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Just got the nexus s and put it on the lowest setting of brightness. What I noticed first was the pulldown bar was brownish red. Is this just a feature of the s.amoled screen or is mine different?
Anyone have this?
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baolongn said:
Just got the nexus s and put it on the lowest setting of brightness. What I noticed first was the pulldown bar was brownish red. Is this just a feature of the s.amoled screen or is mine different?
Anyone have this?
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On lowest screen brightness, the pulldown shade is just a more muted shade of the two greys that it is on brighter settings on my phone.
You've got no mods installed?
It doesn't look like grey at all. It looks like a pretty dark maroon. And I don't have any mods to the phone. Do you think the screen is faulty?
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It doesn't look like grey at all. It looks like a pretty dark maroon. And I don't have any mods to the phone. Do you think the screen is faulty?
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Does it look normal at middle and highest brightnesses? Should be shades of grey on a stock unmodded phone.
If you go to this link on the web browser in the phone, does the colors match what they look like on your computer? http://www.pptfaq.com/webcal.gif
There's definitely something not normal; not a hint of red or maroon on mine.
You've rebooted, right? Hate to suggest it, but a factory reset might clear any software caused issue before we have to say it's faulty hardware.
the shades of grey between 249 and 251 are reddish/maroon and further down the spectrum, its the same.
could it be a hardware issue? thinking of just going back to BB..
baolongn said:
the shades of grey between 249 and 251 are reddish/maroon and further down the spectrum, its the same.
could it be a hardware issue? thinking of just going back to BB..
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Yeah, it doesn't sound right to me, without actually seeing the phone.
You're going to have to try two things, the order of which is just a matter of which is more convenient to do:
1) Look at someone else's phone and see if it looks the same. If there's a Best Buy nearby go in and ask to see the demo phone turned on and look at the same screens. If the other phone you look at is the same, maybe it's just your perception, it they're different, then you know for sure you have a problem.
2) Do a factory reset just to make sure there's not a software glitch. After the reset, don't add any new apps or play with any settings until you've checked the colors to see if they're the same or have gone back to the normal greys. If same, bad hardware in my opinion, if back to normal, obviously a software glitch.
The reason I say the order you try either of those above is just personal convenience opinion is that if you're going to exchange the phone, you're going to want to factory reset (and wipe the sd card!!!) before handing the phone back to Best Buy, so if resetting up the phone isn't that big a deal to you, doing it first to troubleshoot might save you a trip to Best Buy. Reset is easy enough, though, to do right in store if you opt for the store visit first.
Let us know what you find out either way.
Will do. Thanks a lot!
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I have the exact same problem. This has happened to me three times, with three different Nexus S. I've seen a non-defective Nexus S working before, so I knew they were defective. Check YouTube reviews in HD and you will see the difference.
I had to drive 200 miles each time, just to swap this phone. During my third (and last visit) I was harassed by a Best Buy Mobile employee, who implied I was lying. He didn't want to swap it for me. It was an unbelievable situation.
He took my cellphone and ID inside and brought it back 15 minutes later saying he compared to another one, and the "defect" was in my settings. I told him it wasn't (I tried everything before driving there), and showed him the brownish/reddish tint. He told me (very impolitely) that unless I could show him the defect, he wouldn't swap it. I told him I would be pleased to, if he brought another Nexus S so I could show him the difference. He declined to do so.
(Please bear in mind that in every single return I've made, I kept the phone in intact conditions. I didn't remove ANY STICKERS. There were no marks -not even finger prints - on it. Everything was wrapped up.)
Still, he swapped my phone, saying "this is your last time, you made me lose more money than the very few dollars I would've made with you".
I was threatened, he wrote "No more returns" in my receipt, and said I would be black listed so there would be no chance of me ever swapping this phone again.
Not surprisingly, the "new phone" has the same problem.
It just amazes me how little costumer service skills was shown. I drove 200 miles. Twice (one of the times I was able to go back to the store before driving back home). I had to leave my job earlier. I need my cellphone for work. Instead of receiving apologies for this very unfortunate problem, I was humiliated in front of the entire store.
I can't exchange it now, am "black listed" and with a defective Nexus S. I will try to contact Samsung as they might be a bit more approachable than Best Buy.
I would have went straight for the store manager if an employee treated me like that. If that didn't do it a call to their corporate HQ would have done wonders. That behaviour is 100% wrong.
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I would have went straight for the store manager if an employee treated me like that. If that didn't do it a call to their corporate HQ would have done wonders. That behaviour is 100% wrong.
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He told me he was the "Store Manager". When I inquired whether he was the General Manager for the store, he told me Best Buy Mobile is a separate company. I read a bit on it, and apparently this is not entirely true.
I will try to contact corporate HQ. I'm unsure what are the odds of being heard by Best Buy, though.
Thanks for the tip.
Mine has a reddish brown tint as well on lowest brightness. But then again I have a screen protector on. I am on CM7.
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Mine has a reddish brown tint as well on lowest brightness. But then again I have a screen protector on. I am on CM7.
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Most likely it isn't the screen protector;
Mine has the same reddish brown tint even in different brightness settings. It just becomes less noticeable, but it's there, and it's different than what a regular Nexus S looks like.
I have this problem on my Nexus too, gawd this pisses me off. I just returned a MT4G because the screen sucked. I have a VIbrant as well and the screen on the Vibrant is a million times better. Good thing I still have exchange time and the 10 dollar a month insurance.
Is this something worth bringing back to bestbuy? Like is it a defect or just a consequence of the technology?
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Is this something worth bringing back to bestbuy? Like is it a defect or just a consequence of the technology?
