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Im not sure if this has been discussed before as I did search but cant find anything.
Today I called T-Mobile for the first time to complaint that my MMS is not working (known problem for samsung galaxy s 4g) and asking them when is the update available to fix this issue, and My SMS is in and out as well ?
I didnt tell him what program I have/downloaded on the phone since he didnt ask.
I get transfered straight to higher (level 2) technical support. He said dont touch the phone while he was checking something and the phone will reboot. The phone did reboot and the SMS get fixed.
This is what Alarmed me so much.
The tech support ( I wont publish his name here) know exactly what software I have on the phone (downloaded from the market), what is currently running, he also know I have advance task manager among other thing.
He even knew my Gmail address I use on the phone and google market account.
How is this possible ?
Is there anyway I can block this because I dont like when T-mobile snooping on my phone. If they can see the apps I downloaded on my phone and know my gmail address, know what apps currently running, Can they also access my email through my phone ?
Honestly never heard of that. Thats wild!
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Logmein app ? That's the only thing I can suspect
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Logmein app ? That's the only thing I can suspect
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I dont have that app on my phone
dude there are 30 plus million subscribers in t-mobile. unless your a celebrity or a son of bill gates or something they wont waste their time nosing on what you install or who you talk to everyday. anyway that less of your problems if you stress about that, they got your full name and ssn in file and a credit card number. if thay wanted to mess you up thats what they will go for.
I wouldn't sweat it too much, it's just like any computer service company that can push updates to your computer.. All they did was push an update and had your phone reboot.. Now if you had some terrorist shizah on there, then I'd be worried, but other than that, they've probably already forgotten about you!
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dude there are 30 plus million subscribers in t-mobile. unless your a celebrity or a son of bill gates or something they wont waste their time nosing on what you install or who you talk to everyday. anyway that less of your problems if you stress about that, they got your full name and ssn in file and a credit card number. if thay wanted to mess you up thats what they will go for.
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Dude
last time i see this is still USA where privacy matter whether you are celebrity or not.
You wouldnt enter someone else house without asking for permission wont you (unless if you want to get arrested ) ?
The guy didnt ask for permission and I never give my approval for Tmobile to snoop into my phone.
Like I said it suprise me for the tech support to mention the apps I downloaded , running in the background and my gmail account associated to my phone and market account.
Those action has nothing to do with fixing my SMS connection ???
It doesn't surprise me at all. The OTA capabilities are there in a lot of devices, including your DSL or cable modem. Google owns everything you do on your Android phone, including your location even when you're not doing anything. Unfortunately, the Facebook mentality about privacy is winning.
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I dont have that app on my phone
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Unless you removed it, yes, you do.
I was surprised to see it on my phone as well since I hadn't installed it.. talk about bloat... why would the phone come stock with this?
They've been doing this for years, it's nothing new at all.. Notice how you call and they automatically know what kind of phone you have? Same premise. I've called multiple times with phones that were unlocked from other networks also, they could see the phone, and never cared. Take off your tinfoil hat, there's nothing to worry about.
Yea they said let me check it to look up what phone u have and what faqs and problems. Dont be alarmed
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They've been doing this for years, it's nothing new at all.. Notice how you call and they automatically know what kind of phone you have? Same premise. I've called multiple times with phones that were unlocked from other networks also, they could see the phone, and never cared. Take off your tinfoil hat, there's nothing to worry about.
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No matter what phone you have, T-Mobile (and I'd assume AT&T) can find out what phone you are using, even if it's not a T-Mobile branded phone.
I wouldn't worry, they aren't gonna do some stupid **** with that, they just did that to repair your phone. I honestly doubt they'd risk losing a customer over a little thing like that.
Google is the one you should be worried about. They know where your phone is, exactly to the millimeter (I don't think that really works with the Vibrant though. xD).
u called to get your phone fixed didnt you? and they did just that didnt they? if you are so worried about your privacy i got a old motorola razr sitting in my closet, ill gladly trade your sgs4
Google is the devil, and will take over the planet, and join steve jobs. Put on your tin foil hats!
