Buy since I future proofed it when I bought it from there.
Just my opinion though.
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its not TERRIBLE..
but there are certainly better phones out there.
primary problem is the battery life.but if you are always near a charger, this is a non-issue.
i, for one, can't wait to get rid of my tbolt when the nexus is released.
Plagued with problems? The only problem I've ever have is the battery life but its to be expected with 4G LTE. Its a very solid phone all around
Being my city isn't mapped for 4G LTE till 2013, does this make a difference in terms of battery life, or does the phone still use the same juice with a 3g signal?
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Being my city isn't mapped for 4G LTE till 2013, does this make a difference in terms of battery life, or does the phone still use the same juice with a 3g signal?
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Will make a significant difference in battery life running 3g, uses far less juice running 3g.
I'm actually on the newest unrooted ruu, and there are honestly no problems. Phone rubs fast as ever, always get signal, battery life is even better.
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I would suggest waiting until the beginning of November. 3 new phones are scheduled for the 10th & aroind that time people with Thunderbolts, Bionics, etc will try to get rid of them to move up & you'll be able to price haggle with them good.
Good advice - I will wait till then!
The TBOLT is not a bad phone at all, but I would wait and check some of the new ones coming out.
But honestly I do not understand why so many people down the tbolt, mine has been a super solid and great phone and I have no need or desire for anything else right now.
With extended battery, I have no issues at all. Fast, reliable and solid.
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The TBOLT is not a bad phone at all, but I would wait and check some of the new ones coming out.
But honestly I do not understand why so many people down the tbolt, mine has been a super solid and great phone and I have no need or desire for anything else right now.
With extended battery, I have no issues at all. Fast, reliable and solid.
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not to mention the Tbolt is indestructible(so long as the screen doesn't get hit). i got pissed one night while i was driving and threw it out the window. i stopped and went back to get it and it had some scratches on it but was still working perfectly.
although if it's anything like the HD2, don't let even the slightest drop of water anywhere near it.
The phone itself is a hell of a lot better than a good deal of what HTC has put out before. The software has been the only real problem and that's been almost completely worked out. I'm not sure there's any outstanding issues with functionality and reliability. An extra power-sucking core that's identical to the one in the Tbolt doesn't turn me on enough to be tempted to upgrade. I don't know anyone who's disappointed with it.
Personally I love my bolt and I'm not super worried about the uh "trinity" lol. The bionic was supposed to be this amazing phone but I saw one and frankly I would rather have my old bolt.
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
Ignore the Naysayers... It's a great phone. Rooted.. Mine is smooth as butter. Battery is not an issue of you plan right. I put my stock battery back in (with extended to fall back on). Lte is stinkin awesome. The screen (when not in direct sun) is perfectly acceptable.
Unrooted? Well, I can't tell you.. It's been too long. I rooted because I was tired of waiting for GB and the bloatware.
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Being my city isn't mapped for 4G LTE till 2013, does this make a difference in terms of battery life, or does the phone still use the same juice with a 3g signal?
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I am on 3g only. Don't even have my 4g radio on. With a Sense rom I get about 6 hours of medium use.
Milage may differ. I guess you should consider my opinion as biased bc I don't like Sense at all. Why did I buy HTC? I don't know?!
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If I had an upgrade coming up I'd seriously consider the tbolt. 4g phone for $100 & a extended battery, sign me up. Seems that all the bugs are finally worked out & with GB finally close, it's a good deal.
This coming from a guy that had 3 bolts in 5 months. For what it can do & the price, its almost too good to pass up.
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It's an amazing phone for the price. I'm running a BAMF GB sense 3.0 ROM and I spend most of the day checking on the forums or messaging my girlfriend, although a lot is on WiFi. On BAMF Forever I pull 30 hours on extended battery. And that's not with anything disabled that I use. I won't handicap a feature just for battery life.
It's insanely durable hardware wise as someone mentioned. And the developer support for it is rest good. It's a very nice time to purchase the Thunderbolt as well as a lot of people are getting ready to sell to go to the new rezound, formerly called Vigor, because it was hyped early on as the Thunderbolt 2.
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If I had an upgrade coming up I'd seriously consider the tbolt. 4g phone for $100 & a extended battery, sign me up. Seems that all the bugs are finally worked out & with GB finally close, it's a good deal.
This coming from a guy that had 3 bolts in 5 months. For what it can do & the price, its almost too good to pass up.
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X2- just root it and customize to your liking. New to the Bolt, but only issue I have is battery life. But from all I hear, common issue with 4g devices. Got Verizon to throw in extended battery with purchase, just haven't installed yet, looking into "slim" extended battery.
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