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Been looking around alot for my first ANDROID device and thinking about getting the N1 but it seems the device has lotta issues.muti-touch problems,sms mms automatic deletion etc.....what do u guys think should i get it or not.if i flash the DESIRE rom will it fix all the issues the NEXUS has?thanks
I really like mine but if you are on the fence I would suggest waiting for something better. The OLED screen, while offering great contrast in doors, has serious visibility issues out doors. Also the cheap touch sensor really does suck. I have to use difficult controller layouts in game emulators because the phone has trouble recognizing dual touches on the same axis.
If it wasnt for those two issues i would totally tell you to jump on board. But i think you should wait for something similar with a better touch sensor and an LCD or Super AMOLED.
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yea it would be pain to play multi-touch games if the multi-touch actually doesnt work well.i did checked few videos of the nexus one reviews and cons,overall its a good phone but maybe i shouldn't give google the $530 unless they fix all the bugs.but what if i FLASH the DESIRE rom will it improve anything on the N1?
There is also the hardware problem with the 3G radio design(search youtube: Nexus 3G Problem)
GHOST99K said:
Been looking around alot for my first ANDROID device and thinking about getting the N1 but it seems the device has lotta issues.muti-touch problems,sms mms automatic deletion etc.....what do u guys think should i get it or not.if i flash the DESIRE rom will it fix all the issues the NEXUS has?thanks
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Yeah it has some minor issues, but the only one that actually bothers me is the crazy screen problem (which they promised to fix in 2.2), where you gotta turn the screen off and on to fix it. Which isn't a huge deal anyway.
If you're on verizon, and don't mind the design of Incredible, get that one. If not, then I say pick N1/Desire, they are pretty much the same (I prefer N1 because of the design and noise-cancelling mics).
Otherwise, doesn't matter which device you get, as long as it's android... this OS is freaking amazing, I swear.
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There is also the hardware problem with the 3G radio design(search youtube: Nexus 3G Problem)
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There is no 3G problem with new N1s, it's been confirmed many times over.
love my N1 but the incred may be worth getting.. only 2 days away. I just don't like sense but since you are thinking of doing the desire rom then you must want sense and the incred is better than the desire in a few small ways.
also if you have time don't rule out the 4g evo... on sprint and verizon summer so the rumors have it.
I went with N1 because you get the android OS updates months before anyone else because it's 100% stock.
thanks to all of u but UNFORTUNATELY im with US t-mobile so i have done all my research of upcoming gsm ANDROID for this year but nothing stands out but the nexus one.i have checked if the INCREDIBLE or the EVO was WORLDPHONE(cdma service with GSM sim slot like the touch pro 2 in sprint)but officially they not.its really sad for us gsm carrier users.so i guess i might take a chance at N1 because its better than the current phone im using(hd2).
@GHOST99K
I think it would be better to wait for Google I/O. That's just 3 weeks from now and many things could change then
thanx im gonna wait another month and c whats up with google.
i really want the N1 but i love a good qwerty. wish Tmobile would get the Milestone isnt Motorola suppose to be working on the "N2 with a qwerty?" this would make me very happy.
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i love my N1, but i wouldn't rule out the incredible, if you are looking at phones. and, if you can hold out, the evo should be a rockstar.
the incredible does have a few hardware one-ups on the N1. i have never had a problem with my screen only being dual touch, because i don't game on it. the camera is supposedly better on the incredible too. otherwise, they're essentially the same phone. and, because i'm rooted with unlocked bootloader, i am able to put the desire's (basically the same as incredible) ROM on it. i don't care for sense though. i don't know that the unlock methods for the N1 will work on the incredible, which may mean that you are stuck with sense on that phone, like it or not.
which may mean that you are stuck with sense on that phone, like it or not.
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You can easily switch to the default android home on a stock sense ROM. All you have to do is go to sense in applications and clear defaults.
you guys make me think I should return my N1 .....
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damn I try not to think how much I spent on it though, ridiculous...but at least it is not on a contract
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You can easily switch to the default android home on a stock sense ROM. All you have to do is go to sense in applications and clear defaults.
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Not on 2.1 sense thats stock. Thats only on flashed roms. I couldnt do it on my Incredible sooo...
