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What's something close to HD2 and as good?

Except the Nexus one because I can't afford the data plan on it
Whats a good phone other than the HD2 because I have an HD2 right now and it sucks! (updated rom as well)
Should I just wait until the phone is fully updated with no problems or return it because it'll always stay the same load of **** problems?

How does it suck! :O

MarsHD2 said:
Except the Nexus one because I can't afford the data plan on it
Whats a good phone other than the HD2 because I have an HD2 right now and it sucks! (updated rom as well)
Should I just wait until the phone is fully updated with no problems or return it because it'll always stay the same load of **** problems?
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Just how does it suck?
you don't say what rom or radio or hspl you are using

Well I love it, it doesn't suck but it just has too many problems! That's why I want a similar phone. Someone said that it was a hardware problem and software updates can't fix the problems that come with the phone (mostly lag)

Everyone has different experiences with this phone. I for one have minor annoyances the biggest being how ugly basic windows mobile is . I am using Nrg's latest rom and let me tell ya the phone flys.
Imo windows will always have some problems . Some can be ignored but some cant but Nothing is wrong with the phone.
No one can make up your mind about keeping the phone.

And there's a phone (or any electronics) out there that doesn't have software glitch? Maybe those that have nothing except gigantic buttons for grandmas.

Just wait a week and get the Galaxy S. Can understand where you are coming from, but I think you should give the LIA rom a go(regular, with Opera 10 added by yourself) before giving up on the HD2. Extendir + netripper's 1 Ghz hack really makes a huge difference.
Got to use an HTC Desire last weekend and can say I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. Was expecting iPhone smoothness, but not so.

It does seem to be that some people encounter issues while others don't. My hd2 ran fine with the stock rom and it ran better once flashed. I would suggest you flash as Toss 3 mentioned. See if you like custom roms and if you dont, return your phone to stock and return for a not so prompt refund.

Say Hello to a Confused and Recent HTC Convert

I just finally dumped Big Red and came over to AT&T (combined contracts with my wife). I'm going from the HTC Incredible and purchased the Sammy Captivate. I was very active back in the Dinc forum, and would consider myself "Advanced" - I did some development, but wasn't yet at the level of ROM Cooking.
I got over here to the Captivate - I'm confused as hell. I've followed my own advice and read forum after forum after forum before posting anything - the Cappy just seems like Greek to me.
Here's what I'm picking up:
1. GPS is spotty, but not for everyone. Mine has always been dead on, but then again I'm not a first-adopter of the Galaxy S. Perhaps it was a batch issue?
2. ROMs seem significantly harder to cook for the Cappy. I see a bunch of leaks from the Froyo build, but it looks half-done at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm running Cognition and I love it for day to day use. I had read a bit online about the lag issues, but I didn't imagine they would be *this* prominent even after rooting and removing bloatware.
That's about it, really. I'm checking back in the forums every day. I'm loving the hardware on this phone - the screen is fantastic, and when the Cappy is fast it's FAST. But I've gotta admit I'm fairly dissapointed thus far with some of the User Experience pieces. The Samsung overlay has some nice attributes (the swiping in Contacts is great, for one), but there are other bits that are wholly frustrating about this phone (WHY would they make the buttons at the bottom time out before the screen, forcing you to touch the screen to get the buttons lit up again??).
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
I must apologize, this has turned from a general "how do you do" to a vent-fest. I'd love to hear from any experienced and new users alike. Thanks!

hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).

What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.

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What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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I haven't had any problems with Wifi and use WPA. I can see all of my networks (which are G, not N).
The button thing is kind of annoying, so I agree with you there. My GPS has been hit or miss, but I bought this phone used, so I'm not sure if it was a first batch model or not.
There's not much in the way of ROMs. There's stock and leaks, then there's Cognition and Eugene's, and that's about it. All of those are based on a leak or stock build, so they'll usually contain the same problems as the stock/leak build.
We're supposed to be getting a CyanogenMOD ROM sometime, or at least be able to port it...but I'm sure they can't do anything until Samsung releases the source for Froyo.

Anoter HTC convert here, but I came from the Pure.
GPS is definitely an issue. Mine improved with the OTA update to JH7. Its still not as accurate at highway speeds as the HTC.
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.

vbhines said:
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.

Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
The lag on the galaxy s phones is the result of samsung using rfs file system - rfs has a much slower input/output read/write than ext* file systems generally found on linux distros. This is the lag that is being refereed to in the lag fixes.
so as long as samsung continues to put out official roms with rfs file system there will always be an opportunity for a "lag fix" with ext2 (i.e. ryanza's OCLF) or ext4 (i.e. voodoo).

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GPS is hit or miss, but on the FroYo leak it has gotten much better, unfortunately Samsung released the phones with brand new hardware and apparently didn't test...
The lag is as mentioned another Samsung fubar along the lines of using an inferior file system.
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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MikeyMike01 said:
That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
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I've done a lot of research, and I alluded to that point in my post. Survey the *American* market and empirically you will see that of the slate Android phones, most have the buttons in the order Home, Menu, Back, Search. And I would argue that it has everything to do with Samsung - unless you're implying that someone else designed the layout of the buttons on their device. After all, they are the reason the European variant of the i9000 has three buttons like the X10, correct?
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Funny.
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Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
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Thanks, dayv. That's a good explanation and gives me some idea of where to go from here.
As for an update, turns out the WiFi issues were strictly hardware. After putting in a bridge with my FiOS router and still not getting any improvement, I took it back to Best Buy and swapped it out. Connected the second I got home. Unfortunately, the touch buttons were totally borked and I had to do a battery pull three times in 20 minutes because apparently the buttons would "touch themselves when they thought of me." In other words, you could see the buttons flash on and off, feel the haptic go crazy, and all kinds of strange stuff on the screen. Yet another swapout and I'm good to go.
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.

sdotbrucato said:
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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I imagine we can also add to this that the Captivate has only been out for not quite 3 months if I recall correctly. So between the newness and people holding their breath for Froyo I could understand people's hesitancy to invest a lot of time and energy in making a soon to be outdated ROM.

came from a tilt2 which is/was? still trying to develop android..it was pretty good but wow i can never go back to windows phone after that mess. freggin love this captivate thou...when it doesnt break lol. ive never had a phone that i seem to get ALL the known issues with and still decide to stick with getting a new one instead. I miss sense somedays but overall i still am willing to stick with a less "bogged down" OS that i can practically do the same with. if i can make the phone do what i need faster then screw the pretty screen gadgets lol

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HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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I'm sorry but I to came from the htc aria, awesome little phone. I bought the aria because I thought the sense ui was pretty awesome. After using Cyanogen mods on the aria and playing with other launchers and now playing with tw launcher, sorry but sense ui is crap and for noobs . I got over the whole sense ui about a week of owning the aria and wasn't able to use it after adw and launcher pro.
Sorry had to post it. I just don't feel you can use an androids phone ui to bash another phone. I have only seen a few who use any androids phone stock ui any way and I'm one of them and as basic as it is it still makes sense ui look a babies toy.
Sent from my Cognition v2.2 BETA 4 Froyo - RyanZA's OCLF and Screaming Fast

bytemare said:
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?

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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Not a chance lol the aria is awesome for its size but doesn't come close to the captivate , that's just my imo though. Only problem I have had with captivate is gps and I really don't use gps, so not that big of deal. The aria, like I said awesome for its size, just has to small of processor to do what the captivate can do. Most things lag on the aria games and movies almost un playable. I love my captivate.
I had bought an iphone4 for my wife to replace her old iphone. Well long story short , I turned a "i will not use anything else but iphone ! " the iphone 4 went back two weeks of having it cause of to many problems to we booth own captivates now and shes sold.
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besides the gps.... i am very satisfied. here is why.....
I woke up this morning and opened allshare to stream music from my synology diskstation. Got in the car and loaded up bluetooth to my moto speakerphone/radio transmitter. Put my captivate in my proclipusa mount and Loaded up pandora to stream to my car stereo... Loaded up the navigation for testing purposes and was on my way...
Both worked without issue on the commute in.. rocking to guerrillla radio and limp bizkit. Got some tweets and emails... and the phone took it like... IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!!!
My blackberry 9700 would have exploded and for sure the "r" key would have flew straight into my forehead... where then people would ask me why i have an R indented in my head... is it for Retard?
I rate the phone 95% out of 100%. If you really have that much to complain about then you will never be happy with any phone.....
p.s. - for people who have captivates that reboot or shutoff, that has to be a defect and you need to get it replaced. My phone has never rebooted or shutoff by itself.
p.s.s. Gps isn't great... but the phone does everything else i need really well.
rant over.

