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Been looking around alot for my first ANDROID device and thinking about getting the N1 but it seems the device has lotta issues.muti-touch problems,sms mms automatic deletion etc.....what do u guys think should i get it or not.if i flash the DESIRE rom will it fix all the issues the NEXUS has?thanks
I really like mine but if you are on the fence I would suggest waiting for something better. The OLED screen, while offering great contrast in doors, has serious visibility issues out doors. Also the cheap touch sensor really does suck. I have to use difficult controller layouts in game emulators because the phone has trouble recognizing dual touches on the same axis.
If it wasnt for those two issues i would totally tell you to jump on board. But i think you should wait for something similar with a better touch sensor and an LCD or Super AMOLED.
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yea it would be pain to play multi-touch games if the multi-touch actually doesnt work well.i did checked few videos of the nexus one reviews and cons,overall its a good phone but maybe i shouldn't give google the $530 unless they fix all the bugs.but what if i FLASH the DESIRE rom will it improve anything on the N1?
There is also the hardware problem with the 3G radio design(search youtube: Nexus 3G Problem)
GHOST99K said:
Been looking around alot for my first ANDROID device and thinking about getting the N1 but it seems the device has lotta issues.muti-touch problems,sms mms automatic deletion etc.....what do u guys think should i get it or not.if i flash the DESIRE rom will it fix all the issues the NEXUS has?thanks
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Yeah it has some minor issues, but the only one that actually bothers me is the crazy screen problem (which they promised to fix in 2.2), where you gotta turn the screen off and on to fix it. Which isn't a huge deal anyway.
If you're on verizon, and don't mind the design of Incredible, get that one. If not, then I say pick N1/Desire, they are pretty much the same (I prefer N1 because of the design and noise-cancelling mics).
Otherwise, doesn't matter which device you get, as long as it's android... this OS is freaking amazing, I swear.
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There is also the hardware problem with the 3G radio design(search youtube: Nexus 3G Problem)
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There is no 3G problem with new N1s, it's been confirmed many times over.
love my N1 but the incred may be worth getting.. only 2 days away. I just don't like sense but since you are thinking of doing the desire rom then you must want sense and the incred is better than the desire in a few small ways.
also if you have time don't rule out the 4g evo... on sprint and verizon summer so the rumors have it.
I went with N1 because you get the android OS updates months before anyone else because it's 100% stock.
thanks to all of u but UNFORTUNATELY im with US t-mobile so i have done all my research of upcoming gsm ANDROID for this year but nothing stands out but the nexus one.i have checked if the INCREDIBLE or the EVO was WORLDPHONE(cdma service with GSM sim slot like the touch pro 2 in sprint)but officially they not.its really sad for us gsm carrier users.so i guess i might take a chance at N1 because its better than the current phone im using(hd2).
@GHOST99K
I think it would be better to wait for Google I/O. That's just 3 weeks from now and many things could change then
thanx im gonna wait another month and c whats up with google.
i really want the N1 but i love a good qwerty. wish Tmobile would get the Milestone isnt Motorola suppose to be working on the "N2 with a qwerty?" this would make me very happy.
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i love my N1, but i wouldn't rule out the incredible, if you are looking at phones. and, if you can hold out, the evo should be a rockstar.
the incredible does have a few hardware one-ups on the N1. i have never had a problem with my screen only being dual touch, because i don't game on it. the camera is supposedly better on the incredible too. otherwise, they're essentially the same phone. and, because i'm rooted with unlocked bootloader, i am able to put the desire's (basically the same as incredible) ROM on it. i don't care for sense though. i don't know that the unlock methods for the N1 will work on the incredible, which may mean that you are stuck with sense on that phone, like it or not.
which may mean that you are stuck with sense on that phone, like it or not.
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You can easily switch to the default android home on a stock sense ROM. All you have to do is go to sense in applications and clear defaults.
you guys make me think I should return my N1 .....
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damn I try not to think how much I spent on it though, ridiculous...but at least it is not on a contract
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You can easily switch to the default android home on a stock sense ROM. All you have to do is go to sense in applications and clear defaults.
