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@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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@Mods, this is a thread about the Nexus line in general, even if I am referencing the Galaxy Nexus. Please don't move.
Not sure if anyone else is following the official unveiling of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but it is a Verizon-branded, Verizon-bloatware phone (2 Verizon apps. Whether it's "bloatware" or not, that's semantics; they shouldn't be there).
The question at hand is whether updates are still pushed from Google, and not through Verizon. The fact that it's a carrier subsidized and carrier-branded phone with two carrier-related apps makes it possible that it updates may have to go through Verizon first. This would defeat the purpose of what the Nexus line is supposed to be, if true.
Yet the bigger question is: What does a Nexus phone represent now? Many are up in arms about it, and it's a question for all Nexus fans/users.
My understanding is that the Sprint Nexus S 4G also includes Sprint apps. What is happening with the Nexus line? Is Google changing what it represents and means?
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I can't speak for all and I have the nexus s 4g SPRINT and well I was only stock for like 15 mins but we don't have ANY sprint bloat
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I could be mistaken. Thanks for clarifying. That's good.
The NS4G includes some special sprint apks with functionality to allow flashing the PRL and profile. I don't see why it's out of the question to have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus support similar stuff.
ICS has functionality to disable built-in applications on /system if you don't want them anyway.
The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
fastboot oem unlock
REALLY?
ICS has a new feature to disable apps.
That said if you buy a dev phone you will format and flash anyway so who cares? Not me anyway.
I'm unprepared to speak on the state of the Nexus before I even hold the new one in my hand. As a T-Mobile customer, the launch has been disappointing, but only as much so as it was for customers of every other carrier when the Nexus S launched.
I wouldn't say the nexus line is dead more than its not in the spot light
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We have never had a Nexus phone launch with a carrier partner before, so we have nothing to compare it to.
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The Nexus line receives it's updates from google servers, but they still have to go through all the regular carrier testing that phones receive. That's how it's always been. Do you think the carriers would really want an update to a phone to wreck havok on their network? It's not like these updates are trivial.
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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The Galaxy nexus is launching in Canada on Bell. So there will be a Galaxy nexus with AT&T compatible frequencies.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone
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So far I have no reason to be concerned about it. First of all, the merger may well not go through. Second, if it does go through, there's no way it will before the middle of next year. Third, even if there are no further technical, business, or legal issues from that point on it's highly unlikely they'll start disassembling the T-Mobile network for at least a few months after the deal closes. Fourth, it's part of the merger terms that T-Mobile customers will get new phones when the switch happens. Fifth, since the GSM Galaxy Nexus works on AT&T and T-Mobile bands, there's a good chance it will work on a combined network anyway.
So I wouldn't go so far as to mute your cautionary note- even with those caveats there are still important concerns- but I would perhaps turn it down a notch or two.
Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
Yeah it probably will work on both carriers. Good point there. So that part of my argument I guess is moot.
I still stand by my opinion on the TRUE Nexus experience having disappeared when the NS4G came out.
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Isn't the GSM version quad band anyway?
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The Galaxy Nexus is the first pentaband phone running Android. It will run on any GSM 3G network in the world.
Wait a sec though.....thats 3g. NOT 4g. What's the deal with HSPA+ compatibility bands? I guess I'm not QUITE ready to ditch the ATT/T-Mo issue yet.
It's pentaband hspa+ which by default means it will also be pentaband 3g
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there are also confirming some GN are coming SIM LOCKED! by the carriers
bloatware + SIM locking is everything against the basic ideal behind Nexus
so, in a way, seems like Nexus is slowly fading away... it just seems to stand for new AOSP now, no more of its original self
even the hardware has been sucking since Nexus S
it's sinking into a mere reference phone for development
In the US, the average consumer prefers the carrier-subsidized model, they have shown this with their wallets.
Nexus One tried selling from just a website.
Nexus S tried selling in a big box retailer.
Galaxy Nexus is now carrier-subsidized, carrier-branded.