To further this, its done through rescue me. It is built into the kernel. On the Vibrant froyo leaks i have leaked out it is there also. We just remove the Rescue Me app.
I can remove the drivers and credentials from the kernel if people are that concerned about it. I wouldnt be though.
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A sysctl to enable/disable would be my personal choice, but I have yet to build custom kernels for Android (though have for FreeBSD and OpenWRT) so I don't know how feasible that is with the source access we have.
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Dude
last time i see this is still USA where privacy matter whether you are celebrity or not.
You wouldnt enter someone else house without asking for permission wont you (unless if you want to get arrested ) ?
The guy didnt ask for permission and I never give my approval for Tmobile to snoop into my phone.
Like I said it suprise me for the tech support to mention the apps I downloaded , running in the background and my gmail account associated to my phone and market account.
Those action has nothing to do with fixing my SMS connection ???
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I'm a computer repair tech. One of the first questions I'm going to ask is have you installed any new hardware or software? Most of the time I've found out software was the root problem of the issue. Not always, just Most of the time. So, it doesn't supprise me that he can see what is installed on your phone. It gives him a idea of what the problem can be. I would be more concerned what NSA or space aliens are doing with your phone.
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Take off your tinfoil hat, there's nothing to worry about.
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Put on your tin foil hats!
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I'm a computer repair tech. I would be more concerned what space aliens are doing with your phone.
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Pass that roll of tin foil will you fellas ?
I like mine shaped like a tricorne .
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A sysctl to enable/disable would be my personal choice, but I have yet to build custom kernels for Android (though have for FreeBSD and OpenWRT) so I don't know how feasible that is with the source access we have.
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Its not in the source. Its in the initramfs. There are also binaries in /system/bin
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Granted there are glaring inaccuracies in this article, but the woman who was blocked was using a droid X. Anyone seen this yet on their phones?
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/verizon_blocks_hotspot_tethering_for_jailbroken_de.php
I laughed reading this article. We've had people here using 40+ gb and weren't moved. I have no worries with mine.
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The fact that they use the word jailbroken throughout the entire article throws it credibility out the window for me.
I have ginger bread and tether with wireless tether app beta 3.2 works perfect and full speed
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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Exactly, my reason for posting this was to see if anyone had started getting screwed....
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Verizon knows if you're tethering or not. So far they haven't chosen to do anything about it, but if you read your contract (actually read it) you'll see that they can really screw you if they want to, and you'll get no reach around...
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How do they know?
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How do they know?
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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They can monitor from software in the Android OS built into the stock VZW rom and sometimes watching the network traffic can point to good clues also
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So, that means if we are using a custom rom then they can only know by watching network traffic?
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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VZW knows because I doubt that your phone has IE to browse the web, or Safari for that matter, and other such things can tell them quite easily if you are tethering or not, disregarding the amount of data transferred. Add in the amount of data transferred, and you kind of stick out like a sore thumb when you're tethering.
Also, the hotspot monitoring stuff on the phone doesn't do anything besides watch to see if you are tethering illegally or not, so I'm pretty sure that if you did try to press the legality point of view, they'd come back and dig into whether or not you were tethering, cause odds are, if you are bringing up this point, it is for a reason.
I came from the Droid X and with the GB update and the baseband update they can now tell if you are tethering. Verizon warned the devs and the devs took notice for the moto roms. Those devs no longer provide nor will endorse root tethering apps. There was something about liability issues so the devs are abiding by Verizon's wishes. They are telling all that if you want to tether, pay the monthly fee for the service. Therefore; when the Charge gets the official GB update with baseband, tether at your own risk if you are not paying for it.
