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Am I unlucky with screen bleed?

I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?

Your picky.
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the mythical perfect screen you hunt doesn't exist
you're clearly being too picky. my screen has a bit of bleed, but i'll be keeping it because i'm never watching a solid black screen, at full brightness, in a dark room. so it doesnt really matter that much to me.

You're not unlucky, and you're not too picky. I just returned my 3rd g2x today because of backlight bleeding. All 3 were so bad that the bleeds were reaching into the center of the screen. Despite what people say about 'You can't see it unless you're in the dark' is not completely true. The last 2 phones had a stripe of brown across the bottom that was blurring out text at the lower half the screen when on a white background. The 3rd was outright yellow.
Upon returning my 3rd, the manager at the store pulled about the remaining 5 they had in stock. She went in the back and checked all 5 in the dark, and all of them had screen bleeding worst than the one I was returing. The manager agreed that it was unacceptable and sent all 5 back. She's calling me when the next shipment comes in, and she's going to personally go through every phone until she finds one that works right.
As for being too picky, that's bull. These guys on the forums will tell you you're being overboard, but the phone is $500 or $199 and a 2 year contract. I know some people have cash to throw around, and the value of the dollar means nothing. But for me, $200 is a lot of money, 2 years of my life is a lot of time, and for me to just accept something that isn't built right because i'm being "too picky" is a load of crap.
If this was a $5000 tv I bet you'd be singing a different tune, but since it's a $500 phone I should just suck it up. Screw that, i'll return 80 of them if I have to. Hopefully someone at corporate will get the hint and call LG about it.
The manager told me that LG already notified all the T-Mobile reps to make them aware of it. So it's not just a matter of pickiness, this a clear cut QA issue on LG's end.
Backlight bleeding is common. It's common because of poor production, and absolutely no QA in Korea. They're shipping these phones out before the glue finishes drying, and thus we're left with crap. I read another post on here that a guy had glue around the edges of the screen. LG needs to get it together, this is out of hand.
The phone is sexy though, and I suggest returning it until you get the one that works right. I've considered giving up and waiting for another, but all the other phones coming up have custom roms and locked bootloaders. I'm uninterested.

konga056 said:
I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?
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I saw a post a few days ago of someone who went to replace their phone in the store. They tested the new one in the store and were satisfied, but then got home and locked themselves in a closet or something and saw some bleed and they were upset.
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.

MWBehr said:
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.
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LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.

I don't understand why anyone would accept what is for certain a quality issue. Do you really just not care that much? I have had many phones over the years and none of them have had these issues. I even pulled all of them back out (yes I have kept them all) and checked them under the exact same conditions as the g2x I sent back yesterday. Do you know how many of them had screen bleed? ZERO none of them. I'm not talking about standard extra defused light coming through an LCD. I'm talking about multiple spots were light was coming through because it simply wasn't sealed correctly.
To the people saying you are being too picky or it doesn't matter or they are all like that either don't know what they are talking about, saying that because they don't like you, or just like to be screwed out of their money.
Have a little pride and demand that it is right. I will sent back every single phone I get until I get one that is correctly built.

i paid 500 for mine but i just don't wanna go there get another one and have it be worse than mine and then make it an issue for me to keep going back till i get a good one since the one i have has been straight aside from the minor backlight issue which i can't see unless im in the dark on that black screen

I have to say that my first phone had it bad. I could tell in every app I tried. I saw it before there were threads like these. I returned it.
I did however buy one from the store and went into the neighboring store's bathroom with the light off, total darkness and the screen looked good.
Obviously these are the first batch and may not be perfect but I'd like to think "most" are under normal conditions. I know I wouldn't stand for it. The screen is something you always will use. It would bother me.
If your store doesn't have a good one, then don't buy it. I guess it is save to say there are batches of bad phones out there. The demo unit at the store near me looked great compared to the SGS4G sitting next to it and there were no bleeding. My unit was clean too.
I'd recommend wearing a hoodie and checking before you leave.

strung said:
LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.
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Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.

MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
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Yea my neighbor has an iPhone 4 and I can see some. Nothing major and he probably doesn't even notice it. I think every LCD phone I had, had some bleeding... hence why I love my Nexus One Amoled... but it had its problems too.
I'd rather have a small bleed then no multitouch or a locked bootloader

out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.

c19932 said:
out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.
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....or different batches throughout the country/world?

MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
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So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.

i had to go into my dark room and set my screen to 100% to see any bleed...but how often will you keep your screen at full brightness in complete dark? when it's dark i dim my screen, the bleed is nearly impossible to see in typical conditions.

Each of the phones I had i didnt look at them in a completely dark room. But just looking at the screen under normal office light at 50% display and they were all quite noticable. I dont think I'm being too unreasonable but maybe I am.
I think i'll just suck it up and live with it. I honestly wouldnt mind it if the bleeding is in the top two corners where its generally the white status bar but its pretty noticeable in the bottm two. I'll probably just end up waiting until HTC Sensation comes out and sell this.

strung said:
So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.
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Nice try again. Apparently you paid no attention to the date of the posts on that thread. The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
Of course, I must also point out that your initial claim was that iphone4s "do not have this problem". They definitely have had this "problem" and sill do.
Just give up or admit you're wrong. Quit clinging to this completely inaccurate claim.

MWBehr said:
The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
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Honestly I didn't notice that. I stand corrected!

I'm sorry to ask such a tyro question. What is screen bleed? What does it look like?

[Q] Has it been long enough?

With all the haters of either TMO or G2X I wanted to start another kind of thread to ask the question of. Has it been long enough to for TMO to refresh their G2X's so I can walk into a store or amazon and get my G2X back. I loved the crap out of that phone and the only issue had was the bleed screen. How can one tell when was the manufacturing date?

I doubt it.
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jsauce75 said:
i doubt it.
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blast it all!!!

Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..

smashpunks said:
Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?

wondercoolguy said:
Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?
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yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..

smashpunks said:
yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..
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Thank you for the info!

smashpunks said:
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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I can assure you that the reboot/lockup issue is real and not due to a specific app. I was getting these before I installed a single thing. In fact, the reboot issue has been confirmed by LG themselves, so I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly.
The screen bleed, on the other hand, I fully agree. My unit has screen bleed, but it's really not a big deal. I never see it during regular usage (and it's worse than many others I've seen on here).

I am having screen bleed in two corners, but honestly it doesn't bother me. nearly a week since I bought this phone, not even one reboot.this phone is rock solid and super fast.
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My 14 days are up tomorrow... and I'm keeping my G2x.
I have light bleed on the top two corners and a little along the right side. It is noticeable but what the heck, nothing is perfect. I think coming from a Nexus One with it's inky blacks spoiled me a little, though I must say I would not put up with this level of bleed (clouding as it's called) on a new TV.
The rest of my experience has been trouble free, no reboots or any other issues. Wifi calling works great, the phone is fast as hell and the feel in hand is rock solid. Give this phone a top tier screen and it's the best phone ever made fer sure.
Oh, and I've never had any problems with T-Mobile service, either in Denver on my WinMo Wing or in the Seattle area on a series of Android devices. I'm actually kind of a T-Mo fanboy.

I've got an RMA coming from Tmo customer service arriving either today or tomorrow for a screen bleeder.
I'm going to open it, pop in battery and sim and check out the bleed.
If it's only slightly or not better at all, I'm keeping my original.
Like others have said, I only see it in the dark with a black screen...not really a big deal in the whole scheme of things.
Other than that, the unit I currently have is working flawlessly...and battery life is superb for me.

LCD Light Leaks

http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-screen-separating-from-body
This is a very serious issue with the LCD panel to these phones, guys please check your G2X at an angle and see if theres anything like that on your phone; if there is, take pictures and contribue to that forum. Things like this shouldn't go unnoticed, this is obviously a defect.
I already made my post, help others out with these phones too. Obviously the Backlight bleeding isn't the only issue here.