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Not on 2.1 sense thats stock. Thats only on flashed roms. I couldnt do it on my Incredible sooo...
That's interesting. I was able to do it with my hero. I am also able to do it with the fresh ROM, but Launcher2 could have been added and not included in the leaked Sprint ROM. I believe it was mentioned that the vanilla lock screen was in the leaked ROM, but broken. Since I do not plan on reverting to the sprint ROM, I will have to rely on some very patient person to let us know if this is true for the Hero too. Although Launcher2 runs so slow I could only imagine using it on an overclocked Hero.
I just finally dumped Big Red and came over to AT&T (combined contracts with my wife). I'm going from the HTC Incredible and purchased the Sammy Captivate. I was very active back in the Dinc forum, and would consider myself "Advanced" - I did some development, but wasn't yet at the level of ROM Cooking.
I got over here to the Captivate - I'm confused as hell. I've followed my own advice and read forum after forum after forum before posting anything - the Cappy just seems like Greek to me.
Here's what I'm picking up:
1. GPS is spotty, but not for everyone. Mine has always been dead on, but then again I'm not a first-adopter of the Galaxy S. Perhaps it was a batch issue?
2. ROMs seem significantly harder to cook for the Cappy. I see a bunch of leaks from the Froyo build, but it looks half-done at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm running Cognition and I love it for day to day use. I had read a bit online about the lag issues, but I didn't imagine they would be *this* prominent even after rooting and removing bloatware.
That's about it, really. I'm checking back in the forums every day. I'm loving the hardware on this phone - the screen is fantastic, and when the Cappy is fast it's FAST. But I've gotta admit I'm fairly dissapointed thus far with some of the User Experience pieces. The Samsung overlay has some nice attributes (the swiping in Contacts is great, for one), but there are other bits that are wholly frustrating about this phone (WHY would they make the buttons at the bottom time out before the screen, forcing you to touch the screen to get the buttons lit up again??).
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
I must apologize, this has turned from a general "how do you do" to a vent-fest. I'd love to hear from any experienced and new users alike. Thanks!
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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I haven't had any problems with Wifi and use WPA. I can see all of my networks (which are G, not N).
The button thing is kind of annoying, so I agree with you there. My GPS has been hit or miss, but I bought this phone used, so I'm not sure if it was a first batch model or not.
There's not much in the way of ROMs. There's stock and leaks, then there's Cognition and Eugene's, and that's about it. All of those are based on a leak or stock build, so they'll usually contain the same problems as the stock/leak build.
We're supposed to be getting a CyanogenMOD ROM sometime, or at least be able to port it...but I'm sure they can't do anything until Samsung releases the source for Froyo.
Anoter HTC convert here, but I came from the Pure.
GPS is definitely an issue. Mine improved with the OTA update to JH7. Its still not as accurate at highway speeds as the HTC.
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
The lag on the galaxy s phones is the result of samsung using rfs file system - rfs has a much slower input/output read/write than ext* file systems generally found on linux distros. This is the lag that is being refereed to in the lag fixes.
so as long as samsung continues to put out official roms with rfs file system there will always be an opportunity for a "lag fix" with ext2 (i.e. ryanza's OCLF) or ext4 (i.e. voodoo).
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GPS is hit or miss, but on the FroYo leak it has gotten much better, unfortunately Samsung released the phones with brand new hardware and apparently didn't test...
The lag is as mentioned another Samsung fubar along the lines of using an inferior file system.
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
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I've done a lot of research, and I alluded to that point in my post. Survey the *American* market and empirically you will see that of the slate Android phones, most have the buttons in the order Home, Menu, Back, Search. And I would argue that it has everything to do with Samsung - unless you're implying that someone else designed the layout of the buttons on their device. After all, they are the reason the European variant of the i9000 has three buttons like the X10, correct?
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Funny.
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Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
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Thanks, dayv. That's a good explanation and gives me some idea of where to go from here.
