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[Battery] Recommend widgets/apps/roms/packs/anything what could improve O3D's battery
- I found some apps what helps, similar to task killers, but they seems to be abit 'better' in some way, not sure if task killers are actually good, but I will give it a shot for a day or two to see some improvement.
- What about these performance packs, are they really improving performance, if there is such pack out, is it possible to change it to battery saving pack which will lower your performance in exchange for battery life and how long will it last longer if will made such pack?
- Custom ROMs, can they actually increase battery life without killing performance or maybe boosting performance AND battery life? and is there any good ROM out yet for LG Optimus 3D?
- Is it possible to use LG Optimus 2X rom's for LG Optimus 3D?
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- Battery doctor, it's task killer + battery monitor + log/graph for charging etc etc, will try it out and will see how good will it improve battery.
Recommend widgets/apps/roms/packs/anything what could improve O3D's battery
- Custom ROMs, can they actually increase battery life without killing performance or maybe boosting performance AND battery life? and is there any good ROM out yet for LG Optimus 3D?
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Software can have a great impact on battery life and custom ROMs can help without losing and sometimes even gaining preformance.
There are NO custom ROMs out for O3D, the phone is just a few weeks old, ROMs takes time, O3D will probably take even more time than usually since the 3D is new to the platform and to the once creating alternatives.
However there are things happening on the ROM side but don't ask for a ETA etc since there is no way of telling and people do it on their free time.
Echts said:
Software can have a great impact on battery life and custom ROMs can help without losing and sometimes even gaining preformance.
There are NO custom ROMs out for O3D, the phone is just a few weeks old, ROMs takes time, O3D will probably take even more time than usually since the 3D is new to the platform and to the once creating alternatives.
However there are things happening on the ROM side but don't ask for a ETA etc since there is no way of telling and people do it on their free time.
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Nice to hear that, about performance improvement regarding to losing it.
What about other similar phone ROMs, like Optimus 2X, possible to import that in O3D just to add this 3D space seperate or maybe just make Sense 3.0 with 3D space. I'v heard Optimus 2X is same as Optimus 3D, it's just some features are in 3D, but rest seems to be same as in 2X?
Can someone please post some example of real world use versus battery life, so the people can get a feel how much the battery lasts on average.
Thinking of getting myself a O3D but i am concerned about battery life.
Juice defender,exellent!!save 50% of battery
nic85 said:
Juice defender,exellent!!save 50% of battery
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What settings are you useing to get a 50% saving.
nic85 said:
Juice defender,exellent!!save 50% of battery
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tried that last week, made no difference
ray777 said:
Can someone please post some example of real world use versus battery life, so the people can get a feel how much the battery lasts on average.
Thinking of getting myself a O3D but i am concerned about battery life.
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You won't get 24 hours out of the battery I charge mine in the morning so its full at 9 ish and by maybe 9pm it can be around 30% or less but that is best case scenario.
I think if you don't have a car or a way of charging this phone a spare battery is needed to guarantee a full day.
Would be interesting to find out if the 1900mah battery's I seen on ebay make any difference.
I'm trying juice defender right now...
daGUCCI said:
Nice to hear that, about performance improvement regarding to losing it.
What about other similar phone ROMs, like Optimus 2X, possible to import that in O3D just to add this 3D space seperate or maybe just make Sense 3.0 with 3D space. I'v heard Optimus 2X is same as Optimus 3D, it's just some features are in 3D, but rest seems to be same as in 2X?
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No the 2X or any other phone doesn't have the same hardware, the chipset in O3D is completely new (to the smart-phone scene), some things might work but something that saves battery on the 2X might actually do the opposite to the O3D, but have no fear, in general all Android phones get better at battery handling and performance as new ROMs are released both Official and Custom, also Android itself is getting better and since this is a dual-core phone 2.4 that is said to optimize for dual-core will feel a big gain hopefully
Juice Defender and other battery logs and optimizers made it worse for me. I leave gps and wifi deactivated until i need it,screen brightness on auto. I keep mine loading over night. I leave home at 7am and am back at 6pm with 40-60% left on my battery.moderate use,some calls music email surfing. Im really happy so far!
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Just need to be patient. Afterall it is a very new phone.
