Be Quick(for you and milestone) , buy ADWLauncher EX now!!! - Motorola Milestone Android Development

I'm not a developer nor agent from ADW but as you know I'm just a milestone user.
The EX version is now selling at $0.1 and it is much better than the free version!!
Use less ram and more handy.
The system become much faster , no more ram-lag.
the promotion is for 24hours only.
https://market.android.com/details?id=apps_timed_promotion&feature=banner
my 2 cents.

mathk said:
Use less ram and more handy.
The system become much faster , no more ram-lag.
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Can you please post output of
Code:
procrank
command run from command-line (in adb shell or terminal on phone)?
I'd like to see the real numbers for comparison. Thanks.

Here's mine - is it enough? Newest CM7 7.1.1, newest GApps, just after installation and configuration of ADW EX.

I don't know if it uses less ram but it looks like ICS and has more customizations

kabaldan said:
Can you please post output of
Code:
procrank
command run from command-line (in adb shell or terminal on phone)?
I'd like to see the real numbers for comparison. Thanks.
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I just feel that... It seems that the memory used shown in "running" tab is less. May be I'm wrong.
again, need to give you a big five for the long term support of milestone.

Code:
PID Vss Rss Pss Uss cmdline
2108 56704K 53476K 33523K 29804K system_server
2217 29468K 29440K [B]12070K[/B] 10156K com.android.launcher //ADW
PID Vss Rss Pss Uss cmdline
2085 59548K 56284K 37490K 32884K system_server
5013 35528K 35504K [B]18670K[/B] 16584K org.adwfreak.launcher //ADW EX
EX seems to use more RAM.
Of course, RAM usage is a dynamic process, so one number taken at a random time does not tell the whole picture (it depends on what the app is currently doing, how it is configured, whether GC has been recently run, how big the VM heap size limit is...).

I do not know, if it uses less RAM.
But I can say that: I have tried a lot of launchers and that one feels the swiftest.
Go Launcher EX is very good, but ADWLauncher EX is more responsive.
It is worth the 10 Cent, even more. Bought it back than for full price. I do not regret it.

Hmmm, maybe it uses more RAM than regular ADW, but I'm sure that it is better - nearly as smooth as Launcher Pro. Has many configuration options etc. I think that's not bad for 10 cents

I have been using zeam for a couple of months now and I think it is the lightest available ramwise...

Ahh it seems that I missed the launcher, but the promotion is still going on. Got a couple of games for a dime each. Thanks OP i didn't know about this at all.

Bought it!
Thanks man.. bought it immediately.. its smooth
This is the 2nd App I am buying.. The 1st one is PowerAMP.. and its my default music player, i deleted the android music app and dsp manager..
running on CM7.1.1 (2.3.7)..