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its not a defect when you buy brand new nexus s it has that but it will go away as you use your phone.
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its not a defect when you buy brand new nexus s it has that but it will go away as you use your phone.
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It looks terrible, I don't see how it wouldn't be a defect. It turns cyan into a green color, it's ridiculous.
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It looks terrible, I don't see how it wouldn't be a defect. It turns cyan into a green color, it's ridiculous.
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I couldn't agree more.
j0hnZ, do you have the same problem?
Sometimes I wonder whether this could be a manufacturing problem with a certain batch/series of phones. I got my Nexus S around the Seattle area.
fishfuse said:
I couldn't agree more.
j0hnZ, do you have the same problem?
Sometimes I wonder whether this could be a manufacturing problem with a certain batch/series of phones. I got my Nexus S around the Seattle area.
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I have the problem, I'm returning it to stock and exchanging it today. I also have a Vibrant and it's supposed to have the same screen but this is ridiculous. I bought mine by the Tacoma Mall yesterday.
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I have the problem, I'm returning it to stock and exchanging it today. I also have a Vibrant and it's supposed to have the same screen but this is ridiculous. I bought mine by the Tacoma Mall yesterday.
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Keep us updated if your newer one has the same issues. Considering exchanging mine as well.
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Well I took it in, I compared it against my Vibrant for them. Then we checked it against the demo model, which they said came from another batch. Both of them had the issues, I went ahead and took a different Nexus back and it still has the issue. So I don't know maybe this is just a Nexus S thing that nobody else notices unless they came from a Galaxy S.
To me it takes away from the samoled look, it looks like every other phones screen now. I can't change it though so whatever...
Hey guys - im contemplating buying a new android phone but im not sure which one to choose. i'm leaning closely to the G2X but before i place my order for it - im interested in knowing if there are any flaws that people experience.. i would like to know before i buy so i can get an idea of what is the worst to expect when i get it (cuz where i am, re-sale will be difficult)
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Hey guys - im contemplating buying a new android phone but im not sure which one to choose. i'm leaning closely to the G2X but before i place my order for it - im interested in knowing if there are any flaws that people experience.. i would like to know before i buy so i can get an idea of what is the worst to expect when i get it (cuz where i am, re-sale will be difficult)
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There's about 2 million threads here on bugs people are experiencing.
Just one example: I just looked at my phone and it was totally shut down and wouldn't power up until I pulled the battery. First time that happened.
with every phone their will be a few bugs here and there, but if you can hold out until early june, if you like sense UI's try the htc sensation. i like this phone but i'm definitely getting that.
thanks for the responses guys - i'm looking past just software bugs (i mean, its common for android) and more worried about hardware bugs - EG, a friend of mine had a mytouch 4g with screen problems - after doing some research we discovered that there were two versions of the mytouch4g and one of them (namely the taiwan version) was built with fault-prone screens.
so im interested to know about common hardware faults with the G2X Specifically
@EmceeGeek - i would but the HTC Sensation probably wont come out for the same price range as the G2X.. if there was one phone i would wait for - its the SGSII
Screen bleed seems to be a pretty common hardware issue with this phone - lots of people on this forum have it, and both the T-Mobile and LG reps I spoke with acknowledged it as a known issue. Some people don't mind it as it is only really noticeable on dark backgrounds (e.g. the startup screens from off, camera screen, etc.), but for the $500 price tag, I expect better.
Others have complained about restarts, which also seems to be a hardware issue, though I have not experienced this myself.
Battery life is another huge issue. Some people are able to get very respectable battery duration (9 hours+), while others are barely able to squeeze out 5. There are some software solutions to the battery issues, but they don't seem to work for everyone.
I'm thinking about picking up a g2x as well. I'm looking to sell my white htc evo asap (before evo 3d comes out and the price I can get for it drops) and pick up a g2x. Do you guys know if these flaws are very prominent. If so, would I be able to return the g2x, assuming the sensation comes out in June, and exchange the g2x for the sensation w/in the 30 day return window?
I've had mine since the 19th/20th and the camera/video stopped working after a few days. It still takes good pictures and video but the screen itself goes DARK when you launch the camera app or barcode scanner app etc.
Factory reset didn't fix it....it's not rooted or anything either.
Getting a replacement. Local store said a few customers came in with same problem, no resolution yet.
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Others have complained about restarts, which also seems to be a hardware issue, though I have not experienced this myself.
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What's the basis of this assumption? 2X users in Europe are being told by LG that there will be a patch released to fix their reboot issues. That would indicate software being the culprit, no?
I agree, the only hardware issue is the LCD bleeding, the rest are probably software related and a patch will be issued. I would choose the G2X over the sensation however I would wait a couple of months for the LCD bleeding to be fixed
thanks for the tip - it seems LCD Bleeding is very prominent in some members but i wish i could compile a ratio to see the odds of expecting my device to have it - are there any members who DONT have LCD Bleeding in their G2X's?
anyway if u ask me - this flaw, though a bit provoking, is nothing much to dwell on if it doesnt affect performance in any way
I hardly have any bleeding and I wouldn't have even noticed it if i hadnt read these forums. I havent had restarts or any problems at all as a matter of fac i love this phone my old blackberry feels like a dinosaur
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I agree, the only hardware issue is the LCD bleeding, the rest are probably software related and a patch will be issued. I would choose the G2X over the sensation however I would wait a couple of months for the LCD bleeding to be fixed
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Yep screen bleed is the only real widespread hardware problem with this phone (seems to be confined to early production numbers). Yhe rest is rushed software. T-mobile reps have started talking about an eminent software patch to fix the reset issue...etc.