vbhines said:
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.

bigdaddy4u said:
Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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That's an interesting question. The aria costs a lot less than the captivate. As far as hardware goes, the captivate is superior: 16 GB RAM, the screen is awesome, the speaker is better (ringtones sound nicer) and the quality of phone calls, at least for me, is a lot better than the aria. Oh and the camera is LOT better on the captivate. I haven't had issues with the GPS (the aria locked on a little faster, but captivate performs well). The issues with wireless for me are really frustrating, but others don't seem to have an issue (wireless sometimes works, sometimes doesn't even though it's connected, I have no idea why).
Based on my experience, I'd rather have the captivate. It definitely takes more tweaking than the aria but in the 1 week I've had it, I think I got everything worked out. I definitely liked the sense UI and email client on the aria, but I can live with the UI and stuff on the captivate considering how much better the hardware is.
If anyone has any idea about how to fix wireless, I'd really appreciate it.

Yeah I'm not gonna lie, we really don't have much of choice on at&t . To me we only have two choices right now Aria or captivate. If at&t got a htc equivalent to the captivate then I would have a hard choice .
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wmwilker said:
If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Thanks for the tip! I've never met a ROM that I wouldn't reflash if something else came along. I will try it out later tonight. Do you happen to know if the Twiz mods for custom fonts will flash ok?
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From Inspire to Atrix back to Inspire :D

I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?

Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?

If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.

Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.

SysAdmNj said:
I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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pokey9000 said:
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...

Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG

I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.

This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.

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~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP

Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.

CoreDroid HD 4.6
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All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.

I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..

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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.

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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..

Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...

In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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rjayflo said:
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.

Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him

[Q] Anyone know if CM7 (or any stock-based mod) is in the works?

I've had the G1, MyTouch 3G, Incredible, Droid X, Nexus S, G2, Thunderbolt, and now the Charge --- and by far, the Charge has the ugliest built-in theme (brown/orange) I have ever seen on any phone and not to mention the tons of Verizon/Samsung bloatware, though the latter can be fixed by rooting it.
Don't get me wrong - I love my DC for a ton of reasons and am holding on to it, but I am desperately hoping there will be some form Gingerbread (preferably CM7) that remains as close as possible to stock anytime soon. Anyone know if something like this is in the works?

kcellb said:
I've had the G1, MyTouch 3G, Incredible, Droid X, Nexus S, G2, Thunderbolt, and now the Charge --- and by far, the Charge has the ugliest built-in theme (brown/orange) I have ever seen on any phone and not to mention the tons of Verizon/Samsung bloatware, though the latter can be fixed by rooting it.
Don't get me wrong - I love my DC for a ton of reasons and am holding on to it, but I am desperately hoping there will be some form Gingerbread (preferably CM7) that remains as close as possible to stock anytime soon. Anyone know if something like this is in the works?
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while anything is possible...and im not saying this to be a jerk, just a realist...its extremely unlikely the charge will ever see an extremely functional cm7 or aosp
its taken months for the fascinate to have anything resembling working aosp and even now there are issues (mms, camcorder) that may never be worked out due to samsungs incomplete/lousy source
through lte/cdma hybrid ril in there, and the lack of devs who worked on aosp for the fasciante...and thats just a death sentence really for aosp
now im pretty certain this phone will get gingerbread from samsung/verizon...i mean 1. its in the droid line which means something and 2. its brand new now and id find it hard to see it not get it
when that is? who knows...but theres that to look forward to at some point

I see your point and you're exactly right, especially when the GS2 may be here in about 2~4 months. Well what ever the dev can work out for us I'll welcome it. All I need is a super clean ROM and voodoo on the Charge lol
Hey I can dream right?

