ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
You can't really compare a mobile phone and a laptop lol. A laptop has much more processing and graphic power as compared to a mobile phone.
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You do realise that Packard Bell laptop is rated for anything between 50W and 100W TDP, yes?
Your phone generates a tiny fraction of that. The two are not comparable simply because the clockspeed is similar.
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Your really comparing apples to oranges right now. These phones and the chips were designed with low power consumption in mind as well as heat so it doesn't damage anything in there, also a laptop like a member above said, has a whole lot more components than a phone. We're talking about harddrives, big 13-17in screens, WiFi, a bunch of other misc things as well.
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stroobach said:
ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
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Really lol?
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well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
stroobach said:
well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
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So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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Nothing like a laptop. Poor analogy, can't forget to mention HDD. Mechanical hard drive will use much more energy than flash memory found in phones.
is this guy serious??
Catnap said:
So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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indeed
at least someone who gets it
HTC needs a new battery to get battery life better
this one isnt build for so high end specs
My avatar seems fairly appropriate.
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Just get an Anker 1900mAh battery if you can't deal with stock battery life.
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Ok, so i did a lot of research on HTC Sensation battery, and turns out its not an environment friendly battery. Infact if you've noticed, our phones heat up a lot and SUCK the hell outta the battery. HTC has to do something about Sense taking up so much RAM and memory.
Thanks
I agree 100%. Replacement of a diff one would be nice.
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CalCi059 said:
Ok, so i did a lot of research on HTC Sensation battery, and turns out its not an environment friendly battery. Infact if you've noticed, our phones heat up a lot and SUCK the hell outta the battery. HTC has to do something about Sense taking up so much RAM and memory.
Thanks
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RAM and memory are the same in the context you used. And what does RAM usage have to do with the performance of the stock battery? NOTHING. RAM being used does not drain the battery faster. In fact, I want my RAM to be used, not just sitting there doing nothing. As long as whatever is using the RAM releases it when I need it for something else (sense does) I'm happy.
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Ya, I'm not too sure what the extensive research has revealed...the OP doesn't substantiate why stock battery has issues. Or what it has to do with RAM usage. Sure the battery has small mAh...but it doesn't require a lot of research to see that (as it is written on the battery).
I've made this statement before but then about head
Take your laptop off the charger and just leave it there most normal battery's of a laptop shouldn't last longer then 3-4h
The hardware of this phone is similar to a old Packard bell dot-s (the 2007 model)
1.5 ghz dual core with a 4.2 inch qhd screen is consuming a lot of battery usage. Nothing wrong with sense. Its allready build for the best performance and battery usage
If you want better battery life buy an anker 1900 or the 3800 something battery
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Its not only the Sensation that has this 'issue'.
Its common knowledge that any smartphone has poor battery life.
Not really gonna last much longer than a day.
At the end of the day, we are probably near the top limit of what Li-Ion batteries can do; Need a new type of technology to supersede it.
(PS, the most I got out of one charge cycle on my Sensation was 1 day, 11 hours and a few minutes - not too shabby I'd say)
The main problem is that all the latest phones has to be so f...... superslim.
Who cares if the phone is one or two mm thicker if we get an ekstra day of battery life?
I don't wear tights and my pockets can take it
Uae the anker battery it is amazing
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bradmill08 said:
Uae the anker battery it is amazing
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Is it really *that* good? I've heard both!
Delete?
Can we delete this thread?
The title is misleading and there is no new information, only a random allegation that the battery is not 'environment friendly' whatever that means in this context.
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Is it really *that* good? I've heard both!
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It's not THAT good, but it's definitely BETTER than stock.
stroobach said:
I've made this statement before but then about head
Take your laptop of the charger and just leave it there most normal battery's of a laptop shouldn't last longer then 3-4h
The hardware of this phone is similar to a old Packard bell dot-s (the 2007 model)
1.5 ghz dual core with a 4.2 inch qhd screen is consuming a lot of battery usage. Nothing wrong with sense. Its allready build for the best performance and battery usage
If you want better battery life buy an anker 1900 or the 3800 something battery
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PLEASE stop making this comparison. Just because the frequency off the processor is similar does not mean they will act at all similarly in regards to energy consumption. proof: That laptop is getting 3-4h off of a battery many times the capacity of our batteries and many times the volume of the entire sensation. The laptop was designed for 100-150 watts of power, while the average phone is designed for less than 5. Sense is ABSOLUTELY NOT built for the best performance, as many custom roms have proven, and there is absolutely no way that modern, high tech tiny phone-scale dual core processors would be similar to 2007-era computing hardware in any way except for the number of cores and frequency. Also: Frequency does not mean everything. it only measures how many times the processor cycles. The important number is instructions per cycle or instructions per second.