Just fYI, I have no screen bleed and have had one reset in two weeks of otherwise continuous use (and I mean continuous). Overall I really happy with the phone.
I have been through 3 shipments and over 20 g2x's. Every single one has had varying degrees of screen bleed, from just a little in the corners to all the way in the center of the screen. Besides just the screen bleed, 70 - 80% of the devices I looked at also had brown staining along the edges of the screen when viewing a white screen such as a browser. A few were completely tinted yellow when looking at any color.
There's a new thread on the LG forum showing the screen separating from the rest of the phone, and the guy has a picture of the light coming through all the outer edges... bit worst than anything i've encountered.
Your call, but the thing is defective right now. If you insist on getting it, I would at least wait another month until possibly LG has addressed the issue. But chances are, they're not going to. This isn't a new device, its been out in Europe as an o2x for a while, and it's had the same issue since day 1.
I dont know about hardware flaws but a frequent problem I run into is that my 4g notification drops to 2g when that happens I actually have no data service I dont know if that data is rebooting itself but it happens quite often, and is really annoying when I am surfing web youtube or any other app that requires data connection. could be a t-mobile problem.
I dunno. I'm running CM7 and aside from screen bleeding I'd say the phone is a keeper.
I get awesome battery life. I can go from 8am-midnight under normal-heavy use and not worry. My screen bleed is minimal and not noticeable. Funny this forum introduced me to iPad2 screen bleeds which I knew nothing about until I looked at mine (damn you guys)
So for the most part you won't see the screen bleed in less you have a bad case of it, in which I would swap it for a new one. CM7 is finding its legs and is getting pretty close to a stable release.
The stock 2.2 kernel can be wonky which can cause battery misreadings (for better or worse) and resets in some cases. I haven't experienced any battery problems as it just runs and runs and runs. I have had resets on the leaked Gingerbread rom running on a Froyo kernel (but your asking for trouble there).
The phone comes with a 2.2 Rom which was left in Engineering mode and eventually gets sluggish and crashes. There is a patch that fixes this. Luckily most of the "major" issues are fixed by simply flashing CM7.
The screen bleed and light leak
I think they are related but still two different issues. I have been through 4 phones and they have all had light leakage. LG told me that there was a bad batch so this is not whining or anything that can be fixed by massaging or opening up the phone, and no matter what anyone says, its not something I will accept in a product I am paying 500 dollars for. Screen bleed has been varied. The one I have now is the worse of the 4, but I took it home to take photos so I could illustrate the problem. All had dates from the 14th to the 24th of April. The photos are just of the light leakage. There are enough of the bleed issue already.
I saw somewhere on the T-Mo GSII section that there was a thread of about 50 pages of people complaining that their screens, under varying brightness settings and to varying degrees, displayed some vertical "ghost" lines running up and down the screen..
I picked up a Skyrocket earlier today at the AT&T store and was disappointed to see that the screen was doing just that. Hence, me searching and finding this thread. After some thinking, I went back to the store and exchanged the Skyrocket for the Vivid, which I am even more displeased with, although for other reasons (call quality, weight, etc. Although I'm going to use it for a few days to see how it goes). I just wanted to try it out of curiosity, a restocking fee is alright for me should I decide to go back to the Skyrocket.
Has anyone else experienced this with a Skyrocket or GSII in general? I was surprised to have searched this general section and not found anything about it. The display model in the store exhibited the same "ghost" lines as well.
There is no reason to pick up any other smartphone as of now if you own a sgs2, assuming your on at&t or even international, you would have the dual core exynos, which out performs anything on the market as of now, even the skyrocket.
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That... has nothing to do with my question.
I'm not asking for specs and numbers and names. I know what all of it is, and I don't care - it's about what I want and like. And I would hope others are able to do as they please as well.
ANYWAY. No one has had any screen troubles?
I've never seen any lines on my I9100, nor heard of others having the issues described in that thread. At minimum brightness, in absolute darkness, I can see a few blobs on a black screen, but even then I have to really look for them or I won't notice. The usual complaints I've seen about I9100 screens are yellowish tint and sometimes burn-in, though I haven't experienced either of those personally.
You probably already asked in the T-Mo forum since you linked a thread from it, but I'm pretty sure the Skyrocket uses the same screen as the T989, so imo you're more likely to find useful feedback there. I'm assuming you're only interested in LTE AT&T phones, so you're probably f'd, but the I777 uses the same screen as the I9100 where I've never heard of that particular problem.
I just got the Skyrocket on Sunday and I'm having the same issue with the vertical lines. Looks pretty terrible on dark images/backgrounds in low ambient light.
I searched a ton yesterday on Google and this is first place I found someone complaining of the same problem. I can't decide whether it's good or bad to know someone else is seeing the same issue.
I have 2 international i9100's.
They both have this issue, one is more noticeable than the other, but as you say usually on low brightness/dark images. Suspect it is a result of the manufacturing process of the S-AMOLED Plus screen and if they haven't fixed it by now in the skyrocket (almost surprising but at the same time not really) they aren't going to.
For me it doesn't bother me a whole ton as I don't see it most of the time but it does kind of suck lol.
I got an international. What Anandtech calls persistence bothers me,
The situation reminds me of the early large size lcd tv days. Lines, clouding, uneven this that. In the future it will be all fixed but its not today.
No issues here.. Our only issue on our screen is the blobs, yrllowish tint and "burins"..
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Someone needs to put a sticky to keep Skyrocket discussion out of these forums.
The device is a Galaxy S II in name only and nothing else.
