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BleeDinG LCD post need to calm the phuck down

its a LCD SCREEN! chill out... yes some peoples are worse than others... let me ask all of you who are *****ing about it a question...
HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A "BRAND NEW" LCD TV?
i have a 3 month old 52in toshiba and guess what..... back light bleeding....
i am sorry you didnt read into the phone and understand its technology and bought it under the pretense it would be the PERFECT phone.... but get real!
want a fix to it?
TURN YOUR BRIGHTNESS OFF "AUTO" and put it about 1/4 of the way
still mad?
get a refund....... LG will not send you a new one thats any batter than your current.....
(called tmobile and they have a few complaints but will not issue a new phone till it becomes a larger problem....)
honestly the phone is what i want out of it....(and many people are satisfied)
i give it 4.5/5
just because of the bleeding... if you didnt read into the phone or read people *****ing about it on 2x forum then sorry again for your loss send me the ****ing thing and ill ebay it...
i know this is a section about "general ****" but come on if you are so pissed you have a few option and let me point them out so you stop the spam threads (i know im not helping by making this only feeding the trolls/spammers)
options:
TAKE IT BACK AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK (send it back to tmobile if you bought it online/on phone)
DEAL WITH IT (its a great phone that has alot of developmental support behind i, your loss if you turn away for a older phone)
GET A DIFFERENT PHONE (tmobile offers 14 day returns......... enough said)
SELL IT ON EBAY... (bet you can get profit out of it if you got a spare phone to use)
/RANT

Hey part of your sig says *devices* SGS4G: free from customer loyalty/SENT BACK 14 day return policy! G2X:ORDERED/FREE from customer loyalty!!!!!
"Free from Customer Loyalty" I've been out of contract since Oct help a brother out how did you get a hot new phone for free from TMO

I dont mind the bleed. Its gonna happen with this type of screen. Some posters act like their gonna be using their phone in the dark with a blank screen.
Enjoy this superphone!

You can calm the **** down. Unlike you, myself and many others are not going to say "eh oh well ill deal."

Agreed. This is a non-issue in my book. If XDA had a 'firstworldproblems' subsection, this would be at the top:
"My $500 super flagship smartphone with dual-core 1Ghz CPU, 512MB/8GB, HDMI output, 8MP/1.3MP cameras, and future CM support has slight light bleeding around the edges, and I'm just raging in anger at this piece of junk!!!!"
Edit: I found this just too funny, just posted it on /r/firstworldproblems

I am one if the lucky ones I guess, with no bleed issue. I have seen my friends g2x and it does have small bleeding but only with brightness turned all the way up and on a completely black screen. But it wasn't all that bad and he is keeping his as would I. The device is not perfect and not one made so far has been. Or ever will be perfect. Someone will always find what they think is a flaw.
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seriously..... WOW.. I'm not freaking out or anything. but I paid $500 for a device that has an issue. and I know LCD'd do, I have TV's and computer monitors with this issue and it is minor.
but I've used the Droid, the Nexus One, the G2, the Droid X, the Vibrant, and the Droid X, and the EVO and NONE.. NONE had anything even close to this.
maybe 10% of it at most, but nothing as bad as my picture... I understand a little bit of bleed, and will be ok with that, but mine is enough for a replacement IMO. oh and many are saying they have the phone with NO leakage. so as much as we shouldn't be too unhappy, if some don't have the issue, why should I have to have it!

Honestly I'd rather have a screen that bleeds a little and looks great rather than an amoled screen that RAPES your battery. Just saying
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xguntherc said:
seriously..... WOW.. I'm not freaking out or anything. but I paid $500 for a device that has an issue. and I know LCD'd do, I have TV's and computer monitors with this issue and it is minor.
but I've used the Droid, the Nexus One, the G2, the Droid X, the Vibrant, and the Droid X, and the EVO and NONE.. NONE had anything even close to this.
maybe 10% of it at most, but nothing as bad as my picture... I understand a little bit of bleed, and will be ok with that, but mine is enough for a replacement IMO. oh and many are saying they have the phone with NO leakage. so as much as we shouldn't be too unhappy, if some don't have the issue, why should I have to have it!
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Maybe yours needs replacement. But in general, all your past phones weren't perfect either, no phone is perfect. The Droid had limited memory, the Nexus One had a wonky touch screen, the G2 had the hanging hinges, the Droid X had motoblur, etc etc. People will always find some flaw to complain about.

