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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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pokey9000 said:
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
berdo said:
~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
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All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him
Seriously, who's in charge of the stock theming for our Charges? Who's decision was it to release a good phone on the market with a POOP BROWN COLOR SCHEME?! They should be fired!
And why does the battery life SUCK on this phone?! Why is it that we have to painstakingly calibrate the battery ourselves just to squeeze a days worth out of it? Samsung, I know you're trying to keep the costs down, but would it kill you to put a Li-Po battery in here or something?
Why does my 4G randomly drop to 3G, and then to 1X? Granted, somehow I've been seeing a lot less of this lately, but why did you let it happen in the first place?! Come on, that didn't happen to you ONCE during beta testing, Sammy?
Who's the joker who put so little ram into this phone? I bet when they designed it they were like "oh, this is going to screw so many people lol..."
And while I'm at it, I hate noobs. They don't even ATTEMPT to either look through the stickies or use the search.
Other than that, I am truly happy with this phone. I made the right decision when I upgraded.
I feel better after that rant; Feel free to vent some steam about your Charge in this thread; you therapist called, and he wants you to.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
samsung needs to put a freakin' notification LED in their higher end phones (Galaxy line and Charge).. it's a simple and small thing to do but makes a huge difference, other than that its a great phone I think
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G
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Seriously, who's in charge of the stock theming for our Charges? Who's decision was it to release a good phone on the market with a POOP BROWN COLOR SCHEME?! They should be fired!
And why does the battery life SUCK on this phone?! Why is it that we have to painstakingly calibrate the battery ourselves just to squeeze a days worth out of it? Samsung, I know you're trying to keep the costs down, but would it kill you to put a Li-Po battery in here or something?
Why does my 4G randomly drop to 3G, and then to 1X? Granted, somehow I've been seeing a lot less of this lately, but why did you let it happen in the first place?! Come on, that didn't happen to you ONCE during beta testing, Sammy?
Other than that, I am truly happy with this phone. I made the right decision when I upgraded.
I feel better after that rant; Feel free to vent some steam about your Charge in this thread; you therapist called, and he wants you to.
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1. Totally agree
2. meh, YMMV, maybe it is because I am coming from the fasicinate (I carried 2 extra batteries around to make it through 12 hours but I love the battery life on this puppy
3. I have rock solid 4G, very rarely does it go to 3G here in town. During testing I am sure they have their own tower they are sitting next to,
I love this phone but I too cannot stand the brown/orange theme. Is there any way to change it?
Regarding all android smartphones:
1. What happened to having dedicated Dial and End keys on our *phones*? I'd use that a lot more than a search key.
2. Why can't we get good voice control that just works! My old flip phone did this better.
3. How hard would it be to make data connections work on demand? Take it a step further than juice defender (which doesn't work on our phone anyway). Let us control what apps access the network and when. In the meantime, stop waisting precious battery life keeping data connected "just in case".
4. Build in working app + data backup already. The average user shouldn't have to worry about rooting just for this. Plus they wouldn't lose angry birds progress every time a verizon rep asks them to factory reset. ;-)
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OK, I'll join the rant....The dogs**t brown theme and the battery life are both items I can deal with. I just squint and buy extra batteries but the fact that my data connection is so dodgy drives me crazy! I am constantly getting "network error" msgs or just suddenly from solid 4G to absolutely no data without moving, watching everyone around me breezing along on the web. The fact that I can find myself in the center of Los Angeles and have no 4G, no 3G, no 1x, no data period is so pitiful.
Okay, I feel a little better.....
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No issues with any of that. Gummycharged GBE FTW!
(Ok, I do miss a notification LED)
Where the ****s the notification LED, they couldn't even put it on the dam galaxy S2! Let's hope the U.S. versions get it right.
I'll admit, the colors on TW3 suck some ween(well, TW3 in general sucks some ween) but apparently the brighter colors consume more battery because of the SA+ screen.
Battery life is alright.... IF YOU CALIBRATE & UNDERCLOCK. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT! Still better then the 4 hour battery life on my enV Touch, and that wasn't even a smartphone.
FROYO? REALLY? FROYO? COME ON, IT'S A DAM $300 PHONE.