Shame on Samsung for diluting their brand like this... The ****rocket is going to ruin their reputation in the USA, as if AT&T's mangling of the stock ROM for the I777 didn't already.
my rogers s2 has the same issue as well
I heard about this issue before I got my SII (not Skyrocket), and even knowing about the problem and using the phone a lot at the lowest brightness I have never noticed it on my screen.
I have however noticed the yellow tint problem mentioned above, and I use Screen Adjuster to compensate for it by adding more blue.
I have the i-9100M (Canada) and the SGH-I727R (same as AT&T Skyrocket) and I don't have any issue with the screen. Had both dark and white background and didn't see any issues.
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I have the i-9100M (Canada) and the SGH-I727R (same as AT&T Skyrocket) and I don't have any issue with the screen. Had both dark and white background and didn't see any issues.
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same here, i have the same model and i have no issues at all.
Ohh wow!!! another android device, all of you have an old model device again hahaha
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I have the same problem with vertical lines on the screen. I bought my Skyrocket from Best Buy on release day and noticed the screen issue in lowest brightness on Monday. I exchanged it for another. This one has the issue as well, but it's not as bad. My wife has the i777 and hers has the vertical lines to a very minute extent; you don't even notice unless you're really looking for it.
hmmm, am i one of the few lucky individuals who do not have this issue? Or am i just blind? Is there something specific i have to do to replicate the issue? Ive tried looking at many different images, color combinations, at different brightness settings, different ambient light settings (from outside in the sun to inside a pitchblack closet) and i have not seen what everyone has been describing? I have a Captivate, Infuse, and euro I9100 (water damaged), that I have tried to compare them to, and my skyrocket looks exactly the same. I believe the Infuse uses the same screen as well and ive not a problem with that, and the cappy still looks prestine minus the (plus) in the Super AMOLED. Even the nonfunctioning water damaged i9100 displayes weird ass colors and crap on the screen but its finest looking garbage ever.
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hmmm, am i one of the few lucky individuals who do not have this issue? Or am i just blind? Is there something specific i have to do to replicate the issue? Ive tried looking at many different images, color combinations, at different brightness settings, different ambient light settings (from outside in the sun to inside a pitchblack closet) and i have not seen what everyone has been describing? I have a Captivate, Infuse, and euro I9100 (water damaged), that I have tried to compare them to, and my skyrocket looks exactly the same. I believe the Infuse uses the same screen as well and ive not a problem with that, and the cappy still looks prestine minus the (plus) in the Super AMOLED. Even the nonfunctioning water damaged i9100 displayes weird ass colors and crap on the screen but its finest looking garbage ever.
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Mine aren't that noticeable, but can be seen easily when I launch xda app. The brown start screen makes them jump out.
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Now on my Skyrocket I have the vertical lines and my screen is so freaking blue its pissing me off. I also have a Euro I9100 and comparing the Skyrocket to that is night and day difference. I will try exchanging it Saturday and see if the other one will be better. I will take some side by side pics later tonight and post them.
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Yeah I just returned an ATT SGS2 yesterday for the skyrocket and this screen was pissing me off the moment i left the store. The screen on the Orig sgs2 was probably the best mobile display I had ever seen but this shyt is for the birds, I'm thinking of exchanging and if the second one isnt any better then going with the vivid!!!
So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
I wouldn't worry about it. Mine has been rock solid, even after a trip into the pool.
Enjoy your new phone. I'm sure you'll love it.
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So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
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As someone who had a launch fascinate, and upgraded to an s3 in July, let me add my opinion.
Gps. Though still not bulletproof and instantly locking like my wife's iphone 4s, it is way better than the stock fassy and even cm builds
Rom. Stock Rom is way less bloated and tw is way better with a smaller footprint.
Quality. About the same. I miss the 4 capacitive buttons actually. Still find myself hitting the android options key when trying to get to the launcher
I still have my fascinate in case this breaks and needs to be swapped. I do not miss it at all though. I could never find a perfect Rom for it. Something was always broke or buggy. I love my s3. Was going to sell it to get an iphone 5, but I am going to keep it now.
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As someone who had a launch fascinate, and upgraded to an s3 in July, let me add my opinion.
Gps. Though still not bulletproof and instantly locking like my wife's iphone 4s, it is way better than the stock fassy and even cm builds
Rom. Stock Rom is way less bloated and tw is way better with a smaller footprint.
Quality. About the same. I miss the 4 capacitive buttons actually. Still find myself hitting the android options key when trying to get to the launcher
I still have my fascinate in case this breaks and needs to be swapped. I do not miss it at all though. I could never find a perfect Rom for it. Something was always broke or buggy. I love my s3. Was going to sell it to get an iphone 5, but I am going to keep it now.
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Glad to have someone who has experience with the fascinate and gs3. I was concerned with the gps since the gps on the fascinate was pretty wonky. I guess the gs3 isn't much different in build quality with the thin plastic battery cover.
I previously owned a Fascinate as well, it was a great phone but outdated.
I was first worrying about the size being (alittle) too big, after few days it seems to be perfect size.
I do not like the physical home button and the external speakers location. The battery cover is a thin flexible plastic cover, atleast it will not shatter if dropped on hard surfaces.
And the most important of all, it is not an iphone. Unless you have a lemon or defected phone, you will love it.
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I previously owned a Fascinate as well, it was a great phone but outdated.
I was first worrying about the size being (alittle) too big, after few days it seems to be perfect size.
I do not like the physical home button and the external speakers location. The battery cover is a thin flexible plastic cover, atleast it will not shatter if dropped on hard surfaces.
And the most important of all, it is not an iphone. Unless you have a lemon or defected phone, you will love it.