That's interesting. I was able to do it with my hero. I am also able to do it with the fresh ROM, but Launcher2 could have been added and not included in the leaked Sprint ROM. I believe it was mentioned that the vanilla lock screen was in the leaked ROM, but broken. Since I do not plan on reverting to the sprint ROM, I will have to rely on some very patient person to let us know if this is true for the Hero too. Although Launcher2 runs so slow I could only imagine using it on an overclocked Hero.
A fun question. How many of us Sidekick 4G owners bought them to replace our rusty, err, trusty G1s? I get the feeling a lot of us made such a migration.
I held onto my G1 until last month, since I could find no other Android phone on the UMTS 1700 band with a keyboard so good. I just couldn't bear the thought of using a touch screen all day. When I saw the Sidekick's I knew I had to have one. And while I do miss that old workhorse, I've also enjoyed my time with the Sidekick. It's nice to finally have a current phone for once in my life!
I ended up selling that G1, cracked screen housing and all, to a friend for $50. Not only is it his first Android device, but also his first smart phone. With the addition of a new battery and a fresh ROM it should have another year or even two of life in it.
I had the G1 until I finally had an upgrade. Still have my trusty G1 just in case something magically goes wrong.
Didnt come straight from the g1 but had it when it first came out. I thought it was one of the cheapest built smartphones ive had but instead ended up being one of the toughest and survived many drops. i miss the g1's design. Im one of the few that thought it looked nice.
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A fun question. How many of us Sidekick 4G owners bought them to replace our rusty, err, trusty G1s? I get the feeling a lot of us made such a migration.
I held onto my G1 until last month, since I could find no other Android phone on the UMTS 1700 band with a keyboard so good. I just couldn't bear the thought of using a touch screen all day. When I saw the Sidekick's I knew I had to have one. And while I do miss that old workhorse, I've also enjoyed my time with the Sidekick. It's nice to finally have a current phone for once in my life!
I ended up selling that G1, cracked screen housing and all, to a friend for $50. Not only is it his first Android device, but also his first smart phone. With the addition of a new battery and a fresh ROM it should have another year or even two of life in it.
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I'm seriously thinking about buying this phone... I miss my G1's kb, I've been putzing along with the og Droid for a couple years (I was living in the states). Now that I'm back in Canada, I need a replacement. I'm not thrilled with the lack of decent camera, but that sweet sweet keyboard looks oh so nice. I do a lot of remote server admin and so the keyboard is a big deal for me.
Are the ROMs any good? I don't need the fancy crap it looks like they've piled on top, just a standard type Android UI would be nice for me.
Failing this I'd probably get the Milestone/Droid 3, but it's been getting kinda meh reviews.
The ROMs aren't bad, we're still improving each release, but they're much better than stock. Not sure exactly what you like in a ROM, but as far as Froyo Touchwiz goes, these are pretty solid. If you do happen to get this phone and find that the ROM selection isn't what you are looking for, PM me and we'll see what we can do to get a ROM made that fits your desires.
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The ROMs aren't bad, we're still improving each release, but they're much better than stock. Not sure exactly what you like in a ROM, but as far as Froyo Touchwiz goes, these are pretty solid. If you do happen to get this phone and find that the ROM selection isn't what you are looking for, PM me and we'll see what we can do to get a ROM made that fits your desires.
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Thanks, that's very generous of you! Really all I want is to use the phone as a palmtop computer... browser, email, SSH, etc. I don't care much about eye candy or special effects, speed and efficiency are my main concerns. Not so much concerned with it as a social media platform either as an IT consultant's accessory Oh, and Google Navigation!
To give you an idea, here's my apps:
ConnectBot
AndroidVNC
ES File Explorer
Files Anywhere
K-9 Mail
PdaNet
QR Droid
Wifi Analyzer
SipDroid
Skype
Remote Web Desktop
Square
SwiftKeyX
etc
Didn't come directly from a g1 but I bought the g1 the first day it came out, had it until cyanogen stopped supporting it, and then tried out several different phones and none of them satisfied me. I could never get used to an all touchscreen device and most keyboards were very lacking. The sidekick has the best keyboard I have ever used, I like it better than the g1's. I still keep my g1 and use it for a bluetooth keyboard on my ipad/ps3 since blueputdroid doesn't support samsung's bluetooth drivers for some reason.