As I think irishrally already said, as long as fastboot oem unlock is enabled, just accept that as all we really want anway
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That's NOT how it works. Maybe for certain carriers. I know for a fact that T-Mobile does not recognize the Nexus S as a phone they support/sell. When i was grabbing one back last December, they made it clear to me over the phone that they offer ZERO support for the phone or any of its problems (reboot 5 times a day, anyone?) All "support" comes from the phone's radios ability to communicate on T-Mo towers, and Google's OTA updates, which I think we can agree were shoddy at best. T-Mo doesn't want to have anything to do with the NS updates.
Sprint, on the other hand, has some updates they perform on their end. It's all carrier-dependent. The idea of the perfect Nexus line staying completely pure went to hell when the NS4G was released, and when Google decided to screw over GSM Nexus S users with the Google Wallet thing. Don't think for a second that there wasn't money changing hands over that 4g exlusive release.
I think, in this case, Verizon's just being dicks as usual and strong-arming everyone. Google could have told them to stick it where the sun dont shine, but would have missed out on the biggest portion of the market in the US.
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Also, as far as people on T-Mo being disappointed or not -- I'd be wary of purchasing ANY new phone based off T-Mo compatibility with the pending takeover by AT&T. Yet another reason I WONT be getting this phone.
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I really hope sprint didn't waste money on wallet 4g users are such a small subset I think its a small beta and with sprint nit having many people soo
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Hello I am considering purchasing a Nexus S to take advantage of google wallet and NFC. I have a few questions before I buy, any helpful info would be appreciated!
1.I'm going to be getting a sprint branded nexus s and flashing to boost mobile. Will the nfc and google wallet features still work ok?
2.Do both 3G and 4G nexus s support these features?
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Hello I am considering purchasing a Nexus S to take advantage of google wallet and NFC. I have a few questions before I buy, any helpful info would be appreciated!
1.I'm going to be getting a sprint branded nexus s and flashing to boost mobile. Will the nfc and google wallet features still work ok?
2.Do both 3G and 4G nexus s support these features?
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1. Not sure but nexus phones are unbranded so as long as the frequencies are the same your fine
2. Only the nexus s 4G has Google wallet officially(think you need to be in us as well)
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im with sprint and i had the htc evo 4g for a long time then had sprint switch it for a nexus s 4g and i have never been happier. im running ICS as a daily *STABLE* driver with g-wallet! the nexus s will still continue to get google updates before any other phone for a while longer. so im sure youll love the phone!
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So, I've been running 4.03 with the UCKF1 radio since December, but I'm really wanting a stock update from Google. Why haven't they released anything for the 9020a at all? It's just a different radio from the 9020T and now the 9020T has seen 2 ICS revisions, while if I chose to only use the official OTA process, I'd still be on GB. Is Google finally going to release something for the 9020a now?
I don't believe anyone here can answer you with 100% certainty.
I still believe however that if we didn't see a release, there's a reason. But people aren't too good at the waiting game.
I'm starting to think 9020A may not be a nexus.
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I am pretty sure you won't see a difference. Might as well stick with what you have. Also 4.0.4 is out too
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Waiting for 4.0.4 for my nexus s...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
well it just a matter to wait and see....
According to JBQ, Google is waiting for Operator Approval. Same thing with Sprint...
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i don't undestand why manufacturers hates "a" versions, already happened to me with a Sony E. X10 "A" version, never was updated correctly.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Google is waiting for AT&T's approval before the i9020a release. At least that is what JBQ from Google implied today.
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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AT&T doesn't have anything to do with the software. They are just sent the ROMs for testing. Unless you are implying Google is adding it to Nexus devices?
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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At times like this I really do hate the North American carriers. I was pretty misinformed up to this point as to the nature of android updates on the nexus phones. I was always under this blissfully ignorant impression that it was fully under google's control to push updates at their sole discretion. Sort of like the advertising led me to believe.
So now that false belief has become painfully apparent to me, replaced with the knowledge that the carriers still have the ultimate say.
I doubt very much now that this update will be seen any time soon OTA in Canada if Telus has any say in the matter. Hopefully AT&T will authorize it soon so we can at least get a factory image we can flash ourselves.
