Hey guys - im contemplating buying a new android phone but im not sure which one to choose. i'm leaning closely to the G2X but before i place my order for it - im interested in knowing if there are any flaws that people experience.. i would like to know before i buy so i can get an idea of what is the worst to expect when i get it (cuz where i am, re-sale will be difficult)
thanks for responses
Vylle said:
Hey guys - im contemplating buying a new android phone but im not sure which one to choose. i'm leaning closely to the G2X but before i place my order for it - im interested in knowing if there are any flaws that people experience.. i would like to know before i buy so i can get an idea of what is the worst to expect when i get it (cuz where i am, re-sale will be difficult)
thanks for responses
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There's about 2 million threads here on bugs people are experiencing.
Just one example: I just looked at my phone and it was totally shut down and wouldn't power up until I pulled the battery. First time that happened.
with every phone their will be a few bugs here and there, but if you can hold out until early june, if you like sense UI's try the htc sensation. i like this phone but i'm definitely getting that.
thanks for the responses guys - i'm looking past just software bugs (i mean, its common for android) and more worried about hardware bugs - EG, a friend of mine had a mytouch 4g with screen problems - after doing some research we discovered that there were two versions of the mytouch4g and one of them (namely the taiwan version) was built with fault-prone screens.
so im interested to know about common hardware faults with the G2X Specifically
@EmceeGeek - i would but the HTC Sensation probably wont come out for the same price range as the G2X.. if there was one phone i would wait for - its the SGSII
Screen bleed seems to be a pretty common hardware issue with this phone - lots of people on this forum have it, and both the T-Mobile and LG reps I spoke with acknowledged it as a known issue. Some people don't mind it as it is only really noticeable on dark backgrounds (e.g. the startup screens from off, camera screen, etc.), but for the $500 price tag, I expect better.
Others have complained about restarts, which also seems to be a hardware issue, though I have not experienced this myself.
Battery life is another huge issue. Some people are able to get very respectable battery duration (9 hours+), while others are barely able to squeeze out 5. There are some software solutions to the battery issues, but they don't seem to work for everyone.
I'm thinking about picking up a g2x as well. I'm looking to sell my white htc evo asap (before evo 3d comes out and the price I can get for it drops) and pick up a g2x. Do you guys know if these flaws are very prominent. If so, would I be able to return the g2x, assuming the sensation comes out in June, and exchange the g2x for the sensation w/in the 30 day return window?
I've had mine since the 19th/20th and the camera/video stopped working after a few days. It still takes good pictures and video but the screen itself goes DARK when you launch the camera app or barcode scanner app etc.
Factory reset didn't fix it....it's not rooted or anything either.
Getting a replacement. Local store said a few customers came in with same problem, no resolution yet.
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Others have complained about restarts, which also seems to be a hardware issue, though I have not experienced this myself.
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What's the basis of this assumption? 2X users in Europe are being told by LG that there will be a patch released to fix their reboot issues. That would indicate software being the culprit, no?
I agree, the only hardware issue is the LCD bleeding, the rest are probably software related and a patch will be issued. I would choose the G2X over the sensation however I would wait a couple of months for the LCD bleeding to be fixed
thanks for the tip - it seems LCD Bleeding is very prominent in some members but i wish i could compile a ratio to see the odds of expecting my device to have it - are there any members who DONT have LCD Bleeding in their G2X's?
anyway if u ask me - this flaw, though a bit provoking, is nothing much to dwell on if it doesnt affect performance in any way
I hardly have any bleeding and I wouldn't have even noticed it if i hadnt read these forums. I havent had restarts or any problems at all as a matter of fac i love this phone my old blackberry feels like a dinosaur
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johnnyp500 said:
I agree, the only hardware issue is the LCD bleeding, the rest are probably software related and a patch will be issued. I would choose the G2X over the sensation however I would wait a couple of months for the LCD bleeding to be fixed
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Yep screen bleed is the only real widespread hardware problem with this phone (seems to be confined to early production numbers). Yhe rest is rushed software. T-mobile reps have started talking about an eminent software patch to fix the reset issue...etc.
