http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/22/engadgets-back-to-school-guide-2011-smartphones/
Interesting.
Thinking about it I can't say I disagree, especially at current price points. With the disclaimer that it's primarily a hobbyist device, I don't think it's well suited for anyone who needs their phone to just work.
Yeah, this phone isn't exactly stable. Had an incident today, had to NANDROID restore.
Still. Has good days. Some bad....
Been working very well for me only bad thing is the battery life
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kwiggington said:
Been working very well for me only bad thing is the battery life
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I'm using Weapon ROM with Faux's 1.1 kernel - moderate use (20 mins of google music streaming, couple of air controller games, texts and one phone call) and I was just at 70% after 7.5 hours.
After using this phone for 4 months now, I can clearly say this phone is pretty decent. I've got the screen bleed and all, but all my lcd screens in my house have it to a certain degree. That's not a problem for me. This is my first LG product and I won't knock it too hard. I've owned cellphones for awhile now (first cellphone was in the mid 90's) and speaking strictly from the phone aspect of this device, it is better than most. The earpiece is a little low on the sound (you have to angle it just right to get it loud) but the speaker phone is loud and clear. The mic on here is good, I've never had complaints about my voice being unclear other than from people that are talking from HTC phones. Which brings me to my next point. The phone part of this phone kills HTC and the Iphone (Iphone is close to CB quality!). I think motorola and nokia are the only ones that sound better now.
P.S. My favorite phone of all time was the Motorola Timeport!
kwiggington said:
Been working very well for me only bad thing is the battery life
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Yeah my phone rocks. The battery? Not so much.
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I'm getting pretty good battery life out of my G2X. I played ZDefense today for nearly 4 hours with music over stereo Bluetooth with wifi on and it ate about 45% of my battery. Normally I get about 20 hours of normal use (3 hours of s btooth, data off, wifi, surfing and Kindle). I charge every day but usually don't have to all the time.
It seems like turning data off really saves the battery as does living in a strong network area.
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If you have crappy battery life, install betterbatterystats from this forum and monitor your wakelocks.
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I'm getting pretty good battery life out of my G2X. I played ZDefense today for nearly 4 hours with music over stereo Bluetooth with wifi on and it ate about 45% of my battery.
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Zdefense is great, Hex defense is also, different enough to want to have both. When you say 4 hours gone on Zdefense, I understand.
I am one of those people with a lot of time near chargers, so battery is never an issue. I'm trying to keep this g2x stock. Only issue I've been having is some freezing when I'm on wifi and it's trying to use 2g, or when it really needs a power reset. I reset every day or two to keep it running smoothly enough.
Stock G2x. Zeam launcher.
Why is this phone in the midrange category?
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Why is this phone in the midrange category?
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512Mb RAM, 1GHz vs 1.2GHz, 1Gb RAM on SGSII maybe? I'm not sure I wondered the same thing. Could also be it's age vs newer devices.
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512Mb RAM, 1GHz vs 1.2GHz, 1Gb RAM on SGSII maybe? I'm not sure I wondered the same thing. Could also be it's age vs newer devices.
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The 1GHz vs 1.2GHz should not be any factor, it is faster than the 1.2GHz dual core Snapdragon in the Sensation, for example. The GPU in the G2x is also second only to that of the SGSII. The only thing I can think of is the fact that it has only 512MB of RAM.
I thought the range was based on cost after reading the article.
based on cost..... g2x is free most days of the week
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The 1GHz vs 1.2GHz should not be any factor, it is faster than the 1.2GHz dual core Snapdragon in the Sensation, for example. The GPU in the G2x is also second only to that of the SGSII. The only thing I can think of is the fact that it has only 512MB of RAM.
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Or the fact that the G2X has been troubled, and probability has already reached the end of it's manufacturer support cycle.
The G2x rightly belongs in a bargain bin.
Spyvie said:
Or the fact that the G2X has been troubled, and probability has already reached the end of it's manufacturer support cycle.
The G2x rightly belongs in a bargain bin.
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Cheer up Eeyore, there's no way of knowing that the phone has or has not reached the end of its support cycle. At least we have some great devs working on the device.