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Yeah, I was worried about the size until I tried out a floor model and to me, felt fine, different from the 4 inches of course but nothing like the galaxy note. I think one major difference is what you mentioned, the physical home button, coming from 4 capacitive buttons to just 3 buttons with one of them a physical one, is pretty different.
A lot of us come from the fascinate. Me too. I find this phone has built nicely on the original fascinate. Adding things that needed along with the general hardware upgrade. Or now thinking on it, Samsung or Qualcomm should have given us a quad core but such as life.
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tonu42 said:
A lot of us come from the fascinate. Me too. I find this phone has built nicely on the original fascinate. Adding things that needed along with the general hardware upgrade. Or now thinking on it, Samsung or Qualcomm should have given us a quad core but such as life.
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Yeah such is life, but having the dual core hold up to that quad core is nice.
On another note, didn't get my galaxy s3 today. So I have unlimited data on my plan and went though hell to try to find a way to keep the unlimited data and get the phone at the discount price. I might of done it, but won't know until verizon sends me my phone in the mail. Will know in a couple days.
It's a great choice ! You will be glad you took the upgrade ! I even enjoy the phone out of the box . This phone is going to be limitless .
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So tomorrow is finally the day I get to upgrade my phone, my fascinate has treated me well these past two years, but its a bit dated now. So I've been following the forums and threads on the S III but I didn't see much people saying anything about specific hardware issues with the phone. When I go tomorrow to purchase my phone, is there any hardware specific stuff to look at to make sure my phone doesn't suffer from quality issues or run tests apps like display tester to test out the phone so I don't come out with a lemon and have to come back to exchange it? Any suggestions on making sure I don't get an lemon is much appreciated.
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Let me be one of the first to say Welcome to the VZW GS3 Family! I may be on GS3 #3, but I think I finally got a keeper. The phone kicks my bionic's a** left and right, and I feel the GS3 is the best phone on the market atm.
As for me being on GS3 #3, I wouldent worry about build quality. First one had the screen gap issue (was back when the GS3 had 1 forum for all carriers), second one had dead pixels, but this current one is a keeper!
I am also new to the verizon fam. Came from sprint and am so happy with this gs3. So much to do that sometimes dont know what to do on the phone. What cool tricks do u suggest. I habeny been on this site in years.
To update everyone, I got my phone today and was able to activate it and keep unlimited! The sweet sweet smell of a new phone with unlimited 4G.
RyanW114 said:
To update everyone, I got my phone today and was able to activate it and keep unlimited! The sweet sweet smell of a new phone with unlimited 4G.
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Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
The phone is fantastic. I've had no issues with it. Welcome to the family!
I love my GS3. It's a great phone and build quality is pretty good. But I did have a few things though most of them are minor. Do check them out within your return window:
1. My 1st GS3 had GPS issue. Took forever to lock and wouldn't stay locked. Got an exchange for that and the 2nd one is way better, still not perfect but totally usable.
2. My 1st GS3 came with a tiny scratch on the screen. I found it after using the phone for < 2hours. At first I thought I scratched it. Then after keeping the phone in the same pocket (completely naked) for 3 weeks, and then having the 2nd one for a month, no scratch whatsoever. Now I'm pretty sure my 1st one came with the scratch. It's a very tiny scratch can only be seen from certain angle. But it annoyed the hell out of me.
3. Both the 1st and 2nd GS3's back cover have a squeaky spot. The 1st one right behind the volume rocker, the 2nd one behind the home button. Not the worst problem but can get annoying.
I saw other people report screen problem (dead pixel) so running a screen test is probably not a bad idea.
Dirty13ear said:
Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
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As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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Dirty13ear said:
Did you specifically request to keep your unlimited? I am just curious because I preordered mine and was able to keep it. I am not sure if they are still allowing anyone who has unlimited to transition to the S3 with unlimited or only people who specifically request it... anyone have more information??
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I didn't, after June 28th you can't request to keep it. See below how I did it.
moun7ain said:
The phone is fantastic. I've had no issues with it. Welcome to the family!
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Thanks!
simollie said:
I love my GS3. It's a great phone and build quality is pretty good. But I did have a few things though most of them are minor. Do check them out within your return window:
1. My 1st GS3 had GPS issue. Took forever to lock and wouldn't stay locked. Got an exchange for that and the 2nd one is way better, still not perfect but totally usable.
2. My 1st GS3 came with a tiny scratch on the screen. I found it after using the phone for < 2hours. At first I thought I scratched it. Then after keeping the phone in the same pocket (completely naked) for 3 weeks, and then having the 2nd one for a month, no scratch whatsoever. Now I'm pretty sure my 1st one came with the scratch. It's a very tiny scratch can only be seen from certain angle. But it annoyed the hell out of me.
3. Both the 1st and 2nd GS3's back cover have a squeaky spot. The 1st one right behind the volume rocker, the 2nd one behind the home button. Not the worst problem but can get annoying.
I saw other people report screen problem (dead pixel) so running a screen test is probably not a bad idea.
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I was checking for everything, can you tell me more about the back cover squeaky spot, been squeezing it, haven't had any squeaky spots, I assume that means I don't have that problem.
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As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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I did a cross upgrade, I was able to transfer my upgrade to a different phone and then have that line upgrade to the s3. When it came, I just esn swap (transferred the phone to my line). Note this only works with ordering from the website. At the store and anywhere else they will force you to switch. Trust me, I banged heads with a lot of people over this.
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As far as I know if you take a discounted price on a phone, you have to take a share everything plan. Op how did you keep your unlimited?
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When I got mine at full price they made me switch before they would activate it but I'm fine with it.
