Ok, so i did a lot of research on HTC Sensation battery, and turns out its not an environment friendly battery. Infact if you've noticed, our phones heat up a lot and SUCK the hell outta the battery. HTC has to do something about Sense taking up so much RAM and memory.
Thanks
I agree 100%. Replacement of a diff one would be nice.
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CalCi059 said:
Ok, so i did a lot of research on HTC Sensation battery, and turns out its not an environment friendly battery. Infact if you've noticed, our phones heat up a lot and SUCK the hell outta the battery. HTC has to do something about Sense taking up so much RAM and memory.
Thanks
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RAM and memory are the same in the context you used. And what does RAM usage have to do with the performance of the stock battery? NOTHING. RAM being used does not drain the battery faster. In fact, I want my RAM to be used, not just sitting there doing nothing. As long as whatever is using the RAM releases it when I need it for something else (sense does) I'm happy.
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Ya, I'm not too sure what the extensive research has revealed...the OP doesn't substantiate why stock battery has issues. Or what it has to do with RAM usage. Sure the battery has small mAh...but it doesn't require a lot of research to see that (as it is written on the battery).
I've made this statement before but then about head
Take your laptop off the charger and just leave it there most normal battery's of a laptop shouldn't last longer then 3-4h
The hardware of this phone is similar to a old Packard bell dot-s (the 2007 model)
1.5 ghz dual core with a 4.2 inch qhd screen is consuming a lot of battery usage. Nothing wrong with sense. Its allready build for the best performance and battery usage
If you want better battery life buy an anker 1900 or the 3800 something battery
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Its not only the Sensation that has this 'issue'.
Its common knowledge that any smartphone has poor battery life.
Not really gonna last much longer than a day.
At the end of the day, we are probably near the top limit of what Li-Ion batteries can do; Need a new type of technology to supersede it.
(PS, the most I got out of one charge cycle on my Sensation was 1 day, 11 hours and a few minutes - not too shabby I'd say)
The main problem is that all the latest phones has to be so f...... superslim.
Who cares if the phone is one or two mm thicker if we get an ekstra day of battery life?
I don't wear tights and my pockets can take it
Uae the anker battery it is amazing
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bradmill08 said:
Uae the anker battery it is amazing
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Is it really *that* good? I've heard both!
Delete?
Can we delete this thread?
The title is misleading and there is no new information, only a random allegation that the battery is not 'environment friendly' whatever that means in this context.
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Is it really *that* good? I've heard both!
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It's not THAT good, but it's definitely BETTER than stock.
stroobach said:
I've made this statement before but then about head
Take your laptop of the charger and just leave it there most normal battery's of a laptop shouldn't last longer then 3-4h
The hardware of this phone is similar to a old Packard bell dot-s (the 2007 model)
1.5 ghz dual core with a 4.2 inch qhd screen is consuming a lot of battery usage. Nothing wrong with sense. Its allready build for the best performance and battery usage
If you want better battery life buy an anker 1900 or the 3800 something battery
sent from my Nokia 3310
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PLEASE stop making this comparison. Just because the frequency off the processor is similar does not mean they will act at all similarly in regards to energy consumption. proof: That laptop is getting 3-4h off of a battery many times the capacity of our batteries and many times the volume of the entire sensation. The laptop was designed for 100-150 watts of power, while the average phone is designed for less than 5. Sense is ABSOLUTELY NOT built for the best performance, as many custom roms have proven, and there is absolutely no way that modern, high tech tiny phone-scale dual core processors would be similar to 2007-era computing hardware in any way except for the number of cores and frequency. Also: Frequency does not mean everything. it only measures how many times the processor cycles. The important number is instructions per cycle or instructions per second.
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PLEASE stop making this comparison. Just because the frequency off the processor is similar does not mean they will act at all similarly in regards to energy consumption. proof: That laptop is getting 3-4h off of a battery many times the capacity of our batteries and many times the volume of the entire sensation. The laptop was designed for 100-150 watts of power, while the average phone is designed for less than 5. Sense is ABSOLUTELY NOT built for the best performance, as many custom roms have proven, and there is absolutely no way that modern, high tech tiny phone-scale dual core processors would be similar to 2007-era computing hardware in any way except for the number of cores and frequency. Also: Frequency does not mean everything. it only measures how many times the processor cycles. The important number is instructions per cycle or instructions per second.