thanks man! bought it

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[APP 2.1+] System Tuner

Dear users,
Considering all 3C apps are now based on the same source code, they all behave the same way, and will exhibit the same issues. Any queries will also likely applies to all apps.
To make my life easier while continuing to provide support here (and start with a clean slate), I decided to close all my app threads and open a fresh new thread here.
With your continuous help and support, the past 4 years have been a great adventure and experience. Let's take a fresh start and continue this amazing adventure.
Thank you all!
We're working on System Tuner version 3.0. Beta testing should be available soon, stay tuned.
Please check this for a 3-in-1 integrated app: ANDROID TUNER.
ANDROID TUNER IS NOT A REPLACEMENT APP BUT AN INTEGRATION OF ALL 3C APPS AND MANY OTHER
There are 2 options for existing users wishing to use the integrated version:
1) you can use Android Tuner Free which unlocks all already paid features from Battery Monitor Widget Pro and System Tuner Pro (except widgets)
2) or you can use a discount on Android Tuner paid version with this migration offer, note however we can no longer refund old apps as before because refund policy on Play Store have changed since December 20th
We're currently using Android Tuner's existing source code to rebuild BMW and ST from scratch, this is a lot of work and requires a lot of manual handling to avoid these:
- A 10MB APK instead of today's 2MB APK.
- A near-bug-free experience, beta testing will run for a long time with selected users, depending on users' feedback and app usage.
- Accurate data migration for user switching from 2.x to 3.0 without data loss.
- Removing features from BMW without breaking the app (battery data)
- Keeping a low memory footprints splitting UI and services components
- Keeping app performance as high as possible (version checks at run time)
- Removing features using new permissions without breaking the app (sms, contacts, etc). More than 20 permission in AT!
Note that the above is very complex and represents a lot of work, so it will take time before 3.0 is actually published.
More coming soon, stay tuned.
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how can i get this?
mortuus82 said:
how can i get this?
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Available on the Market, search either 'Process Monitor Widget' or '3c06'
found it in market, but the download won't start...
totalz said:
found it in market, but the download won't start...
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Did you succeed downloading the app? I had download problems in Market with certain ROM, never found why... maybe it's related?
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Did you succeed downloading the app? I had download problems in Market with certain ROM, never found why... maybe it's related?
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Could be because of the customized rom, I'm a newbie with x10, just installed the blue spark rom on my 2nd day use, because of the flop score... I tried all day yesterday downloading the widget, search the web for fixes, but no, the download just won't start (or finish)! Really want to try this app to see cpu mhz & usage on "front panel"!
I even used the SDK and emulate avd to download the file...
May be u would consider posting it here? Oh, I even installed Slide 4.0, but they don't have your app, may be u can post there as an alternative? Can download there no problem, just tried aiSystem.
totalz said:
May be u would consider posting it here? Oh, I even installed Slide 4.0, but they don't have your app, may be u can post there as an alternative? Can download there no problem, just tried aiSystem.
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Hello totalz,
Sorry for the late reply, I've been quite busy lately.
I'd rather email it to you, so I don't have old versions to update here and there in the future. PM me for my email or directly from Google Market.
Great app.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks and has alot of info in a tiny 1x1 space.
I put free memory on top, cpu speed at the bottom, cpu load and free internal memory on the sides.
zeppelinrox said:
Great app.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks and has alot of info in a tiny 1x1 space.
I put free memory on top, cpu speed at the bottom, cpu load and free internal memory on the sides.
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@ you and @ Dev
How does this affect batterylife?
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thanx dude
Any thoughts about combining your battery monitor widget functions and tying the battery consumption to the process? Maybe I'm over(under)thinking it, but being able to see graphically process history vs battery consumption per process would be very helpful to narrowing down inefficient apps.
Cheers
Nice app! Thanks!
nice
Works fine !
Thanks !
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Any thoughts about combining your battery monitor widget functions and tying the battery consumption to the process? Maybe I'm over(under)thinking it, but being able to see graphically process history vs battery consumption per process would be very helpful to narrowing down inefficient apps.
Cheers
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That would be nice....
Work fine on my phone/rom.
Thanks, nice little app. Also like your battery widget app as well
Nice app - great job! Will try it out for a bit before buying the ad free version, but it seems pretty cool!
Nice app.
Working well on HD2 running NAND NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9G.
Sweet app... my Evo runs noticeably smoother.
Looks nice .. Trying it out, thanks

Applications autorun in the background after 2.3.5 upgrade.