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IMNUTS is correct. When you are using a tethering app, your data packets are preceeded with a special code that identifies that packet as being tethered. Verizon is now monitoring these. Black Hat had a hack that yoy could change that code, but they removed that a long time ago for obvious reasons. They now suggest not using it and just pay the money for tethering. This is why devs are no longer including the root tethering apps to give free tethering with their roms anymore. Too much risk to them personally for something that most do for fun.
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VZ most definitely can tell when you are tethering, though by using custom roms/kernels and using disguised tethering apps it just makes it less obvious... I doubt they're really gonna care tbh unless you're hitting some ridiculous number like say 30+ gigs a month, cuz seriously just using the phone normally it shouldn't be that high. From there they can choose to throttle your data speeds or drop your unlimited data plan altogether... also there is no way around this as they block/slow data server-side so its under their control
tl;dr they can almost 100% tell you're tethering and might take action, but probably won't unless you're retarded and pulling in a hundred gigs a month in PHONE data
I only tether when I'm on business or somewhere for a while that doesn't have wifi. So I use less than 2g of data a month. I doubt they'd hunt me down, some of these people who tether 15+ gigs a month may have issues soon.
nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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Is it even legal for them to monitor your phone in such a way? The ROM bit, that is.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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nobody happen to read the pdf posted in the comments of that site? Apparently Verizon cannot restrict you of downloading a tether program and using the data as such. When Verizon purchased the 700mhz spectrum for their LTE service they agreed they would not " deny, limit, or restrict the ability of
[its] customers to use the devices and applications of their choice". To me that sounds like Verizon is stepping outside their rights... However we end users agreeing to their terms and services might negate that all together.
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this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
this goes back to the contract as well you can use whatever program you want but when it comes to using their network its their rules
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true, but fact is they are not following their agreement to the company they purchased the service from. Also, in verizon's contract they state if they change their service in anyway that has a negative impact on your account\service you are free to opt out of their contract free of charge (so I read back when tier data was being set forth). That being said blocking tethering might be a plausible reason for early termination of contract, legally.
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when you blindly sign a contract they can generally do as they please, you have a choice but the alternative is to not have a cell phone :/
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Not necessarily... The contract's terms still have to be legal, and their conduct regarding that contract has to be legal.
If you sign a contract to kill someone wanting to commit suicide and you follow through with it, you are still lawfully going to be tried for murder.
Verizon is still subject to privacy laws, regardless of what the contract says. I think even if they know you are tethering, which at this point seems more like an educated guess, I don't know if they can really be too audacious with reprimanding people. There's a whole mess of legal implications stemming from the aforementioned agreement when they purchased that spectrum that I think they're not willing to taunt just yet, if ever.
There is a kernel module that is in the code that specifies tethering or not. You can't use wifi without the module, as I already tried. There is a by-pass that is being used on the Fascinate, but we haven't had any confirmation about whether it works or not, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of implementing an un-proven work around just so people can tether illegally. If you want to tether, take the risk of getting caught, or pay $30.
i did the update att sent me the other day and the first time i tethered after doing it was last night then this morning i get a msg from att to call them. so i did and they informed me they knew i was tethering but could not tell me how they new i was doing it. so now i am thinking about a new rom. i will reroot first and see if it replaced the tethering apk. if anyone has any information on this update please let me know. i was going to copy the msg they sent to me for the update but it conveniently del'd itself on reboot.
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i did the update att sent me the other day and the first time i tethered after doing it was last night then this morning i get a msg from att to call them. so i did and they informed me they knew i was tethering but could not tell me how they new i was doing it. so now i am thinking about a new rom. i will reroot first and see if it replaced the tethering apk. if anyone has any information on this update please let me know. i was going to copy the msg they sent to me for the update but it conveniently del'd itself on reboot.
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People have been getting nailed right and left, seemingly regardless of ROM. I don't think the update has anything to do with it, they're likely doing some packet inspection to determine what OS the packets are originating from.
when i called in regarding the nasty gram. she emphasized to update my phone. so im guess that is where it is coming from. id agree with you.
