Indeed it is better... ive used setCPU for since i first starting modding, and recently a friend turned me onto SystemTunerPRO & i gotta say its a million times better!
OC's ALWAYS stay, never gets killed by the system, UV's correctly, and has awesome organization!
Has the ability to controll what apps launch on boot, control memory usage, edit the MinFree settings, adjust the task-killer, just wow... yeah too much to say.
I suggest this WAY OVER setCPU... you should check it out...
https://market.android.com/details?...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNjYzcxLnBtdy5wcm8iXQ..
(if you dont want to pay the measly $5... Google for it)
-or if you use something better... tell us about it.
Imho, if you like the app and use it, you should just pay for it. The author has put time and effort into the product that has benefited you. The money he gets may inspire him to make more or better products.
Bought this immediately.
It trumps; Taskiller, SetCPU, Startup Auditor & Titanium Backup. I've uninstalled all off those.
It's an all-in-one interface with very simple and direct options. Not recommended for Android newbs. This can and will brick your **** if you don't know what you're doing. I love it. Excellent app.
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Voltage Control also works well.
Brainze said:
Bought this immediately.
It trumps; Taskiller, SetCPU, Startup Auditor & Titanium Backup. I've uninstalled all off those.
It's an all-in-one interface with very simple and direct options. Not recommended for Android newbs. This can and will brick your **** if you don't know what you're doing. I love it. Excellent app.
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1. task killers kill your battery, not your tasks
- by killing tasks, you are forcing android to kill then reload applications that would normally save more battery by being left in system memory (this removes the need to reload data)
2. what about system tuner pro makes it better than TiBU??
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Voltage Control works very well also.
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3. yes. VC is by far the easiest to use and if you use it correctly(usually by itself), you will have no problems
4. system tuner is a heavy user of system resource...the ONLY feature i've found that it has that others dont (at least i havent found a replacement yet) is its ability to display current CPU frequency...i used system tuner pro alot when i was undervolting my cpu and stress testing so i could see how hard the phone was working
The *Nix philosophy: Do one thing and do it well. I used System Tuner and found it's interface to be awful/ugly, and didn't really fulfill any need that a more focused app didn't. System Tuner really can't do all the things TiBu can, and voltage settings should never be "killed" by your phone since they're written to file.
I still prefer SetCPU. I like an app to be organized and the one you recommend is not. It's messy and sloppy.
There is NO backup app that comes close to being as perfect and bad ass as Titanium Backup.
Can't get STP to save on reboot completed
Hope this thread still attracts some attention, so I don't have to clutter up threads with a new on on same program
Using Bricked V5 kernel and Insert Coin Sense 4 Beta 12 ROM
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
Can anyone tell me how to overcome this. In particular I want STP to work over restarts, so I can tweak voltages as well as clock speeds
Edit: Oh dang I found this thread searching for STP, and overlooked it is a Samsung thread,. Doh!. Will repost in Sensation forum
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Hope this thread still attracts some attention, so I don't have to clutter up threads with a new on on same program
Using Bricked V5 kernel and Insert Coin Sense 4 Beta 12 ROM
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
Can anyone tell me how to overcome this. In particular I want STP to work over restarts, so I can tweak voltages as well as clock speeds
Edit: Oh dang I found this thread searching for STP, and overlooked it is a Samsung thread,. Doh!. Will repost in Sensation forum
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lol.
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scottx . said:
I still prefer SetCPU. I like an app to be organized and the one you recommend is not. It's messy and sloppy.
There is NO backup app that comes close to being as perfect and bad ass as Titanium Backup.
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TB dev started developping this app when Android started existing and receives a lot of support from Google. Yes it's far more advanced: the only feature that STP doesn't have (yet ) is the multi-version backups.
Messy and sloppy... Maybe, a matter of opinion and taste. No question on that.
jesterpaul said:
Both STP and Antutus' CPU Master do not save selected settings (max / min speed, voltages etc) over reboots, although this is selected (on STP have "on boot completed" selected, and on CPU Master it's a tickbox as with SetCPU)
Only SetCPU saves my preferences over reboot.
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Interesting... Have you contacted the devs of those apps to see if they can help? When you tested these, did you kept all 3 apps installed and configured?
I believe everyone is entitled to have preference, but know one thing for all 3 devs it's the same complexity: every kernel, every phone behaves differently. Not to mention ROMs or even possible user errors.
And as you have a Sensation, STP was partly developped on this device, and this device requires a specific work-around to be able to read and write CPU settings!
If you do want STP to work and are willing to spend a little time investigating, contact the dev I know him and he will do everything to help (I know cause it's me).
adalgiso said:
The *Nix philosophy: Do one thing and do it well. I used System Tuner and found it's interface to be awful/ugly, and didn't really fulfill any need that a more focused app didn't. System Tuner really can't do all the things TiBu can, and voltage settings should never be "killed" by your phone since they're written to file.
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2 philosophy: some users prefers all in one apps, some prefers app that focus on one thing.
My 2 cents: the more apps, the more consumption you get. The worth example is apps reading battery data... If you have one that reads it ok, if you have 5 apps: 5 times the consumption.
Noted a user saying a task killer is bad: if you know how to configure it it's much better than the Android integrated one which will kill widget apps at will and blindly or even apps you use frequently but will always leave Google's app running even you never use them!
And STP can configure its own task-killer and the OOM Android integrated one.
STP is less than one year old, and is only my second app in Java and on Android. Still a lot to add to it, and still some imperfections, but working on it.