Hi,
I followed adixtra's tutorial and upgraded my O3D to 2.3.5 Europe open, and i must admit that this was the best and the flawless tutorial that i had ever read.
But after installing the new firmware i have noticed that many applications start by themselves in the background, I have the app manager widget running and with 2.2 it never used to report any running applications other than the ones that i manually start, but of late i can see upto 7 and sometimes 15 applications which reduce the available ram to around 40 Mb and i need to stop all of them manually.
I just wanted to check if this has to do with me flashing a unbranded firmware on an optus unlocked phone?
BTW the network reception has increased manifold and the phone by itself has improved, just that the applications autorunning is not giving me an improved battery life as gingerbread was supposed to. I still only manage to get 1 day of juice on a 2G network with minimal surfing/games and music.
Can someone suggest what might be my problem here? Also another strange thing is that when i look at the battery status in the applications--> battery use, the summary on top is garbage... even if the phone runs for 12 hrs on battery the summary shows something like 4mxxsec. but on clicking it the graph has the actual battery run time listed.
is anyone else also facing this? or i am the owner of a Unique O3D , this is not impacting any functionality though.
Thanks
Kris.
Yes, it seems like my phone also autostarts apps but i didn't notced, and i have the same problem with the battery statistics. ****, we waited for 4 months for official update and I still feel like i have installed a custom rom...
Sent from my LG-P920
Everyone have battery bug.. And bg apps also
I've got exact same problem! App manager widget and anywhere between 5-9apps running constantly and not got any increase in battery life.My O3D is a UK open one which I flashed with kdz with tutorial on here.Seriously thinking about rooting with custom Rom see if that helps with battery.
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For those worried about ram. I would assume the ram is filling up because that's how ram works in linux/android. Empty ram is wasted ram, the phone is supposed to load your most used and recent apps. When you fresh install it loads what it thinks you will be using and adjusts over time, this makes your phone actually load programs faster. Free memory doesn't speed up anything, this isn't windows. In fact if you have to constantly load apps from phone memory you are draining your battery more than if your apps were loading from ram. You want your apps to be in ram. Just because an app is loaded in ram doesn't actually mean it is running. It is sitting there idle not using any cpu at all waiting for the user to call that app up. If you just leave task managers off your phone and let android do what it is supposed to you will see much better performance over time. At first you might not see much, that's because the system hasn't learned what apps you use the most yet. Soon it will load most used apps and everything you do will be much quicker and you battery will end up lasting longer because apps are loading from ram not storage. I NEVER use task killers and I have no problems with ram at all. You are all used to the crappy way windows handles ram, this is linux it uses ram COMPLETELY different. Trust me just forget about the task killers, use something like v6supercharger or a boot.img with tweaks built in and forget about it. You will notice over time your phone will be smooth.
It isn't a bug, it is better ram management. If it is a bug then that's a surprise because it is a bug that is doing what linux is supposed to which means the bug is actually helping you.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
i'm using v6supercharged v8 with 7 option,but i can't see any different and free ram is still the same.
i saw there is a v9rc4 but i can't install it because i dont know if home il locked in or not.
Thanks For clarifying that Urabewe, was not aware of that, have removed the task manager widget, hopefully my O3D would have a good learning curve