Yeah, looks like it was the update. It's weird that all of you got caught those,
I tethered a decent amount a few days ago(don't care if anyone knows, even you AT&T spies!) while my home internet was out, not a thing.
Guess we know not to use any new updates from AT&T until we find out how they detect us without tetheringmanager.apk..
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It's because you're using a stock ROM. I believe there's a service (though I can't for the life of me remember what it's called) that can detect if you're tethering or not. Custom ROMs remove the service so they can't tell.
Im on infused 2.2.3 and I tethered a little bit today and have not gotten anything yet, seems to working fine.
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Im on infused 2.2.3 and I tethered a little bit today and have not gotten anything yet, seems to working fine.
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I think the majority of people who are getting nailed are using LARGE amounts of data i know one guy posted he has used 8 gig of data just on tethering
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the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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yea but the guy above that i mentioned is on track for using 32 + gigs .. in tethering
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I think the majority of people who are getting nailed are using LARGE amounts of data i know one guy posted he has used 8 gig of data just on tethering
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Yeah, I used that much the other week... I've been running CM7 so I'm pretty sure that AT&T is doing some packet sniffing to see the useragent of the packets coming through. I don't think it has to do with the OS you're running.
I got a nastygram saying to stop by September 30th or they'll charge me. So far this month I've use 18gb so I'm sucking as much as I can before they cut me off!!
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the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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yea but the guy above that i mentioned is on track for using 32 + gigs .. in tethering
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Whammy!!! Double whammy!! Triple whammy!!! I thought I used net a lot cos I use close to 1.5 GB a month at peak times.. with my avg around 1 GB, and no tethering whatsoever. No wonder AT&T is tracking on tethering users.
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Whammy!!! Double whammy!! Triple whammy!!! I thought I used net a lot cos I use close to 1.5 GB a month at peak times.. with my avg around 1 GB, and no tethering whatsoever. No wonder AT&T is tracking on tethering users.
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This month is the most data I've ever used, and that's 4.2GB right now.... I don't get how you suck up so much data.... maybe lots of videos..... you know..... lol.
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Bloat Freeze to block the tethering.apk It won't phone home then ;-)
Works for me and I just updated using the recent 14MB (I think) file the other day. and tethered for a few hours....so far so good anyway.
My wife who has a Streak just got her nasty gram yesterday, now she does tether ALOT, but her phone does not even show a disclaimer for the mobile hotspot like ours does. So, i dont think it has anything to do with the update.
I dont tether alot but I do tether and most months stay around 8-10gigs. (most of that is actually on my phone, I like Netflix)
She is pissed because out where we live we do not have any high speed internet options but we have AWESOME data speeds with ATT but none of the other carriers have anything close. we thought about getting one of those mifi hotspots but ATT only has a 5gig one and that is just a joke to to think 3 teens and 2 adults are going to make that work.
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This month is the most data I've ever used, and that's 4.2GB right now.... I don't get how you suck up so much data.... maybe lots of videos..... you know..... lol.
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Online gaming is another way. While tethering. i used to Play WoW through my cell while tethering with my old Cappy.
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actually i would be paying the same price i am not for an UNLIMITED data plan to go down to a 4gb plan that allows me to tether. But when I got my Unlimited Plan there was nothing said about not being alowed to tether my phone. to my PC actually the rep in the store showed me how to do it with my old tilt.
Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
Got a letter in the mail today dying they're going to add tethering and I haven't done it in 4 months. The hell??????
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Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
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Nothing to do with amount of data.. I get the letter after tethering for 5 mind last week. Actually never got the connection to work.
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Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
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You haven't gotten yourself unlimited? I had someone do it for me(don't know their XDA user), and I love it.
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This is a copy/paste from my thread in the general Q&A section.
So about half a year ago AT&T waved their magic wand and detected my tethering on my Infuse 4G on stock Froyo with tethermanager.apk frozen. These days I'm on Miui (2.3.7 AOSP based) and I came up with a theory - use Orbot (Tor for Android) and its mode that routes tethering through the Tor network, onion routing it securely. Would AT&T be able to detect it?