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I see your point and you're exactly right, especially when the GS2 may be here in about 2~4 months. Well what ever the dev can work out for us I'll welcome it. All I need is a super clean ROM and voodoo on the Charge lol
Hey I can dream right?
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it looks like imnuts is getting closer to his goal to buy a charge....so im sure you ll have ext4 kernels, and clean roms soon enough

Just got a Charge for my daughter. Nice phone. May finally upgrade my CM7 OG Droid, but haven't made up my mind. Still kinda waiting on SGS2. I would love to be able to put a stock ROM on her phone though. The bloat is amazing.

How is CM7 on the mT4G?

Hello,
I currently have a SGS i9000, and was thinking of trading it for one of these phones as I'm not really content with the dead end Sammy is providing, and with the RIL and Camera being closed, CM7 is battery consuming and not very stable.
So I was wondering, is it any better here?

Lesiroth said:
Hello,
I currently have a SGS i9000, and was thinking of trading it for one of these phones as I'm not really content with the dead end Sammy is providing, and with the RIL and Camera being closed, CM7 is battery consuming and not very stable.
So I was wondering, is it any better here?
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are you kidding?
CM7 is like THE BEST AOSP ROM out there for the Glacier.
it's
very FAST
very STABLE
very BATTERY EFFICIENT
i don't know what they did with Samsungs, but Cyanogen Team did a very good job on the Glacier.

I'm using CM7 since 2 month now and I have no issue.
Like saranhai has said, CM7 (actually 7.1.0) is stable, fast and work very well on the Panache / MyTouch4G / glacier.
Regards.

my personal opinion, AOSP blows everything else out of the water. Ive been running CM7 nightlies for months now with little to no issues. Sure Ill flash a different rom here and there just to change things up a bit or try something new, but I always fall back to CM7. Like the others said, its fast, stable, and great on battery life. It might look plain and boring when you first boot up, but there are so many things you can customize to get your "perfect" look. If you want more stability tho, CM7 7.1 is what youre looking for. Although I havent had any issues with the latest Nightly 252...but yeah CM7 on the MT4G is a beast

Well for the SGS, it's not CM team's fault. Samsung unfortunately use components that need proprietary files to work and so it's hard to work with them.
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?

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Well for the SGS, it's not CM team's fault. Samsung unfortunately use components that need proprietary files to work and so it's hard to work with them.
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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I cant really compare them both as the myTouch is my first android device and Ive never really messed with a SGS...but I have heard some bad things about MOST samsung phones(gps issues, lag, etc..) I think the switch will be well worth it, but with quad core cell phones on the horizon you might want to wait it out, unless you can get a Glacier for dirt cheap

Lesiroth said:
Well for the SGS, it's not CM team's fault. Samsung unfortunately use components that need proprietary files to work and so it's hard to work with them.
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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my dad has an SGS, but i've never flashed CM7 to it before (seems like too much work, and very confusing )
but if you ask me, i would say that the switch is worth it. the Glacier, like all HTC devices may be harder to obtain root, but afterwards, flashing is VERY easy (no need to mess with bootloaders/odin/modems or whatever).
but there is ONE bad thing that you may want to consider:
since the Galaxy S is such a popular device and is an international device, it has WAYY more development than the Glacier does. Galaxy S has a HUGE community. but that's pretty small, sometimes having too many rom choices is bad

Flashing it is not THAT hard IMO.
Obviously if I had the money I'd get a much higher-end phone but I'm a broke college student and I can trade phones without paying money so if it's an upgrade I'll go for it.
I assume GPS is working fine, right? I practically had no GPS with how dodgy it was.
Regarding developer activity: Yes there is a lot but IMO there's nothing really different. 99% of the ROMs out there is just stock with some themes and tweaks. The other choice is just CM7/MIUI/early ICS ports, all of which will always face battery problems and camera issues.

Lesiroth said:
Flashing it is not THAT hard IMO.
Obviously if I had the money I'd get a much higher-end phone but I'm a broke college student and I can trade phones without paying money so if it's an upgrade I'll go for it.
I assume GPS is working fine, right? I practically had no GPS with how dodgy it was.
Regarding developer activity: Yes there is a lot but IMO there's nothing really different. 99% of the ROMs out there is just stock with some themes and tweaks. The other choice is just CM7/MIUI/early ICS ports, all of which will always face battery problems and camera issues.
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GPS works great.
Also, if you are trading your SGS for a MT4G, go for it! It is a definite upgrade. My dad has a SGS and I have a MT4G, and I definitely enjoy my phone much more than he does.