mapin0518 said:
Maybe yours needs replacement. But in general, all your past phones weren't perfect either, no phone is perfect. The Droid had limited memory, the Nexus One had a wonky touch screen, the G2 had the hanging hinges, the Droid X had motoblur, etc etc. People will always find some flaw to complain about.
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I would agree with you if there were N1s without wonky touch screens, G2s with decent hinges (perhaps there were a few), Droid Xs without motoblur, etc. To me, it's the idea that there are G2xs without the bleeding (and ones not as bad), and I also happened to get a G2x with heavier bleeding than I'd like. Judging by the amount of people who don't have problems, and considering that this is a forum that attracts people who are peculiar about their phones, I'm fairly sure that my replacement won't be anywhere near as bad.

These kinds of threads are common whenever a new phone is released. I think the worst one ever was the G2 and hingegate. However, it's still helpful to get an idea of how widespread certain issues are. Do we need 20 threads about the same thing? No, of course not. But to complain about people saying there's something wrong, in their opinion, with their phone is just stupid.

wondercoolguy said:
Hey part of your sig says *devices* SGS4G: free from customer loyalty/SENT BACK 14 day return policy! G2X:ORDERED/FREE from customer loyalty!!!!!
"Free from Customer Loyalty" I've been out of contract since Oct help a brother out how did you get a hot new phone for free from TMO
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Ive had alot of,problems with them...they offered a free,phone of my choice.... Not because my contract was up....
And yeah I know,making this thread doesnt help the spaming problems about the phone but still if they can rant so can i..... Im over it now
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would you rather know there is a "possible" issue, or no.. I'd rather know.
just sayin!

xguntherc said:
would you rather know there is a "possible" issue, or no.. I'd rather know.
just sayin!
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This isnt a issue.... Not for many of us
Just because you have a worse bleed doesnt mean its a,know defect in all phones
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TimTim12 said:
I would agree with you if there were N1s without wonky touch screens, G2s with decent hinges (perhaps there were a few), Droid Xs without motoblur, etc. To me, it's the idea that there are G2xs without the bleeding (and ones not as bad), and I also happened to get a G2x with heavier bleeding than I'd like. Judging by the amount of people who don't have problems, and considering that this is a forum that attracts people who are peculiar about their phones, I'm fairly sure that my replacement won't be anywhere near as bad.
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I suspect the amount of bleeding is roughly the same across all G2xs, but some people are just less sensitive to it. In fact, I had never even known what LCD bleeding is (and I've owned 5 Android phones the last two years) until this G2x drama began. I decided to inspect my devices and sure enough my Nook Color has some bleeding at the bottom. I never noticed it before, but I bet many of the disappointed G2x'ers would have. Some of us just aren't sensitive to it. Kinda reminds me of the 'dust under the screen' paranoia with the N1.

mapin0518 said:
Agreed. This is a non-issue in my book. If XDA had a 'firstworldproblems' subsection, this would be at the top:
"My $500 super flagship smartphone with dual-core 1Ghz CPU, 512MB/8GB, HDMI output, 8MP/1.3MP cameras, and future CM support has slight light bleeding around the edges, and I'm just raging in anger at this piece of junk!!!!"
Edit: I found this just too funny, just posted it on /r/firstworldproblems
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ROFL. It's hard being first... =/

what the hell guys. now you all gave this perfectionist something to look for.
i used adw to hide the staus bar and set my background to solid black. it does show for me in the top right corner moreso than anywhere. on my default home screen, i have the weather clock from beautiful widgets running. i have to really strain to see it. if i slide over to a screen with nothing but black background, it's clearly visible. but only if i put the phone in a dark spot, like under my desk. it's still visible though. but not like it's blinding. even with 2.3 and a black status bar, the icons would hide it,on my phone at least. am i going to return it? no. but if i heard tmo considered this an issue and lg had phones with no bleeding and were willing to replace them? then i might. this phone might get sold in a year if the merger goes through because no way am i going to att. so for me, i can live with it. i did notice it in my camera app before this thread was started. but didn't think it was that big a deal. it's not like it shows while playing videos. and i haven't noticed any problems with pictures taken.