Yes this wait is hella annoying especilly since i've been forced to use i9020t as base for mine but for those who are adventurous you can download the factory image for the i9020t from https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/soju-imm76d-factory-ca4ae9ee.tgz and slectively flash boot.img and system.img.
You just need to unlock bootloader (backup first it wipes device) download the archive, extract the boot.img and system.img and flash them.
The commands are:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
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Probably waiting for a new CarrierIQ binary
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Can't tell if trolling or not.....
What else is there that would require carrier approval?
Then again, perhaps the carriers selling the 9020A have been diligently testing a new radio file over the last three and a half months.
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They need to test a new radio because the at&t radios are slow on 3g. I have to use the older kb3 radio just to get barely usable 3g speed
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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I made an XDA account just to comment on this issue.
When I bought my i9020a Nexus S from AT&T, I was under the impression that the only difference between this and the T-Mobile model was the radio/antenna. I was also under the impression that updates would be carrier-agnostic, since it is a Nexus device after all.
So why the hell does T-Mobile always get the updates instantly, seemingly not having to wait for approval? T-Mobile is a carrier just like AT&T, but it seems like T-Mobile users don't have to wait for carrier approval like we do on AT&T.
What is there to approve? Is approval from AT&T really necessary for changing the radio file?
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You'll excuse carriers for not wanting to cripple their networks because some radios might be misbehaving...
Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
Not too long ago, everyone found GB to be nice and dandy, now everyone wants to flee from it like the plague. The update will come in due time, and I for one largely prefer a polished version rather than one with issues.
So far the ICS release has seen enough bugs, some that even warranted a pull on the plug. I don't feel the rush to upgrade to something that won't work right...
My 2 cents
So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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Seriously, I don't get it. Why so impatient? Is anyone in a life or death situation regarding the ICS release?
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I don't think there would be as much outrage if ICS hadn't been released for any version of the Nexus S yet.
It's not that people are upset that they don't have ICS; they're upset because some versions of the Nexus S have gotten updates while theirs have not.
Google promoted the Nexus line of phones as getting updates "as soon as they are available," because the updates are independent of the carriers, since they're supposed to come directly from Google. People were sold on the promise that there wouldn't be several months of delays between new Android versions and Nexus phone updates because it was a "pure Google" phone.
The news that apparently the carriers need to "approve" Nexus builds before Google pushes them out flies in the face of what Google told people they were getting.
The T-Mobile Nexus S now has 4.0.4, and my AT&T Nexus S doesn't even have 2.3.6 yet. So much for always having the latest available version.
That's why people are upset.
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So all of us using a 9020a on a carrier other that AT&T are at the mercy of AT&T when it comes to updates on our Nexus phones? That wasn't what I signed up for when I chose a Google branded device on my Canadian carrier...
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The delay is probably not just AT&T. Canadian carriers are known for taking longer to test updates than even AT&T. Who exactly Google is waiting on right now is not exactly clear.
I'm on Rogers and I rather buy the Telus version of the HTC One X because it comes in a charcoal colour. However, can someone tell me if I can unlock the phone with ease and use it on Rogers? Are there any custom roms available to flash on Telus' HTC One X so that I can get better performance and eliminate the carrier branding on the phone?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=telus+htc+one+x+on+rogers
Beamed from my TN Special Edition powered HOXL on Rogers.
lsquare said:
I'm on Rogers and I rather buy the Telus version of the HTC One X because it comes in a charcoal colour. However, can someone tell me if I can unlock the phone with ease and use it on Rogers? Are there any custom roms available to flash on Telus' HTC One X so that I can get better performance and eliminate the carrier branding on the phone?
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Other than the colour, electronically, the phones are identical.
There are a plethora of threads to read here to get yourself rooted and using custom ROMs. That being said; the TELUS ROM unlike Rogers has no carrier specific branding or software on it except for 1, unobstructed application.
Q&A...Q&A...Q&A (that's where all question threads belong)
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WorldIRC said:
Other than the colour, electronically, the phones are identical.