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I am a bit concerned about the battery life of the upcoming htc. The first reviews I have read about it on german blogs speak from 12 to 15 hours battery life under medium to heavy usage. Even though, one needs to remain cautious with these numbers as the software is not finalized, I wouldn't expect these to double when final.
The Incredible S has a quite satisfying battery life according to users experience. But the Sensation has a bigger screen, higher resolution, a full load of 3D effects and almost the same battery. I fear the battery life will be insufficient in that case, even though dual core is supposed to consume a little less.
Samsung has built a slightly bigger battery on his GSII and people seem to experience a very good battery life. But Amoled doesn't drain the battery when black is displayed and the whole UI has been designed in black for this purpose. So the Sensation will probably not be able to achieve such an autonomy.
Hopefully it will still go through the day under heavy usage. Otherwise I might gonna settle for incredible s instead.
Has anyone read other numbers somewhere?
eadred said:
I am a bit concerned about the battery life of the upcoming htc. The first reviews I have read about it on german blogs speak from 12 to 15 battery life under medium to heavy usage. Even though, one needs to remain cautious with these numbers as the software is not finalized, I wouldn't expect these to double when final.
The Incredible S has a quite satisfying battery life according to users experience. But the Sensation has a bigger screen, higher resolution, a full load of 3D effects and almost the same battery. I fear the battery life will be insufficient in that case, even though dual core is supposed to consume a little less.
Samsung has built a slightly bigger battery on his GSII and people seem to experience a very good battery life. But Amoled doesn't drain the battery when black is displayed and the whole UI has been designed in black for this purpose. So the Sensation will probably not be able to achieve such an autonomy.
Hopefully it will still go through the day under heavy usage. Otherwise I might gonna settle for incredible s instead.
Has anyone read other numbers somewhere?
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This is how I see it. Multi-core cpu's theoretically are more power efficient. You spread work over both cores, if software is optimized, to allow for less "strain" on the cpu. From what I can tell they are "optimizing" their Sense UI to run on both cores which efficiently manages the amount of power is being used. This now gives you less power draw hence power is saved. The battery isn't as big as some devices, but in my honest opinion I believe you will get a little more than 12-15 but probably won't get up to double that. This is all based off of my own conclusions after reading several articles. I may be wrong and if you need to correct me feel free. =) All I will say is you probably won't have to worry about battery issues.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/22/engadgets-back-to-school-guide-2011-smartphones/
Interesting.
Thinking about it I can't say I disagree, especially at current price points. With the disclaimer that it's primarily a hobbyist device, I don't think it's well suited for anyone who needs their phone to just work.
Yeah, this phone isn't exactly stable. Had an incident today, had to NANDROID restore.
Still. Has good days. Some bad....
Been working very well for me only bad thing is the battery life
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kwiggington said:
Been working very well for me only bad thing is the battery life
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I'm using Weapon ROM with Faux's 1.1 kernel - moderate use (20 mins of google music streaming, couple of air controller games, texts and one phone call) and I was just at 70% after 7.5 hours.
After using this phone for 4 months now, I can clearly say this phone is pretty decent. I've got the screen bleed and all, but all my lcd screens in my house have it to a certain degree. That's not a problem for me. This is my first LG product and I won't knock it too hard. I've owned cellphones for awhile now (first cellphone was in the mid 90's) and speaking strictly from the phone aspect of this device, it is better than most. The earpiece is a little low on the sound (you have to angle it just right to get it loud) but the speaker phone is loud and clear. The mic on here is good, I've never had complaints about my voice being unclear other than from people that are talking from HTC phones. Which brings me to my next point. The phone part of this phone kills HTC and the Iphone (Iphone is close to CB quality!). I think motorola and nokia are the only ones that sound better now.
P.S. My favorite phone of all time was the Motorola Timeport!
kwiggington said:
Been working very well for me only bad thing is the battery life
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Yeah my phone rocks. The battery? Not so much.
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I'm getting pretty good battery life out of my G2X. I played ZDefense today for nearly 4 hours with music over stereo Bluetooth with wifi on and it ate about 45% of my battery. Normally I get about 20 hours of normal use (3 hours of s btooth, data off, wifi, surfing and Kindle). I charge every day but usually don't have to all the time.