The_Green_Android_Robot said:
PLEASE stop making this comparison. Just because the frequency off the processor is similar does not mean they will act at all similarly in regards to energy consumption. proof: That laptop is getting 3-4h off of a battery many times the capacity of our batteries and many times the volume of the entire sensation. The laptop was designed for 100-150 watts of power, while the average phone is designed for less than 5. Sense is ABSOLUTELY NOT built for the best performance, as many custom roms have proven, and there is absolutely no way that modern, high tech tiny phone-scale dual core processors would be similar to 2007-era computing hardware in any way except for the number of cores and frequency. Also: Frequency does not mean everything. it only measures how many times the processor cycles. The important number is instructions per cycle or instructions per second.
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So the bottom part of the phone, that said where the USB incable goes connected, gets really hot, you can tell a big difference of temps between the top of the screen and the bottom.... Any ideas? I'm oc to 1.5 on virtuous inquisition, just to get it out of the way, the battery is not getting hot.
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I would say that's normal unless it gets so hot it's difficult to hold..otherwise, the lower half of the device usually gets a little warm during moderate/heavy usage.
Note* Keep in mind if you're flashing different kernels, that that to, can create a lot of heat if you're using the wrong kernels...also overclocking too high can also cause heat issues..
I have the same problem with my phone and I think it's a hardware issue that most HTC phones have.Just go with it.
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Well the bottom part is where the SoC is located.
1.5 isn't really an overclock because our SoC is the same and that is the native clock.
madass mk said:
I have the same problem with my phone and I think it's a hardware issue that most HTC phones have.Just go with it.
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I really hope it doesn't damages the hardware and I will try going to the stock kernel and see what happens with the temps down there.
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Mine is getting hot sometimes - from hands, from lack of ventilation in silicon case, it's OK if it's not 60 degrees Celsium...Sometimes I check battery temperature to get some relative understanding of normal temperature.
I have owned multiple HTCs and this is the first one that gets relatively hot during 10 minutes of screen on time. I feel like its a hardware fault but HTC is keeping quiet about it. Many other super phones, even more powerful ones lack this issue.
Yeah I noticed mine get's a little hot during use but nothing major to the point I can't even hold it. The hottest it seems to get is when I'm charging it and using it at the same time.
Ok, ill just tell you where I'm up to here... I bought the XE, about a week ago after upgrading from my DHD. And ever since I started the phone up, I realised compared to DHD it is mega hot.. now before you point out, I do know XE has dual core .. I play games, browse websites, facebook etc.. and I find the phone getting extremely hot to the point I've been monitoring it all the time..
Browsing websites, I've seen temps of around 57 Celsius
Playing games, I've seen temps at 69 Celsius
Normal idle is usually hovers between 30-45 Celsius
I don't know if these are normal for a phone, but in a cold room my mobile acts as a radiator.. sometimes its that hot I feel I shouldn't be touching it..
I had my first one last week and I got the exact same result.. rooted and stock.. Sebastian kernal and stock.. ICS/GB.. and everytime the result is the same.. so I took the phone back to carphone and they replaced it with a new one..
This is what is confusing me about whether this is normal, because the outcome is exactly the same... I've underclocked, it did nothing.. it is also nothing to do with my battery as it usually sits at a comfortable 25-37 Celcius and only rises due to my CPU heating my entire phone and also my entire home..
Could someone please help me with a little info on whether this is normal.. or whether I'm entitled to a complete different handset as carphone as the overall experience with this overheating is making me a little edgy as to keeping the phone incase it explodes..
Right now my CPU temp is 59 Celcius, and that's just typing this message "/..