I agree all LCD's have some bleeding, my old G2x had it bad like posted in the other screen thread. I noticed mine immediately after turning it on, on the initial setup screen, on darker background, while playing games, and watching a test movie.
Coming from a N1 with absolutely no bleeding, I chaulked it up as normal for LCD's. After reading some didn't have it, I went to the store and looked at the display model and bought another one.
Comparing the two is night and day. So all I can say is return it if they won't swap it out. The original was purchased online and the second one was tested at a store with a 14 day return policy attached. Getting a refund on the first one.

Yes large lcd monitors and lcd tvs have screen bleed largely due to the tech, but its piss poor for a small 4" lcd display to have screen bleed as well.
You don't see screen bleed on any other lcd phones such as htc desire hd, xperia and the iphone. Do a search on this forum and the only phone that have screen bleed problems is this phone.
This is NOT a common issue on tiny lcd screens.
People saying this is common and should just accept it is just making lame excuses up for lg.

I understand both sides of the story here
Your side: Yes I understand this is super annoying, and it's a KNOWN issue so why didn't someone make 1 Thread about it, and just comment in the thread.
Everyone else side: Okay I would understand the bleeding screen if it were lets say 2008 or so, but it's 2010 and were really having problems with the screen? Seriously? It's not like they didn't know, they merely didn't care I'm guessing.. Another thing that makes me wonder, is why if they are making (they being lg) iPhone retina screens, couldn't they bump up the display a little?
Ps: Idk, not starting anything, just explaining my point of view

Am I unlucky with screen bleed?

I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?

Your picky.
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the mythical perfect screen you hunt doesn't exist
you're clearly being too picky. my screen has a bit of bleed, but i'll be keeping it because i'm never watching a solid black screen, at full brightness, in a dark room. so it doesnt really matter that much to me.

You're not unlucky, and you're not too picky. I just returned my 3rd g2x today because of backlight bleeding. All 3 were so bad that the bleeds were reaching into the center of the screen. Despite what people say about 'You can't see it unless you're in the dark' is not completely true. The last 2 phones had a stripe of brown across the bottom that was blurring out text at the lower half the screen when on a white background. The 3rd was outright yellow.
Upon returning my 3rd, the manager at the store pulled about the remaining 5 they had in stock. She went in the back and checked all 5 in the dark, and all of them had screen bleeding worst than the one I was returing. The manager agreed that it was unacceptable and sent all 5 back. She's calling me when the next shipment comes in, and she's going to personally go through every phone until she finds one that works right.
As for being too picky, that's bull. These guys on the forums will tell you you're being overboard, but the phone is $500 or $199 and a 2 year contract. I know some people have cash to throw around, and the value of the dollar means nothing. But for me, $200 is a lot of money, 2 years of my life is a lot of time, and for me to just accept something that isn't built right because i'm being "too picky" is a load of crap.
If this was a $5000 tv I bet you'd be singing a different tune, but since it's a $500 phone I should just suck it up. Screw that, i'll return 80 of them if I have to. Hopefully someone at corporate will get the hint and call LG about it.
The manager told me that LG already notified all the T-Mobile reps to make them aware of it. So it's not just a matter of pickiness, this a clear cut QA issue on LG's end.
Backlight bleeding is common. It's common because of poor production, and absolutely no QA in Korea. They're shipping these phones out before the glue finishes drying, and thus we're left with crap. I read another post on here that a guy had glue around the edges of the screen. LG needs to get it together, this is out of hand.
The phone is sexy though, and I suggest returning it until you get the one that works right. I've considered giving up and waiting for another, but all the other phones coming up have custom roms and locked bootloaders. I'm uninterested.

konga056 said:
I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?
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I saw a post a few days ago of someone who went to replace their phone in the store. They tested the new one in the store and were satisfied, but then got home and locked themselves in a closet or something and saw some bleed and they were upset.
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.