Now I fully understand all opinions expressed here. They are very reasonable too.
Let's meet in a year from now and see if I can change your opinion on this.
In the mean time, enjoy your apps or my apps preferably
I have grown to like all in one apps, such as this (system tuner) there is another that I'd like to point out called ROM toolbox, I use it for everything, back up apps, root browser, ad manager, boot animation installer, voltage controller, mem controller, ect. It's nearly got a function for everything, and I think people should take a look at it, it's nice, and all my stuff would be lost without it
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Looking for tweaks for system tuner pro.
I'm using system tuner pro on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really enjoy it so far. I also use Titanium Backup and SetCPU which both do exactly what I need them to. I use stp mainly for the ability to monitor my cpu, memory, ect. I am looking for tweaks to set to get my tablet running even smoother. Right now I'm running stock HC 3.2 ROM with pershoot's kernel oc to 1.4ghz. What can I do in stp to optimize my settings further? Changes to governor, on demand? SD cache size and IO scheduler? That type of thing. I would appreciate any helpful tips especially since the developer has been on this thread and seems to be very helpful. Thanks.
Bigzinewicz said:
I'm using system tuner pro on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and really enjoy it so far. I also use Titanium Backup and SetCPU which both do exactly what I need them to. I use stp mainly for the ability to monitor my cpu, memory, ect. I am looking for tweaks to set to get my tablet running even smoother. Right now I'm running stock HC 3.2 ROM with pershoot's kernel oc to 1.4ghz. What can I do in stp to optimize my settings further? Changes to governor, on demand? SD cache size and IO scheduler? That type of thing. I would appreciate any helpful tips especially since the developer has been on this thread and seems to be very helpful. Thanks.
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You can find some tips to get you started here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/64#main-content-area
3c said:
You can find some tips to get you started here: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/64#main-content-area
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Thanks was looking for a site to learn more about this app! I am a new user to the andriod platform and find this app a great resource. Thanks for the great app and keep up the great work. :good:
Cheers
p.s. I have the Pro version
Great App thankyou .
I'm new-ish to using this as my main control app,although I bought it over a year ago,but unless your almost Of dev standard it can get a bit confusing, it's looking and is easier to use now smart phone screens are alot bigger.
I do still use T.B for certain things it is already setup with old backups and cloud feature use,I realize this app can do most but I've always used T.B.
Anyway my question probably easy but I'm using a dual core cpu but can't find how to change cpu1, I can change cpu 0 and see the frequecies for both but only the sliders for cpu0!
I've just thought my phone is rooted but locked bootloader so maybe because I'm using stock kernel maybe it's only letting me change 1cpu?
Its not even showing sliders for 2nd cpu though . e
Any help appreciated.
I'll probably need more help but I want to get this sorted 1st .
Since I stopped using multi task killers ,auto memory killer pro,cpu control (set cpu ) n so on, now using System Tuner Pro, Juice Defender Plus and Tit Backup Pro that's all I'm able to find then address issues so much easier.
Also Dev is very helpful ,I left Comment on play review and was emailed within a day ,so thanks A1 customer service .Thank dev and any one who can help me.
thank you for your mind bendingly difficult work on this app!
3c said:
TB dev started developping this app when Android started existing and receives a lot of support from Google. Yes it's far more advanced: the only feature that STP doesn't have (yet ) is the multi-version backups.
Messy and sloppy... Maybe, a matter of opinion and taste. No question on that.
Interesting... Have you contacted the devs of those apps to see if they can help? When you tested these, did you kept all 3 apps installed and configured?
I believe everyone is entitled to have preference, but know one thing for all 3 devs it's the same complexity: every kernel, every phone behaves differently. Not to mention ROMs or even possible user errors.
And as you have a Sensation, STP was partly developped on this device, and this device requires a specific work-around to be able to read and write CPU settings!
If you do want STP to work and are willing to spend a little time investigating, contact the dev I know him and he will do everything to help (I know cause it's me).
2 philosophy: some users prefers all in one apps, some prefers app that focus on one thing.
My 2 cents: the more apps, the more consumption you get. The worth example is apps reading battery data... If you have one that reads it ok, if you have 5 apps: 5 times the consumption.
Noted a user saying a task killer is bad: if you know how to configure it it's much better than the Android integrated one which will kill widget apps at will and blindly or even apps you use frequently but will always leave Google's app running even you never use them!
And STP can configure its own task-killer and the OOM Android integrated one.
STP is less than one year old, and is only my second app in Java and on Android. Still a lot to add to it, and still some imperfections, but working on it.
Now I fully understand all opinions expressed here. They are very reasonable too.
Let's meet in a year from now and see if I can change your opinion on this.
In the mean time, enjoy your apps or my apps preferably
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DEEEZZO!! Damn Dogs, yall just got served! HAHAHA:laugh:
seriously though, I know this is an older thread, hopefully someone listening. I had some questions about what a few thing meant in system tuner pro...which I think is a super hero app. I have only recently discovered that my lg thrill is a power and complicated device, even though I,ve had for over a year. before it was just a really cool phone. In the past two months I have bricked I have bricked on of my phones or the other
11 times-i bought another one so i wouldn't have to worry about not having a phone-half a dozen of those times was exploring system tuner settings. while I am a pro at flashing and recovery, i know virtually nothing about my device, and would love to know what some of these settings do. how to optimize her for each of the different ways I use her. that said, what is the difference between default and recommended setting in sys con?
pollutedmuse said:
DEEEZZO!! Damn Dogs, yall just got served! HAHAHA:laugh:
seriously though, I know this is an older thread, hopefully someone listening. I had some questions about what a few thing meant in system tuner pro...which I think is a super hero app. I have only recently discovered that my lg thrill is a power and complicated device, even though I,ve had for over a year. before it was just a really cool phone. In the past two months I have bricked I have bricked on of my phones or the other
11 times-i bought another one so i wouldn't have to worry about not having a phone-half a dozen of those times was exploring system tuner settings. while I am a pro at flashing and recovery, i know virtually nothing about my device, and would love to know what some of these settings do. how to optimize her for each of the different ways I use her. that said, what is the difference between default and recommended setting in sys con?