RyanW114 said:
I did a cross upgrade, I was able to transfer my upgrade to a different phone and then have that line upgrade to the s3. When it came, I just esn swap (transferred the phone to my line). Note this only works with ordering from the website. At the store and anywhere else they will force you to switch. Trust me, I banged heads with a lot of people over this.
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Ahhh that makes sense then. I was pretty sure they weren't allowing people to do that anymore no matter what but the way you went about it seems to be a few and far between sort of thing. Nice work on keeping that unlimited data though. props
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Glad to have someone who has experience with the fascinate and gs3. I was concerned with the gps since the gps on the fascinate was pretty wonky. I guess the gs3 isn't much different in build quality with the thin plastic battery cover.
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It feels solid to me. Its a thin cover but its all packed together in that slim body pretty tightly so it doesn't feel cheap (at least not to me). You can't tell its a thin plastic back unless you remove it as it doesn't move or give at all when it is on the phone. I think the fascinate felt worse
The GPS is no problem at all on the S3 but I never had issues with it on my fascinate either although I know a lot of people did.
Hi,
I made this video to demonstrate a rather serious Galaxy Note 10.1 Bug
that i've encountered on two devices, bought from two separate stores.
The first device was a Note 10.1 N8010 with Jelly Bean, the second (the
one on the video) is a Note 10.1 N8010 with Ice Cream Sandwitch.
Transcript:
Hi.
I have in front of me a brand new Galaxy Note 10.1.. its a WIFI-model
N8010. With brand new i mean i bought it a couple of hours ago--here is
the recepit.
I already bought a Galaxy Note 10.1, same type and model.. about 6
Months ago, but its touchscreen suffered from a very weird
touchscreen-bug that was somewhat difficult to reproduce. When I tried
to return the first model, the device went away for almost 3 months and
when I got it back the bug was still there.
Since I was using the device mainly for writing assignments and taking
notes (thats why i bought it in the first place) i gave it back and went
to another store to buy a new one, hoping that the first place will give
me my money back. I needed the device urgently and it was, like i said,
3 months and I had to make a decision.
Well, as it turns out, though, the new device, the one you can see here,
has the same bug.. and I'm going to demonstrate it now.
Right now, as you can see, the device is not in a sane state.. and the
display hasn't turned off since I started speaking. The 2, well, the 4
dots, here, here, here and here.. this one is shaking.. the 4 dots are
supposed to indicate touch activity but are rather ghost-dots caused by
mentioned bug. Here for example is another dot.. I can make several of
them.. I can use a couple of fingers.. and.. this dot is caused by my
hand, the other ones by said bug. I can't do anything right now.. I
can't press on any of these buttons.. I can't call the menu, I can't
switch the homescreen left or right.. I can't drag the.. this thing
here, whatever its name is.. touch input is pretty much impossible.
How do you cause this bug? It's pretty simple.. you roll the palm of
your hand over the display. I can demonstrate this.. I can already
demonstrate this on the lockscreen, doesn't matter.. now, there are 3
dots.. and again.. well, lets try that one again.. now we see 4 dots..
and I can't unlock the lockscreen with my finger. I can though do it
with my pen. Alright.. like i said, you roll the palm of your hand over
the display.. angle and corner don't matter.. current application in
the foreground don't matter either. When this state is active.. it's
going to be almost impossible, I already mentioned that, to use
touch-input.. and with almost I mean there are certain situations where
touch-input will partially work.. but in most cases it won't. Like
you've seen the pen works in this state.. and sometimes, but just
sometimes, it will reset said state. I'm not sure.. I'm still not able
to use touch properly.. yeah, i'm still not able but the pen still
works. Let's reproduce it one more time.
If you want to reset this state your only option is to turn off the
display.. there you go. This bug occurs on ICS and JB.. this device here
has ICS, thats 4.0.4 and my last device, the one that i wanted to give
back.. is running JB 4.1.2, i think. (...) This bug is a show stopper
for everyone who'd like to use this device for lots of writing.. and
it's also a trouble maker since the repair-guys have a hard time
reproducing it, even if you provide them with a comprehensive video.
Now, I hope this video will reach someone who has the necessary access..
because, i don't know, either I'm very, very lucky and get my hands on
two exceptional devices with the exact same bug or this affects the
whole batch or every such model.
I can show perhaps a couple of other apps if the device will let me..
which it won't right now.. Its probably time to use the pen. For
example S-note.. pen works.. touch doesn't.. it's the same story, it
doesn't depend on the application or lockscreen or mainscreen, whatever.
Let me repeat: In this state, when you see these dots, the display will
never dim or go to sleep.. so if you write something and you don't
realize that the device is in such a state.. and you go somewhere for a
couple of hours.. you will come back and you will see that the display
never turned itself off and that you lost lots of battery.
If you want to contact me, i provided my address below (...) thanks for
watching."
Contact me at [ bergwitz at gmx.ch ]
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Any help is appreciated.
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Any help is appreciated.
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I don't know what kind of help anyone's going to be able to provide. It's either a s/w problem which if you've hard reset the device and it's still there indicates a h/w problem. There's been some strangeness on particular regional versions of s/w. For example, different S Note versions have had various problems and different versions are shipped in different regional ROMs. You said two Note's you've had have the same problem though which doesn't make sense if one was ICS and one JB which means they were manufactured at different times so not from the same batch. Are you using a case with magnets in it? Some people have reported strange display issues when the Note's near magnets which causes electromagnetic interference.