Speaking of endo of manufacture support, with the HTC Ruby (which is essentially a Sensation reboot) coming to T-Mobile in October I wonder what will happen with support for the Sensation (another reason I didn't take up T-Mobile's offer to exchange my G2X for the Sensation).
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Cheer up Eeyore, there's no way of knowing that the phone has or has not reached the end of its support cycle. At least we have some great devs working on the device.
Speaking of endo of manufacture support, with the HTC Ruby (which is essentially a Sensation reboot) coming to T-Mobile in October I wonder what will happen with support for the Sensation (another reason I didn't take up T-Mobile's offer to exchange my G2X for the Sensation).
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Ill tell you what will happen to the Sensation. It will become outdated like every other phone ever made.
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just curious lol I love to push my devices to the limit!
I'm pretty sure a 50% increase in CPU speed on a dual core processor is more than enough for this guy. Why would you even need to go higher? You'll just end up breaking your device and come here complaining to the devs that it's their fault..
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I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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Exactly. Same here!
i think if it was totally safe motorola would have been the one to do it and brag that they have the fastest tablet in the market with a 1.5 - 2.0 Ghz Processor. if you want you device to last, leave it with the stock speed, this thing is pretty fast as is, and if you do have to overclock i think the max would be what others have said 1.5. there is no other benefit, and i doubt you will notice any difference. other then your battery lasting 2 hours and your web pages loading a second faster (not important), and maybe apps opening a little faster(won't notice) and then your device getting hot as other have said, which can bcome an issue with other things on the the motherboard becoming hot. and in the next few months you'll end up with a Motorola DOOM
Ok, so i did a lot of research on HTC Sensation battery, and turns out its not an environment friendly battery. Infact if you've noticed, our phones heat up a lot and SUCK the hell outta the battery. HTC has to do something about Sense taking up so much RAM and memory.
Thanks
I agree 100%. Replacement of a diff one would be nice.
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Ok, so i did a lot of research on HTC Sensation battery, and turns out its not an environment friendly battery. Infact if you've noticed, our phones heat up a lot and SUCK the hell outta the battery. HTC has to do something about Sense taking up so much RAM and memory.
Thanks
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RAM and memory are the same in the context you used. And what does RAM usage have to do with the performance of the stock battery? NOTHING. RAM being used does not drain the battery faster. In fact, I want my RAM to be used, not just sitting there doing nothing. As long as whatever is using the RAM releases it when I need it for something else (sense does) I'm happy.
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Ya, I'm not too sure what the extensive research has revealed...the OP doesn't substantiate why stock battery has issues. Or what it has to do with RAM usage. Sure the battery has small mAh...but it doesn't require a lot of research to see that (as it is written on the battery).
I've made this statement before but then about head
Take your laptop off the charger and just leave it there most normal battery's of a laptop shouldn't last longer then 3-4h
The hardware of this phone is similar to a old Packard bell dot-s (the 2007 model)
1.5 ghz dual core with a 4.2 inch qhd screen is consuming a lot of battery usage. Nothing wrong with sense. Its allready build for the best performance and battery usage
If you want better battery life buy an anker 1900 or the 3800 something battery
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Its not only the Sensation that has this 'issue'.
Its common knowledge that any smartphone has poor battery life.
Not really gonna last much longer than a day.
At the end of the day, we are probably near the top limit of what Li-Ion batteries can do; Need a new type of technology to supersede it.
(PS, the most I got out of one charge cycle on my Sensation was 1 day, 11 hours and a few minutes - not too shabby I'd say)
The main problem is that all the latest phones has to be so f...... superslim.
Who cares if the phone is one or two mm thicker if we get an ekstra day of battery life?
I don't wear tights and my pockets can take it
Uae the anker battery it is amazing
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Uae the anker battery it is amazing
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Is it really *that* good? I've heard both!
Delete?
Can we delete this thread?
The title is misleading and there is no new information, only a random allegation that the battery is not 'environment friendly' whatever that means in this context.
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Is it really *that* good? I've heard both!