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The default is what's been configured on the Kernel installed, either by manufacturer or dev on XDA. The recommended is actually some settings that have "proven" to work on most devices. Make sure to have a NANDROID backup or a way to recover in case it doesn't work for you. Once applied you can review the changes (they appear in blue) and reset them as you wish. It also resets completely on reboot to be safe, until you press the 'on boot' button to restore them on each reboot.
PS: If you like System Tuner, you might love Android Tuner, the merging of System Tuner and Battery Monitor Widget. If so there's a special offer/discount for existing users.
In the market? Or can I purchase direct from your site (preferred).
What is the function of the I/O scheduler and the difference between noop/deadline/cfq?
BTW, I don't just like STP I love it! I'm constantly fiddling with it. Seems like a very complicated project. I will get the other after I submit this post and check it out. Thanks bro!
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pollutedmuse said:
In the market? Or can I purchase direct from your site (preferred).
What is the function of the I/O scheduler and the difference between noop/deadline/cfq?
BTW, I don't just like STP I love it! I'm constantly fiddling with it. Seems like a very complicated project. I will get the other after I submit this post and check it out. Thanks bro!
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Most of my apps can only be purchased on Play Market for now. Android Tuner is available on SlideME now, which offers various payment methods (PayPal, Amazon, etc).
I used to sell on AndroidPIT, but they are very bad for business so I stopped, and I would strongly recommend not to purchase with them, only means troubles. SlideME offers guarantees like on PlayStore, which AP doesn't.
That said, I might publish my other apps on SlideME if it turns out well.
As for IO scheduler, it's the way the kernel will organize (schedule) IO operations on SD cards, noop, deadline and cfq are the most frequently available and used. deadline is said to be the most effective in a multi-tasking environment, whereas noop might create lags in some circumstances. Opinion and experiences differ largely, so might be best to test them.
PS: I would be happy to sell direct, but that requires an infrastructure I don't have. Relying on PlayStore or other distributor makes it easy to publish and also distributes updates.
Thank you sir, the only reason I was wondering about an alternative place of purchase is because, well long story short, my buddy shared a launcher apk with me and the play store got into my phone and froze not only the app, but my whole phone. After reboot all was fine minus the app. I guess it seemed kind of like a search and siezure with out a warrant. I felt a bit slighted and thought I would run an experiment and see if I can produce a comparable experience with all my various types of tech mediums without a single shred of google interface of any kind....I have to admit, it is not easy, they have really intertwined themselves with eanything. No, I'm not paranoid, just trying something new.
BTW, GOOD FN JOB WITH AT!!! Quite an amazing job you have done, any others besides the two? You ought somehow do a game of sorts, like an android app building or developer challenge/puzzle type thing with the purpose of training greenhorns interested in learning and honing veteran skills as well. Sorry for the spam, again thanks, and nice work.
Ps, I did relapse a lil and purchase AT from google...sshhh, don't tell anyone!haha
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This topic is intended for those few Motorola XT720 users.
As you well know, Motorola, in their infinite wisdom, have created a gimped phone that seems to have mostly problems about it rather than advantages.
For a start, they have underclocked the CPU from its possible theoretical maximum of 1GHz to a paltry 550 MHz (and the update only unlocked an on-demand setting of up to 720 MHz). Secondly, the included launcher is actually inferior to both stock Vanilla Eclair and most other 3rd party launchers. It is sluggish and never quite feels smooth (especially so when browsing your apps or switching panels).
So what is the solution to the above problems and how to make your XT720 truly fly and feel comparable to most any other high-end smartphone? Simple, I say!
I won't tell you how to do these steps, but I can provide info and know-how-to if people ask me to:
0) Install Astro File Manager from the Market.
1) Root your device. Use Universal Androoter to do this. Try to go for latest possible version you can find. Your phone will not be able to find it on the Market so try Google.
2) Go to http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/ and download the basic program to overclock your XT720. The program allows you to do 'real' (actual) overclock of up to 1.2 GHz, but your CPU will be unstable in this speed. Instead, opt for 1GHz, which is not a 'real' overclock, since the Texas Instr. CPU inside your phone is actually able to run at this speed natively.
3) Download SetCPU or get it from XDA.
Have it 'automatically' configure / find your CPU speed and then set it up as such:
Make sure the upscale governor is set to at least 85. Mine is at 86.
a) Fully Charged / Plugged In: Min/Max at 1000MHz (Performance) [55]
b) Below 40% Min 550 / Max 1000 (On Demand) [60]
c) Below 20% Min 500 / Max 550 (On Demand) [65]
d) While Screen Turned Off Min 150 / Max 500 (On Demand) [70]
Make sure all settings are set to 'Enable' and 'auto-run' is checked.
4) Download Zeam Today Launcher from the Market. It is free. Install it and press Home. Try it once to be sure and safe, but afterwards make sure you set it to 'default' (so that it launches as the default launcher).