It seems like turning data off really saves the battery as does living in a strong network area.
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If you have crappy battery life, install betterbatterystats from this forum and monitor your wakelocks.
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I'm getting pretty good battery life out of my G2X. I played ZDefense today for nearly 4 hours with music over stereo Bluetooth with wifi on and it ate about 45% of my battery.
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Zdefense is great, Hex defense is also, different enough to want to have both. When you say 4 hours gone on Zdefense, I understand.
I am one of those people with a lot of time near chargers, so battery is never an issue. I'm trying to keep this g2x stock. Only issue I've been having is some freezing when I'm on wifi and it's trying to use 2g, or when it really needs a power reset. I reset every day or two to keep it running smoothly enough.
Stock G2x. Zeam launcher.
Why is this phone in the midrange category?
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Why is this phone in the midrange category?
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512Mb RAM, 1GHz vs 1.2GHz, 1Gb RAM on SGSII maybe? I'm not sure I wondered the same thing. Could also be it's age vs newer devices.
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512Mb RAM, 1GHz vs 1.2GHz, 1Gb RAM on SGSII maybe? I'm not sure I wondered the same thing. Could also be it's age vs newer devices.
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The 1GHz vs 1.2GHz should not be any factor, it is faster than the 1.2GHz dual core Snapdragon in the Sensation, for example. The GPU in the G2x is also second only to that of the SGSII. The only thing I can think of is the fact that it has only 512MB of RAM.
I thought the range was based on cost after reading the article.
based on cost..... g2x is free most days of the week
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The 1GHz vs 1.2GHz should not be any factor, it is faster than the 1.2GHz dual core Snapdragon in the Sensation, for example. The GPU in the G2x is also second only to that of the SGSII. The only thing I can think of is the fact that it has only 512MB of RAM.
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Or the fact that the G2X has been troubled, and probability has already reached the end of it's manufacturer support cycle.
The G2x rightly belongs in a bargain bin.
Spyvie said:
Or the fact that the G2X has been troubled, and probability has already reached the end of it's manufacturer support cycle.
The G2x rightly belongs in a bargain bin.
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Cheer up Eeyore, there's no way of knowing that the phone has or has not reached the end of its support cycle. At least we have some great devs working on the device.
Speaking of endo of manufacture support, with the HTC Ruby (which is essentially a Sensation reboot) coming to T-Mobile in October I wonder what will happen with support for the Sensation (another reason I didn't take up T-Mobile's offer to exchange my G2X for the Sensation).
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Cheer up Eeyore, there's no way of knowing that the phone has or has not reached the end of its support cycle. At least we have some great devs working on the device.
Speaking of endo of manufacture support, with the HTC Ruby (which is essentially a Sensation reboot) coming to T-Mobile in October I wonder what will happen with support for the Sensation (another reason I didn't take up T-Mobile's offer to exchange my G2X for the Sensation).
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Ill tell you what will happen to the Sensation. It will become outdated like every other phone ever made.
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should i trade my motorola atrix for a htc sensation? i dont need fanboy stuff i just dont know anymore from the benchmarks etc, 1gig ram 768 mb ram , battery life , blah blah . well i get 4 hours of screen on time on my atrix at most its irritating ~_~ and im always on 3g/4g idk what is what doesnt even diffirentiate. does the htc sensation have 4g/3g/2g toggle? , how much SCREEN ON time does it get? is it worth trading lol... what type of processor is in the sensation ive read its arm8 or something and it doesnt handle as much data per clock cycle as arm 9 like the tegra in the tegra 2 so tegra 2 is better blah blah well i think i need to rearrange this post but let me know though guys lol should i join the sensation camp? or stay at the atrix area XD
Well the Atrix definitely has a better battery life as compared to Sensation as the battery has a bigger capacity. Unless you buy a new battery for Sensation which is going to make it AWESOME. It does have a 3g/2g toggle and i think the performance of Sensation is great after you root it and install a ROM.