Sounds just like me! I work in IT as well and use most of those apps as well, and as far as i've found, there's no issues with them, and the keyboard is an IT person's best friend.
I'm getting the Sidekick in a couple days. Coming from the Mytouch 1.2 I have a couple roms I developed in the G1 section. I was wondering if and why there is no Gingerbread for Sidekick? Just curious. Also does anyone know if CM will support it? Thanks. I'm new to the Sidekick.
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There's no gingerbread for it because there's no gingerbread source. CM probably won't officially support it, as CM doesn't officially support anything Samsung other than the Galaxy S. When we get the GB source, someone (probably me) will at least try porting an unofficial CM7, but until we get the source, there's no efficient way to port it.
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There's no gingerbread for it because there's no gingerbread source. CM probably won't officially support it, as CM doesn't officially support anything Samsung other than the Galaxy S. When we get the GB source, someone (probably me) will at least try porting an unofficial CM7, but until we get the source, there's no efficient way to port it.
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So Samsung wont release the source. I hope it gets released soon. If so I'd like to work with you to get a CM ROM going for it. I have two CM7 Roms in the G1 Development forums.
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Also can anyone brush me up on ODIN, and Voodoo?
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Odin flashes firmware like fastboot does for HTC phones (kind of).
Odin is used to restore to stock from any state other than a hard brick. It just restores system images to the partitions.
Voodoo is the set of tweaks commonly used to implement the Lagfix, aka EXT4 partitions. Voodoo ClockworkMod recovery is Red, and is implemented in the Bali kernel.
I would be open to working with you on it, as I am for most people on most projects, let me know if you ever wanna work on anything together.
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Odin flashes firmware like fastboot does for HTC phones (kind of).
Odin is used to restore to stock from any state other than a hard brick. It just restores system images to the partitions.
Voodoo is the set of tweaks commonly used to implement the Lagfix, aka EXT4 partitions. Voodoo ClockworkMod recovery is Red, and is implemented in the Bali kernel.
I would be open to working with you on it, as I am for most people on most projects, let me know if you ever wanna work on anything together.
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Sounds great. Thanks for the info. I kinda new but wanted to be sure. Ill be glued to Google for a bit to educate myself on the Sidekick.
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There's no gingerbread for it because there's no gingerbread source. CM probably won't officially support it, as CM doesn't officially support anything Samsung other than the Galaxy S. When we get the GB source, someone (probably me) will at least try porting an unofficial CM7, but until we get the source, there's no efficient way to port it.
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what about cm6... Not the most recent but still good
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Working on it, has some major compiling issues.
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Working on it, has some major compiling issues.
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Will wait for it... Good luck and thanks for not leaving
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what about cm6... Not the most recent but still good
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I'd be happy with that for now.
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hey guys, i just got myself a nexus s (switched from a captivate, to galaxy s 2, then to nexus s) and was looking into flashing the ICS port. I had done some reading about locked and unlocked bootloaders, so i wanted to know does it matter whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked if i were to flash the ICS port? i ask because i know there are specific roms for each bootloader in the android development.
also another question, if anyone here could give me some feedback on the daily use of the ICS port, whether they are happy with it. i've watched a couple youtube videos of the recent port and it seems to work quite well, but i wouldn't mind some feedback on it first. lately ive been running MIUI, so im content just using that if the ICS port isn't at that stage yet.
thanks for any input
You didn't do much reading if you don't know the bootloader needs to be unlocked to flash a custom recovery which in turn lets you flash custom roms.
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i guess i may be wrong, but i had read this thread and figured it wasnt necessary
[GUIDE] Root & recovery WITHOUT oem unlock & wipe (2.3.2 & older, plus now 2.3) --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931865
i realize that its for the lower versions of 2.3 but thats what it's running right now. whoever owned it before hadn't updated it. but either way that answers my question, so ill unlock it
in terms of the usability of the ics ports. I've been using Drew Garen's ports for about two weeks now. Extremely usable and stable. Its almost impossible to tell its an sdk port. His current beta 10 has everything working except for bluetooth and a slightly inaccurate gps. He said that he got a true ics rom working using the galaxy nexus dump so that should be released soonish.