The Note's been out since August and sold in the millions and this is the first this type of issue's been reported. So, to your point, maybe there was a batch of bad displays that got out and all ended up in whatever region you live in. Or all versions of your region's s/w has some type of display driver bug. Mine (from August) has no touch issues either via the pen or capacitive touches and I enabled "show touch" in the developer's settings to test it. It's also a pretty obvious issue so if it were common others would have commented or posted also.
The latest 4.1.2 s/w for the N8010 is for the Nordic Countries and was released in March. From your accent I'm guessing you're in the EU. The Nordic ROM is multi-CSC so can be used on any EU N8010. You might want to try installing it via Odin to see if it changes anything.
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/199761991/e927a4b/N8010XXUCMA8_N8010OXXCMB1_NEE.zip.html
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I don't know what kind of help anyone's going to be able to provide.
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You provided help when you tried to reproduce the problem.
BarryH_GEG said:
It's either a s/w problem which if you've hard reset the device and it's still there indicates a h/w problem.
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The first N8010 was reset a couple of times. The second wasn't but I guess that wouldn't make much of a difference.
BarryH_GEG said:
You said two Note's you've had have the same problem though which doesn't make sense if one was ICS and one JB which means they were manufactured at different times so not from the same batch.
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Both had initially ICS. The first N8010 was upgraded to JB during the 3 month repair process.
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Are you using a case with magnets in it?
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No, what you've seen in the video was just taken out of the box. There was nothing close or attached, just a tablet and two laptops on a table. The problem was initially reproducible in two different cities on several separate addresses.
BarryH_GEG said:
The Note's been out since August and sold in the millions and this is the first this type of issue's been reported.
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Yes.. and that was pretty much the only reason why I was so convinced that my device was faulty and went out to get another one in order to get back to work as soon as possible. Now I have to deal with two retail stores.. trying to explain why I want a refund while looking like a shady guy who is trying to pull something.
BarryH_GEG said:
Mine (from August) has no touch issues either via the pen or capacitive touches and I enabled "show touch" in the developer's settings to test it.
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Thanks for testing!
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It's also a pretty obvious issue
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When touches are shown, yes. Otherwise, hell no.. it took me months to figure out what was wrong. I blamed all possible things for the various gitches that were a direct result of this bug.. mostly the apps I was using. When the touch-input freezes started to occur on a daily basis I started to debug.. which isn't that productive when you're not root. In the end I stumbled over the "show touches" option and was lucky that such an option even exists.
BarryH_GEG said:
From your accent I'm guessing you're in the EU.
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Switzerland
BarryH_GEG said:
The Nordic ROM is multi-CSC so can be used on any EU N8010. You might want to try installing it via Odin to see if it changes anything.
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Thanks for the link but right now I would just like to get my money back safely.. :|
Do you maybe know how to get in touch with samsung? Just in case the retail stores decide to give me a hard time..
I briefly experienced this issue while using my Note 10.1 in a place I don't usually use it (my brother's desk instead of my own). I was able to reproduce the issue many times by placing my palm on the screen just as in the video above.
Strangely enough, I haven't been able to reproduce the issue since that first time. I use my Note 10.1 in a number of different places (lecture halls, library, home desk, etc.), but can't seem to make it happen again.
I'm running a rooted, deodexed stock rom (4.1.2) on a NT-8013.
me too
Don't worry, you aren't crazy, I get this too.
I'm convinced its caused by pressure on the display components. My reasons are the following:
If i roll my palm across the screen relatively lightly (but still with enough pressure for the device to respond to normal touches) this never happens.
However as soon as i apply a littly more pressure I can replicate this problem every time. (To those reading thinking that I am putting an unreasonable amount of pressure on the device - I am not! I see people much more violent with their tablets day to day with no issue)
Furthermore, the more pressure I apply the longer the touches will stay after i remove my hand, suggesting that the device is kind of uncompressing.
Finally the area in which this is worst* there are some small LCD 'Mura' - that is light spots on the screen you can only see from some angles, these are normally the result of pressure.
I dont know about you guys but my note is pretty creaky, I would guess that there simply isnt enough rigidity to protect the screen components from stresses caused by pushing down on the device. (Note that i dont get this problem usually unless the device is sitting flat on its back.)
Dont get my wrong, I love my note and these issues are fortunately only an uncommon annoyance for me during typical use. But, this is kind of ****ty build quality and i will have reservations about buying another device from samsung.
*(e.g. if i roll my hand across the screen this is the most common area for a touch to 'stick')
drdoombot said:
Strangely enough, I haven't been able to reproduce the issue since that first time. I use my Note 10.1 in a number of different places (lecture halls, library, home desk, etc.), but can't seem to make it happen again.
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In situations where I wasn't able to reproduce the bug (that happened every once in a while) I used a simple workaround: lock+unlock the screen and the bug was reproducible again.
6pool said:
you aren't crazy
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You're right. After realizing that the second device has the same bug, I was close to declaring myself mental.
6pool said:
I dont know about you guys but my note is pretty creaky
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Mine too. It feels cheap and the only reason I bought it is because of the pen.
6pool said:
these issues are fortunately only an uncommon annoyance for me during typical use.
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What's your typical use? My typical use was writing and said bug made that very inconvenient. It basically prevented me from using touch-input after writing only a couple of lines..
Maybe a short update: I returned the second device, got my money back, and sent the first device once again to $REPAIR_GUYS, this time with a link to the video above.
I'm also thinking about buying a Note 8 if I get refund for the first device.
Bottom line: The tablet was supposed to replace all the cumbersome paper I have to deliver every week and I'm out of a working device since end of january. A huge waste of money, time, time and time.
bergwitza said:
Mine too. It feels cheap and the only reason I bought it is because of the pen.