There are a plethora of threads to read here to get yourself rooted and using custom ROMs. That being said; the TELUS ROM unlike Rogers has no carrier specific branding or software on it except for 1, unobstructed application.
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Thanks for the information. Is there a free way to unlock the phone? Do you have any suggestions on what is the best way to unlock the phone?
there are plenty of unlocking services on ebay for less than $10.
I'm not aware of a free way of SIM-unlocking like there was on the Desire Z/G2.
I also have a dedicated guide on the Telus HOX in my signature as well if you want a step-by-step on unlocking the bootloader and getting custom roms on your Telus variant.
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there are plenty of unlocking services on ebay for less than $10.
I'm not aware of a free way of SIM-unlocking like there was on the Desire Z/G2.
I also have a dedicated guide on the Telus HOX in my signature as well if you want a step-by-step on unlocking the bootloader and getting custom roms on your Telus variant.
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Thanks for the information.
Can you confirm whether I can just drop by any Telus store and buy the HOX off contract without any hassles? What is the lowest price off contract? Is it better to buy from FS/BB or the Telus store?
Which Tom are you using? Is the Cyanogen 10 Nightly build compatible with this version of the One X? I think it's Te international version of the HOX that is compatible, but I would like to know.
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Thanks for the information.
Can you confirm whether I can just drop by any Telus store and buy the HOX off contract without any hassles? What is the lowest price off contract? Is it better to buy from FS/BB or the Telus store?
Which Tom are you using? Is the Cyanogen 10 Nightly build compatible with this version of the One X? I think it's Te international version of the HOX that is compatible, but I would like to know.
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If it says AT&T Rogers Telstra HTC One X it basicly means our phone. I belive we do have a Cm10 build by h8. Personally I got my One X from Ebay which is a fair bit cheaper and as long as it's a non AT&T you don't need to worry at ALL about rooting the phone
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Thanks for the information.
Can you confirm whether I can just drop by any Telus store and buy the HOX off contract without any hassles? What is the lowest price off contract? Is it better to buy from FS/BB or the Telus store?
Which Tom are you using? Is the Cyanogen 10 Nightly build compatible with this version of the One X? I think it's Te international version of the HOX that is compatible, but I would like to know.
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If you have the money, going to the Telus store is your best bet. If you go to FS/BB or any other 3rd party, they run heavy on commission so they may pressure you into signing a new contract. Telus stores aren't as heavy and I have bought many phones off contract by simply asking them. It will still be locked, though you can ask them to unlock it for you since you're not getting it subsidized.
I am running CleanROM 4.5 Final and I love it. Very stable and very good on battery. I tried NT and others, but the stock look of Sense 4.0 is very appealing to me. There is a version of CM10 that is available here. I'm not a fan of nightlies so I don't use it personally.
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If you have the money, going to the Telus store is your best bet. If you go to FS/BB or any other 3rd party, they run heavy on commission so they may pressure you into signing a new contract. Telus stores aren't as heavy and I have bought many phones off contract by simply asking them. It will still be locked, though you can ask them to unlock it for you since you're not getting it subsidized.
I am running CleanROM 4.5 Final and I love it. Very stable and very good on battery. I tried NT and others, but the stock look of Sense 4.0 is very appealing to me. There is a version of CM10 that is available here. I'm not a fan of nightlies so I don't use it personally.
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What's wrong with the nightlies? Is it not stable? If I go with CM10, then I'll lose Sense right? If so, it's not a big deal for me. I want as close to ICS/Jelly Bean as possible. I'd go with the Galaxy Nexus if it wasn't for the fact that it doesn't have LTE.
Are you sure Telus will even consider unlocking the phone for me if I buy it off contract? I have a feeling they won't.
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What's wrong with the nightlies? Is it not stable? If I go with CM10, then I'll lose Sense right? If so, it's not a big deal for me. I want as close to ICS/Jelly Bean as possible. I'd go with the Galaxy Nexus if it wasn't for the fact that it doesn't have LTE.