Restart your phone and voila. Enjoy XT720 as you never have before.....
I have an HTC Desire and a Samsung Galaxy S and I promise you that my XT720 feels (almost) as snappy as they, and that's a huge difference in improvement, given that I felt that the XT720 was one of the sluggiest phones I had ever have to experience! Now it can finally unlock its full potential.
EDIT: Realised I accidentally posted this in the wrong subsections. This was done unintentionally. Please can some mod move it to the 'General' section?
Thanks for your post, grcd! Just some questions...
Do all 0 to 4 have to be done, & in that order? Or can I choose any?
What is Astro File Manager for? Is it needed to do 1 to 4?
Edit: ok, so 2 & 3 need root. But are 0 & 4 necessary or only recommended?
Edit: ok, I can choose among different file managers for 0, & among different launchers for 4.
& I can't find a single appropriate page on universal androoter on google? Except your post.
Edit: oops, found universal androot! Sorry, noob
very usefull
thanx
My friend just got one of these and I've been trying to find some good resources but can't seem to turn anything up.
Are them any development forums for this model out there? And are there any custom roms out or is the stock rom, rooted, overclocked with cleaned up the bloatware the best you can get?
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My friend just got one of these and I've been trying to find some good resources but can't seem to turn anything up.
Are them any development forums for this model out there? And are there any custom roms out or is the stock rom, rooted, overclocked with cleaned up the bloatware the best you can get?
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XT720 bootloader is locked and currently there's no known method to attack it. So, no custom ROMs. For Optimization, check the below link. You'll need to root your phone first (either One Click Root via PC or using Universal Androot apk).
this optimizer script got Busybox, Apps2SD, JIT from Froyo, custom build.prop, removing unnecessary apps and custom themes.
Code:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone-xt720/74284-guide-milestone-xt720-apps2sd-froyo-jit.html
App2sd is a must, the internal memory for this phone is too small. I even put a class 10 micro sd in it.
Thanks for the optimization link, spiderx_mm! I'll do that too but it will take me a bit longer to be confident in doing that.
Meanwhile, the overclocking++ advice above seemed to help at the start, but little by little, my XT720 was lagging again, & lagging longer & longer. Does this happen to others?
I'm also encountering weird problems, like Dolphin Browser HD 4.2 tabs reloading from the web even for conditions when it's supposed to reload from the cache. So I'm also trying to reverse the process tio isolate the problem, but I have a few questions.
Once the setcpu modifications are done, can I unroot? It seems to me no, because I would think root is needed to change the clock on the fly? But if I simply overclock without using setcpu, then it seems to me that I can unroot without undoing the overclock changes?
While at this, is there an important sequence to follow to reverse the whole process? Do I have to set setcpu to the clock that I want to revert to before reverting the clock? I would experiment on my own except for the risk of bricking
Tia!
@grcd Will this improve camera response and hd video recording quality?
@spider thanks for the link. I'll give that a shot. I'm assuming since it hasn't been done yet, that no one is working to unlock the bootloader?
@reggie you will most definitely need to retain root to use setcpu. The app setcpu is what's actually changing the scaling itself, that's why there's the 'set at boot' option, bc the app has to set it everytime. Because the kernel just has overclock capabilities, but not overclocked by default, you will always need setcpu or a similar app to do the actual overclock. Why would you want to unroot anyways? If your having issues, I would recommend using system panel for a few days and see if somethings bogging your system down, it has great monitoring functions. I've yet to do the optimization, but I can't imagine anything there is what's causing you to have lag issues..
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Thanks for your post, grcd! Just some questions...
Do all 0 to 4 have to be done, & in that order? Or can I choose any?
What is Astro File Manager for? Is it needed to do 1 to 4?
Edit: ok, so 2 & 3 need root. But are 0 & 4 necessary or only recommended?
Edit: ok, I can choose among different file managers for 0, & among different launchers for 4.
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You can replace it with any other file explorer of your like and choice. The basic idea is to get root, and using Universal Androoter is the only way I know of for the XT7220 that is user friendly. Afterwards the rest is simple, using the overclocking app and SetCPU.
civicvx94 said:
My friend just got one of these and I've been trying to find some good resources but can't seem to turn anything up.
Are them any development forums for this model out there? And are there any custom roms out or is the stock rom, rooted, overclocked with cleaned up the bloatware the best you can get?
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No, see answer below.
spiderx_mm said:
XT720 bootloader is locked and currently there's no known method to attack it. So, no custom ROMs. For Optimization, check the below link. You'll need to root your phone first (either One Click Root via PC or using Universal Androot apk).
this optimizer script got Busybox, Apps2SD, JIT from Froyo, custom build.prop, removing unnecessary apps and custom themes.
Code:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone-xt720/74284-guide-milestone-xt720-apps2sd-froyo-jit.html
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I have also been looking into this optimizing script. Will try it and hopefully it improves things even more.
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Thanks for the optimization link, spiderx_mm! I'll do that too but it will take me a bit longer to be confident in doing that.
Meanwhile, the overclocking++ advice above seemed to help at the start, but little by little, my XT720 was lagging again, & lagging longer & longer. Does this happen to others?
I'm also encountering weird problems, like Dolphin Browser HD 4.2 tabs reloading from the web even for conditions when it's supposed to reload from the cache. So I'm also trying to reverse the process tio isolate the problem, but I have a few questions.