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It's not THAT good, but it's definitely BETTER than stock.
stroobach said:
I've made this statement before but then about head
Take your laptop of the charger and just leave it there most normal battery's of a laptop shouldn't last longer then 3-4h
The hardware of this phone is similar to a old Packard bell dot-s (the 2007 model)
1.5 ghz dual core with a 4.2 inch qhd screen is consuming a lot of battery usage. Nothing wrong with sense. Its allready build for the best performance and battery usage
If you want better battery life buy an anker 1900 or the 3800 something battery
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PLEASE stop making this comparison. Just because the frequency off the processor is similar does not mean they will act at all similarly in regards to energy consumption. proof: That laptop is getting 3-4h off of a battery many times the capacity of our batteries and many times the volume of the entire sensation. The laptop was designed for 100-150 watts of power, while the average phone is designed for less than 5. Sense is ABSOLUTELY NOT built for the best performance, as many custom roms have proven, and there is absolutely no way that modern, high tech tiny phone-scale dual core processors would be similar to 2007-era computing hardware in any way except for the number of cores and frequency. Also: Frequency does not mean everything. it only measures how many times the processor cycles. The important number is instructions per cycle or instructions per second.
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PLEASE stop making this comparison. Just because the frequency off the processor is similar does not mean they will act at all similarly in regards to energy consumption. proof: That laptop is getting 3-4h off of a battery many times the capacity of our batteries and many times the volume of the entire sensation. The laptop was designed for 100-150 watts of power, while the average phone is designed for less than 5. Sense is ABSOLUTELY NOT built for the best performance, as many custom roms have proven, and there is absolutely no way that modern, high tech tiny phone-scale dual core processors would be similar to 2007-era computing hardware in any way except for the number of cores and frequency. Also: Frequency does not mean everything. it only measures how many times the processor cycles. The important number is instructions per cycle or instructions per second.
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ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
You can't really compare a mobile phone and a laptop lol. A laptop has much more processing and graphic power as compared to a mobile phone.
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You do realise that Packard Bell laptop is rated for anything between 50W and 100W TDP, yes?
Your phone generates a tiny fraction of that. The two are not comparable simply because the clockspeed is similar.
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Your really comparing apples to oranges right now. These phones and the chips were designed with low power consumption in mind as well as heat so it doesn't damage anything in there, also a laptop like a member above said, has a whole lot more components than a phone. We're talking about harddrives, big 13-17in screens, WiFi, a bunch of other misc things as well.
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stroobach said:
ive been reading alot about the heat and batt drain problem in the forums
here is my version why its getting hot and why the batt is ''draining''
sinse the sensation comes with an underclocked 1.2 ghz DUAL core (most people clocked it back to 1.5ghz and some higher like me 1.7 or even 2.1ghz)
and a 4.2" qHD screen its quite understandable why the battery is draining..
those hardware specs needs a lot of power (duh)
also
when you take a look at the 2007 model of the Packard bell Dot-s
you will see thats clocked at a 1.6 dual core and now we see..
take any laptop off the charger and use it like your sensation.
take a look at xda
mail someone or some people
play a flashgame or something like that
your laptop wont last longer then 2-3H without charging
so why would your sensation last longer then 12h?
it takes a lot of power for the sensation to keep up with the processor
then the heat
again take a laptop for example
you will notice that your laptop have a fan to cool it
take the packard bell again
if you do nothing with the laptop your fan doesnt do anything to be honest..
it spins around but it isnt cooling
but when you start a game or browse some on xda you will notice that the air comming out of your fan is getting warmer
so why shouldnt get your sensation warmer?
since you do almost the same on your sensation as your laptop its getting warm
BUT your sensation doesnt have a fan or something close to cooling so yes it heats up faster
now dont be worried
when a laptops fan melfuncioned it shuts itself off at a temp around 80-90 degrees celsius
thats 90% of the maximum the chipset can handle
so i guess the sensation can handle 70-80 degrees celsius
that makes 40-50 degrees on your sensation nothing
so i hoped everyone starts to understand that great specs comes up with down sides like getting warmer and bigger battery drain
if you cant accept that fact then buy an Nokia 3310 or something in that direction a Iphone
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Really lol?