battery life O_O
my atrix doesnt have great battery life i pandora alot xD im using stock stuff but i will see how the battery life is after cm7. its nowhere near as decent as my iphone was (which i sold to get an atrix) i see that i have to watch the battery like a hawk , compared to the iphone that would have outlasted my atrix Dx. does the 1 gig : 768 mb ram make any diffrence?. does asynchronous cores really help ? im lost lol. the sensation looks good tho REALLY good. just wondering if i should migrate to the sensation camp xD
I suppose the battery life will be much better using CM7. Atrix has a 1930mAh battery while Sensation only has 1520mAh battery. I'm only getting around ~2hours+ battery life with stock battery. D: I believe both asynchronous and Tegra 2 cores have roughly the same performance though Tegra 2 might have a slight advantage since its build on the new Cortex A9. Well imo , an overclocked HTC Sensation is the beast! Its so smooth despite not having 1GB of RAM.
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I suppose the battery life will be much better using CM7. Atrix has a 1930mAh battery while Sensation only has 1520mAh battery. I'm only getting around ~2hours+ battery life with stock battery. D: I believe both asynchronous and Tegra 2 cores have roughly the same performance though Tegra 2 might have a slight advantage since its build on the new Cortex A9. Well imo , an overclocked HTC Sensation is the beast! Its so smooth despite not having 1GB of RAM.
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wow so its another desire hd situation O_O that sux lol so i guess i wont be trading unless there are any GOOD battery replacements xD that would let the battery last at lesat 4 hours on screen time... im estimating 2 hours 30 mins screen on time with the sensation?
Its about there i suppose. Some are having pretty good battery life with stock battery which lasts throughout the day with moderate use. Some aren't and requires a charge at mid day. Well its been going around that Anker 1900mAh is a great replacement for Sensation. You could check out the post at the Accessories section to see the reviews of the battery.
Yeah, with anker battery and insertcoin Rom I typically get close to five hours screen time per charge cycle.
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my atrix doesnt have great battery life
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That's weird, when I had my atrix, the battery was phenomenal. I could easily get a day and a half out of one charge with decent usage.
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ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
You can't really compare a mobile phone and a laptop lol. A laptop has much more processing and graphic power as compared to a mobile phone.
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You do realise that Packard Bell laptop is rated for anything between 50W and 100W TDP, yes?
Your phone generates a tiny fraction of that. The two are not comparable simply because the clockspeed is similar.
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Your really comparing apples to oranges right now. These phones and the chips were designed with low power consumption in mind as well as heat so it doesn't damage anything in there, also a laptop like a member above said, has a whole lot more components than a phone. We're talking about harddrives, big 13-17in screens, WiFi, a bunch of other misc things as well.
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stroobach said:
ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
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Really lol?
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well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
stroobach said:
well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
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So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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Nothing like a laptop. Poor analogy, can't forget to mention HDD. Mechanical hard drive will use much more energy than flash memory found in phones.
is this guy serious??
Catnap said:
So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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indeed
at least someone who gets it
HTC needs a new battery to get battery life better
this one isnt build for so high end specs
My avatar seems fairly appropriate.
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Just get an Anker 1900mAh battery if you can't deal with stock battery life.
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I have 3 htc phones (HD2- mytouch 4g- sensation 4g)and all of them have similar heat issue. For example, my sensation ( ARHD 6.5.3, stock kernel ) gets warm when i play Angry bird Space for just about 10 mins. If i play a flash video from a website by using 4G( 1-2 bar signals), the phone is extremely hot. Do you think is it normal ? Beside those 3 phones i mention above, I've used lot of phones before ( nokia 5530, dell streak, iphone , samsung vibrant, samsung focus, google nexus s..) and i personally feel only phones made by HTC have over heat issue.
p/s: i use anker battery right now, but the heat come from the sensation itself (bottom part), not from the battery.
Most likely it the amperage or flow of current in the battery. I bought a 1900ma Anker battery and its not heating up noticeably. I think the batteries are under powered for how much the phones use.
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Heat is normal from a processor doing intensive tasks, thats why your desktop has a fan on the CPU. Those other phones you mention should produce similar heating doing the same task, but might not conduct it out to the casing as HTC does.
I'd rather know the phone is hot, than just suffer a CPU fail.
That said I've noticed a huge difference in temperature after moving to ICS non-stock and non-sense ROM, the phone is only doing two or three things at the same time, instead of 30. HTC fail by making sense so bloated and inefficient - adding to the heating issues.