Just fYI, I have no screen bleed and have had one reset in two weeks of otherwise continuous use (and I mean continuous). Overall I really happy with the phone.
I have been through 3 shipments and over 20 g2x's. Every single one has had varying degrees of screen bleed, from just a little in the corners to all the way in the center of the screen. Besides just the screen bleed, 70 - 80% of the devices I looked at also had brown staining along the edges of the screen when viewing a white screen such as a browser. A few were completely tinted yellow when looking at any color.
There's a new thread on the LG forum showing the screen separating from the rest of the phone, and the guy has a picture of the light coming through all the outer edges... bit worst than anything i've encountered.
Your call, but the thing is defective right now. If you insist on getting it, I would at least wait another month until possibly LG has addressed the issue. But chances are, they're not going to. This isn't a new device, its been out in Europe as an o2x for a while, and it's had the same issue since day 1.
I dont know about hardware flaws but a frequent problem I run into is that my 4g notification drops to 2g when that happens I actually have no data service I dont know if that data is rebooting itself but it happens quite often, and is really annoying when I am surfing web youtube or any other app that requires data connection. could be a t-mobile problem.
I dunno. I'm running CM7 and aside from screen bleeding I'd say the phone is a keeper.
I get awesome battery life. I can go from 8am-midnight under normal-heavy use and not worry. My screen bleed is minimal and not noticeable. Funny this forum introduced me to iPad2 screen bleeds which I knew nothing about until I looked at mine (damn you guys)
So for the most part you won't see the screen bleed in less you have a bad case of it, in which I would swap it for a new one. CM7 is finding its legs and is getting pretty close to a stable release.
The stock 2.2 kernel can be wonky which can cause battery misreadings (for better or worse) and resets in some cases. I haven't experienced any battery problems as it just runs and runs and runs. I have had resets on the leaked Gingerbread rom running on a Froyo kernel (but your asking for trouble there).
The phone comes with a 2.2 Rom which was left in Engineering mode and eventually gets sluggish and crashes. There is a patch that fixes this. Luckily most of the "major" issues are fixed by simply flashing CM7.
The screen bleed and light leak
I think they are related but still two different issues. I have been through 4 phones and they have all had light leakage. LG told me that there was a bad batch so this is not whining or anything that can be fixed by massaging or opening up the phone, and no matter what anyone says, its not something I will accept in a product I am paying 500 dollars for. Screen bleed has been varied. The one I have now is the worse of the 4, but I took it home to take photos so I could illustrate the problem. All had dates from the 14th to the 24th of April. The photos are just of the light leakage. There are enough of the bleed issue already.
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Looks like this is going to be a larger issue than I thought. Major Manufacturer defect it sounds like. Engadget mentioned it on test unit.
Android 2.2 has a white notification bar so people don't and wont notice it, but boot screen, games, or video's with black it is noticeable and is NOT acceptable. Android 2.3 black notification bar you'd see it every time you look at phone.
I just got my brand new G2x today, and noticed this in the first 10 seconds. I'll be getting it replaced asap. Sadly can't do in store replacement cuz ordered online, different systems. So I have to wait for another to come in the mail.
http://yfrog.com/h4ey8fmj
This is during a video, that is WAY to much, it is also on the bottom of same side, but not as bad. So for those that cant tell, both right and left of the top of the phone has bleeding
MyTouch4G left, and the G2x with bleed on right!
Not good at all.
I have this problem as well, hopefully the replacement unit doesn't have the same issue :/
I have the same problem. Replacement units plus brick and mortar launch I smell backordered
Called store and store purchases can be replaced, but if you bought online then you must go through online for the new one. I might just go buy one in store tomorrow, and return my online purchase. lol.
Instead of waiting for a replacement to come in the mail.. this is BS though, they had plenty of time to check for these sort of things.
Both right and left have it when in portrait. So holding the phone for daily use, you can't see it, but on the top, both sides have pretty bad bleeding, the left (not in picture) is not as bad, but very close. overall this is terrible to see happening on such an amazing device. All the excitement I had coming home to open this, went to **** within 10 seconds when I saw that on boot screen.
uhhh.
Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
Here is another shot using the app called DRAW!, screen goes black and you can draw on it, check out the difference.
MyTouch 4G on left, G2x on right. lol.
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Update, I can't even adjust my screen brightness, the option is greyed out on my phone. Anyone else with that problem?
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That happened on mine when I skipped the setup wizard (hit "Exit") during the first bootup.
This is not good...
Calling T-Mobile about this **** tomorrow..... vibrant problems to sgs4g problems now this!?
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Try exchanging it.
A little part of me died when i saw this issue... I am going in the store early tomorrow... guess i have to take a hoodie to create a dark environment and check for bleeding... did this happen right away like out of the box or after a few reboots and such?
I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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I have a SLIGHT backlight bleed (not really noticeable) on the top left and even less on the bottom left - however, this doesn't affect the usability of the phone and I think you're just picking things to slam the G2x on. NO PHONE IS EVER PERFECT! Get over your nitpicking and move on or go to another phone - pretty much guaranteed that whatever replacement you get is going to have the same issues. End of story. Deal with it and move on (it only really affects blacks anyway) or go to another phone.
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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Or just wait for the SGS2 which might have an unlocked boot loader but will never get source when CM8 w/ 2.4 comes out and it's a whirlwind of hating samsung like w/ my sgs vibrant........i'll stick w/ LG maybe they will release source much faster idk, i think i can deal w/ backlighting bleeding as long as it's minimal and it's not insane yuck....i doubt it will be...will see...
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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What people don't understand is that EVERY LCD WILL HAVE BACKBLEED. Its just part of the process. But compare a Captivate with SAMOLED side by side with the G2x and you'll quickly notice that the colors on the G2x are much more realistic than the Captivate/SGS and on top of that, SAMOLED integrates a pentile matrix display which essentially cuts the actually visible resolution in half in comparison to the IPS-LCD that the G2x utilizes. I can actually see the pixels on my Captivate - I can NOT see them on my G2x because it uses an LCD. I'm quite happy with my G2x so far - hell my roommate was playing NFS for 2 hours and my battery went down 20% - my Cap can't even run the same APK (I rooted and installed it on the Cap - frame rate was abysmal - everyone says the PowerVR 540 is a better chip than the nVidia but the fact of the matter is that nVidia has a lot of hold in the industry due to their desktop presence and that makes a huge dent in the other chips - nVidia chips are easier to program for and as time goes on (Ice Cream for example), only then will the full power of these chips actually come to light.
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My HD7 has absolutely no bleed and it's an LCD...
Screen flickering???
Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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My Nexus always did this as well. I think this is more a problem with Android and adjusting the brightness too frequently based on small changes in light as opposed to looking for averages over a minute or so.
Luckily CyanogenMod 7 has incorporated several manual adjustments to how often this sensor changes your backlight and it makes a huge difference. Prior to that, I always just used manual backlight adjustment because it is pretty annoying.
I'm not nitpicking.. lol I can't believe people see that and think it is acceptable. you will see that everytime you look at the phone with Android 2.3 or any black bar mod..
I've heard from many that had this issue, and MANY that have zero bleed, so I will be replacing it to see if it is any better.
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Ok, as a fellow early adopter, I too have the LCD bleeding problem. However, I'm noticing another problem. I put the screen to "automatic brightness" mode, which causes it to flicker. I understand that different lighting changes the brightness, but not like this. The screen goes light to dark and back again several times in the same light at the same angle. I'm thinking maybe it could be an issue with just my phone. Anyone else?
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I would just use manual brightness anyway. Not a lot of people know this but keeping your screen brightness set to automatic will drain your battery faster than running it at full brightness. It's been tested on multiple Android devices.
Also have the bleed issue, has anyone heard if LG or Tmo have acknowledged the problem?
its a LCD SCREEN! chill out... yes some peoples are worse than others... let me ask all of you who are *****ing about it a question...
HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A "BRAND NEW" LCD TV?
i have a 3 month old 52in toshiba and guess what..... back light bleeding....
i am sorry you didnt read into the phone and understand its technology and bought it under the pretense it would be the PERFECT phone.... but get real!
want a fix to it?