It happens on both XE's and I'm using system tuner to record CPU temp
Thanks guys
69 celcius? Mother of Heat (yea... A meme)
My Sensation also gets hot, but not that much. Maybe 43 Celsius the max temp It has reached. The problem its because of HTC's cheap battery mainly. Though you shouldn't expect your phone to be cool when it's having a load of charge (process) to deal with
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you can definitely expect your sensation to get hot every now an then. especially while charging and doing anything mildly intensive. usually while playing games like dungeon defenders my phone gets super hot even through the TPU case. it's nothing out of the ordinary though so don't worry. it won't explode in your pants
This is the HOTTEST phone in the market
How can I check the temperature of my Sensation?
Filoges said:
How can I check the temperature of my Sensation?
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To check your CPU temp just use system tuner from the market.. and for your battery temp, just search for a battery monitoring app I forgot which one I used as when I found it wasn't my battery I uninstalled
My sensation also gets hot all the time on heavy use.
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Filoges said:
How can I check the temperature of my Sensation?
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Open phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
You can remember the "4636" part by seeing that it stands for "info"
This will only show the battery temp tho, but you don't need any 3rd party software
i been gettin same readings on my sensation xe im scared to play games for to long in case it causes a problem with the cpu / gpu... usualy playing games like real racer 2 i get temps up to 70c, i use system tuner to monitor temps..
Look like I had worse temp compare to everyone here.and I wasn't even playing a game.because sensation was too hot to touch.
Here are some pictures and what you said about underclocked is true. It doesn't make any difference and the phone still get very hot.
A new battery may bring your temps down...
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i have the same problem, but not that bad. it maybe goes up to 50-60 degrees.
i tested many different roms and kernels.
i have to confirm: underclocking does nothing it still gets hot. i cant say if its the battery from htc, but i can test that soon. i order an anker from amzon. have heard that one is better in other posts here.
i also noticed one thing today. it gets terrible hot while charging and doing stuff. so i tried to charg it from my pc and it does not get that hot anymore. maybe its the charger itself, but i can not confirm that, because it gets hot when not charging to.
what i also saw is that its not that bad anymore after i got a new rom an new kernel. im on vipers and bricked kernel with default settings. no setcpu or system tuner installed.
maybe that hepls
greetz
dk
Shery4life said:
Look like I had worse temp compare to everyone here.and I wasn't even playing a game.because sensation was too hot to touch.
Here are some pictures and what you said about underclocked is true. It doesn't make any difference and the phone still get very hot.
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Holy crap, you could almost bake a pancake on that!
I have 3 htc phones (HD2- mytouch 4g- sensation 4g)and all of them have similar heat issue. For example, my sensation ( ARHD 6.5.3, stock kernel ) gets warm when i play Angry bird Space for just about 10 mins. If i play a flash video from a website by using 4G( 1-2 bar signals), the phone is extremely hot. Do you think is it normal ? Beside those 3 phones i mention above, I've used lot of phones before ( nokia 5530, dell streak, iphone , samsung vibrant, samsung focus, google nexus s..) and i personally feel only phones made by HTC have over heat issue.
p/s: i use anker battery right now, but the heat come from the sensation itself (bottom part), not from the battery.
Most likely it the amperage or flow of current in the battery. I bought a 1900ma Anker battery and its not heating up noticeably. I think the batteries are under powered for how much the phones use.
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Heat is normal from a processor doing intensive tasks, thats why your desktop has a fan on the CPU. Those other phones you mention should produce similar heating doing the same task, but might not conduct it out to the casing as HTC does.
I'd rather know the phone is hot, than just suffer a CPU fail.
That said I've noticed a huge difference in temperature after moving to ICS non-stock and non-sense ROM, the phone is only doing two or three things at the same time, instead of 30. HTC fail by making sense so bloated and inefficient - adding to the heating issues.
Just web browsing over 3g for 20-30 min will heat the phone up pretty warm to the.touch. it also drains about 1% per 1 min of 3g browsing not even streaming. I'm still on 1.73 att. No apps in background and there is no idle battery drain. Is this normal? I'm guessing not brightness is set way under half
This happened to me only when I'm on like YouTube for a while but mine reaches like 110° F :-(
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mine gets hot as well just by browsing. it is right on the bottom left of where the camera is
If I just check FB or draw something, this phone will start searing my thigh when I put it back in my pocket. This phone is definitely HOT(not in a good way...)