I am getting the 1800 battery myself. it'll give more juice to the phone. Also if no task killer is used, you will experience a much faster drain in battery. There are tons of apps opened by default. So a task killer with careful plan will gain quite a lot in power saving.
havn't seen alot improvement from battery doctor, but atm waiting on new battery to arrive, will see how long will it take on new battery and is it gona be better then stock one.
also now using juicedefender with aggresive profile, will se how will it boost my battery life
I'm using current venomxl Rom with elemental kernel (all default other than max 1.5ghz and flu overclock off) and getting what I feel are amazing results on battery life. On phones of the past, aosp style roms pulled better battery life, but I saw here in the forums people were getting better battery life with sense roms? Is that true? I posted a screenshot below of my battery life, sorry couldn't figure out how to get jpg link from dropbox app.
https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/0/AA...g/d7MN66kx-qjvYssSKvKrYLP2xrN6GZy7R6-COot-8wM
Would be nice to hear what Rom/kernel combos others are using and what kind of battery life you are getting.
Put the picture in your public folder. Right click on the picture and click copy public link, or something to that effect then paste the link in your thread.
In any case, the only things you could do to get even better battery would be to undervolt your processor and maybe underclock as well. Some phones become unstable however and while I noticed the general ui and most apps run fine with a clock speed of about 1.2ghz, some, more CPU intensive apps do lag a bit. You can also disable radios when not in use. I actually use juice defender to do this for me automatically, which is pretty handy though not everyone likes the idea of having an app do that for you.
Last but not least, if your radio signal seems low most of the time, you can try flashing different radios to give you a better signal which will, in turn, increase your battery life.
Hope this helps, maybe others have had different experiences?
I use viper and bulletproof right now ad I wanted a stock kernel with swipetowake
And this holds up damn well in terms of battery life. Never used elemental for long though so not sure if it's better or worse.
*edit* I forgot to add, you can also turn off fastboot. Your phone will take longer to power on but saves some battery life.
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badhabits727 said:
On phones of the past, aosp style roms pulled better battery life, but I saw here in the forums people were getting better battery life with sense roms? Is that true?
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Such reports are often just anecdotal and very subjective. Like you, I've also seen people claim better life on AOSP or certain ROMs on various devices, but never really experienced it in any consistent or meaningful way. Battery life often has more to do with the radio and reception in your specific care, than anything. Sure, various ROMs on various devices may have some subtle difference in battery life. But unless you are very methodical and scientific about comparing them, there are just too many variables involved, and you are often just left with subjective reports and placebo effects.
Can't open your pic. But if you are satisfied with the battery life (enough to call it "amazing"), I'd just go with the ROM that has the features you like the best, and leave well enough alone.
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
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For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
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Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
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Revontheus said:
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
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To add to what they said though, certain Kernels with certain Roms can HELP with battery life but it all boils down to how the user uses it. I can tell you that with my same usage on KitKat and Cyanogenmod 11 (CM11), I get better battery life out of CM11. I recorded about a 4 hour longer battery life on CM11 as opposed to default KitKat that comes on the device.
You should look into CM11, it's a cleaner, more effecient, more customizable version of KitKat.
Hope this helps!
Great job to Viking on explaining battery life/Roms
@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
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@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
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Underclocked, for the Nexus 5 , I never saw this, have you a link?
All Nexus 5 are clocked at max 2,26 Ghz, nothing less... It seems that there is different variants of the S800 (clocked at 2,4/2,5 Ghz) but the S800 in the Nexus 5 it's 2,26 Ghz (MSM8974AA).
Maybe you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_800?
I have no issues with battery life ... I consistently get 14-20 hours of use with 3-5 hours of screen time or 2-3 hours of screen with 1-2 hours of voice.
Auto brightness, GPS on, nothing special.
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Oh thank goodness, I saw some reviews saying it comes pre-throttled to save battery
Thanks
battery life is terrible but after some modification, it better a lot.
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I get 24 hours and 5 to 6 screen time. Tweaked heavily with battery life in mind.
Its nearly as good as my Moto x.
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I have two U11 (I'm going to return one, or both) and I noticed significant differences in terms of battery life between them.
Running PCMark battery life test, auto-brightness OFF, brightness MAX, one phone consistently gets 4h53 of screen on time, and the other one 5h08 (from 100% to 20% battery). That's a 5% difference and it's not negligible. Phones are the same otherwise in terms of apps installed. Problem is, the phone that has the worst battery life starts apps a TINY bit faster...