I DONT LIKE THE PUZZLE UNLOCK SCREEN. It doesn't show the battery % and I can't switch to silent from the same screen like AOSP, and why the hell does it need to say Verizon Wireless ON THE DAM LOCK SCREEN!? I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FLASH SO MUCH **** JUST TO MAKE THIS PHONE GOOD.
Come on 4g, what the hell. I'm in a full 5 bar area and it still feels the need to drop to 3g. It's always happening when I'm browsing the web too, not when the phone is sleeping where 4g data wouldn't be necessary but when I'm ACTUALLY USING THE PHONE. 4G IS ****ING WITH ME.
and finally..... WHERE THE **** IS TW4. If this phone releases GB + TW4 + source then this phone will be ABSOLUTELY ****IN' FANTASTIC. It's funny, even with all the flaws this phone is still awesome. It would have been perfect if they just added/fixed the above things from the start. You're right, it does feel good to vent.
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You're right, it does feel good to vent.
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Feels good man...
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Schoat333 said:
No issues with any of that. Gummycharged GBE FTW!
(Ok, I do miss a notification LED)
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I actually had a lot of issues with GBE. Switched back to Froyo. But seriously, for a $600 phone I think they should be rolling out the updates. Also, give us the source code, dammit!
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Every other 199 phone is getting or has gotten GB and for us that have paid premium 299 for this phone and no GB? That's just crazy, we should send a email to Verizon or Samsung with complaints about this and have everyone here in the forum sign or put their emails in. Lets get gingerbread now
luvtorev said:
Every other 199 phone is getting or has gotten GB and for us that have paid premium 299 for this phone and no GB? That's just crazy, we should send a email to Verizon or Samsung with complaints about this and have everyone here in the forum sign or put their emails in. Lets get gingerbread now
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coming from a Fascinate that took months to get a froyo leak then more months to even get an official froyo OTA, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of update or source release for the Charge either... although as always many thanks to the devs and themers who made the Fassy amazing despite the lack of official support
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anoninja118 said:
coming from a Fascinate that took months to get a froyo leak then more months to even get an official froyo OTA, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of update or source release for the Charge either... although as always many thanks to the devs and themers who made the Fassy amazing despite the lack of official support
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Exactly my point, we "the devs" should not be working hard to make this a fast phone or better/smoother it should already be that way out of the box or with upgrades after paying premium for this phone. Remember it's not 199 like all other phones, it is 299 one hundred more than the rest of all other phones from any carriers out there. That is really upsetting. I had the droid inc 2 (199 with 50 mail in rebate, so really 150)for one week before I got the charge and it was a great little phone with the best battery life i have ever had plus it had been upgraded to gingerbread already (thinking about switching back to it). The Droid X, X2, droid 3, are all 199 and running the latest, but we paid 299 for lte and samoled screen but got stuck with froyo. That is really upsetting. I always read how samsung was really bad with updates but I thought this was one of their flagship phones so maybe it would get the upgrades but guess I was wrong, I'm sure it will come but way after everyone else.
ps: im not a dev just to clear up my first sentence, we as in customer
No issues with my phone after rooting and flashing what I want. Today I was losing only 2% battery per hour! I made 2 phone calls and texted a bunch. They do need to get us to GB quick and I wish it was a dual core phone. I'll be getting the Nexus 3 as soon as that comes out and this will be on eBay.
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1. What happened to having dedicated Dial and End keys on our *phones*? I'd use that a lot more than a search key.
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The (large) majority of smartphone users use their phones more for messaging and web usage than for voice calls. You're in a shrinking minority and it's simply in companies' best interests to cater to the majority of their users.
Its hard for me to relate here. I bought this phone because it is currently the easiest 4G LTE phone to customize. I never planned on keeping stock TW, and will never put it back on my phone, unless I sell it.
I could care less what samsung is doing, because we have plenty of great developers, that are doing way better.
I recommend anyone that hates the stock samsung experience flash a custom rom. You'll be a lot happier with this phone.
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Its hard for me to relate here. I bought this phone because it is currently the easiest 4G LTE phone to customize. I never planned on keeping stock TW, and will never put it back on my phone, unless I sell it.
I could care less what samsung is doing, because we have plenty of great developers, that are doing way better.
I recommend anyone that hates the stock samsung experience flash a custom rom. You'll be a lot happier with this phone.