I have had 0 heat issues (can only feel it heat up while charging)
Maybe this is because I had the iPad 3, so nothing seems hot in comparison
mine only heats up when im charging and using it at the same time (playing games usually)
Maybe someone should make a poll because I'm having zero heat issues. Played few games the other day while waiting for my gf's OBGYN doctor to come in and check out our soon to be baby and we was playing for a good half hour. Barely any heat at all. Charging produces hardly any heat if any heat at all (noticeably anyways).
The highest I've seen so far was 41C while using wifi tether. Since I came from Nitro HD, which goes to 63C when voice talk on skype or gtalk, and makes your brain boil, this didn't bother me a bit...
Mine only gets hot when I use google navigation, which is understandable. It gets warm when I play hanging with friends, but in my experience that game spikes the processor the entire time it's open.
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No heat issues at all for me, I tried to put as much load on the phone as I could to test this issue and all is well, it got warm to the touch but no more than any other smartphone I've used in the last ~6 years...
41c is not hot. My Atrix used to rocket up to 60-70. That was too hot. Think about it: 104 is barely warm enough for a hot tub. You can run a fever of 104 and be ok. Yeah, it's high for a person, but come on - dual 1.5ghz with a HD screen? They can't make that stuff make cold instead of heat!! Just saying...
It stays well under 50c. In my mind... *perfect*
dragunbayne said:
Mine only gets hot when I use google navigation, which is understandable. It gets warm when I play hanging with friends, but in my experience that game spikes the processor the entire time it's open.
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+1. Put your phone on your leg and drive with nav on. Heats up like a griddle after a few.
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ECEXCURSION said:
+1. Put your phone on your leg and drive with nav on. Heats up like a griddle after a few.
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Indeed it does! Thanks for the laugh also. I can't see that too many things would warm up the phone more than that. You are using the internet, GPS, and putting a heavy load on the battery at the same time after all.
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dragunbayne said:
Indeed it does! Thanks for the laugh also. I can't see that too many things would warm up the phone more than that. You are using the internet, GPS, and putting a heavy load on the battery at the same time after all.
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I am coming from an LG Thrive and using GPS never got as hot as this phone or got hot as fast either. The only time it did get hot was if the sun shined right on it. I put my screen to never shut off and run google maps so that it would update to latitude. The HOX definitely gets very hot on a cloudy day when my Thrive would be just warm if that
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Just so we're clear, good build quality will often make the exterior of a device hotter. This helps keep the all-important interior cooler. Having my phone feel hot while being measurably at reasonable temperatures is good! You must be careful not to base your opinion of the device's thermal management on subjective senses rather than measured fact.
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Just so we're clear, good build quality will often make the exterior of a device hotter. This helps keep the all-important interior cooler. Having my phone feel hot while being measurably at reasonable temperatures is good! You must be careful not to base your opinion of the device's thermal management on subjective senses rather than measured fact.
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Oh I don't doubt that the phone has better thermal management. I was nearly stating the fact that it gets very hot when placed on your lap and doing nav... Can't really argue that one.
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Oh I don't doubt that the phone has better thermal management. I was nearly stating the fact that it gets very hot when placed on your lap and doing nav... Can't really argue that one.
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And I won't argue the subjective notion of heat on your lap during nav! I know 105-110 feels pretty doggone warm (I had to check the temp to make sure it wasn't overheating), but if the exterior is only a couple degrees different than the interior...? That's good stuff right there.
My phone does seem warm to me now that i think about it but it seems to happen when it wants..
yesterday i noticed it would get pretty warm (not ridiculously hot though) when i would be on it for a few minutes (texting, tweeting, the usual).
but then today it was just fine. it was warm but not like it was yesterday.
not sure if i'm just not used to having a phone with this type of casing, (i had an Inspire previously and it didn't seem to get too hot.) i would figure a phone with a plastic or similar material casing would feel warmer compared to something like with a metal back (correct me if i'm wrong )
I don't think that this phone should get hot. It uses a 28nm process while being just a dual core processor. I think that the voltage might be higher than it should be. We need custom kernels and roms for this baby!!!
raytraceme said:
I don't think that this phone should get hot. It uses a 28nm process while being just a dual core processor. I think that the voltage might be higher than it should be. We need custom kernels and roms for this baby!!!
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Could be the system memory. Could also be WiFi/radio.
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