MWBehr said:
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.
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LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.

I don't understand why anyone would accept what is for certain a quality issue. Do you really just not care that much? I have had many phones over the years and none of them have had these issues. I even pulled all of them back out (yes I have kept them all) and checked them under the exact same conditions as the g2x I sent back yesterday. Do you know how many of them had screen bleed? ZERO none of them. I'm not talking about standard extra defused light coming through an LCD. I'm talking about multiple spots were light was coming through because it simply wasn't sealed correctly.
To the people saying you are being too picky or it doesn't matter or they are all like that either don't know what they are talking about, saying that because they don't like you, or just like to be screwed out of their money.
Have a little pride and demand that it is right. I will sent back every single phone I get until I get one that is correctly built.

i paid 500 for mine but i just don't wanna go there get another one and have it be worse than mine and then make it an issue for me to keep going back till i get a good one since the one i have has been straight aside from the minor backlight issue which i can't see unless im in the dark on that black screen

I have to say that my first phone had it bad. I could tell in every app I tried. I saw it before there were threads like these. I returned it.
I did however buy one from the store and went into the neighboring store's bathroom with the light off, total darkness and the screen looked good.
Obviously these are the first batch and may not be perfect but I'd like to think "most" are under normal conditions. I know I wouldn't stand for it. The screen is something you always will use. It would bother me.
If your store doesn't have a good one, then don't buy it. I guess it is save to say there are batches of bad phones out there. The demo unit at the store near me looked great compared to the SGS4G sitting next to it and there were no bleeding. My unit was clean too.
I'd recommend wearing a hoodie and checking before you leave.

strung said:
LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.
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Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.

MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
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Yea my neighbor has an iPhone 4 and I can see some. Nothing major and he probably doesn't even notice it. I think every LCD phone I had, had some bleeding... hence why I love my Nexus One Amoled... but it had its problems too.
I'd rather have a small bleed then no multitouch or a locked bootloader

out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.

c19932 said:
out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.
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....or different batches throughout the country/world?

MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
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So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.

i had to go into my dark room and set my screen to 100% to see any bleed...but how often will you keep your screen at full brightness in complete dark? when it's dark i dim my screen, the bleed is nearly impossible to see in typical conditions.

Each of the phones I had i didnt look at them in a completely dark room. But just looking at the screen under normal office light at 50% display and they were all quite noticable. I dont think I'm being too unreasonable but maybe I am.
I think i'll just suck it up and live with it. I honestly wouldnt mind it if the bleeding is in the top two corners where its generally the white status bar but its pretty noticeable in the bottm two. I'll probably just end up waiting until HTC Sensation comes out and sell this.

strung said:
So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.
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Nice try again. Apparently you paid no attention to the date of the posts on that thread. The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
Of course, I must also point out that your initial claim was that iphone4s "do not have this problem". They definitely have had this "problem" and sill do.
Just give up or admit you're wrong. Quit clinging to this completely inaccurate claim.

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The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
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Honestly I didn't notice that. I stand corrected!

I'm sorry to ask such a tyro question. What is screen bleed? What does it look like?

[Q] Has it been long enough?

With all the haters of either TMO or G2X I wanted to start another kind of thread to ask the question of. Has it been long enough to for TMO to refresh their G2X's so I can walk into a store or amazon and get my G2X back. I loved the crap out of that phone and the only issue had was the bleed screen. How can one tell when was the manufacturing date?

I doubt it.
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jsauce75 said:
i doubt it.
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blast it all!!!

Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..

smashpunks said:
Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?

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Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?
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yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..

smashpunks said:
yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..
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Thank you for the info!

smashpunks said:
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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I can assure you that the reboot/lockup issue is real and not due to a specific app. I was getting these before I installed a single thing. In fact, the reboot issue has been confirmed by LG themselves, so I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly.
The screen bleed, on the other hand, I fully agree. My unit has screen bleed, but it's really not a big deal. I never see it during regular usage (and it's worse than many others I've seen on here).