I was using it quite a bit yesterday, and haven't gotten anything yet. I was tethering an OG Asus Transformer running ICS.
Anybody have ideas? Does Orbot protect you from deep packet sniffing?
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This is a copy/paste from my thread in the general Q&A section.
So about half a year ago AT&T waved their magic wand and detected my tethering on my Infuse 4G on stock Froyo with tethermanager.apk frozen. These days I'm on Miui (2.3.7 AOSP based) and I came up with a theory - use Orbot (Tor for Android) and its mode that routes tethering through the Tor network, onion routing it securely. Would AT&T be able to detect it?
I was using it quite a bit yesterday, and haven't gotten anything yet. I was tethering an OG Asus Transformer running ICS.
Anybody have ideas? Does Orbot protect you from deep packet sniffing?
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Orbot is the same as tor tho, so that means it can't anonymize ur data. Only ur access points and IP address. Deep packet sniffing can be prevented by using https sites instead of just HTTP since it encrypts your data. From what I've thought, Att detects tethering from the user agent of your browser.
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Orbot is the same as tor tho, so that means it can't anonymize ur data. Only ur access points and IP address. Deep packet sniffing can be prevented by using https sites instead of just HTTP since it encrypts your data. From what I've thought, Att detects tethering from the user agent of your browser.
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Can they detect user agent (I hear they do deep packet sniffing too) if you're tunneling through a VPN or using tor?
Also Tor encrypts everything multiple times.
I tether my tablet through the built in tethering in CM7 on the Infuse, been doing so for 6 months or so when I need info on the go. Never been bothered by AT&T, am I just lucky? Or is it harder to detect because of CM7?
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I tether my tablet through the built in tethering in CM7 on the Infuse, been doing so for 6 months or so when I need info on the go. Never been bothered by AT&T, am I just lucky? Or is it harder to detect because of CM7?
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I don't think its detectable on aosp roms like miui or cm7 because of the different user agent
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I don't think its detectable on aosp roms like miui or cm7 because of the different user agent
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It is detectable on AOSP rooms like CM7. They are able to look at the way data is transfered. It is only a matter of time until they get it perfected. Until then some will be able to get by without them noticing as long as you don't use a lot of data to attract attention.
Oh and on a side not MIUI is not AOSP. As AOSP stand for Android Open Source Project and MIUI is not open source. It is a closed version of CM coding.
As a side note here: I wasn't using alot of data and I received emails and txt saying I had to stop tethering. I was only using my Xbox for online gaming, which each game was only a couple megabytes.
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As a side note here: I wasn't using alot of data and I received emails and txt saying I had to stop tethering. I was only using my Xbox for online gaming, which each game was only a couple megabytes.
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Are you surprised they caught you? Really?
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It is detectable on AOSP rooms like CM7. They are able to look at the way data is transfered. It is only a matter of time until they get it perfected. Until then some will be able to get by without them noticing as long as you don't use a lot of data to attract attention.
Oh and on a side not MIUI is not AOSP. As AOSP stand for Android Open Source Project and MIUI is not open source. It is a closed version of CM coding.
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I learn something new everyday. Thanks.
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next time they tell you that they know you are tethering, ask them how. snooping your internet data for user agents is a privacy issue, and can be argued that you put your phones browser to desktop mode. using alot of data doesnt mean you are tethering too. and try to limit use of strange ports too, thats a dead give away.
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next time they tell you that they know you are tethering, ask them how. snooping your internet data for user agents is a privacy issue, and can be argued that you put your phones browser to desktop mode. using alot of data doesnt mean you are tethering too. and try to limit use of strange ports too, thats a dead give away.
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Ok after reading over this. This is asking for a way to fraud att and is against XDA rules.
Thread closed.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/31/droid-charge-receiving-minor-update-to-fp5/
Only weighs in at 19.3MB using the old changelog but if you check out Verizon's document it says it's 29.30 MB.