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Yeah if it wasn't for the pen I bet most people would have gone for something more sturdy/better screen/stock android.
It literally is the only device which can do annotation anywhere near properly though so Its a matter of priorities.
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What's your typical use? My typical use was writing and said bug made that very inconvenient. It basically prevented me from using touch-input after writing only a couple of lines..
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Typical use has been taking lecture notes for several hours a day, managed a years worth of university with it, and while its not perfect
it did save my back from having to lug around lots of books and notes.
I would guess that this issue is present on all devices, just at differing scales. Hopefully you can find one where it is at a level that doesn't
bother you, though I wouldn't blame you for giving up and avoiding Samsung from now on, must be a right pain.
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I'm also thinking about buying a Note 8 if I get refund for the first device.
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I would say that if you are planning on using the note 8 for lots of writing, maybe try it in store first, its probably way too small for any prolonged period, I find the 10.1 cramped and I have relatively small hands/writing. (Not helped by the fact the pen digitizer gets weird towards the edges of the screen)
Anyways, good luck!
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I would say that if you are planning on using the note 8 for lots of writing, maybe try it in store first, its probably way too small for any prolonged period, I find the 10.1 cramped and I have relatively small hands/writing. (Not helped by the fact the pen digitizer gets weird towards the edges of the screen)
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I never really used the whole screen for writing for various reasons:
1. the pen is not precise somewhere around the middle of the screen
2. the pen is not precise at the edges (as you mentioned)
Reason 2 is something all wacom digitizers seem to share (I remember watching a guy on youtube demonstrating the "edge-effect" on the note and two other, professional wacom devices), reason 1 I can't explain.
Anyway, I always ended up just using the upper half of the screen and that's basically the main reason why I think it wouldn't make much of a difference. But on the other hand my gut tells me that you could be right.
Right now I can't shake the feeling that the note is just some random entity in Samsung's massive brute-force output. Never mind the details or the quality, after 5 different pen-tablets the fifth iteration will be just fine. Sounds a lot like Agile SW development.. just with hardware.
Same problem, demonstrated by someone else:
Have two tablets stock and no root. I have none of the described bugs and these 2 tablets are solid and very well built. Solid as any tab that I have owned. That is a strange problem and probable a batch built on Friday about quiting time.
None of those issues could have been reproduced on my Note 10.1 (GT-N8000) from Germany. Mine was bought in October 2012.
Sorry to hear that you have gotten two faulty devices :-/
Grüße aus Deutschland
Sent from my GT-N8000 using XDA Premium HD app
I have went through 3 of these tablets, ended returning each one to best buy. I absolutely love it for drawing and sketching....until the screens bugged up. All three of mine where the gray version, I'm tempted to pick up a white and give it a try.
Btw ...the second video posted in this thread is mine. :cyclops:
Interesting thread, after reading it I decided to test mine and it's not suffering with that bug, I'm in the UK and brought it 2 months ago, it's the grey variant
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aaronbass said:
I have went through 3 of these tablets, ended returning each one to best buy. I absolutely love it for drawing and sketching....until the screens bugged up. All three of mine where the gray version, I'm tempted to pick up a white and give it a try.
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Wait, are you saying that all 3 had the same bug?
ch0ka said:
None of those issues could have been reproduced on my Note 10.1 (GT-N8000) from Germany. Mine was bought in October 2012.
Sorry to hear that you have gotten two faulty devices :-/
Grüße aus Deutschland
Sent from my GT-N8000 using XDA Premium HD app
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Interesting thread, after reading it I decided to test mine and it's not suffering with that bug, I'm in the UK and brought it 2 months ago, it's the grey variant
Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks to both of you for testing.
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Wait, are you saying that all 3 had the same bug?
Thanks to both of you for testing.
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Yep, all three had the same issue.
At first I thought the screen bug was from the tablet getting too hot while sketching (SketchBook). The tablet was pretty warm, not uncomfortable to touch or anything. Possibly overheating?
While streaming Netflix, the touch dots would randomly appear and not go away. The tablet wasn't warm like before when I was sketching and it wasn't even being touched.
Still tempted to try another one, i did love it when it was working and there aren't any other android devices sporting the wacom digitizer
Update:
After almost four months, some Samsung technician/representative reluctantly decided to issue a refund. Reluctantly because, and I quote, out of 100 times he tried to reproduce the bug demonstrated in not one but two videos.. he succeeded only once.
Not really satisfying but, oh well, if they dont give a f.., I won't either.
Any updates
Hi
I bought this Note for my girlfriend as a Christmas gift. She's loaded a few apps and mainly uses it to look up stuff on the web, FaceBook and things like that. The issue is the screen starts twitcihing and types random letters and will switch pges and change settings. I did a factory reset via the reset option in the settings tab. That did not help. I will post a video tonight showing the issue. Are there any other option out there??!!
Thanks
Dash
Touchscreen fixed with better USB cord on Note 10.1 2014
I have the same issue on Note 10.1 2014 SM-P605.
I've tried changing apps, dozens of keyboard settings, device covers, screen protectors, pen input, finger input, touching the corners to recalibrate, turning the divice upside down, locking, unlocking, running different tabs in chrome...way too much time on this issue.
Finally I found the cause.
A cheap monoprice USB cable attached will produce the problem 100% of the time.
Using a heafty stock USB cable works 100% of the time.
I spent three days setting up this new tablet. And it worked flawlessly, until the last day when I moved to a new room.
Now I'm loving it again.
i have problem in touch in several flashing my touch not working anymore anyone can spare me a helping hand to solve this issue sorry for my bad