System Tuner Pro > SetCPU

Indeed it is better... ive used setCPU for since i first starting modding, and recently a friend turned me onto SystemTunerPRO & i gotta say its a million times better!
OC's ALWAYS stay, never gets killed by the system, UV's correctly, and has awesome organization!
Has the ability to controll what apps launch on boot, control memory usage, edit the MinFree settings, adjust the task-killer, just wow... yeah too much to say.
I suggest this WAY OVER setCPU... you should check it out...
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNjYzcxLnBtdy5wcm8iXQ..
(if you dont want to pay the measly $5... Google for it)
-or if you use something better... tell us about it.
Imho, if you like the app and use it, you should just pay for it. The author has put time and effort into the product that has benefited you. The money he gets may inspire him to make more or better products.
Bought this immediately.
It trumps; Taskiller, SetCPU, Startup Auditor & Titanium Backup. I've uninstalled all off those.
It's an all-in-one interface with very simple and direct options. Not recommended for Android newbs. This can and will brick your **** if you don't know what you're doing. I love it. Excellent app.
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Voltage Control also works well.
Brainze said:
Bought this immediately.
It trumps; Taskiller, SetCPU, Startup Auditor & Titanium Backup. I've uninstalled all off those.
It's an all-in-one interface with very simple and direct options. Not recommended for Android newbs. This can and will brick your **** if you don't know what you're doing. I love it. Excellent app.
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1. task killers kill your battery, not your tasks
- by killing tasks, you are forcing android to kill then reload applications that would normally save more battery by being left in system memory (this removes the need to reload data)
2. what about system tuner pro makes it better than TiBU??
Simba501 said:
Voltage Control works very well also.
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3. yes. VC is by far the easiest to use and if you use it correctly(usually by itself), you will have no problems
4. system tuner is a heavy user of system resource...the ONLY feature i've found that it has that others dont (at least i havent found a replacement yet) is its ability to display current CPU frequency...i used system tuner pro alot when i was undervolting my cpu and stress testing so i could see how hard the phone was working
The *Nix philosophy: Do one thing and do it well. I used System Tuner and found it's interface to be awful/ugly, and didn't really fulfill any need that a more focused app didn't. System Tuner really can't do all the things TiBu can, and voltage settings should never be "killed" by your phone since they're written to file.
I still prefer SetCPU. I like an app to be organized and the one you recommend is not. It's messy and sloppy.
There is NO backup app that comes close to being as perfect and bad ass as Titanium Backup.
Can't get STP to save on reboot completed
Hope this thread still attracts some attention, so I don't have to clutter up threads with a new on on same program
Using Bricked V5 kernel and Insert Coin Sense 4 Beta 12 ROM
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
Can anyone tell me how to overcome this. In particular I want STP to work over restarts, so I can tweak voltages as well as clock speeds
Edit: Oh dang I found this thread searching for STP, and overlooked it is a Samsung thread,. Doh!. Will repost in Sensation forum
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Hope this thread still attracts some attention, so I don't have to clutter up threads with a new on on same program
Using Bricked V5 kernel and Insert Coin Sense 4 Beta 12 ROM
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
Can anyone tell me how to overcome this. In particular I want STP to work over restarts, so I can tweak voltages as well as clock speeds
Edit: Oh dang I found this thread searching for STP, and overlooked it is a Samsung thread,. Doh!. Will repost in Sensation forum
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lol.
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scottx . said:
I still prefer SetCPU. I like an app to be organized and the one you recommend is not. It's messy and sloppy.
There is NO backup app that comes close to being as perfect and bad ass as Titanium Backup.
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TB dev started developping this app when Android started existing and receives a lot of support from Google. Yes it's far more advanced: the only feature that STP doesn't have (yet ) is the multi-version backups.
Messy and sloppy... Maybe, a matter of opinion and taste. No question on that.
jesterpaul said:
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
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Interesting... Have you contacted the devs of those apps to see if they can help? When you tested these, did you kept all 3 apps installed and configured?
I believe everyone is entitled to have preference, but know one thing for all 3 devs it's the same complexity: every kernel, every phone behaves differently. Not to mention ROMs or even possible user errors.
And as you have a Sensation, STP was partly developped on this device, and this device requires a specific work-around to be able to read and write CPU settings!
If you do want STP to work and are willing to spend a little time investigating, contact the dev I know him and he will do everything to help (I know cause it's me).
adalgiso said:
The *Nix philosophy: Do one thing and do it well. I used System Tuner and found it's interface to be awful/ugly, and didn't really fulfill any need that a more focused app didn't. System Tuner really can't do all the things TiBu can, and voltage settings should never be "killed" by your phone since they're written to file.
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2 philosophy: some users prefers all in one apps, some prefers app that focus on one thing.