I do notice this issue on my phone when viewed at an angle. You can follow the line to see how long it is too.
Damn. This really sucks. Tmo actually sent me a refurbished unit for a replacement? See attached pics. WTF. I called and got transferred to the loyalty department and they apologized and sent me out a new phone that is arriving this Thursday.
However, this definately is a separate issue from the screen bleed and I guess the only good thing is she told me I had 20 days from this Thursday to return it for a full refund.

That is terrible! I have seen this issue personally on my 2nd and 3rd replacements and showed it to store manager. The store manager showed me his G2x which also had it and he said its normal. Well its not normal even if two or more G2x have it.
It almost looks like they used free glue from post office to glue the glass to touchscreen. Its very cheap looking construction for a phone in this class.
Another issue I have seen is you can see white line of LCD lights even when screen is off, it almost looks like white teeth of a comb coming out from the top edge. I haven't seen this on any other phones before so its not normal.

Haven't I seen one of these threads before?
Don't like it? Exchange your phone. Or return it. Or mail it to me. Hey, at least your stress level will go down.

r4d14n7 said:
Haven't I seen one of these threads before?
Don't like it? Exchange your phone. Or return it. Or mail it to me. Hey, at least your stress level will go down.
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This is different from bleeding

VICosPhi said:
This is different from bleeding
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Fair enough.
What I don't like about these posts is you're going to make people look for defects they may never ever notice for the lifetime of the device and exchange it for no freaking reason, raising everyone's costs.
I wonder if T-Mobile would have even considered selling if they weren't spending stupid amounts of money exchanging perfectly good phones.

r4d14n7 said:
Fair enough.
What I don't like about these posts is you're going to make people look for defects they may never ever notice for the lifetime of the device and exchange it for no freaking reason, raising everyone's costs.
I wonder if T-Mobile would have even considered selling if they weren't spending stupid amounts of money exchanging perfectly good phones.
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Agreed ! Most people won't notice it, but LG is responsible here for no QA. Its upto the people to decide whether a tiny white line on screen bugs them enough for an exchange.
I am against the acquisition as well. LG should bear the cost not Tmobile since its LG's fault.

VICosPhi said:
Agreed ! Most people won't notice it, but LG is responsible here for no QA. Its upto the people to decide whether a tiny white line on screen bugs them enough for an exchange.
I am against the acquisition as well. LG should bear the cost not Tmobile since its LG's fault.
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I'm glad we can agree on something! haha... I agree, it really is poor manufacturing/QA.

yes, haha... very few times on these forums a discussion ends this way, usually it ends up in a thread closure...

Hi
I noticed that as well but I really love this phone and I'm sick and tired of always finding new things wrong with it so screw it. When you buy the first batch of a new product thats what u get maybe youll feel better knowong that those who will buy the phone in a few months from now will not be having these issues. This phone is great, has its problems but great. U dont like it send it back and wait for the sensation
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New Topic isn't a suggestion, and the search button exists for a reason.
We -KNOW- there are some phones with issues and Light leakage, many Backlight phones have these problems, EVO 4G springs to mind when thinking about it. Most people just don't care enough about it.

I went to the store to exchange due to this issue but the rep outright refused to do the exchange because he said they were designed that way and he said I was nitpicking and wouldn't honor my 30 day exchange period. He obviously has no knowledge or even the faintest clue on lcd's and I instantly called customer care and reported the incident. I'm now expecting a replacement in the mail next week and will keep calling for replacements until I get a unit without defects. (Already exchanged once at the same store but different rep).
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Oh cry me a river I never view it at that angle and it won't get worse I'm sure..
Just stop now please and get a new phone

smashpunks said:
Oh cry me a river I never view it at that angle and it won't get worse I'm sure..
Just stop now please and get a new phone
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It does get worse on tvs... But im not sure about phones... But I agree lg wont do anything...... Google ipad2...
I hear the net10 phones at walmart dont have this problem....try one of them op
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You guys really know how to jump on the god damn wagon for sure, so if people can't complain about manufacturing defects or let people KNOW about the issue (the LCD LEAKING issue, not the backlight bleeding) how the hell are we suppose to let manufacturers know that they can't charge a crapton of money for something literally built like it was a joke?
Also, no where did I say that you should go complain to T-Mobile, I already sent my email to LG, NOT T-Mobile. Keep trolling kids, I'm pretty sure if you had some defect you hated with your phone and made a thread about it; you wouldn't be hating like you are now.