Are you sure Telus will even consider unlocking the phone for me if I buy it off contract? I have a feeling they won't.
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You can always ask. Some of the associates there are not so bright. Example, the guy who gave me my HOX didn't know a single thing about it. Pretty sure I heard his manager fire him on my way out.
The nightlies is just a personal opinion. Never used them so I can't comment on them, but there's something about nightly releases that doesnt sit well with me.
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Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money.
They're the exact same.
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No difference. Same phone
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Identical. Clones. One and the same. Indistinguishable.
Look the same even in the mirror!
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Look the same even in the mirror!
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No.. one has led on the right
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They all have 4G lte
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It's the same like everyone said. Who are you gonna believe xda members in the know or Tmobile sales reps that just know how to sell?
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Lol I believe you guys, thats why I asked, T-Mo reps near me don't know anything
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I'm getting the T-Mobile version of the Nexus 5 tomorrow while it's $0 down and it's only $50 more total than on the Play Store. But the firmware across all variants are the same bro. There all unlocked and there is no difference in all versions from all the carriers.
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Thanks guy, getting mine tomorrow as well! can't wait to start flashing again!
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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They are all the same. There are no AT&T, T-Mobile, or Spring variants. A Nexus is a Nexus, all pure Google. The T-Mobile rep that told you otherwise was lying to you to get you to buy a device at a markup from them.
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Ok, from what I I'm seeing, it is unatimous that they possess the same hardware and software components. I was informed by T-Mobile when I called that the reason their version cost more money was that it is LTE capable or 4g, some bs they were telling me. Wont this affect the rome I would have to use, are the rot methods and unlock methods as well as rome the same? Like I can run a rom for the nexus 5 unlocked ON the T-Mo version?
Thanks brews
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All I have to say is "lol... Uninformed salesmen".
They all have LTE there's no difference
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At least you came here first.
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mikeacela said:
Hi, Im looking for some understanding between the T-Mobile Nexus 5 and the Unlocked Google Play Nexus 5.
I know that it is possible that several iterations of these type of explanations have gone on buried in these forums but I don't have much time to read through and have an in-depth understanding. I plan to buy one of these two versions today or tomorrow. Can someone explain the advantages and disadvantages of owning each of them with respect to the dev community? I used to install a lot of custom roms and nightlies on my previous nexus phones. If it is seen that the unlocked version has more development (which I'm sure it does) Ill will buy that but I will be on tmobile anyway. Thanks for your time. Please don't get upset at my post, I understand why people my be upset.
As you can see by my signature, its outdated. I currently own a Moto X which has little dev support on the bootloader locked versions. Looking to get into flashing again. The reason for this post is that somehow its cheaper for me to get the T-mobile version, but If the development section is in favor of the unlocked version, then I rather spend the extra money.
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Like everyone else said, it's the same phone. Google offers a subsidy on the phone when you directly buy from them, T-mobile will lose money if they do the same, so the pricing is mainly for business reasons. Go with whatever that's the cheapest for you, you won't notice any differences. Hope that helped
Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.
mikeacela said:
Only reason I'm even considering the T-mo nexus for more money is because they cancel early termination fees, and it would cost me more to buy the phone from the play store and cancel my contract with verizon. I've always been a nexus fanboy. Ive had the Nexus 1 and Galaxy nexus. I wanted to get the nexus 4 but as expected, verizon and google didn't partner for it. Now I hate verizon and am ditching lol.
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A downside of getting it from T-Mobile is they only offer the 16gb version. Just something to take into consideration if that's not enough storage on a phone for you.
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Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums
mikeacela said:
Got my phone guys! Tmo, 16 gigs is fine for me
thanks for the help, look forward to hitting the forums
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Enjoy!
Most Definitely!
Pirateghost said:
They all have 4G lte
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FYI, to reiterate, they are the same device. However, the reason for the price difference is because Google discounts the phone in the Play Store whereas T-Mobile is selling the device at the suggested retail price. It's nice to know that some carriers do allow people to own a pure Android device without carrier bloatware.