TURN YOUR BRIGHTNESS OFF "AUTO" and put it about 1/4 of the way
still mad?
get a refund....... LG will not send you a new one thats any batter than your current.....
(called tmobile and they have a few complaints but will not issue a new phone till it becomes a larger problem....)
honestly the phone is what i want out of it....(and many people are satisfied)
i give it 4.5/5
just because of the bleeding... if you didnt read into the phone or read people *****ing about it on 2x forum then sorry again for your loss send me the ****ing thing and ill ebay it...
i know this is a section about "general ****" but come on if you are so pissed you have a few option and let me point them out so you stop the spam threads (i know im not helping by making this only feeding the trolls/spammers)
options:
TAKE IT BACK AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK (send it back to tmobile if you bought it online/on phone)
DEAL WITH IT (its a great phone that has alot of developmental support behind i, your loss if you turn away for a older phone)
GET A DIFFERENT PHONE (tmobile offers 14 day returns......... enough said)
SELL IT ON EBAY... (bet you can get profit out of it if you got a spare phone to use)
/RANT
Hey part of your sig says *devices* SGS4G: free from customer loyalty/SENT BACK 14 day return policy! G2X:ORDERED/FREE from customer loyalty!!!!!
"Free from Customer Loyalty" I've been out of contract since Oct help a brother out how did you get a hot new phone for free from TMO
I dont mind the bleed. Its gonna happen with this type of screen. Some posters act like their gonna be using their phone in the dark with a blank screen.
Enjoy this superphone!
You can calm the **** down. Unlike you, myself and many others are not going to say "eh oh well ill deal."
Agreed. This is a non-issue in my book. If XDA had a 'firstworldproblems' subsection, this would be at the top:
"My $500 super flagship smartphone with dual-core 1Ghz CPU, 512MB/8GB, HDMI output, 8MP/1.3MP cameras, and future CM support has slight light bleeding around the edges, and I'm just raging in anger at this piece of junk!!!!"
Edit: I found this just too funny, just posted it on /r/firstworldproblems
I am one if the lucky ones I guess, with no bleed issue. I have seen my friends g2x and it does have small bleeding but only with brightness turned all the way up and on a completely black screen. But it wasn't all that bad and he is keeping his as would I. The device is not perfect and not one made so far has been. Or ever will be perfect. Someone will always find what they think is a flaw.
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seriously..... WOW.. I'm not freaking out or anything. but I paid $500 for a device that has an issue. and I know LCD'd do, I have TV's and computer monitors with this issue and it is minor.
but I've used the Droid, the Nexus One, the G2, the Droid X, the Vibrant, and the Droid X, and the EVO and NONE.. NONE had anything even close to this.
maybe 10% of it at most, but nothing as bad as my picture... I understand a little bit of bleed, and will be ok with that, but mine is enough for a replacement IMO. oh and many are saying they have the phone with NO leakage. so as much as we shouldn't be too unhappy, if some don't have the issue, why should I have to have it!
Honestly I'd rather have a screen that bleeds a little and looks great rather than an amoled screen that RAPES your battery. Just saying
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seriously..... WOW.. I'm not freaking out or anything. but I paid $500 for a device that has an issue. and I know LCD'd do, I have TV's and computer monitors with this issue and it is minor.
but I've used the Droid, the Nexus One, the G2, the Droid X, the Vibrant, and the Droid X, and the EVO and NONE.. NONE had anything even close to this.
maybe 10% of it at most, but nothing as bad as my picture... I understand a little bit of bleed, and will be ok with that, but mine is enough for a replacement IMO. oh and many are saying they have the phone with NO leakage. so as much as we shouldn't be too unhappy, if some don't have the issue, why should I have to have it!
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Maybe yours needs replacement. But in general, all your past phones weren't perfect either, no phone is perfect. The Droid had limited memory, the Nexus One had a wonky touch screen, the G2 had the hanging hinges, the Droid X had motoblur, etc etc. People will always find some flaw to complain about.