So the bottom line is, phones have significant manufacturing differences.... and I don't know which one to return.
They have same firmware and all identical? are you sure? maybe some app is configurated different or something.. or one battery its more degraded
5% is close negligible. I've got two U11 and they don't perform any differently. You aren't going to get identical numbers on two different handsets running benchmarks.
Hardware parts may be more or less efficient than each other. Radios on one device may be a few percent better. Honestly just send one back and get it done with. You also forget about coy CPU variances (no two chips are the same).
Different bin could be the reason there is a slight difference.
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They have same firmware and all identical? are you sure? maybe some app is configurated different or something.. or one battery its more degraded
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Hardware/ firmware / software is identical.
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5% is close negligible. I've got two U11 and they don't perform any differently. You aren't going to get identical numbers on two different handsets running benchmarks.
Hardware parts may be more or less efficient than each other. Radios on one device may be a few percent better. Honestly just send one back and get it done with. You also forget about coy CPU variances (no two chips are the same).
Different bin could be the reason there is a slight difference.
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Well the geekbench and 3D mark are exactly the same (like give or take 0.1%).
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Well the geekbench and 3D mark are exactly the same (like give or take 0.1%).
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Doesn't mean a battery benchmark is going to be within 0.1% the same as when you look at Youtubers who benchmark multiple of the same device and get somewhat different Antutu benchmark results.
5% is nothing to fuss over
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Doesn't mean a battery benchmark is going to be within 0.1% the same as when you look at Youtubers who benchmark multiple of the same device and get somewhat different Antutu benchmark results.
5% is nothing to fuss over
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It's like starting with a battery at 100% vs starting at a battery at 95%. For the rest of the life of the phone. Kind of a big deal.
Anyways, I'm running another test now with a low screen brightness, in case one screen was brighter than the other one (at max brightness) and drained more battery, I'll keep y'all posted.
Try with all radios (wi-fi, gsm, bluetooth, nfc, gps) off, even in location settings (disable scanning nearby devices for improved accuracy), and force stop all installed apps before the test. That gives me about 10 to 15 % increase on AnTuTu score. Maybe log cpu load and speed while testing as well.
I agree 5% is not a big deal, but would definitely keep the longer standing
Edit: force stopping because you may have installed the same apps, but most background processes won't load until you first time run their app, so one of the two "identical" devices may actually be running less apps in background. Best for testing would be to factory reset both devices and not load anything into them nor change any settings except the backlight for test.
How do you use both phones in the same manner to expect same result? You text same person with both phones making sure time taken to perform the task is same for both? And different phones have different usage pattern hence the 5% difference..??
Besides....that's 15mins. I definitely consider that as negligible. A 20% difference would be something to concern yourself about.
I've been using a V20 for several months now and I'm really enjoying the many features and flagship-grade hardware it offers. However, it has a lot of problems in terms of design. The V20 runs REALLY hot, and all that heat comes with an enormous power consumption (most figures for stock SOT, including my own, are around four hours.)
I've had a few ideas of my own for correcting LG's mistakes, and I'm wondering what all of your experiences are.
Underclocking the processor: The 820 is a fast, yet power-hungry and hot, processor. Underclocking it would trade off performance in favor of cooler phone and more battery life. Has anyone tried modifying the stock CPU governor or in any way messing with the clocks? I've experimented with LKT but didn't really notice any significant improvement.
Undervolting the processor: I'm not sure about how feasible this is on Android devices. Undervolting the processor would increase battery life and cool the phone at the expense of stability. Anyone find that the CPU is running at an necessarily high voltage?
Reducing Screen Resolution/Framerate: The V20 uses a 1440p display. With its screen size, most of the time this isn't necessary. Are there any tools to automatically reduce resolution when not playing back fullscreen 1440p content? Has anyone tried one, and what are the effects?
Aftermarket batteries: I've been using a 10500mAh extended battery. While it brings SOT up to usable levels, it's very heavy (and has over the course of a month or two decayed to only around 7Ah.) What's the general opinion on these?
Thermal pasting: Repasting or using at thermal pad has been a very common procedure for this device. For those who have done this, what kind of objective analysis of its effects can you providef?
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I've been using a V20 for several months now and I'm really enjoying the many features and flagship-grade hardware it offers. However, it has a lot of problems in terms of design. The V20 runs REALLY hot, and all that heat comes with an enormous power consumption (most figures for stock SOT, including my own, are around four hours.)