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We all have custom roms here. Yes, our devs are great, but our roms could be so much better if we had source and official support. Yes, this is the current flagship 4G LTE phone, but it lacks common features of lesser phones!
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Exactly my point, we "the devs" should not be working hard to make this a fast phone or better/smoother it should already be that way out of the box or with upgrades after paying premium for this phone. Remember it's not 199 like all other phones, it is 299 one hundred more than the rest of all other phones from any carriers out there. That is really upsetting. I had the droid inc 2 (199 with 50 mail in rebate, so really 150)for one week before I got the charge and it was a great little phone with the best battery life i have ever had plus it had been upgraded to gingerbread already (thinking about switching back to it). The Droid X, X2, droid 3, are all 199 and running the latest, but we paid 299 for lte and samoled screen but got stuck with froyo. That is really upsetting. I always read how samsung was really bad with updates but I thought this was one of their flagship phones so maybe it would get the upgrades but guess I was wrong, I'm sure it will come but way after everyone else.
ps: im not a dev just to clear up my first sentence, we as in customer
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Well the Galaxy S line were samsung's flagship devices last year when they came out and it still took months and months even for official froyo (especially for the Fascinate) so just because the Charge is the latest and greatest from samsung (on verizon anyway) doesn't mean it'll get a ton of support out of the gate unfortunately... I know that 2.2 froyo was a huge improvement over 2.1 eclair so perhaps thats why it took so long, however 2.2 to gingerbread is not a major OS overhaul so hopefully that means we won't have to wait as long for 2.3 GB. I'd give it probably till the end of the year before we have GB and up to date source code.
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Well the Galaxy S line were samsung's flagship devices last year when they came out and it still took months and months even for official froyo (especially for the Fascinate) so just because the Charge is the latest and greatest from samsung (on verizon anyway) doesn't mean it'll get a ton of support out of the gate unfortunately... I know that 2.2 froyo was a huge improvement over 2.1 eclair so perhaps thats why it took so long, however 2.2 to gingerbread is not a major OS overhaul so hopefully that means we won't have to wait as long for 2.3 GB. I'd give it probably till the end of the year before we have GB and up to date source code.
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I see what you are saying but at the same time if what you say here, by the end of the year we should have GB and source, is true then we will still not be up to date because ice cream sandwich will be out and we will still be playing catching up with os. I guess it's all part of sells, just make phones and market well and move on....ahh why did i fall in love with android lol
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I am a bit bored from my vibrant - especially when it comes to speed (despite running MIUI rom, which is quite snappy compared to stock).
How's the blaze? Worth the hassle? Speed demon? Or just ok?
Here's my take. Kinda drunka and all.
I came from the original Mt3g. 528mhz. Always cyanogenmod though.
Super fast phone. Fast network. The benchmarks that I run place the Blaze way at the top, though I don't know much about that stuff.
Once the ICS update happens if it does, or if an ICS rom happens I'll be thrilled. The phone has plenty of horsepower for me at least.
Being that i upgraded from a Motorola Defy that was even overclocked and still sucked....yea this phone is pretty damn nice. Super fast and no issues with mine. I'm waiting to root and do V6 and all that until ICS comes out so I don't have to go back to stock and all those other things for the real update to work, even with the bloat it does not slow this phone down.
i also came from a vibrant, cm9 and all.
its not that much quicker IMO
if i didnt get this phone for completely free, and had to use my upgrade for it, i would not have gotten it.
i wish the dev community for this phone was stronger but its all good.
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i also came from a vibrant, cm9 and all.
its not that much quicker IMO
if i didnt get this phone for completely free, and had to use my upgrade for it, i would not have gotten it.
i wish the dev community for this phone was stronger but its all good.
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there is only two ways that is gunna happen, either people step forward and start making things work, or you reach out to devs
The vibrant is out dated and can't come close to touching the blaze/mini s2
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I am also coming from the Vibrant to this, due to my Vibrant not charging anymore. i had an upgrade and will be getting this in the mail by friday. Im also looking to root and flash a custom rom, since i have heard battery life is terrible. If anyone has any advice, please message me.
I kinda regret buying it. I didn't really research the community involvement on the phone, or even really the phone at all. I usually do, but in my situation my previous phone (nexus one) died suddenly, and unexpectedly. I pretty much had to get a phone that day, and I initially balked at the idea of getting a phone that was much larger than what I had.