Once the setcpu modifications are done, can I unroot? It seems to me no, because I would think root is needed to change the clock on the fly? But if I simply overclock without using setcpu, then it seems to me that I can unroot without undoing the overclock changes?
While at this, is there an important sequence to follow to reverse the whole process? Do I have to set setcpu to the clock that I want to revert to before reverting the clock? I would experiment on my own except for the risk of bricking
Tia!
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I noticed that too, so my initial excitement wore off. It seems that I was a bit wrong and some XT7220 devices will not happily run at 1GHz without some lag issues. Try lowering your speed to the next step down and see if that helps -- this might mean running at 800MHz, which is a mere 80MHz overclock, but whatever).
The optimizer script might help speed some things further up. But I haven't tried it yet. Also, Apps2SD will definately help as the phone has little internal memory, so the more apps that are there then the slowest things will get over time.
I am not sure of the ways to unroot to be entirely honest, but I guess you have to check FAQs for Universal Androoter to see if the process is reversable. As about the rest, it is quite simple: Just uninstall SetCPU (it might help to return the clock to its normal speed, but uninstalling it will do it anyway I suppose), and then use the Milestone Overclock to return the speeds to the stock speeds. Then uninstall that too.
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@grcd Will this improve camera response and hd video recording quality?
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AFAIK it will not. Or it might, but the differences are negligible. I am afraid that unless there is a custom ROM or a complete kernel hack, significant improvements in the camera department might be hard to come by.
It's very sad how badly Motorola dropped the ball with this phone. I admit I gave up on it and sold it to a friend for cheap.
I am not sure of the ways to unroot
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The Universal Androot app has 1 click unroot.
Dear users,
Considering all 3C apps are now based on the same source code, they all behave the same way, and will exhibit the same issues. Any queries will also likely applies to all apps.
To make my life easier while continuing to provide support here (and start with a clean slate), I decided to close all my app threads and open a fresh new thread here.
With your continuous help and support, the past 4 years have been a great adventure and experience. Let's take a fresh start and continue this amazing adventure.
Thank you all!
We're working on System Tuner version 3.0. Beta testing should be available soon, stay tuned.
Please check this for a 3-in-1 integrated app: ANDROID TUNER.
ANDROID TUNER IS NOT A REPLACEMENT APP BUT AN INTEGRATION OF ALL 3C APPS AND MANY OTHER
There are 2 options for existing users wishing to use the integrated version:
1) you can use Android Tuner Free which unlocks all already paid features from Battery Monitor Widget Pro and System Tuner Pro (except widgets)
2) or you can use a discount on Android Tuner paid version with this migration offer, note however we can no longer refund old apps as before because refund policy on Play Store have changed since December 20th
We're currently using Android Tuner's existing source code to rebuild BMW and ST from scratch, this is a lot of work and requires a lot of manual handling to avoid these:
- A 10MB APK instead of today's 2MB APK.
- A near-bug-free experience, beta testing will run for a long time with selected users, depending on users' feedback and app usage.
- Accurate data migration for user switching from 2.x to 3.0 without data loss.
- Removing features from BMW without breaking the app (battery data)
- Keeping a low memory footprints splitting UI and services components
- Keeping app performance as high as possible (version checks at run time)
- Removing features using new permissions without breaking the app (sms, contacts, etc). More than 20 permission in AT!
Note that the above is very complex and represents a lot of work, so it will take time before 3.0 is actually published.
More coming soon, stay tuned.
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how can i get this?
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how can i get this?
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Available on the Market, search either 'Process Monitor Widget' or '3c06'
found it in market, but the download won't start...
totalz said:
found it in market, but the download won't start...
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Did you succeed downloading the app? I had download problems in Market with certain ROM, never found why... maybe it's related?
ccounotte said:
Did you succeed downloading the app? I had download problems in Market with certain ROM, never found why... maybe it's related?
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Could be because of the customized rom, I'm a newbie with x10, just installed the blue spark rom on my 2nd day use, because of the flop score... I tried all day yesterday downloading the widget, search the web for fixes, but no, the download just won't start (or finish)! Really want to try this app to see cpu mhz & usage on "front panel"!
I even used the SDK and emulate avd to download the file...
May be u would consider posting it here? Oh, I even installed Slide 4.0, but they don't have your app, may be u can post there as an alternative? Can download there no problem, just tried aiSystem.
totalz said:
May be u would consider posting it here? Oh, I even installed Slide 4.0, but they don't have your app, may be u can post there as an alternative? Can download there no problem, just tried aiSystem.
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Hello totalz,
Sorry for the late reply, I've been quite busy lately.
I'd rather email it to you, so I don't have old versions to update here and there in the future. PM me for my email or directly from Google Market.
Great app.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks and has alot of info in a tiny 1x1 space.
I put free memory on top, cpu speed at the bottom, cpu load and free internal memory on the sides.
zeppelinrox said:
Great app.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks and has alot of info in a tiny 1x1 space.
I put free memory on top, cpu speed at the bottom, cpu load and free internal memory on the sides.
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@ you and @ Dev
How does this affect batterylife?
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thanx dude
Any thoughts about combining your battery monitor widget functions and tying the battery consumption to the process? Maybe I'm over(under)thinking it, but being able to see graphically process history vs battery consumption per process would be very helpful to narrowing down inefficient apps.
Cheers
Nice app! Thanks!
nice
Works fine !
Thanks !
tmknight said:
Any thoughts about combining your battery monitor widget functions and tying the battery consumption to the process? Maybe I'm over(under)thinking it, but being able to see graphically process history vs battery consumption per process would be very helpful to narrowing down inefficient apps.