I've had a few ideas of my own for correcting LG's mistakes, and I'm wondering what all of your experiences are.
Underclocking the processor: The 820 is a fast, yet power-hungry and hot, processor. Underclocking it would trade off performance in favor of cooler phone and more battery life. Has anyone tried modifying the stock CPU governor or in any way messing with the clocks? I've experimented with LKT but didn't really notice any significant improvement.
Undervolting the processor: I'm not sure about how feasible this is on Android devices. Undervolting the processor would increase battery life and cool the phone at the expense of stability. Anyone find that the CPU is running at an necessarily high voltage?
Reducing Screen Resolution/Framerate: The V20 uses a 1440p display. With its screen size, most of the time this isn't necessary. Are there any tools to automatically reduce resolution when not playing back fullscreen 1440p content? Has anyone tried one, and what are the effects?
Aftermarket batteries: I've been using a 10500mAh extended battery. While it brings SOT up to usable levels, it's very heavy (and has over the course of a month or two decayed to only around 7Ah.) What's the general opinion on these?
Thermal pasting: Repasting or using at thermal pad has been a very common procedure for this device. For those who have done this, what kind of objective analysis of its effects can you providef?
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You did not mention what variant, most of the issues you mentioned can be rectified by flashing a custom rom and kernel
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There is also the almighty...AKT (Advanced Kernel Tweaks Mod you can flash. Use the 820 selection.
Also thermal mods as well
Mysticblaze347 said:
There is also the almighty...AKT (Advanced Kernel Tweaks Mod you can flash. Use the 820 selection.
Also thermal mods as well
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Although LKT and AKT do have some advantages, they didn't give me much more Screen On Time - so I removed them. Have you gotten a significant more amount of SOT? If so, what settings?
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Although LKT and AKT do have some advantages, they didn't give me much more Screen On Time - so I removed them. Have you gotten a significant more amount of SOT? If so, what settings?
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I can get around 10hrs sot (depending) using Xana extreme battery. That's the one I'm currently on.
Have a 4200 mAh battery (reg size)
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It is hard to tell. Alot of placebo mods out there. I also put zram at zero and knocked my entropy to 2048 for write. I'm still learning and tweaking tho.
Going along with this, which is better: AKT or NFS-Injector?
I would propose that most custom ROMs are probably placebo when it comes to battery life. Very few mention changing anything related to CPU governor, resolution, etc. all of which are the main factors in power consumption (running in Doze 5% more of the time isn't going to affect SOT, for example, which is the only metric that really matters.)
It doesn't help that LG's display technology leaves much to be desired.
Guys, order a Perfine 4100mah battery in Ali....ess and be happy. Better than that 10000mah ugly fat battery cases. SoT about 7 hours. And if that's not enough for one whole day you are facing other problems lol..
Okay, most admit. Only wifi the whole day cause it's been a rainy day.
Jogg3r said:
Guys, order a Perfine 4100mah battery in Ali....ess and be happy. Better than that 10000mah ugly fat battery cases. SoT about 7 hours. And if that's not enough for one whole day you are facing other problems lol..
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Can you please share link of Battery in Ali Express
hemal_4404 said:
Can you please share link of Battery in Ali Express
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https://m.de.aliexpress.com/item/32...d=8252amp-7eN9wah34-yQOJzgwQJScw1558254753245
Advanced Interactive Governor guide for LG V20?
I have seen the "Advanced Interactive Governor" tweaks elsewhere on here for other phones, but it looks like some of it may be able to be used on the LG V20.
(Links to a few of them will be at the bottom for reference.)
I have calculated the frequencies for both CPU's on the T-Mobile variant, the H918, for both maximal efficient load, and minimal efficient load, according to the math in those articles. If anyone would like to try this on an LG V20 with me and help me work out specifics for this phone, it would probably speed up the process quite a bit, and I could share what I have so far.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3518881
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3718123
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3269557
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769899
Jogg3r said:
Guys, order a Perfine 4100mah battery in Ali....ess and be happy. Better than that 10000mah ugly fat battery cases. SoT about 7 hours. And if that's not enough for one whole day you are facing other problems lol..
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In that case: I am facing other problems.
For some reason this is currently getting me only about 2 hours SOT on a used V20 I just bought. Battery capacity seems good according to accubattery.