Very good port indeed. However, Im having trouble to make whatsapp work properly. Contacts never shown in the app.... anyone know how to solve this?
thanks for your input guys. i did go through and read quite a bit of pages through the rom thread (worked my way from the back forward), and it seemed like it should be good enough for me. i don't really ever use bluetooth, and gps occasionally, so i should be able to manage with it. and i do use whatsapp, so ill install it tomorrow and see if i figure any solution out to your problem jpvalenz
is there a way to port this build Here to our phone?
Sure if you want a paper weight
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lol ^
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No each rom is specialized to a specific phone unless otherwise stated. The best ics rom I have used to so far which looks almost identical to that rom is [ROM] Sky Ice Cream Sandwich (2.3.5 <<WHAT DOES THIS SAY?) Multiple Flavors 1/24/12
Many kudos to seanscreams. Good documentation, quick, and average battery life, by my testing.
Cheers
If the T-Mobile version gets it, then we may see it sooner than the official release. the OG GSGII has very different hardware.
Converter
There is a way to put S2 roms on skyrockets but I'm not very familiar with it and I've never tried it out etc.
i can't remember where it is but its in the Dev section i believe and its a converter so u install the rom then convert it from recovery menu and stuff
idk don't hold my word to it because i haven't tried it yet
but just an idea
Won't work, different hardware, different hardware identifiers, different...differences.
It's all speculation at this point.
Besides, there's already a build out there floating around, but key features aren't working.
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There is a way to put S2 roms on skyrockets but I'm not very familiar with it and I've never tried it out etc.
i can't remember where it is but its in the Dev section i believe and its a converter so u install the rom then convert it from recovery menu and stuff
idk don't hold my word to it because i haven't tried it yet
but just an idea
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Let me get this right...
You don't know where you got this info from, don't remember where this mythical tool is, and you haven't tried yet, but you are confident it is doable?
Let us all know when you remember where we can get this imaginary tool. I am not holding my breath meanwhile.
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Let me get this right...
You don't know where you got this info from, don't remember where this mythical tool is, and you haven't tried yet, but you are confident it is doable?
Let us all know when you remember where we can get this imaginary tool. I am not holding my breath meanwhile.
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I'm sure he's thinking of the method of getting T-Mobile Hercules roms over to our Skyrocket... That's not too big of a deal, because again, the hardware is the same, just different modems need to be used.
But like stated before, this won't happen. May be the same OS, but without the same hardware, it's useless to us. We're not going to get ICS until they release it/it leaks for either the Skyrocket or Hercules.
hi..
i'm getting this phone since i was tired waiting for the JB port for the captivate glide (and i mean a port which actually works with bluetooth phone), plus, i see that it seems to have a faster processor, and actually official support for JB) still i don't understand why it's considered low activity legacy device. (i don't care much about the camera, at most i just do portal submission to google. )
Um, not to be rude, but where's the question? lol
It's specs are rather mid-range, the keyboard is very niche by now.. so it's a low activity device due to its low popularity?
why it's considered low activity legacy device?
is no one using it?
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is no one using it?
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it's a niche device. far less popular than the big names like galaxy s3/s4, htc one, xperia z etc etc
so is the captivate glide i assume...
and yet it has it's own forum..
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it's a niche device. far less popular than the big names like galaxy s3/s4, htc one, xperia z etc etc
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emaayan said:
and yet it has it's own forum..
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uh, yes, and this is relay's own. doesn't really matter where they put it...
We didn't choose to put the device here. The mods did.
We're lucky to even have a forum. Despite the fact that low end phones which you've never heard of got forums before they even launched, the mods decided that the Relay was not popular enough to have one. Even once we had a booting CM9 ROM. After 6 months of complaints, they finally gave us one. But they put it here.
Previously we were squatting in another device's forum, so this is an improvement.
but it still looks better then the captivate glide..
i mean it has an OFFICIAL jellybean, and i'm assuming someone made it a stock rom of jelly bean. it has a better processor even.
what i don't understand is why do you even NEED a section of low activity devices, i mean it's not like you don't have enough ROOM on the internet like a library or something.
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i mean it has an OFFICIAL jellybean, and i'm assuming someone made it a stock rom of jelly bean. it has a better processor even.
what i don't understand is why do you even NEED a section of low activity devices, i mean it's not like you don't have enough ROOM on the internet like a library or something.