SyntekSystems said:
You guys really know how to jump on the god damn wagon for sure, so if people can't complain about manufacturing defects or let people KNOW about the issue (the LCD LEAKING issue, not the backlight bleeding) how the hell are we suppose to let manufacturers know that they can't charge a crapton of money for something literally built like it was a joke?
Also, no where did I say that you should go complain to T-Mobile, I already sent my email to LG, NOT T-Mobile. Keep trolling kids, I'm pretty sure if you had some defect you hated with your phone and made a thread about it; you wouldn't be hating like you are now.
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Your issue is legitimate. Thanks for posting.

SyntekSystems said:
You guys really know how to jump on the god damn wagon for sure, so if people can't complain about manufacturing defects or let people KNOW about the issue (the LCD LEAKING issue, not the backlight bleeding) how the hell are we suppose to let manufacturers know that they can't charge a crapton of money for something literally built like it was a joke?
Also, no where did I say that you should go complain to T-Mobile, I already sent my email to LG, NOT T-Mobile. Keep trolling kids, I'm pretty sure if you had some defect you hated with your phone and made a thread about it; you wouldn't be hating like you are now.
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Look. I'm not saying YOU are complaining at T-Mobile but I bet a good number of people who read this post will ignore your message and blindly exchange their phone 6 times in a row. Why not start a petition addressed to LG? Might be pretty effective.

maybe i should get insurance to make an exchange easier. haha

yeeserious said:
maybe i should get insurance to make an exchange easier. haha
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Lol right. Who knew that phones would ever had to be insured....sadly, I fell into the persuade-ness of the tmo salesrep and got the insurance lol
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I noticed this issue on mine as well. Sucks.. I am exchanging it. Especially when I paid full retail price for it.

[Q] Anyone else hugely disappointed with the build quality?

So I was dying to get one of these on launch day and when I finally received mine, it had a squeaky left bezel, bad light bleed on the left and right, and minor light bleed on the other sides. The squeaking and light bleed was so bad that there was no way I was keeping it.
Luckily, I received another one the next day. The bezel on this one was good, no squeaks and the light bleed was very tolerable. It also has a couple of specs of dust under the screen but they haven't really bother me. So I returned my first one and have been using this one for two weeks now and have been loving it.
I then received the 32GB version today. The bezel has no squeaks but there are multiple specs of dust under the screen and there are also a couple of tiny chips in the glass. WTF!!
I really wanted the 32GB version but after my experience with the three tablets I am just sticking with the one I've been using and returning it. I think $400 is the max I want to spend on a product with horrible quality control. I'm even worried that the one I've been using is gonna start developing problems over the next few months! I'm also afraid of exchanging because there is a good chance the replacement will be the same or worse than the original.
It's just very frustrating. I can't remember any other product I've purchased that had so many quality control issues right out of the box. Anyone else feel the same way I do?

If you're a Facebook member, let them know your thoughts.
https://www.facebook.com/ASUSEee/posts/199073926802680

At least your touch screen is working! (link)
Anyway, the best way to have ASUS improve their quality control is probably returning all the bad ones (so that they are financially concerned), as well as calling their customer service number to complain.

Sorry to hear you have had problems but I must say my experience (thus far) has been excellent my unit feels solid, no dead pixels, no dust and minimal light-bleed, just a touch at the bottom and the right side that is only even slightly noticeable on rare occasions.
Only thing I'm not 100% happy about is the battery life, the dock seems to drain like a tap! Maybe it will settle down after a few cycles and I think a firmware fix is in the pipeline for this.

mine is fine. No issues with build quality here. First batch model by the way.