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Maybe yours needs replacement. But in general, all your past phones weren't perfect either, no phone is perfect. The Droid had limited memory, the Nexus One had a wonky touch screen, the G2 had the hanging hinges, the Droid X had motoblur, etc etc. People will always find some flaw to complain about.
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I would agree with you if there were N1s without wonky touch screens, G2s with decent hinges (perhaps there were a few), Droid Xs without motoblur, etc. To me, it's the idea that there are G2xs without the bleeding (and ones not as bad), and I also happened to get a G2x with heavier bleeding than I'd like. Judging by the amount of people who don't have problems, and considering that this is a forum that attracts people who are peculiar about their phones, I'm fairly sure that my replacement won't be anywhere near as bad.
These kinds of threads are common whenever a new phone is released. I think the worst one ever was the G2 and hingegate. However, it's still helpful to get an idea of how widespread certain issues are. Do we need 20 threads about the same thing? No, of course not. But to complain about people saying there's something wrong, in their opinion, with their phone is just stupid.
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Hey part of your sig says *devices* SGS4G: free from customer loyalty/SENT BACK 14 day return policy! G2X:ORDERED/FREE from customer loyalty!!!!!
"Free from Customer Loyalty" I've been out of contract since Oct help a brother out how did you get a hot new phone for free from TMO
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Ive had alot of,problems with them...they offered a free,phone of my choice.... Not because my contract was up....
And yeah I know,making this thread doesnt help the spaming problems about the phone but still if they can rant so can i..... Im over it now
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would you rather know there is a "possible" issue, or no.. I'd rather know.
just sayin!
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would you rather know there is a "possible" issue, or no.. I'd rather know.
just sayin!
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This isnt a issue.... Not for many of us
Just because you have a worse bleed doesnt mean its a,know defect in all phones
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I would agree with you if there were N1s without wonky touch screens, G2s with decent hinges (perhaps there were a few), Droid Xs without motoblur, etc. To me, it's the idea that there are G2xs without the bleeding (and ones not as bad), and I also happened to get a G2x with heavier bleeding than I'd like. Judging by the amount of people who don't have problems, and considering that this is a forum that attracts people who are peculiar about their phones, I'm fairly sure that my replacement won't be anywhere near as bad.
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I suspect the amount of bleeding is roughly the same across all G2xs, but some people are just less sensitive to it. In fact, I had never even known what LCD bleeding is (and I've owned 5 Android phones the last two years) until this G2x drama began. I decided to inspect my devices and sure enough my Nook Color has some bleeding at the bottom. I never noticed it before, but I bet many of the disappointed G2x'ers would have. Some of us just aren't sensitive to it. Kinda reminds me of the 'dust under the screen' paranoia with the N1.
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Agreed. This is a non-issue in my book. If XDA had a 'firstworldproblems' subsection, this would be at the top:
"My $500 super flagship smartphone with dual-core 1Ghz CPU, 512MB/8GB, HDMI output, 8MP/1.3MP cameras, and future CM support has slight light bleeding around the edges, and I'm just raging in anger at this piece of junk!!!!"
Edit: I found this just too funny, just posted it on /r/firstworldproblems
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ROFL. It's hard being first... =/
what the hell guys. now you all gave this perfectionist something to look for.
i used adw to hide the staus bar and set my background to solid black. it does show for me in the top right corner moreso than anywhere. on my default home screen, i have the weather clock from beautiful widgets running. i have to really strain to see it. if i slide over to a screen with nothing but black background, it's clearly visible. but only if i put the phone in a dark spot, like under my desk. it's still visible though. but not like it's blinding. even with 2.3 and a black status bar, the icons would hide it,on my phone at least. am i going to return it? no. but if i heard tmo considered this an issue and lg had phones with no bleeding and were willing to replace them? then i might. this phone might get sold in a year if the merger goes through because no way am i going to att. so for me, i can live with it. i did notice it in my camera app before this thread was started. but didn't think it was that big a deal. it's not like it shows while playing videos. and i haven't noticed any problems with pictures taken.
I agree all LCD's have some bleeding, my old G2x had it bad like posted in the other screen thread. I noticed mine immediately after turning it on, on the initial setup screen, on darker background, while playing games, and watching a test movie.