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Well, I don't know what you'd have us do about it. No one here had anything to do with the decision, or possesses the power to change it.
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Well, I don't know what you'd have us do about it. No one here had anything to do with the decision, or possesses the power to change it.
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Aye, and to your earlier point we worked hard to get us our own little space.
Had the device gotten it's own forum at launch or before it, popularity would be higher... but that's a cause and effect issue that's long past debating.
Woot.
We got a forum!
~Running CM10.1
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It's just less popular. The phone quite good actually.
Well like I said , I gave up on it: ( wish I could use it.
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I'm going to try something outrageous and attempt to whore this thread to ON topic ..
I'm thinking about swtiching from the captivate glide for the same reasons, i want a jellybean phone with working bluetooth and a physical qwerty keyboard.
How do you relay 4g owners find the keyboard vs. the glide ? easier to type?
How are the cases, number row easy to access?
How are the Rom's ... Fully working, issues ??
I'm pretty comfortable with my phone but i've never been "in love" with teh keyboard like I was on a blackberry.. .i find the keys are too spaced apart and too big for typing without looking at the keyboard.
speed performance etc are great.
camera spec shows 5mp camera vs. 8mp. How are the quality of the pictures vs the glides ??
Thanks much!
my impression were (i've ditched it and returned to glide)
the keyboard does seem easier to type, and glide buttons seem harder to press, i keep getting my fingers stuck in the middle between the keys. the numbers row are easy access cases seem solid.
roms however are a problem, i'm talking about the stock roms as i havn't been able nor to root, or intstall a rom. there seems to be a wifi issue that keeps getting the phone disconnected and re-connected, making internet connection impossible, initially i thought it might be my AP acting up, but the glide didn't have any issues. only the relay.
another main problem, is that performance, or lack of it. to tell you the truth , i didn't notice any difference, in fact it might have been more sluggish then the glide. this off course might have been an issue with all the bloatware i couldn't uninstall not being root, however i noticed that with jellybean you specify disable on each service, and that might have been helfull.
my attempts at doing root, failed. i tried using CWM, (there seems to be only one version for this phone) however this particualr cwm fails at installing everything else on signature verification message. in other cwm mods, and twrp you can disable signature verification, but they are all being installed with cwm (not odin flashable).
in the end i tried re-flashing the rom with JB, and ended up with wel..not a brick, but ever since then, i can't seem to dial out. there internet seems to be working over the sim card, but not dialing. i'm not sure if i should get another phone to try again, as there doesn't seem to be much support, actually i didn't even see any "bare boned" rooted stable non-alpha roms for this thing yet (or ever be). like the glide has.
as for the camera, i realy don't think there's a difference between 5 and 8 mp, i didn't see any difference.
in short, hardware the phone seems fine, however the rom ,root, etc.. lack of it) doesn't seem to be very common, as of know i'm not sure if i should get another one and try again, or hold off and see if it dies.
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I'm going to try something outrageous and attempt to whore this thread to ON topic ..
I'm thinking about swtiching from the captivate glide for the same reasons, i want a jellybean phone with working bluetooth and a physical qwerty keyboard.
How do you relay 4g owners find the keyboard vs. the glide ? easier to type?
How are the cases, number row easy to access?
How are the Rom's ... Fully working, issues ??
I'm pretty comfortable with my phone but i've never been "in love" with teh keyboard like I was on a blackberry.. .i find the keys are too spaced apart and too big for typing without looking at the keyboard.
speed performance etc are great.
camera spec shows 5mp camera vs. 8mp. How are the quality of the pictures vs the glides ??
Thanks much!
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I moved to this phone from the samsung epic. I loved that phone and wanted something similar so I got the relay on a whim. I was able to root and install cm with little trouble. The keyboard is nice but I think the droid 4 keyboard feels nicer. My fiancee has the droid 4, however, and the phone has had many problems with it. Some chargers do not fit well in port, thus not charging the phone. Also the phone gets really hot and read somewhere sometimes this melts stuff inside, thus phone not charging the phone as well. Overall relay is boss, although I rooted and flashed everything before official jb update. So not sure what that entails. The new kernel is still iffy for me. Getting "...not responding" messages for several apps stock and otherwise, but running 6.19 build and everything is smooth.
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