If u wanna see some serious light bleed try a ipad2 under full brightness. Its extremly worse than my transformer

shotto said:
Sorry to hear you have had problems but I must say my experience (thus far) has been excellent my unit feels solid, no dead pixels, no dust and minimal light-bleed, just a touch at the bottom and the right side that is only even slightly noticeable on rare occasions.
Only thing I'm not 100% happy about is the battery life, the dock seems to drain like a tap! Maybe it will settle down after a few cycles and I think a firmware fix is in the pipeline for this.
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Wat he said.except my dock runs awesome.couldn't be more happier.
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Thing is, only people with problems report here. Come on guys, I know for a fact that a lot of u have received perfect units. Report them here, so that others don't feel anxious about buying such an awesome product, because I know for a fact that asus has very strict quality control.
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psycho2097 said:
Thing is, only people with problems report here. Come on guys, I know for a fact that a lot of u have received perfect units. Report them here, so that others don't feel anxious about buying such an awesome product, because I know for a fact that asus has very strict quality control.
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Please do! lol. I have mine coming from walmart in the next few days, but reading all these horror stories makes me really worried.

Other than some minor light bleeding in the bottom middle and feeling a little fragile, mine is fine. The light bleed is less than I am used to from an iPad.

psycho2097 said:
Thing is, only people with problems report here. Come on guys, I know for a fact that a lot of u have received perfect units. Report them here, so that others don't feel anxious about buying such an awesome product, because I know for a fact that asus has very strict quality control.
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hmmm true, i normally just read all the problems here but i dont really feel like posting my experience as i dont want to be seen as rubbing it in. i had mine for almost a week now and i havent encountered any issues, no lockups, no disconnection. had 1 screen of death but i am not bothered by it. light bleed on top left of my screen but again, not bothered by it. i have to say this is the best gadget i have ever bought

xreflection said:
Please do! lol. I have mine coming from walmart in the next few days, but reading all these horror stories makes me really worried.
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please dont be discouraged by all the stories here. touch wood nothing is going to happen to my tf but so far my tf has been really excellent

It's all the luck of the draw. Some peep will have bad luck & get bad ones, while the lucky ones get a perfect model.
QA on anything have gone to ****s over the years. They know they can get away with it. They just produce & ship. If they get a return, the will just ship out another, etc.....

jerrykur said:
Other than some minor light bleeding in the bottom middle and feeling a little fragile, mine is fine. The light bleed is less than I am used to from an iPad.
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Very true. Both r ips. U won't get iphone/galaxy quality led screen here. Ips is really good quality, best among tablets, but its still lcd based, with backlight. U won't get a 10.1" samoled screen for 400 lol. My light bleed is only barely noticeable in pitch dark, with 60% brightness.
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RMXO said:
It's all the luck of the draw. Some peep will have bad luck & get bad ones, while the lucky ones get a perfect model.
QA on anything have gone to ****s over the years. They know they can get away with it. They just produce & ship. If they get a return, the will just ship out another, etc.....
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True, but people should know asus quality control is much better than motorola n samsung etc, only a handful have real probs...i have got 2 captivates with yellowish screens n returned them. Beat that.
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Xreflection, got mine from Walmart last Wednesday when they had that brief selling period (after 6 previous cancellations I received from various places)...arrived 'next day' on Friday. It's great! No screen bleeding,pixels are fine, case is fine - I'm well pleased!
And Yelp I was a little worried, too. But, it's great...so snappy on the wifi where I know having iPad1 had a lot of wifi problems that I returned it- I don't with this-happy customer! Have fun!

I returned my second TF due to a speaker failure issue. I returned my first due to the speaker volume out of sync issue. Im not sure if its a problem with pieces from same batch. Im scouting again online hopefully to get a peice from subsequent batches maybe which wont have the issue. I like the experience on the device though
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Very happy with mine! I have slight light bleed at the bottom left but that's the only issue. Doesn't bother me though as I only see it when it's a black screen which isn't very often.