Cheers
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That would be nice....
Work fine on my phone/rom.
Thanks, nice little app. Also like your battery widget app as well
Nice app - great job! Will try it out for a bit before buying the ad free version, but it seems pretty cool!
Nice app.
Working well on HD2 running NAND NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9G.
Sweet app... my Evo runs noticeably smoother.
Looks nice .. Trying it out, thanks
Im mainly looking for an app/widget that shows battery percentage, cpu max/min status, phone temp, etc. Can someone point me towards an app like that?
And any other good apps that will be used on a daily basis?
Also, I plan on rooting the phone soon....I just got it a couple hours ago.
Hi,
I recommend the following apps:
- Droid Overclock
- SetCPU
Skyfire - browser with support for java
lookout - malware protection for your net surfing
advanced task killer - if you dont already have something to manage things running in the background this is what i would suggest.
Robo defense - because why shouldn't you kill loads of time with your device?
Hope this helps
Thanks folks. Now, if you don't mind, what is a clean and simple rom (without bing) & kernel? I want something easy to use with a good number of themes.
SimmonsInHD said:
Thanks folks. Now, if you don't mind, what is a clean and simple rom (without bing) & kernel? I want something easy to use with a good number of themes.
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I use MikFroyo 4.5 with the netarchy-toastmod-4.3.1-bfs-havs-sbc kernel and really have had no issues to speak of. the guys over in the Mikfroyo thread in development are very helpful if you do run into any problems and there seem to be quite a few themes that you can choose from.
However, I own an EVO and it may not work if you have a different phone.
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Im mainly looking for an app/widget that shows battery percentage, cpu max/min status, phone temp, etc. Can someone point me towards an app like that?
And any other good apps that will be used on a daily basis?
Also, I plan on rooting the phone soon....I just got it a couple hours ago.
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I am using Lithium Mod and it has a widget specifically for that!
Okay guys,
I've tried the v6 supercharger and it didn't really help me too much. Even though I believe that modifies these files, I was curious if maybe tweaking them further would do anything.
Just got done reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Decided to try messing with these values. The file in question is "lowmemorykiller" located (from the root dir) at sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters. You'll obviously need root and a file manager that has root and editing capabilites.
Opening this file will display 6 numbers seperated by commas. Each one of these refers to a minimum amount of memory assigned to different types of programs, processes etc before the memory manager will automatically close them.
My default numbers were:
7746,9720,11694,13742,15715,24709.
If you read the post in the link above, it will explain what each of these memory limits references. Don't change anything until you've:
A. Backed up your original file!
B. Understand exactly what you're doing (read the link above!).
For those that want to help me with this, try changing all of your values to the ones listed below. When you're done, the file should simply look like this:
2048,4096,5376,9984,11776,13312
Save these and see if it helps at all. I've noticed a bit better multitasking doing this. Most things like the browser or games are still loaded in memory when navigating back to them. I've noticed a few oddities, but overall I think its a slight improvement. Some apps still reload, but dont completely restart (such as the xda app). If nothing else, this is something we can start tweaking to find the perfect values for.
I AM NO DEVELOPER. That being said, I try to help myself and others as best as I can. Hopefully together we can all figure this out
Something to note: like the author stated in the other post, these values will probably be reset to the default values upon a reboot. This could theoretically be fixed by running an init.d script.
Dunno if this is anything or not, but I got tired of reading about the multitasking problems and wanted to at least see if there was anything we could do on our own.
PS this MIGHT be in the wrong subforum. Apologies if so mods!
EDIT: Use the autokiller app in the play store. Should make this 1000 times easier. Thanks for the (obvious) idea Tikerz! I should have known there was an app for this Make sure to check the "run on boot" option under preferences to preserve your changes!
EDIT #2: Found the default minfree numbers for both versions of the one X, as well as the stock ICS numbers:
STOCK ONE X AT&T:
7746, 9720, 11694, 13742, 15715, 24709
STOCK ONE X TEGRA:
8192, 10240, 12288, 14336, 16384, 20480
STOCK ICS 4.0.4 VALUES:
8099, 10132, 12165, 14213, 16245, 20295
These numbers are far too close to be the culprit, but there are at least two other files (that I've found) that control multitasking, as well as certain things at the kernel level. Gonna see what I can dig up...
To make it easier, try AutoKiller from the Play Store. I don't have a One X, but am curious to know if changing the lowmemkiller values would fix the multi-tasking issues on a rooted One X.
1. Those values will make it incredibly easy to run out of memory and you risk having more OS crashes by doing so.
2. V6 supercharger probably needs special mods in order to work right on ICS.
any suggestions as to what some better values would be? Like I said, I'm just experimenting until someone who knows more might chime in. I plan on continuously tweaking these just to see how it affects things
EDIT: Trying the "system default" memory settings inside Autokiller seems to be working pretty well so far. Gonna keep messing with it.
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any suggestions as to what some better values would be? Like I said, I'm just experimenting until someone who knows more might chime in. I plan on continuously tweaking these
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I've got mine set to 8, 16, 21, 39, 46, 52 in AutoKiller. Or 2048,4096,5376, 9984, 11776, 13312 in pages. Multitasking is slightly better, but still far from perfect. I had originally set it to 8, 16, 21, 20,22,24, which yielded a much greater improvement to the multitasking abilities of the phone, however app performance suffered in some games.