I am having screen bleed in two corners, but honestly it doesn't bother me. nearly a week since I bought this phone, not even one reboot.this phone is rock solid and super fast.
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My 14 days are up tomorrow... and I'm keeping my G2x.
I have light bleed on the top two corners and a little along the right side. It is noticeable but what the heck, nothing is perfect. I think coming from a Nexus One with it's inky blacks spoiled me a little, though I must say I would not put up with this level of bleed (clouding as it's called) on a new TV.
The rest of my experience has been trouble free, no reboots or any other issues. Wifi calling works great, the phone is fast as hell and the feel in hand is rock solid. Give this phone a top tier screen and it's the best phone ever made fer sure.
Oh, and I've never had any problems with T-Mobile service, either in Denver on my WinMo Wing or in the Seattle area on a series of Android devices. I'm actually kind of a T-Mo fanboy.

I've got an RMA coming from Tmo customer service arriving either today or tomorrow for a screen bleeder.
I'm going to open it, pop in battery and sim and check out the bleed.
If it's only slightly or not better at all, I'm keeping my original.
Like others have said, I only see it in the dark with a black screen...not really a big deal in the whole scheme of things.
Other than that, the unit I currently have is working flawlessly...and battery life is superb for me.

[UPDATED] Quality Control / Reliability Poll

I figured I would get an updated reliability poll going since many people are getting their TF and docks now.
Many of you have reported multiple issues with their device. Please vote for ALL options that apply to your situation.
Thanks and vote away!

There's no poll to vote in that I can see.
Edit: there she is.

fail!!!!!!

It's up guys. It just takes a while to get it created. For some reason, the post comes up before the poll is completed.

Light leak and creakiness here. Not sure if I should RMA or not considering I could receive one with issues that are worse.

Light leakage, dust under the screen, very small gap between display and bezel and creakiness here

The question is whether you will keep in spite of the defects.
Drakknar said:
Light leakage, dust under the screen, very small gap between display and bezel and creakiness here
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I had the following:
Light Bleed: Not even sure it is avoidable with this type of screen.
Screen wasn't flush with the housing on the right center inside.
2 dead pixels.
The screen was off center or skewed. Kind of like an old CRT monitor that you had to mess with to center.
The back has some give but I'm not sure its an issue. Its wide, weight seems evenly distributed and it doesn't seem frail or weak.
I returned mine to the vendor for a replacement due to the off center screen and dead pixels. I only hope that the replacement doesn't suffer from the same issues. I should know by the middle of next week.
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Canadoc said:
The question is whether you will keep in spite of the defects.
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I have the same issues (light leak, creaky corner) but I don't feel they hinder my experience enough that I need to return it.

Canadoc said:
The question is whether you will keep in spite of the defects.
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Unfortunately I'm out of time to get it replaced by the store where I purchased it and ASUS Italy repair facilities still can't accept any RMA for the TF101.
The tablet itself works fine so I'll just wait some time until they'll have solved most of their HW production issues, then I'll submit a RMA ticket.

It is alarming that the vast majority have some king of issue. This is really not common for Asus based on other products they sell. They're actually considered one of the most reliable manufacturers of all.

akarol said:
It is alarming that the vast majority have some king of issue. This is really not common for Asus based on other products they sell. They're actually considered one of the most reliable manufacturers of all.
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Only problem with saying the vast majority have some issue is this may not be true or any real indication seeing as internet community behaviour is such that people post to moan when they've got problems and less likely to scream and shout about a perfect device as they're more than happy playing with it doing other things. Just saying that's all. I will have my TF bundle Friday night when I collect it so will be able to see if it's got any issues I notice but if it's perfect I won't be posting to say how great it is if it's perfect I'll be too busy enjoying it lol

Mine was dead right out of the box. Wouldn't even power on. I returned it and am now waiting for my amazon preorder to come. I am so glad i did'nt cancel that. If that one has problems, i'm gonna wait for the samsung

Question, does the build quality matter where the tf was made. I don't have my tf yet but I seen in a video that the box of one tf said "Made In China."
Were everybody's tf made in China?
Maybe this can determine where the bad eggs are coming from.
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My main issue was the dock, but after receiving a dock firmware upgrade everything works flawlessly. Once HC 3.1 hits, it will be the best tablet ever.