My 2 cents: the more apps, the more consumption you get. The worth example is apps reading battery data... If you have one that reads it ok, if you have 5 apps: 5 times the consumption.
Noted a user saying a task killer is bad: if you know how to configure it it's much better than the Android integrated one which will kill widget apps at will and blindly or even apps you use frequently but will always leave Google's app running even you never use them!
And STP can configure its own task-killer and the OOM Android integrated one.
STP is less than one year old, and is only my second app in Java and on Android. Still a lot to add to it, and still some imperfections, but working on it.
Now I fully understand all opinions expressed here. They are very reasonable too.
Let's meet in a year from now and see if I can change your opinion on this.
In the mean time, enjoy your apps or my apps preferably
I have grown to like all in one apps, such as this (system tuner) there is another that I'd like to point out called ROM toolbox, I use it for everything, back up apps, root browser, ad manager, boot animation installer, voltage controller, mem controller, ect. It's nearly got a function for everything, and I think people should take a look at it, it's nice, and all my stuff would be lost without it
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Looking for tweaks for system tuner pro.
I'm using system tuner pro on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really enjoy it so far. I also use Titanium Backup and SetCPU which both do exactly what I need them to. I use stp mainly for the ability to monitor my cpu, memory, ect. I am looking for tweaks to set to get my tablet running even smoother. Right now I'm running stock HC 3.2 ROM with pershoot's kernel oc to 1.4ghz. What can I do in stp to optimize my settings further? Changes to governor, on demand? SD cache size and IO scheduler? That type of thing. I would appreciate any helpful tips especially since the developer has been on this thread and seems to be very helpful. Thanks.
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I'm using system tuner pro on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really enjoy it so far. I also use Titanium Backup and SetCPU which both do exactly what I need them to. I use stp mainly for the ability to monitor my cpu, memory, ect. I am looking for tweaks to set to get my tablet running even smoother. Right now I'm running stock HC 3.2 ROM with pershoot's kernel oc to 1.4ghz. What can I do in stp to optimize my settings further? Changes to governor, on demand? SD cache size and IO scheduler? That type of thing. I would appreciate any helpful tips especially since the developer has been on this thread and seems to be very helpful. Thanks.
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You can find some tips to get you started here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/64#main-content-area
3c said:
You can find some tips to get you started here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/64#main-content-area
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Thanks was looking for a site to learn more about this app! I am a new user to the andriod platform and find this app a great resource. Thanks for the great app and keep up the great work. :good:
Cheers
p.s. I have the Pro version
Great App thankyou .
I'm new-ish to using this as my main control app,although I bought it over a year ago,but unless your almost Of dev standard it can get a bit confusing, it's looking and is easier to use now smart phone screens are alot bigger.
I do still use T.B for certain things it is already setup with old backups and cloud feature use,I realize this app can do most but I've always used T.B.
Anyway my question probably easy but I'm using a dual core cpu but can't find how to change cpu1, I can change cpu 0 and see the frequecies for both but only the sliders for cpu0!
I've just thought my phone is rooted but locked bootloader so maybe because I'm using stock kernel maybe it's only letting me change 1cpu?
Its not even showing sliders for 2nd cpu though . e
Any help appreciated.
I'll probably need more help but I want to get this sorted 1st .
Since I stopped using multi task killers ,auto memory killer pro,cpu control (set cpu ) n so on, now using System Tuner Pro, Juice Defender Plus and Tit Backup Pro that's all I'm able to find then address issues so much easier.
Also Dev is very helpful ,I left Comment on play review and was emailed within a day ,so thanks A1 customer service .Thank dev and any one who can help me.
thank you for your mind bendingly difficult work on this app!
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TB dev started developping this app when Android started existing and receives a lot of support from Google. Yes it's far more advanced: the only feature that STP doesn't have (yet ) is the multi-version backups.
Messy and sloppy... Maybe, a matter of opinion and taste. No question on that.
Interesting... Have you contacted the devs of those apps to see if they can help? When you tested these, did you kept all 3 apps installed and configured?
I believe everyone is entitled to have preference, but know one thing for all 3 devs it's the same complexity: every kernel, every phone behaves differently. Not to mention ROMs or even possible user errors.
And as you have a Sensation, STP was partly developped on this device, and this device requires a specific work-around to be able to read and write CPU settings!
If you do want STP to work and are willing to spend a little time investigating, contact the dev I know him and he will do everything to help (I know cause it's me).
2 philosophy: some users prefers all in one apps, some prefers app that focus on one thing.
My 2 cents: the more apps, the more consumption you get. The worth example is apps reading battery data... If you have one that reads it ok, if you have 5 apps: 5 times the consumption.
Noted a user saying a task killer is bad: if you know how to configure it it's much better than the Android integrated one which will kill widget apps at will and blindly or even apps you use frequently but will always leave Google's app running even you never use them!