Lesiroth said:
Flashing it is not THAT hard IMO.
Obviously if I had the money I'd get a much higher-end phone but I'm a broke college student and I can trade phones without paying money so if it's an upgrade I'll go for it.
I assume GPS is working fine, right? I practically had no GPS with how dodgy it was.
Regarding developer activity: Yes there is a lot but IMO there's nothing really different. 99% of the ROMs out there is just stock with some themes and tweaks. The other choice is just CM7/MIUI/early ICS ports, all of which will always face battery problems and camera issues.
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i never had any problems with GPS on CM7.
haha well, i just got really confused with all the things you had to do, coming from an HTC device.

Thanks guys, I guess I'll go for it! One last question: How's the build quality? I hate the cheapy plastic feeling of my phone so I'm hoping this one's better in that regard as well.

Lesiroth said:
Thanks guys, I guess I'll go for it! One last question: How's the build quality? I hate the cheapy plastic feeling of my phone so I'm hoping this one's better in that regard as well.
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Stainless steel with a soft touch finish (no plastic). Hard buttons instead of soft, and a track pad. The headphone and lock button are also in a much nicer and more natural place than the SGS. Trackpad isn't that useful though.
However, this does make it heavier than the SGS.

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Trackpad isn't that useful though.
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I use it to wake my device instead of the power button.

After a year of use, my back and home menus squeek when used. Not bad but it is a build quality issue.

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After a year of use, my back and home menus squeek when used. Not bad but it is a build quality issue.
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After slightly more than a year of use (like +a week or two), none of my buttons squeak.

DKMikey said:
Stainless steel with a soft touch finish (no plastic). Hard buttons instead of soft, and a track pad. The headphone and lock button are also in a much nicer and more natural place than the SGS. Trackpad isn't that useful though.
However, this does make it heavier than the SGS.
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ah, but it is useful in recovery
if you've ever tried flashing a rom on a phone without trackpad, you'd know what i mean lol

saranhai said:
ah, but it is useful in recovery
if you've ever tried flashing a rom on a phone without trackpad, you'd know what i mean lol
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lol yes its very convenient, had an HD2 and it annoyed the hell out of me when flashing things

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lol yes its very convenient, had an HD2 and it annoyed the hell out of me when flashing things
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The MT4G has a touch recovery now.... So all that scrolling or volume pressing is a thing of the past!!!

My wife and I have both had the MyTouch 4g since Nov 2010 (rooted since July 2011) and I feel it was one of the best devices (along with the Evo 4g) up until these dual-core beasts like the HTC Amaze 4g started rolling out. But as far as single core cpus go, I wouldn't trade my phone for any other. I run CM7.1 currently and it's blazing fast, extremely stable, very customizable, and as smooth as you want it to be. I would strongly recommend the device and CM7.1.
Hope this helps

Lesiroth said:
So you guys think it's worth the switch from my SGS? Has anyone used both phones to compare?
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I bought the Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant) from T-Mobile the first week or two when it came out, it replaced a G1. I used that phone up until a couple weeks ago, when I decided to sell it and use the money to buy a MT4G.
I was running CM 7.1 on the Vibrant and I was pretty unhappy with it. There were some pretty significant issues and they dropped official support for the device. Like you said, it's not CM's fault. For the Vibrant, Samsung/T-Mobile never released any kind of Gingerbread update. However, I was happier with CM 7.1 on the Vibrant than I was with the stock ROM, or any other ROMs that I had tried.
Considering that used Vibrants and MT4Gs were selling for about the same price on eBay/Craigslist, I jumped at the chance to get the MT4G. The MT4G is a little bit bigger, it weighs a little bit more, and the screen isn't quite as nice as it was on the Vibrant. However, CM 7.1 runs better, the GPS performance is better, battery usage seems to be less, and there's 256MB more of RAM for you to use.