From RW:
Corrected Issues:
1) A software change was made to support the latest requirement for eHRPD to HRPD fallback
2) A software change was made to support the latest requirement for IPV6 in EHRPD
3) A software change was made to address an issue causing a audio screeching sound to be heard when users have an active application playing in the back ground and you receive and answer an incoming call
4) A software change was made to address an issue that was causing a continuous noise or notification tone to be heard that started during a phone power up and would not stop until you pulled down the status bar in some rare cases
5) A software change was made to the calculations used for determining what is displayed to better reflect the signal available.
6) A software change was made to address an issue causing the device to drop down to 3G service earlier then it should in some cases
7) A software change was made to address an issue causing devices to show no signal and roaming when a specific PRL file (I5103) is loaded on the device
*sigh*
One of the notes is that USB tethering is Disabled when on WiFi, under the updated system. Has anyone determined if the WiFi thethering hotspot hacks will still work?
I wonder if we'll get a pbj for this since he sold his charge and all.
Also the fcc just ruled that vzw isn't allowed to block tethering and in the release notes they say that they removed the "upgrade to tethering" button in mobile hotspot.
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I totally feel your pain...
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any idea when this is going to roll out?
Before the rezound gets ics.
Military grade i-510
romsRfun said:
Before the rezound gets ics.
Military grade i-510
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Maybe before official ICS, but we have leaks and we have AOSP.
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JihadSquad said:
Also the fcc just ruled that vzw isn't allowed to block tethering
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Note that it only applies to tiered data plans. They're still well within their rights to block tethering for those with unlimited plans.
Cilraaz said:
Note that it only applies to tiered data plans. They're still well within their rights to block tethering for those with unlimited plans.
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Yeah I guess they would try anything to get people off unlimited...
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My layman's reading was that it applied to everyone, but the main point was that they could not try to block 3rd party tethering apps anymore. Could explain why WiFi Tether showed up in the Market. From my reading the tiered vs. unlimited point was mainly used by Verizon as a defense.
shrike1978 said:
My layman's reading was that it applied to everyone, but the main point was that they could not try to block 3rd party tethering apps anymore. Could explain why WiFi Tether showed up in the Market. From my reading the tiered vs. unlimited point was mainly used by Verizon as a defense.
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My using the term "block" was incorrect. Essentially, they can still charge the tethering fee to those on unlimited plans...
In addition, the company recently revised its service offerings such that consumers on usage-based
pricing plans may tether, using any application, without paying an additional fee.
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The FCC had no problem with that: Source
All i care to see is the "new ui"
So this will probably hit this time next week?!
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bubarub said:
So this will probably hit this time next week?!
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Since its been approved... The answer is... It depends.
Military grade i-510
Hopefully this little update hits today
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/10/droid-charge-update-to-fp5-finally-ready/
So, since this is the second time its been posted... should we expect this next week sometime?!
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I keep thinking I'm going to get a new phone as soon as I can. Dwitherell is doing a great job on developing roms but Imnuts is not doing kernels for the charge any more. Development for the Charge is almost at a standstill. I'm not excited about FP5 at all. I'm never going to run stock software in a smart phone. There's just way too much bloatware.
So? Root it and remove the bloatware. I haven't installed DW's rom because my phone is critical for work and I spend too much time at work and commuting to deal with any extra issues. But I've got to say that it's been damn hard not too bite the bullet and flash it. I know it's awesome.
I've debloated it and added extended battery. 4g coverage is good and don't need gps. Yeah, we'll never see ICS or JB on this phone but it works for those that don't have to suffer the squealing.
It's first generation 4g. I don't expect the world and my laptop can more than handle anything this phone can't.
Seriously - you can see the difference just rooted and debloated. Try it.
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talk to a VZW technician today, and he said the FP5 supposedly fixes the squealing and unblocks some websites that folks were having troubles with.