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Yeah that's what I'm currently running too. Seems to help a bit at least. Looks like it's finding a balance between multitasking and available ram I guess... Thanks for the input.
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try use titanium backup to disable sense apps,
use a third-party launcher (nova launcher)
use system tuneup to adjust auto-kill memory level
it should help
What was the default HTC setting on the One X?
Well I posted my original numbers in the first post, but those might have been modified from running the v6 supercharger script. If nobody gets back to you ill factory restore and let ya know when I'm home later
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I'm about to redo supercharger as well since I loaded 1.82. Fyi, I came across an app called no bloat that'll let you freeze or uninstall system apps and also back them up automatically when you uninstall. Other real nice thing is that it remembers these apps and creates a blacklist of apps so that if you factory reset, it's a one click to uninstall all of them again. I use to use tb for things like freezing and uninstalling but this has been really helpful.
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Fyi, default values for 1.82 are 7746,9720,11694,13742,15715,24709
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Thanks for confirming those for us.
What are the best values to put mine at?
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I dunno if there are any "best" values. Just something to experiment with to see if it helps you. Try downloading the app autokiller from the play store and setting the values to the "system default" setting from within the app. These aren't actually the settings currently on your phone and they seem to help a few people at least a bit. Let us know if it helps you.
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im rooted and using autokiller but my settings wont stick through a reboot. have "set on boot" checked and evrything
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im rooted and using autokiller but my settings wont stick through a reboot. have "set on boot" checked and evrything
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Forgive me for asking the obvious, but you've granted the autokiller app superuser privileges? The modified settings stick through a reboot just fine for me...
Maybe try uninstalling and re installing the app? Sorry man, I'm just having trouble reproducing this.
EDIT: have you gone in with a file explorer and checked the values manually?
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Forgive me for asking the obvious, but you've granted the autokiller app superuser privileges? The modified settings stick through a reboot just fine for me...
Maybe try uninstalling and re installing the app? Sorry man, I'm just having trouble reproducing this.
EDIT: have you gone in with a file explorer and checked the values manually?
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they're fine right now, but i ran the supercharger to set on boot so i'm assuming that changes them every reboot. might just get rid of the supercharger script as i haven't noticed much improvement
ah there ya go. Give that a try. I'll bet that'll be what it was. Let me know if this helps at all. This was just random (wishful) thinking, and mostly just something to mess around with to see. You might benefit from trying different values too
Although I have none... Maybe these things as well as contributors can come up with some ideas that might have helped:
1. Kies restore via norbarb's/Kies method. This will remove root, but rerooting is 30 secs.
Root Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
Kies Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261232
All information is in his thread, but I feel it's easier to download Kies
start it up
and then plug your phone in. Kies will do the rest.
2. Seeder from Market by Entropy512. Root Required!
Download from Market
enable lag reduction
check only 'Start automatically on boot''
select performance profile "Moderate"
Reboot your phone and check its on.
3. Disable the following:
Power Saving (This one lags the phone quite a bit on different charge levels)
Screen Mirroring
Multi Window (This one straight lags the phone period, kinda useless)
4. Android Assitant
Download from Market
Select Tools from Tabs
Select Startup Manager
Under User Tab - Kill anything you don't care about
Under System Tab (Check to Kill on Startup, will run when you start it)-
Email (I don't use it)
Exchange Services (I don't use it - for MS Exchange Servers)
Help
Internet
Maps
Facebook SNS
Talk
Youtube
Reboot the phone
5. Developer Options. (Click 7 Times on the Build Number)
Window animation scale = 0.5
Transition animation scale = 0.5
Animator duration scale = 0.5
I don't use any ATT stuff so I removed it, but I doubt this will do anything. I have everything else enabled other than listed above like air gestures blah bla bla
By all means not exhaustive and lag is based on what you have loaded.... but I just hope this helps!
If others have anything to add please do.
0.5 still gives me lag, I set it to 0 just because it feels more instant.
I still see lag in glow animations, however, so I really think there is something up with the scaling/governor of the CPU/GPU. This will likely be remedied in future optimizations, patches, and/or third-party kernels (I hope).
I also turned off Air View, Air Gesture, Smart Stay, and Smart Scroll just because a part of me feels those were unnecessarily taxing. Messaging actually seems to load faster now that I don't think it needs to track finger movements.
I'm the opposite, I have all the features turned on & animations at default 1.
What I did was frooze all AT&T apps but left Samsung Apps alone since I like to see what they have to offer. Of course, you can freeze them if you want.
DL an app called Android tuner from the Play store & went to the startup section. I unchecked all apps that I didnt want to startup.
I have done just about everything listed in the 1st post and more at least 3 times in the past 3 days..
The lag-a-thon continues..
I have not tried Seeder or Android Assist nor will I!
I am sure they are premium and top notch applications but if I need to go to that extent just make what should be one of the fastest and quickest phones on the planet (based on it's specs) work then it's time for me to return and move along...
Good luck all as the POS is heading back to AT&T.. :good: :good: :good:
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0.5 still gives me lag, I set it to 0 just because it feels more instant.
I still see lag in glow animations, however, so I really think there is something up with the scaling/governor of the CPU/GPU. This will likely be remedied in future optimizations, patches, and/or third-party kernels (I hope).
I also turned off Air View, Air Gesture, Smart Stay, and Smart Scroll just because a part of me feels those were unnecessarily taxing. Messaging actually seems to load faster now that I don't think it needs to track finger movements.
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Did you reduce to 0 on all 3 scalers like transition, animation, and animation engine(?)