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well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
stroobach said:
well i didnt said its exacly the same as a laptop
but most things we do on our sensation can we also do on the laptop
like mailing, chatting, editing text, internet, skype, video's, and so on
i mend with the hardware that a 4.3'' qHD screen is using a lot of power
and a cpu at 1.5 or even 2.0 GHz is also using a lot of power
to clear out my statement im using a laptop as example not as its the same as a laptop
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So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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Nothing like a laptop. Poor analogy, can't forget to mention HDD. Mechanical hard drive will use much more energy than flash memory found in phones.
is this guy serious??
Catnap said:
So your point here comes down to 'it's a high-end phone and it uses battery like a high-end phone does'?
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indeed
at least someone who gets it
HTC needs a new battery to get battery life better
this one isnt build for so high end specs
My avatar seems fairly appropriate.
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Just get an Anker 1900mAh battery if you can't deal with stock battery life.
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Just web browsing over 3g for 20-30 min will heat the phone up pretty warm to the.touch. it also drains about 1% per 1 min of 3g browsing not even streaming. I'm still on 1.73 att. No apps in background and there is no idle battery drain. Is this normal? I'm guessing not brightness is set way under half
This happened to me only when I'm on like YouTube for a while but mine reaches like 110° F :-(
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mine gets hot as well just by browsing. it is right on the bottom left of where the camera is
If I just check FB or draw something, this phone will start searing my thigh when I put it back in my pocket. This phone is definitely HOT(not in a good way...)
I have had 0 heat issues (can only feel it heat up while charging)
Maybe this is because I had the iPad 3, so nothing seems hot in comparison
mine only heats up when im charging and using it at the same time (playing games usually)
Maybe someone should make a poll because I'm having zero heat issues. Played few games the other day while waiting for my gf's OBGYN doctor to come in and check out our soon to be baby and we was playing for a good half hour. Barely any heat at all. Charging produces hardly any heat if any heat at all (noticeably anyways).
The highest I've seen so far was 41C while using wifi tether. Since I came from Nitro HD, which goes to 63C when voice talk on skype or gtalk, and makes your brain boil, this didn't bother me a bit...
Mine only gets hot when I use google navigation, which is understandable. It gets warm when I play hanging with friends, but in my experience that game spikes the processor the entire time it's open.
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No heat issues at all for me, I tried to put as much load on the phone as I could to test this issue and all is well, it got warm to the touch but no more than any other smartphone I've used in the last ~6 years...
41c is not hot. My Atrix used to rocket up to 60-70. That was too hot. Think about it: 104 is barely warm enough for a hot tub. You can run a fever of 104 and be ok. Yeah, it's high for a person, but come on - dual 1.5ghz with a HD screen? They can't make that stuff make cold instead of heat!! Just saying...
It stays well under 50c. In my mind... *perfect*
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Mine only gets hot when I use google navigation, which is understandable. It gets warm when I play hanging with friends, but in my experience that game spikes the processor the entire time it's open.
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+1. Put your phone on your leg and drive with nav on. Heats up like a griddle after a few.
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ECEXCURSION said:
+1. Put your phone on your leg and drive with nav on. Heats up like a griddle after a few.
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Indeed it does! Thanks for the laugh also. I can't see that too many things would warm up the phone more than that. You are using the internet, GPS, and putting a heavy load on the battery at the same time after all.
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Indeed it does! Thanks for the laugh also. I can't see that too many things would warm up the phone more than that. You are using the internet, GPS, and putting a heavy load on the battery at the same time after all.
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I am coming from an LG Thrive and using GPS never got as hot as this phone or got hot as fast either. The only time it did get hot was if the sun shined right on it. I put my screen to never shut off and run google maps so that it would update to latitude. The HOX definitely gets very hot on a cloudy day when my Thrive would be just warm if that
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Just so we're clear, good build quality will often make the exterior of a device hotter. This helps keep the all-important interior cooler. Having my phone feel hot while being measurably at reasonable temperatures is good! You must be careful not to base your opinion of the device's thermal management on subjective senses rather than measured fact.
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Just so we're clear, good build quality will often make the exterior of a device hotter. This helps keep the all-important interior cooler. Having my phone feel hot while being measurably at reasonable temperatures is good! You must be careful not to base your opinion of the device's thermal management on subjective senses rather than measured fact.