Coming from a N1 with absolutely no bleeding, I chaulked it up as normal for LCD's. After reading some didn't have it, I went to the store and looked at the display model and bought another one.
Comparing the two is night and day. So all I can say is return it if they won't swap it out. The original was purchased online and the second one was tested at a store with a 14 day return policy attached. Getting a refund on the first one.
Yes large lcd monitors and lcd tvs have screen bleed largely due to the tech, but its piss poor for a small 4" lcd display to have screen bleed as well.
You don't see screen bleed on any other lcd phones such as htc desire hd, xperia and the iphone. Do a search on this forum and the only phone that have screen bleed problems is this phone.
This is NOT a common issue on tiny lcd screens.
People saying this is common and should just accept it is just making lame excuses up for lg.
I understand both sides of the story here
Your side: Yes I understand this is super annoying, and it's a KNOWN issue so why didn't someone make 1 Thread about it, and just comment in the thread.
Everyone else side: Okay I would understand the bleeding screen if it were lets say 2008 or so, but it's 2010 and were really having problems with the screen? Seriously? It's not like they didn't know, they merely didn't care I'm guessing.. Another thing that makes me wonder, is why if they are making (they being lg) iPhone retina screens, couldn't they bump up the display a little?
Ps: Idk, not starting anything, just explaining my point of view
I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?
Your picky.
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the mythical perfect screen you hunt doesn't exist
you're clearly being too picky. my screen has a bit of bleed, but i'll be keeping it because i'm never watching a solid black screen, at full brightness, in a dark room. so it doesnt really matter that much to me.
You're not unlucky, and you're not too picky. I just returned my 3rd g2x today because of backlight bleeding. All 3 were so bad that the bleeds were reaching into the center of the screen. Despite what people say about 'You can't see it unless you're in the dark' is not completely true. The last 2 phones had a stripe of brown across the bottom that was blurring out text at the lower half the screen when on a white background. The 3rd was outright yellow.
Upon returning my 3rd, the manager at the store pulled about the remaining 5 they had in stock. She went in the back and checked all 5 in the dark, and all of them had screen bleeding worst than the one I was returing. The manager agreed that it was unacceptable and sent all 5 back. She's calling me when the next shipment comes in, and she's going to personally go through every phone until she finds one that works right.
As for being too picky, that's bull. These guys on the forums will tell you you're being overboard, but the phone is $500 or $199 and a 2 year contract. I know some people have cash to throw around, and the value of the dollar means nothing. But for me, $200 is a lot of money, 2 years of my life is a lot of time, and for me to just accept something that isn't built right because i'm being "too picky" is a load of crap.
If this was a $5000 tv I bet you'd be singing a different tune, but since it's a $500 phone I should just suck it up. Screw that, i'll return 80 of them if I have to. Hopefully someone at corporate will get the hint and call LG about it.
The manager told me that LG already notified all the T-Mobile reps to make them aware of it. So it's not just a matter of pickiness, this a clear cut QA issue on LG's end.
Backlight bleeding is common. It's common because of poor production, and absolutely no QA in Korea. They're shipping these phones out before the glue finishes drying, and thus we're left with crap. I read another post on here that a guy had glue around the edges of the screen. LG needs to get it together, this is out of hand.
The phone is sexy though, and I suggest returning it until you get the one that works right. I've considered giving up and waiting for another, but all the other phones coming up have custom roms and locked bootloaders. I'm uninterested.
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I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?
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I saw a post a few days ago of someone who went to replace their phone in the store. They tested the new one in the store and were satisfied, but then got home and locked themselves in a closet or something and saw some bleed and they were upset.
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.
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If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.
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LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.
I don't understand why anyone would accept what is for certain a quality issue. Do you really just not care that much? I have had many phones over the years and none of them have had these issues. I even pulled all of them back out (yes I have kept them all) and checked them under the exact same conditions as the g2x I sent back yesterday. Do you know how many of them had screen bleed? ZERO none of them. I'm not talking about standard extra defused light coming through an LCD. I'm talking about multiple spots were light was coming through because it simply wasn't sealed correctly.