But, I also wasn't really feeling like dishing out $400+ up front for a phone, so the Blaze was naturally a good option for me, especially since I do prefer GSM phones (cdma networks don't work too well in a lot of buildings I am commonly in) and I was getting fed up with AT&T's slow data speeds.
So it was pretty much between this or an S2, and at the time, the phone was just too large.
Now that I've had the phone for a week or so, running the same OS as my previous phone (one I had for 2 years) while it's true this phone is much faster, I find myself kinda wishing I would have been able to have more of a "wow omg" feeling after owning it.
In short, I'm starting a cash fund just to keep handy for whenever the new nexus line of phone is released. I really preferred stock android before, and I would definitely still prefer it now.
I'd like to see tmobile push out ICS for the phone pretty soon, but seriously, they loaded this thing with so many junk apps, sometimes 2 or 3 apps that do the same freaking thing that android already does, so I'm thinking it's going to be 2 years before they actually push ICS to this phone.
I have removed a lot of the apps with titanium backup pro, but it makes NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL why a carrier would put so much crap on the phone. For crying out loud if I use the stock launcher that doesn't have the ability to hide apps you don't want to see, it took a good 2 minutes just to freaking find what you wanted!
I like being able to flash roms and customize my phone and im worried there isnt going to be much developer interest in this. The S2 was also too large for my liking, and I chose this last minute after my vibrant stopped charging.
What I dont understand is, why are people who dont even have this phone making roms for it? So far theres only 2 and neither of them work. Go figure....
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What I dont understand is, why are people who dont even have this phone making roms for it? So far theres only 2 and neither of them work. Go figure....
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I'm guessing because it seems like the number of users with this phone is rather small. There's lots of reasons for it. It's a new model, didn't it come out in March?
It's also available only on Tmobile, and reviewers do nothing but dump the phone in the lower tier bracket because there's nothing "special" about it. They are always like, "meh, it's not tablet sized, so who cares!"
Even the model number is confusing as all get out, not even Tmobile themselves can consistently distinguish between it and the other Samsung phones.
Good phone just as fast as the Galaxy S2 T989 just a smaller screen size otherwize specs are almost exactly the same except for the camera is a little better in the Galaxy S2.
i just picked up the galaxy s blaze as well from my friend. i have a quick question though. Does anyone else have a slight issue with the power button being a bit loose when pressed in towards the button?
I kinda wish I had the Blaze along with my S II. If I did, i would be using the Blaze almost all the time because it does the same thing that the S II does, but in a smaller design. LOL. You guys should be proud because some of the S II owners use the Blaze's modem. I use it. It's so much faster and better. I give the Blaze some Love.
So odd and random but i noticed today on T Mobile that the Vibrant is now listed as a phone to buy in the phones/upgrade section again lol and since I got my Blaze and have no discount they still think they are gonna get someone to pay 379 for that outdated POS..must have found some stashed in their inventory haha
Honestly, the A2 has great performance, it is not top of the line, but it is certainly pretty high end. It has a decent feel overall, but still know one knows about it. Why is this?!!? I'm not even talking strictly from a development standpoint, as it is just so unheard of. everyone knows about the whole droid line and such, but our great phone is completely neglected. There is no way i'm the only one that is bothered by this, especially because there is so much potential in our phone. I know the locked bootloader, makes things difficult, but a way around that is near, so do y'all think development will take off once we get it bypassed or unlocked? Thanks for listening to my rant and feel free to give your own opinion
Motorola or Att did not push this phone like they did with the original Atrix. Most people are going with samsung (sgs2 or the note). That is why we do not have very many devs. Samsung phone are much easier to work with. I know because i have one. If no one else decides to get this phone that's fine with me. I like the phone as is. Im also happy with the few devs we have. Their work is greatly appreciated.
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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you aren't the only one. It pisses me off. I always have service on this phone, for the most part it's fast and smooth, and the ROM support is becoming awesome. Yet still people don't know the name of my phone , they just know it's "big"
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
Motorola did not advertise or really let ANYONE know that the phone was being released. For example, when I walked into the AT&T store with a $100 and a contract renewal, I just browsed/tried all of the phones they had in stock, and happend to like the feature set/performance of the Atrix 2 the best. The funny part is that I had NO idea that the phone actually came out the day before and was just put on display. Luckily the phone is great and the community to go along with it is even greater.
Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Freezing apps does wonders for performance + battery life. I use Titanium Backup for this. All the "junk apps" that Motorola/AT&T installed (that I don't use) get frozen.
The End.
Some of our roms are great, but there are only 4 or 5 or something, it would be nice to see some of the big ones like cm7. hopefully an unlocked BL and ICS will spark some serious development. I think the biggest problem is the lack of serious developers. Who do we really have? Jimbridgman, lfabor06, and Rdavisct are the only ones I can really think of off the top of my head. We all play a role, but only the true genius' like them do a lot of good towards roms and things
To buy an Atrix 2, I had to special order it from Amazon. The local places didn't sell it because it didn't work with LTE in the area, and were mainly pushing iStuff.
Motorola needs to wake up and start tooting their own horn. The Atrix 2 has been an excellent phone, both in the reception department (better voice and call quality than my HTC and iPhone), CPU department, and in general usage.
Plus, there is an untapped market for these types of phones -- business people who just need a basic laptop where all their data is stored securely at one place, either on the phone with the on device encryption (or SD encryption), or using a Citrix receiver.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
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This really is the truth of the matter. Until we can load custom kernels on the A2, the devs are kinda limited on what they can modify. ICS with a locked bootloader is not much better than GB with a locked bootloader.
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy and the A2 is better in almost every area; reception, interface, speaker...
It's frustrating hearing all the fuss over the Mecha yet HTC doesn't even want to support their device. Sad really, especially if you can't afford another device
I honestly believe the reason the Mecha didn't get the update was due to Verizon, not HTC. I think HTC took the time to make the update, then it went to Verizon's metaphorical desk and sat there. If Verizon can convince existing members to upgrade, they will do it. The more your software gets updated, the less money they make. Stupid, greedy, marketing ploy in my opinion.
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I'm not sure what the fuss is about? I've run several ICS ROMs and there's really nothing to get excited about.
One important note, ICS will come (if and when it does come) with Sense 3.6 which is almost exactly the same as Sense 3.5 in the Eternity ROM and the BAMF ROM. Sense 4.x is a big change but ICS won't include it for the T'bolt(due maybe to insufficient memory?) In short, you won't see much difference.
My phone works just fine, it does everything I ask it to do and does it well.
FWIW, I'm running a Gingerbread ROM, Virus' excellent Eternity 8-4 and I'm staying with it, even after ICS is released, unless it's updated to some of the ICS features AND Sense 4.x!
I think the timing of people "abandoning ship" has as much to do with contracts coming up than anything else. That said, the lack of ongoing support for what HTC and Verizon positioned as the performance leader (at least at the time, and certainly as its first LTE phone) is what many are voicing frustration about. Combine that with technology consumers' typical desire to have what is "latest and greatest" and it isn't surprising that folks are looking at alternatives like DNA, S3, Note, N4, etc.
Me... I am happy enough with a stable phone that browses, gets and sends emails, and gets through a full day and evening on a charge. Sure, I'd like better battery life. More so, a better screen (bigger, brighter, sharper). Like a thinner form factor that is lighter. Would really like it to be able to display to a TV easily too. But a famous bike designer named Keith Bontrager had a famous saying when people came to him with requests for the "perfect" bike... "Strong. Light. Cheap. Pick Two." I suspect we will always being looking for the perfect phone and be forced to make our choice based on what is most important (and compromise on what we can do without).
btw, I have tried at least one of the ICS ROMs. And while it was a very good ROM through great work by the designer, the fact that they are all based on the same leak seems to limit what can be done or expected with them, and so those phones with ICS (or better yet, Jelly Bean) will always seem better. I can't afford a new phone now anyway... so hopefully when I can the newer phones will be closer to my ideal of perfect is.
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I'm not sure what the fuss is about? I've run several ICS ROMs and there's really nothing to get excited about.
One important note, ICS will come (if and when it does come) with Sense 3.6 which is almost exactly the same as Sense 3.5 in the Eternity ROM and the BAMF ROM. Sense 4.x is a big change but ICS won't include it for the T'bolt(due maybe to insufficient memory?) In short, you won't see much difference.
My phone works just fine, it does everything I ask it to do and does it well.