And STP can configure its own task-killer and the OOM Android integrated one.
STP is less than one year old, and is only my second app in Java and on Android. Still a lot to add to it, and still some imperfections, but working on it.
Now I fully understand all opinions expressed here. They are very reasonable too.
Let's meet in a year from now and see if I can change your opinion on this.
In the mean time, enjoy your apps or my apps preferably
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DEEEZZO!! Damn Dogs, yall just got served! HAHAHA:laugh:
seriously though, I know this is an older thread, hopefully someone listening. I had some questions about what a few thing meant in system tuner pro...which I think is a super hero app. I have only recently discovered that my lg thrill is a power and complicated device, even though I,ve had for over a year. before it was just a really cool phone. In the past two months I have bricked I have bricked on of my phones or the other
11 times-i bought another one so i wouldn't have to worry about not having a phone-half a dozen of those times was exploring system tuner settings. while I am a pro at flashing and recovery, i know virtually nothing about my device, and would love to know what some of these settings do. how to optimize her for each of the different ways I use her. that said, what is the difference between default and recommended setting in sys con?
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DEEEZZO!! Damn Dogs, yall just got served! HAHAHA:laugh:
seriously though, I know this is an older thread, hopefully someone listening. I had some questions about what a few thing meant in system tuner pro...which I think is a super hero app. I have only recently discovered that my lg thrill is a power and complicated device, even though I,ve had for over a year. before it was just a really cool phone. In the past two months I have bricked I have bricked on of my phones or the other
11 times-i bought another one so i wouldn't have to worry about not having a phone-half a dozen of those times was exploring system tuner settings. while I am a pro at flashing and recovery, i know virtually nothing about my device, and would love to know what some of these settings do. how to optimize her for each of the different ways I use her. that said, what is the difference between default and recommended setting in sys con?
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The default is what's been configured on the Kernel installed, either by manufacturer or dev on XDA. The recommended is actually some settings that have "proven" to work on most devices. Make sure to have a NANDROID backup or a way to recover in case it doesn't work for you. Once applied you can review the changes (they appear in blue) and reset them as you wish. It also resets completely on reboot to be safe, until you press the 'on boot' button to restore them on each reboot.
PS: If you like System Tuner, you might love Android Tuner, the merging of System Tuner and Battery Monitor Widget. If so there's a special offer/discount for existing users.
In the market? Or can I purchase direct from your site (preferred).
What is the function of the I/O scheduler and the difference between noop/deadline/cfq?
BTW, I don't just like STP I love it! I'm constantly fiddling with it. Seems like a very complicated project. I will get the other after I submit this post and check it out. Thanks bro!
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In the market? Or can I purchase direct from your site (preferred).
What is the function of the I/O scheduler and the difference between noop/deadline/cfq?
BTW, I don't just like STP I love it! I'm constantly fiddling with it. Seems like a very complicated project. I will get the other after I submit this post and check it out. Thanks bro!
Sent from my LG-P925g using xda app-developers app
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Most of my apps can only be purchased on Play Market for now. Android Tuner is available on SlideME now, which offers various payment methods (PayPal, Amazon, etc).
I used to sell on AndroidPIT, but they are very bad for business so I stopped, and I would strongly recommend not to purchase with them, only means troubles. SlideME offers guarantees like on PlayStore, which AP doesn't.
That said, I might publish my other apps on SlideME if it turns out well.
As for IO scheduler, it's the way the kernel will organize (schedule) IO operations on SD cards, noop, deadline and cfq are the most frequently available and used. deadline is said to be the most effective in a multi-tasking environment, whereas noop might create lags in some circumstances. Opinion and experiences differ largely, so might be best to test them.
PS: I would be happy to sell direct, but that requires an infrastructure I don't have. Relying on PlayStore or other distributor makes it easy to publish and also distributes updates.
Thank you sir, the only reason I was wondering about an alternative place of purchase is because, well long story short, my buddy shared a launcher apk with me and the play store got into my phone and froze not only the app, but my whole phone. After reboot all was fine minus the app. I guess it seemed kind of like a search and siezure with out a warrant. I felt a bit slighted and thought I would run an experiment and see if I can produce a comparable experience with all my various types of tech mediums without a single shred of google interface of any kind....I have to admit, it is not easy, they have really intertwined themselves with eanything. No, I'm not paranoid, just trying something new.
BTW, GOOD FN JOB WITH AT!!! Quite an amazing job you have done, any others besides the two? You ought somehow do a game of sorts, like an android app building or developer challenge/puzzle type thing with the purpose of training greenhorns interested in learning and honing veteran skills as well. Sorry for the spam, again thanks, and nice work.
Ps, I did relapse a lil and purchase AT from google...sshhh, don't tell anyone!haha
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Lagfree