Mine is fine and I am loving it. The toshiba folio 100 was a pig and deserved all the bad press.
This is a million times better user experience for me and lots of the apple fans are complaining too, if they can't get it right with ips, who can?
If asus keep developing and get a decent quad core with ips to market, then i will defiantly upgrade.
Apple ips light bleed
Another apple light bleed story
I can see why you might be disappointed, Its not perfect, but it is the best one i have used.

I bought two TF's and one dock. The first TF went sleep and never woke up. I sent it to ASUS, they still have it. My second is running great. No issues with it whatsoever. The dock works great also. I'm very happy with the build quality of all three items.

This phone is complete garbage.

I started off with the One and didn't like it because my phones looked like this http://s16.postimg.org/rz4843lud/image.png
Like seriously I went through 3 of them and they were all like that, so I told my network I wasn't happy and I wanted to get a GS4 instead because I knew the build quality would be great.
So I did that and waited for the GS4 to come out and got my phone the other day and oh look another faulty phone. This time with the GS4 I have crazy ghosting issues and a pink tint of the screen, to top that off I have 3/4 dead pixels on the screen. Only now I'm out of exchanges and cannot exchange the phone again, even though I've had 4 faulty phones in a frigging row. Like are phones getting worse or something because this is the first time I've had any trouble. This isn't my picture but this is what my screen looks like at the bottom... http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg
On top of that though the phone has major problems elsewhere.
- I cannot install to Micro SD, like wtf? When did this change? I always could on my last Android phone a couple years ago. There is like 8GB internal on this phone that I can use, it's stupid, I've already filled it up with apps. The One had 29GB usable, so much better and the phone is cheaper too but there is only a 16gb version of the GS4 and it's way more expensive as well. In my mind Micro SD is made useless if I cannot install to it as everything else is on like Play or my pictures are automatically uploaded or video is all streamed now from stuff like Netflix etc etc.
- The loudspeaker is crap, they've made no effort with it, it's worse than my last phone and way worse than the One.
- The camera is crap, the FoV is too narrow, the shutter speed is too slow, no OIS, everything in the video is way too shaky and every picture is over saturated like mad. Like every picture looks like a cartoon and no settings I try is changing that, if you zoom into a picture it looks so stupid. The mics are just ****e, the audio quality is so bad, Samsung have made no attempt to improve them what so ever, good luck recording loud sounds because you cannot...
- Touchwiz is worse than ever, I mean I used to like it when it was based on GB, it was really nice and actually improved Android back then. Now however it's a bloated mess with far too many menus and nothing is where you expect to find it. If I'm trying to turn sensor features on and off for example, you think you've turned one on but it's not working, you have to then go through sub menus to find the one option that is off under that sensor menu. It's laid out so badly, it looks really bad now, so out dated and it lags quite often as a result. The worst thing of all is how much space it takes up....
Apart from the phone feeling so nice in the hand and being well made on the whole, I just cannot see any good qualities. I mean I wish I stuck with the One now, even with the Speaker grills coming off, the phone still manages to be way better. Sadly now I cannot have another exchange and go back and I doubt anyone wants to buy a GS4 with a crap screen. My only option left is just to complain to my Network and refuse to pay them until it is sorted because 4 faulty phones in a row is not acceptable IMO.

Post ur picture first. I dobt know why people come here with other peoples problem making it theirs and bash the devices they cant get.
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dead pixels? I have never seen an amoled screen with dead pixels, can you post a pic?
not saying I don't believe it, but that's just VERY rare
I'm hoping the screen issues are fixed soon by OTA or by the XDA members
install to micro SD... well... where have you been living for the past two years? lol
(there's another way though, check out FolderMount by a fellow XDA member)
loudspeakers, yeah true. not that it matters that much, to me at least. maybe samsung feels the same. they are good enough.
camera, I agree with the FOV. the rest can be improved over time with software, that's what XDA's for.
touchwiz, that's completely subjective. I kinda like it. even though I will be changing it, just because I like to make the phone my own.
advantages over the one?
1.9GHz, AMOLED display, bigger screen, removable (and bigger) battery, micro SD slot, air view (which will be supported by CM from what I've read!!), etc...
you know, there is no perfect phone. it's just up to you to choose which phone's downsides you'd rather live with.
I'm no samsung fan boy, but the S4 is just the phone I want. I can still see why people would chose the One, but I wouldn't.

Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
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Tomo1971 said:
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
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+1, I mean seriously, I can barely notice the gap there. And he ditched One for that? LOL.
And honestly, seems like a troll - intentional or otherwise. Assuming that you are not trolling and is serious, get a replacement because I'm fairly sure that you've got a defective unit. Also post a picture of your screen because we'd all see to see that "miracle" unit.

Tomo1971 said:
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
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LOL

Terrorantula said:
oh look another faulty phone. This time with the GS4 I have crazy ghosting issues and a pink tint of the screen, to top that off I have 3/4 dead pixels on the screen. Only now I'm out of exchanges and cannot exchange the phone again, even though I've had 4 faulty phones in a frigging row. Like are phones getting worse or something because this is the first time I've had any trouble. This isn't my picture but this is what my screen looks like at the bottom... http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg
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Call Samsung and tell them the deal, they will correct it.

We get it, you don't like the phone, plenty do but you don't - so what do you expect the XDA community to do for you? Sell it or return it and buy something else, that's how things work in life, or were you hoping for someone to drop around, pick it up and morph it to something that's more suitable? Yeah really...

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+1, I mean seriously, I can barely notice the gap there. And he ditched One for that? LOL.
And honestly, seems like a troll - intentional or otherwise. Assuming that you are not trolling and is serious, get a replacement because I'm fairly sure that you've got a defective unit. Also post a picture of your screen because we'd all see to see that "miracle" unit.
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If the HTC Ones were deemed as faulty by your provider and the S4 is deemed the same, there is no reason why you cant get many many replacements.
Its only if your right to refund/replacement is 'cos I dont like the phone' does the issue of running out of replacements become an issue.
TBH, Ive said before, and I will say again, I think people can be a little too over critical of devices that have gaps or apparent 'faults'. Its only due to forums like this that things get noticed. I can see a very slight pink tinge on my screen but been honest, I doubt if I would of seen that if I didnt know others had reported it.
My S4, as did the Note II before it, seems to be ok build wise.

I owned S3 since it begin shipped. Now I own s4 and have to say that, loudspeaker is much better than s3. I don't know how one's speaker but I am happy with s4's.

The S4 is actually a very good phone all the gesture features etc are very good, sound qaulity in audio is fantastic and loud too, phone looks and feels great,
however I do agree that 8gb internal sucks the not being able to transfer apps doesnt really bother me much, he FoV in camera does suck and so does video audio, especially when compared to my HTC one.
Overall it is a better phone than the HTC one but itsnt worth nearly £90 - £110 more (carphone and phones 4 u) and I will be getting one when the price drops from £580/600.

Get to see what Samsung do because my Network wants nothing to do with it, tbh don't want to deal with them anymore if this is how I get treated. Those gaps on the HTC One weren't off by a little bit, they were slowly lifting up more and more, you could push them in, clearly not glued properly. Why should I settle for a poorly built device? Lock into a contract for 2 years, just not good enough. All three HTC Ones had dead and bright pixels anyways, like had 5+ each but they were so small you couldn't see them unless you turned brightness to full.
Anyways considering my screen looks like that and has massive ghosting issues, exactly like what other people have posted, it's my right to have it changed. I didn't use my pictures because it wasn't coming out on my camera, that image though shows exactly what it looks like much better than any of my shots. I obviously have a GS4 because I compared the camera to the One and the 808 in another post and you can obviously tell from the FoV.

I think this thread has run its course... closing it before the real trolling starts