FWIW, I'm running a Gingerbread ROM, Virus' excellent Eternity 8-4 and I'm staying with it, even after ICS is released, unless it's updated to some of the ICS features AND Sense 4.x!
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The big deal for me is compatibility. More and more apps these days are requiring 4.0 and up. But really, I only ran the ICS Sense builds once and hated them - horrible battery drain, lag, etc. I've been running AOSP builds since they had working data as a DD, and even with the bugs, these ROMs perform better, IMHO than the AOSP GB ROMs did.
I'm selling my gs3 and getting the tbolt again. The gs3 is nice but too much for me. I could use the money anyway. I personally love the thunderbolt.
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I will be voting with my dollars, and loudly telling Verizon that their behavior regarding the Thunderbolt has been unacceptable.
I will be leaving them ASAP, and encouraging as many people as possible to defect, depriving VZW of cash flow. It's a tiny amount, but hopefully disgruntled former customers will make their voices heard.
I was skeptical about returning to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Their betrayal has me convinced that I was right to mistrust Verizon.
Never again. Bastards.
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I will be voting with my dollars, and loudly telling Verizon that their behavior regarding the Thunderbolt has been unacceptable.
I will be leaving them ASAP, and encouraging as many people as possible to defect, depriving VZW of cash flow. It's a tiny amount, but hopefully disgruntled former customers will make their voices heard.
I was skeptical about returning to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Their betrayal has me convinced that I was right to mistrust Verizon.
Never again. Bastards.
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Want to take advantage of Verizon's excellent network (no comparison in my area) for pennies on the dollar of what they charge? Page plus is a reseller that piggybacks on Verizons network. You can tell VZW to go f__k themselves permanently (with my light usage I went from $90 a month on verizon to $12 a month on page plus) and only had to send in my TBolt for some non rom flash thing that they had back to me in less than a week. I cancelled my VZW plan and paid the $250 penalty and have already recouped my costs. I was even able to keep the same number I had with Verizon. The only disadvantages are no LTE (lol on Thunderbolt no 30 min handwarmer) and their maximum data plan is 2 gig data a month. Truly not a shill and would keep this to myself so deal doesn't change in future but the whole VZW TBolt thing has p_ssed me off.
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Yeah this has left a bad taste in my mouth for non nexus phones, but unfortunately verizon is the only real option for my area.
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Yeah this has left a bad taste in my mouth for non nexus phones, but unfortunately verizon is the only real option for my area.
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Page plus cellular uses VZW network for a lot lower bills so they are an option where ever VZW is as long as you don't need LTE.
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dumas777 said:
Page plus cellular uses VZW network for a lot lower bills so they are an option where ever VZW is as long as you don't need LTE.
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I like twisted's ICS Rom, works pretty good and constantly getting better. I will be upgrading next year though.
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I like twisted's ICS Rom, works pretty good and constantly getting better. I will be upgrading next year though.
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I agree that twisted's ICS rom works very well. I have been using it now since it came out. It is very responsive and works 100%. Also there is constant support for it updates are always coming out.
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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If you're interested in someone doing any testing, I would be happy to test it.
Also, you guys made me appreciate what we've got, thank you
I also love my TB and I have compared it to other phones. This is my first Android phone but I've had experience with the DROID 2 and the SGS3. I do love the S3's bigger screen however but even after I get another phone I will be keeping this phone.
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Turd Furguson said:
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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Twisted's (credit also to liquid) rom does rule and makes continuing to the use the TBolt viable for at least some time. The ICS leak and derivatives are not ready to be dd imho plus sense sucks. I don't want to blow $300 (screw contracts) on another phone any time soon so nothing but props to Twisted.
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Twisted's (credit also to liquid) rom does rule and makes continuing to the use the TBolt viable for at least some time. The ICS leak and derivatives are not ready to be dd imho plus sense sucks. I don't want to blow $300 (screw contracts) on another phone any time soon so nothing but props to Twisted.
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Haven't tried any of his builds yet. The way people are raving might have to give it a shot. Been stuck on t-shed 1.5, it has been to rock solid to try anything new.
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Im thinking Nexus 4 on straighttalk if i dont get ICS By the end of the year on my thunderbolt im skipping and upgrading and ill finally be able to tell verizon to kiss my ass. I actually think ill start paying yearly and pay straighttalk off fo a year and save even more money.
Not everyone is jumping ship.... Some are just boarding...
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