Was it wrong to expect this device to be totally lag free when I bought it?
I notice the occasional lag when opening applications, anyone else?
Every tablet/phone has its quirks at first.
That being said, I do see the lag on my tablet. Does it bother me? A little. Does it hinder the rest of my experience? Not really.
I personally dnt really care, that's what Android's Open Source and Custom ROM's are for
As long as we have an unlocked bootloader and have some chance for a custom ROM (being derived from stock, or AOSP) I'm ok.
Now don't get me wrong. We as customers *should*, in a way, expect a minimal lag, if not NO lag, at all from Samsungs products? Why? They're currently the biggest Mobile manufacturer and most of their products are (should be) reputable. Have they delived? Not really (or atleast not YET).
I'd say we wait for ICS to come around to actually check for "lag" and criticize them about it. Although Sammy makes some nice products, they aren't the best at software updates (timewise that is, HTC is pretty quick to push updates, but they're updates seem more buggy than Sammy's longer taking updates. More time=more polished update IMO)
But to all his own
/EndRant
My point: We should be experiencing the LEAST amount of lag, if not NO lag at all. Some lag is tolerable, but Samsung needs to get their coding department going...they seem to be slackin'! :thumbdown:
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I don't think it's wrong to expect things to be as they should. This tablet should not lag and I don't experience any myself after 3 weeks of owernership. Just out of curiosity, what types off operations lag?
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Most lag is application dependent. This is easily one of the fastest devices I have ever owned, and it kills my iPad 1.
I suggest looking at your particular configuration and what apps you are using. Also, remove all task killers. This a major part of application launch lag.
I've noticed that it's when I open applications up, like the browser or settings and tends to be the opening (zoom?) animation.
On a side note, instead of opening a new topic, does the device (When rooted) have sysctl.conf capabilities?
Thanks
If your rooted you can try an app called ram manager. You only get one option but it'll surely speed it up. If you get pro you'll get more options which you may like even more. It optimizes the ram to make it run more efficiently. Try the app out and see if you like or not. You can also speed the tab up by turning all the animations off in Settings/Screen.
Wouldn't that stop my superuser and busybox running?
I've moved them into my system/app folder.o
Switching screens on the defaul home launcher can be laggy or stuttering.
so i have tried auto memory manager and ram manager, but in the task killer, themram is always at around 650/750. It looks like my superuser and busybox are being killed. I have moved them into the system/app, no task killers are inatalled. Any ideas?
Ive got them set to keep alive in AMM but it seems to be getting killed. Whenever i open the app, ita always granted user permissions, grr!
Though the lag is most noticable with the default launcher, Go Launcher for Pad seems to be OK with it. Shame as I like the stock launcher.
Just removed alot of the software in the system/app folder and the RAM is running at a very good 500/750, no lag with Go Launcher for Pad at all!
I had lag and OOM killing issues too before I removed some of the bloatware that Samsung ships. Below is a script for system apps safe to remove on the wifi-only GT-P6210. You might need SecPhone and Stk (Sim Toolkit) if your tab has a cell radio. Also removed are Kies, Pulse, and Google apps that you can get from Play Store.
You can easily remove & backup the apps by pasting the script into a root terminal on your tablet (remove the echo first). Reboot after doing so.
mount /system -o remount,rw
mkdir /system/app/backup
for x in Bluetooth BluetoothTest BuddiesNow CSC Divx DrmProvider DualClock Ebook Email Exchange Factory FactoryTest fotaclient FTC FTM FTS GooglePartnerSetup HTMLViewer Kies kieswifi LatinImeGoogle lcdTest Maps PanningTryActually PCWClientS Preconfig PRUI Pulse SamsungApps SamsungAppsUNA1 SamsungWidget_News SamsungWidget_ProgramMonitor SamsungWidget_StockClock SecPhone SetupWizard shutdown signin SnsAccountFb SnsAccountLi SnsAccountTw SnsDisclaimer SnsImageCache SnsProvider SocialHub Stk Street syncmldm syncmlds talkback WAPPushManager WlanTest wssomacp wssyncmlnps YouTubeTablet
do echo mv "/system/app/$x.apk" "/system/app/$x.odex" "/system/app/backup"
done
mount /system -o remount,ro
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Thanks dude. My wort nightmare would be to brick this.
I did with my Sony Tablet. Tried to implement init.d support on it in February and bricked it. If the firmware for my device was around id feel safe.
I've backed all the removed apps to system/app.old
Just out of curiosity... after having done that are you having any SOD issues (sleep of death)
Issues with the tablet sleeping? None I've noticed.
SWFlyerUK said:
Thanks dude. My wort nightmare would be to brick this.
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Don't worry, it's rather difficult to brick. I recovered from bootlooping after a bit too much tweaking (not related to removing apps) and had to flash an older firmware that I downloaded.
Zadeis: No SODs here.
Can I ask what it was you did to brick it?
I used ROM Toolbox Pro and changed the LCD Density and VM Heap size. The tablet wasn't bricked (that means "have to send back to Samsung" in my book), it only looped on the Samsung logo endlessly. I had to fix it with ODIN Mode and Heimdall. This was before I had CWM Recovery installed and knew about adb.
I've edited both of these in the build.prop with root explorer, but assume it was the toolbox that cause the issue for you?
The VM Heap size on my old Nook Color was 48m, v. the default 288m for the Tab. I compared the two and set it too low maybe. The problem wasn't the app - I use it still.
I went down to 124m those morning but won't touch it again.
I have added and teamed the build.prop?
Would you check to see what you start heapsize is please, is it 6m?