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Oh I don't doubt that the phone has better thermal management. I was nearly stating the fact that it gets very hot when placed on your lap and doing nav... Can't really argue that one.
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Oh I don't doubt that the phone has better thermal management. I was nearly stating the fact that it gets very hot when placed on your lap and doing nav... Can't really argue that one.
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And I won't argue the subjective notion of heat on your lap during nav! I know 105-110 feels pretty doggone warm (I had to check the temp to make sure it wasn't overheating), but if the exterior is only a couple degrees different than the interior...? That's good stuff right there.
My phone does seem warm to me now that i think about it but it seems to happen when it wants..
yesterday i noticed it would get pretty warm (not ridiculously hot though) when i would be on it for a few minutes (texting, tweeting, the usual).
but then today it was just fine. it was warm but not like it was yesterday.
not sure if i'm just not used to having a phone with this type of casing, (i had an Inspire previously and it didn't seem to get too hot.) i would figure a phone with a plastic or similar material casing would feel warmer compared to something like with a metal back (correct me if i'm wrong )
I don't think that this phone should get hot. It uses a 28nm process while being just a dual core processor. I think that the voltage might be higher than it should be. We need custom kernels and roms for this baby!!!
raytraceme said:
I don't think that this phone should get hot. It uses a 28nm process while being just a dual core processor. I think that the voltage might be higher than it should be. We need custom kernels and roms for this baby!!!
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Could be the system memory. Could also be WiFi/radio.
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Hello XDA users,
Sadly my HTC Sensation XE had died,
RIghtnow im looking for a new phone but i do not have the money for any high end phones,
I have been looking up some review's about phone's that are about 200 euro's and out of all tests the MOTO G came on first place.
So far the only downside i found was that i do not have place for a SD card and that you cant pullout the battery
What is your experiance with the MOTO G and do you recommand it?
I am using my phone mostly for Facebook, Whatsapp and Music. Maybe a simple game on my way home in the bus.
Cheers,
Joey
Really good device to have! Storage wise you have about 12.92gb to use, i have about 4.5gb left with my 5 gb of music and 2 gb on apps. Performance wise its really good for some games i don't really play much games just a couple. Battery wise it'll last me about a day or two depending on what i'm doing. In the end i would totally recommend it!
Day to day usage I find the battery to be pretty awesome, i tend to play ingress and thats quite taxing on the battery with the GPS being always on, but i have no issues with the phone i only have an 8gb model and thats more than ample for my needs when you factor in the fact i use the FM Radio more than listen to mp3's and if i want to do that i have a streaming data package.
I recommended this phone to 4 other people and they have them now and love it
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Day to day usage I find the battery to be pretty awesome, i tend to play ingress and thats quite taxing on the battery with the GPS being always on, but i have no issues with the phone i only have an 8gb model and thats more than ample for my needs when you factor in the fact i use the FM Radio more than listen to mp3's and if i want to do that i have a streaming data package.
I recommended this phone to 4 other people and they have them now and love it
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If your GPS is always on how much does your battery last?
Well that sounds promising! even with a bigger battery in my Sensation it barely made the evening.
Do you guys have any experience with Rooting the Moto G? on my sensation it was a pain to do.
Rooting is simple if you know how to use adb
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Well that is right is awesome phone and great performance
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buntysatya said:
If your GPS is always on how much does your battery last?
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When i am playing ingress which i did hardcore today for 8 hours non stop with no charge
If u root it and put CM11 on it, than is really brutal phone. Really fast, good signal reception, good battery, exellent built quality and what is the most important thing for me is the size and the price. If there was a logo of Samsung or iPhone on it, then the price will be 400eu.
The verdict: For that price it`s perfect :good:
This phone is a testament to the principle that, sometimes, a particular thing is greater than the "sum of its parts." Throw the spec sheet out the window -- the important question is, "Does it simply perform well in day to day operations?" The answer to that question is an unequivocal "YES!"
The phone is phenomenal at this price point. The build quality is outstanding, and the phone is buttery smooth. If you want a phone to play high-end android games while multitasking with other RAM intensive apps then this phone may not be for you, but if you need a phone that performs well in completely ordinary day to day operations then there is absolutely not a phone on the market with the same performance and quality of the 'G' at this price.