To the people saying you are being too picky or it doesn't matter or they are all like that either don't know what they are talking about, saying that because they don't like you, or just like to be screwed out of their money.
Have a little pride and demand that it is right. I will sent back every single phone I get until I get one that is correctly built.
i paid 500 for mine but i just don't wanna go there get another one and have it be worse than mine and then make it an issue for me to keep going back till i get a good one since the one i have has been straight aside from the minor backlight issue which i can't see unless im in the dark on that black screen
I have to say that my first phone had it bad. I could tell in every app I tried. I saw it before there were threads like these. I returned it.
I did however buy one from the store and went into the neighboring store's bathroom with the light off, total darkness and the screen looked good.
Obviously these are the first batch and may not be perfect but I'd like to think "most" are under normal conditions. I know I wouldn't stand for it. The screen is something you always will use. It would bother me.
If your store doesn't have a good one, then don't buy it. I guess it is save to say there are batches of bad phones out there. The demo unit at the store near me looked great compared to the SGS4G sitting next to it and there were no bleeding. My unit was clean too.
I'd recommend wearing a hoodie and checking before you leave.
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LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.
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Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
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Yea my neighbor has an iPhone 4 and I can see some. Nothing major and he probably doesn't even notice it. I think every LCD phone I had, had some bleeding... hence why I love my Nexus One Amoled... but it had its problems too.
I'd rather have a small bleed then no multitouch or a locked bootloader
out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.
c19932 said:
out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.
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....or different batches throughout the country/world?
MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
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So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.
i had to go into my dark room and set my screen to 100% to see any bleed...but how often will you keep your screen at full brightness in complete dark? when it's dark i dim my screen, the bleed is nearly impossible to see in typical conditions.
Each of the phones I had i didnt look at them in a completely dark room. But just looking at the screen under normal office light at 50% display and they were all quite noticable. I dont think I'm being too unreasonable but maybe I am.
I think i'll just suck it up and live with it. I honestly wouldnt mind it if the bleeding is in the top two corners where its generally the white status bar but its pretty noticeable in the bottm two. I'll probably just end up waiting until HTC Sensation comes out and sell this.
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So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.
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Nice try again. Apparently you paid no attention to the date of the posts on that thread. The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
Of course, I must also point out that your initial claim was that iphone4s "do not have this problem". They definitely have had this "problem" and sill do.
Just give up or admit you're wrong. Quit clinging to this completely inaccurate claim.
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The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
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Honestly I didn't notice that. I stand corrected!
I'm sorry to ask such a tyro question. What is screen bleed? What does it look like?
I am thinking about purchasing a G2X but am concerned over build quality issues I've read on other forums (screen separation, bleeding). Suspecting that these issues may be related to build date, can anyone tell me the manufacturing date of thier "good" G2X? Thanks in advance.
markward said:
I am thinking about purchasing a G2X but am concerned over build quality issues I've read on other forums (screen separation, bleeding). Suspecting that these issues may be related to build date, can anyone tell me the manufacturing date of thier "good" G2X? Thanks in advance.
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my "good" g2x was bought on the first day of sale.. an original.
I'll let you in on a little secret. I have screen bleed.. but I cannot and would not have noticed it unless someone said something about it. My phone was awesome, not a single issue. Then people started to complain about screen bleed.. and I remember thinking something like.. "Huh.. I don't see anything on mine.. It looks great! Apparently I got a good phone!" Then someone said "Install the app called Draw... have your brightness up all the way, and make sure you're in a dark room." So I did. Guess what happened? I all of a sudden had a build quality issue.
So ya, now when I have my screen brightness up, and when I boot the phone in a dark room.. I see some bleeding in the top corners. It's just as bad as those posting pictures and complaining. But guess what, I don't see it any other time.
As far as I'm concerned, it's 100% a non-issue and it only became an issue for me when people started to point it out and I looked for the problem. I say go buy one.. and check it out. You have a 14 day return window. Test it for yourself. Whatever you do, don't "look" for the lcd bleed... cuz you'll find it. lol
Thanks for the quick reply. This is exactly what I was thinking as I read the other posts. I don't think that bleed will be an issue for me. I am a bit concerned about the screen separation problems I've seen. Either way, I think I'll try it out.