Latest global update 12.5.4 extended memory

Ok, so I've upgraded to latest firmware 12.5.4 global rom, and I've tried the extended memory option in the additional setting that added extra 2mb of ram... However from the about phone all settings the ram shown still 6MB... Shouldn't it shown 8MB instead of original 6MB?
unrelated question but just want to confirm, do Global ROM uses MIUI Contact, Dialer, and Messaging app? or from Google?
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maybe use cpuz or any app that show device spec?
Syfer_Fever said:
unrelated question but just want to confirm, do Global ROM uses MIUI Contact, Dialer, and Messaging app? or from Google?
back to topic:
maybe use cpuz or any app that show device spec?
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Global use Google apps phone, contact, messaging.... Yep, haven't try using 3rd party apps... Just looking if it's standard across all user... I've seen other phone showing 6GB + 2 extended on the setting page.
To answer both questions.
Many versions of MIUI these days are legally forced to use Google Messages and Google Dialer. There are a few places where the laws against such don't exist and will ship with those versions installed. Overall I wouldn't recommend it. I also wouldn't recommend Google Dialer or Mesages either, they're spammy, lack features and counter intuitive.
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As far as extended memory, I'm on the 8GB/128GB version of the device and after enabling that option the device RAM stayed at 8 in every app I used to check stats. Built in specs app and also many other specs apps like CPU Z. To me personally 8GB is already overkill because my usage even in heavy gaming is always less than 4GB. The additional 1/2 GB added is done purely on a deep level and will not ever show. Besides, real ram and storage ram have HUGE speed differences and I'm not gonna slow my phone down by using my storage as RAM. Also do not want to cross the write cycles by using my storage as RAM.
Alrich said:
To answer both questions.
Many versions of MIUI these days are legally forced to use Google Messages and Google Dialer. There are a few places where the laws against such don't exist and will ship with those versions installed. Overall I wouldn't recommend it. I also wouldn't recommend Google Dialer or Mesages either, they're spammy, lack features and counter intuitive.
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As far as extended memory, I'm on the 8GB/128GB version of the device and after enabling that option the device RAM stayed at 8 in every app I used to check stats. Built in specs app and also many other specs apps like CPU Z. To me personally 8GB is already overkill because my usage even in heavy gaming is always less than 4GB. The additional 1/2 GB added is done purely on a deep level and will not ever show. Besides, real ram and storage ram have HUGE speed differences and I'm not gonna slow my phone down by using my storage as RAM. Also do not want to cross the write cycles by using my storage as RAM.
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So it's not recommended to enable the option? I did notice improvements on the speed especially when typing and gaming...
Nazri786 said:
So it's not recommended to enable the option? I did notice improvements on the speed especially when typing and gaming...
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When you notice an improvement when typing, there is something wrong with your phone
Noter2017 said:
When you notice an improvement when typing, there is something wrong with your phone
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Yep, I am using swiftkey and it does improve on the typing... So far everything works great... Only the signal is not as good as while using asus or Samsung..
You need to reset your phone.
Because there seems to be something else holding your phone back that's making typing laggy. No phone after the year 2015 should be laggy while typing. Whether it's 1GB RAM or in your case a minimum of 6GB.

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