I am going to refrain from voting for a few days, aside from one SOD I've had zero problems with either the tablet or the dock so far, I will wait a few days though before voting.

I understand that there is a huge bias towards those having problems as those that don't are less likely to report. However, such a poll can be helpful in indicating the majority of the problems people are having. It is alarming, still, that there is such a high disparity between those without problems and that do. I was expecting, well, hoping, that it wouldn't be this bad.
doron: They're all made from the same location/plant I'm sure. That's not the issue.

and now my housing separation is getting worse. first it was all tight and no creaks, then creaky and squishy on the left side (the lower left corner, could be squeezed). a day later the right bottom corner is squishy, but not as bad as the left.
last night the left side has increased to up to half the left side being slightly separated.
i'm almost 93.269% sure this thing's going back... if it does i'll have a dock and skin for sale at a pretty good price.
as reliable as their laptops are rated it's actually disappointing to hear all these mfg problems with their tablet. it's not like this is their first tablet.

I'm debating on sending mine in.
What we really need is an official announcement from Asus stating "yes, the first batch had manufacturing issues but the next batch is better. If you are experiencing XXX (IE: Light Leaks) Then please send it back for a full replacement"
I too have light leakage and my backing is lose around the bottom where the dock goes. It bubbles a bit. My dock also doesn't want to stay connected when the trackpad is in use (firmware coming i hear) so...
I know Asus responds to a few of these posts and all but a total PR about the issues would be far better than 100's of reviews stating "X Problem" and then people just overall assume the product is poorly built...which it is currently.
I do love it tho, but next one released with a keyboard at a reasonable price might find me as a buyer and Asus might find this one on the way back for a full refund.

My SD card won't eject. I feel it springing in a bit when I push it in, but it doesn't pop out.
Not a HUGE issue, but a definite QC failure. I may check with BB in a couple weeks to see if they have any stock and exchange it, but if not, it's only a minor issue. I slapped a 16GB card in there and I rarely remove it. I'll mostly use the USB ports and full size SD card slot in the dock.

[Q] Advice on wether to get a refund or replacement

Hey guys,
I am returning my tablet for the 2nd time to amazon as it has severe light bleeding and the sound is seriously messed up because the bezel slipped. I was originally just going to get another transformer, but now I'm thinking, should I wait for the next generation of tablets? Like asus' kal-el tablet? Or should I just get a replacement then sell this when the next generation comes out and buy one of those. I don't really need the tablet for anything and the numerous little problems and bugs really annoy me.
Thanks for your advice!

I'm actually having the same thoughts... :/ this is my second one as well and it is giving me the same light bleed issues. Should I try again for another one? Or just return it...?

I think if moderate light bleed is your only problem, think carefully about returning it. I'm returning mine cause I cant listen to audio with headphones. But the newest batch (B06) has supposedly fixed light bleed problems

Mine is a b06 and has a minor light bleed. Nothing important.
What is your serial numbers first 3 digits.
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It is B40
Silly xda charachter requirement

If you have the ability to get a refund I would suggest you do it. I am seriously disappointing with mine but unfortunately I cannot get a refund, only an exchange.
My honest feeling over the past few years is that the technology is just not there. It isn't ever going to be flawless I understand as I work in software but some of these issues just seem to be poor QC or just cheap parts. The screen issue sucks and I don't think ASUS has done anything to fix it.
My buddies Samsung seems flawless and I wish I could get one of those but in general Android for Tabs still has a way to go. If you don't need one, I would wait for future generations but it will always be an issue pushing functionality that is cool but just not quite there.

I am unable to find a b60 one...this is my second one and both are b40 and have light bleed all over the bottom and left. I wouldn't mind one little light bleed but I have a few little ones that are annoying when I am in the dark... sigh. Will these light bleeds get worse over time if I don't return it for a perfect one or will it stay like this? Whatdobyou guys think?
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My B60 has some bad light bleeds and its my second from amazon. So im in the same refund or replacement boat.

Got 3rd unit(replacement) yesterday from amazon and I can say the light bleeds are very minimal and the internet seems much faster. But I have noticed a bright spot on the screen with lighter colors. Cant asus make unit without problems.