4/14/2011, have no screen bleed or separation problems.
Only issue is a hot battery that leads to a lock up/reboot. However, I just got a new battery today from Tmo, so hopefully that will fix it.
Hi, im going to the USA this week and i want to buy an htc sensation, the thing is im looking for any mayor hardware issues on the phone, i dont care for the low volume or the short battery life (its a smartphone....we rly need to get used to the 8 hour baterry life =P ).....im talking about things that are big like:
* Phone gettin rly hot and making it reboot a lot (happened with my htc desire)
* this rumor about the sensation having some emc issues with the camera
I know theres a lot of threads about the phone issues but what i found out were people complaining on batery life or some apps not working or mostly software issues...... like i said im trying to look for real hardware issues like the death handgrip on the iphone4, i dont want to pay for a 600$ phone that 40% of the first batch production have defective hardware.....i cant go back and get it replaced after i buy it, thats what i get for living in a 3° world country so please dont tell me to move to a civilised country because i cant
My sensation gets really really hot on the bottom of the screen where you type when in the portrait position. I exchanged the phone for another and the second one does the same thing, I can honestly feel the tips of my fingers get hot when I type(really hot). Death grip is very real, same with both phones. Battery life is ok at best. If i could do it again I would wait and get something else. Just my 2 cents. Also phone lockscreen is a bit buggy, sense restarts regularly..........
Also the bottom of the screen goes unresponsive quite regularly, same with both phones. Not sure if that is hardware or software, just so you know
hmmm, seems like the heat issues repeats itself on several forums, and the weird lack of ecm protection of the camera also.
seems like ill be gettin a samsung galaxy s2
thx for the info
ragancy said:
hmmm, seems like the heat issues repeats itself on several forums, and the weird lack of ecm protection of the camera also.
seems like ill be gettin a samsung galaxy s2
thx for the info
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I would, I think this will be my last HTC phone, they always make a device with cool features and tremendous potential but never quite cuts the mustard. I have hung in there since the tilt and I think I am done lol
I often lurk the threads of the new devices and I appreciate the brutal honesty you have all displayed.. I tend to be a bit of a lurker. I am a Nexus One owner and I COULD upgrade... but it just doesn't seem to cut it. That being said, I'd never own a Samsung device, HTC has been perfect for me since the G1. Guess I will hold out and cross my fingers that HTC manufactures the next Nexus device.
Turn down the brightness, this will probably solve the issue with the phone getting very hot. 2 days ago, mine got VERY hot where the touch buttons are located. I was quite confused about this because it had not happened before. Then I realized I had set the screen brightness to 100% because I couldn't read the screen in bright daylight a couple hours earlier and forgot to turn it back down. Reset to my usual 15-25% and everything was fine again.
I havent had any overheating or hardware issues. Havent had any problem yet. Great phone!!!!!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
ok, if the heat issue can be solved by turning down the brightess im in......i mean i dont care if the sense 3.0 got bugs, they will fix that with future updates, what im worried about is this rumor about the camera taking bad pictures because it got emc leakage , seems like it does not have any emc protection for the lens....thx for the replys btw
Here are some issues:
Dust (I don't have it)
Death grip (very real)
Creaking (not such a big issue, but something that shouldn't happen on an expensive phone like this)
Lockscreen (software/hardware. I think it's software)
And some other things
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Nothing to really complain about for me. I haven't had response issues. Although the death grip phenomenon is real, I've managed to avoid it by not covering the plastic on the top half on the device. Hopefully, HTC can come up with a new cover if enough people complain. There was one instance where, during GPS use, the metal back cover was almost too hot to hold. I believe that was due more to direct sunlight on my dashboard than the phone itself. Love the polished feel of the new Sense UI. If I could do it over, I'd prefer a Droid Bionic, but only by a very small amount. And that's only because of the speed of the hardware and Verizon's data speed/reception quality where I am. If you're looking to stay on TMO, I'd definitely recommend it.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App