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I'm the opposite, I have all the features turned on & animations at default 1.
What I did was frooze all AT&T apps but left Samsung Apps alone since I like to see what they have to offer. Of course, you can freeze them if you want.
DL an app called Android tuner from the Play store & went to the startup section. I unchecked all apps that I didnt want to startup.
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I believe you have to leave Samsung apps completely working because they are tied to the SystemUI and features.
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I have done just about everything listed in the 1st post and more at least 3 times in the past 3 days..
The lag-a-thon continues..
I have not tried Seeder or Android Assist nor will I!
I am sure they are premium and top notch applications but if I need to go to that extent just make what should be one of the fastest and quickest phones on the planet (based on it's specs) work then it's time for me to return and move along...
Good luck all as the POS is heading back to AT&T.. :good: :good: :good:
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Wait what? Kies released the OS yesterday.... Factory reset and Kies is very different
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Did you reduce to 0 on all 3 scalers like transition, animation, and animation engine(?)
I believe you have to leave Samsung apps completely working because they are tied to the SystemUI and features.
Wait what? Kies released the OS yesterday.... Factory reset and Kies is very different
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I did the Odin method twice last night and once today..
Have not tried Kies but may give it a shot later tonight before this thing gets boxed up and sent back to hell...
I doubt there will be any difference whatsoever between using Kies or Odin but hey, I will give it a try..
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I did the Odin method twice last night and once today..
Have not tried Kies but may give it a shot later tonight before this thing gets boxed up and sent back to hell...
I doubt there will be any difference whatsoever between using Kies or Odin but hey, I will give it a try..
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Sorry about the frustration, but I appreciate you giving it another try as I really am enjoying this phone coming from an Infuse 4G.
In the meanwhile, try seeder and android assistant as well.... Root is reversible anyways.... Good luck!
Seeder is not by entropy512...it relies on a thing called entropy...and most devs say its pacebo as there is no real reason why it would increase performance...this is just based of the entropy threads ive read...and I believe entropy512 was one of those people who stated it was placebo so a little irony there...however if it makes your phone run faster then use it but I never noticed any differnce with using seeder on any of my previous phones (samsung infuse, htc vivid)
Here is seeders official thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
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Its like any other program and settings done to phones. Some maybe affected some maybe not.... I through it on most my phones.... Depends what you are running I guess, but who knows... I have 2 SGS4's... One for me and my wife... She doesn't have it and I do.... Most settings are the same, i'll see... Both bought on opening date at the same time, so hard to tell hardware batch... But I will seee......
Try looking for an app that prevents apps from starting up like "android tuner" or "Rom toolbox pro".
Something else is hit power saver off and on. Power saver limits the cpu speed might be it...
sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
i've noticed a tiny bit of a delay when unlocking the phone and perhaps when opening SMS and the phone, but its not enough that I feel it's the same lag that a lot of people here are complaining about. I'm only basing that on the fact that there's no way i'd be THIS upset (as some of you are) based on what i'm seeing. So while there's lag, im afraid to try this stuff because it cant possibly be what you guys are experiencing unless you're all huge complainers, which I doubt :silly:
These steps can be done on any phone and are generic. I am suggesting you try it
Just a quick, simple suggestion for everyone posting their best "you should try app XYZ" on this thread and others without posting any links to them.... please take the extra 2 seconds to link the app from the Play Store - ahhh, you see what I did there! - because it makes your attempt at a helpful post actually helpful! In the thread I made about that Weather Station app, do you know how many apps that have the words "Weather Station" there are on the Play Store? Here's the current list - would be pretty mean of me if I didn't link it, right? And someone still asked me on that thread what the name of the developer was because they didn't just click the link! :silly:
My 2 cents........
I am rooted and have noticed a little bit of lag - In the past I have used an app called "LagFix" free https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5ncmlsbGVkbW9ua2V5LmxhZ2ZpeCJd
So I tried installing it - dropped my animations in Settings/Developer Options to .5 and I noticed a pretty decent improvement.
I have also have always used Android Assistant https://play.google.com/store/search?q=android+assistant&c=apps because it is such a useful APP and it helps as well.
FYI - I also froze some of the unneeded ATT Bloatware APPS but I am not sure if that had any effect or not -
I was a little dissapointed when I first got this phone because of the lag but honestly I think I have been spoiled by running custom roms for so long I got used to having little to no bloat and hi power kernels --- so, I had to bring things into perspective - can't wait to get the bootloader unlocked and some AOSP roms to flash - lol
I still love this phone despite the few minor annoyances...
So i read in another thread of some people trying a different launcher and having better results.. I just installed nova launcher and bam.. lag is completely gone. LIke.. there is ZERO lag, not even a hitch.. so maybe the problem lies in how samsung did the launcher?
The only thing that i dont like now is that I can't use the really nicely redone clock/weather widget and the fantastic briefing widget which i fell in love with on day one. Oh well, at least my phone zips now.
howtomen said:
Something else is hit power saver off and on. Power saver limits the cpu speed might be it...
sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
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Nice going to add to the front.
Some people are using Trickster to tweak the cores... which I have heard it works, but I get wakelocks from this,...
What kind of wakelocks are you seeing? I'm seeing very very little wakelocks using trickster. I unplugged my phone at 4:30 am this morning. 12 hours later I still have 89% battery left with very few wakelocks (kernel/partial). With 48 mins screen on. Couple of phone calls and texts.
Yeah not sure why.... I am not sure how to find these wake locks.... I would need to jump into Better battery stats to do so...