As for an update, turns out the WiFi issues were strictly hardware. After putting in a bridge with my FiOS router and still not getting any improvement, I took it back to Best Buy and swapped it out. Connected the second I got home. Unfortunately, the touch buttons were totally borked and I had to do a battery pull three times in 20 minutes because apparently the buttons would "touch themselves when they thought of me." In other words, you could see the buttons flash on and off, feel the haptic go crazy, and all kinds of strange stuff on the screen. Yet another swapout and I'm good to go.
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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I imagine we can also add to this that the Captivate has only been out for not quite 3 months if I recall correctly. So between the newness and people holding their breath for Froyo I could understand people's hesitancy to invest a lot of time and energy in making a soon to be outdated ROM.
came from a tilt2 which is/was? still trying to develop android..it was pretty good but wow i can never go back to windows phone after that mess. freggin love this captivate thou...when it doesnt break lol. ive never had a phone that i seem to get ALL the known issues with and still decide to stick with getting a new one instead. I miss sense somedays but overall i still am willing to stick with a less "bogged down" OS that i can practically do the same with. if i can make the phone do what i need faster then screw the pretty screen gadgets lol
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HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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I'm sorry but I to came from the htc aria, awesome little phone. I bought the aria because I thought the sense ui was pretty awesome. After using Cyanogen mods on the aria and playing with other launchers and now playing with tw launcher, sorry but sense ui is crap and for noobs . I got over the whole sense ui about a week of owning the aria and wasn't able to use it after adw and launcher pro.
Sorry had to post it. I just don't feel you can use an androids phone ui to bash another phone. I have only seen a few who use any androids phone stock ui any way and I'm one of them and as basic as it is it still makes sense ui look a babies toy.
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hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Not a chance lol the aria is awesome for its size but doesn't come close to the captivate , that's just my imo though. Only problem I have had with captivate is gps and I really don't use gps, so not that big of deal. The aria, like I said awesome for its size, just has to small of processor to do what the captivate can do. Most things lag on the aria games and movies almost un playable. I love my captivate.
I had bought an iphone4 for my wife to replace her old iphone. Well long story short , I turned a "i will not use anything else but iphone ! " the iphone 4 went back two weeks of having it cause of to many problems to we booth own captivates now and shes sold.
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besides the gps.... i am very satisfied. here is why.....
I woke up this morning and opened allshare to stream music from my synology diskstation. Got in the car and loaded up bluetooth to my moto speakerphone/radio transmitter. Put my captivate in my proclipusa mount and Loaded up pandora to stream to my car stereo... Loaded up the navigation for testing purposes and was on my way...
Both worked without issue on the commute in.. rocking to guerrillla radio and limp bizkit. Got some tweets and emails... and the phone took it like... IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!!!
My blackberry 9700 would have exploded and for sure the "r" key would have flew straight into my forehead... where then people would ask me why i have an R indented in my head... is it for Retard?
I rate the phone 95% out of 100%. If you really have that much to complain about then you will never be happy with any phone.....
p.s. - for people who have captivates that reboot or shutoff, that has to be a defect and you need to get it replaced. My phone has never rebooted or shutoff by itself.
p.s.s. Gps isn't great... but the phone does everything else i need really well.
rant over.
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I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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That's an interesting question. The aria costs a lot less than the captivate. As far as hardware goes, the captivate is superior: 16 GB RAM, the screen is awesome, the speaker is better (ringtones sound nicer) and the quality of phone calls, at least for me, is a lot better than the aria. Oh and the camera is LOT better on the captivate. I haven't had issues with the GPS (the aria locked on a little faster, but captivate performs well). The issues with wireless for me are really frustrating, but others don't seem to have an issue (wireless sometimes works, sometimes doesn't even though it's connected, I have no idea why).
Based on my experience, I'd rather have the captivate. It definitely takes more tweaking than the aria but in the 1 week I've had it, I think I got everything worked out. I definitely liked the sense UI and email client on the aria, but I can live with the UI and stuff on the captivate considering how much better the hardware is.
If anyone has any idea about how to fix wireless, I'd really appreciate it.
Yeah I'm not gonna lie, we really don't have much of choice on at&t . To me we only have two choices right now Aria or captivate. If at&t got a htc equivalent to the captivate then I would have a hard choice .
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Thanks for the tip! I've never met a ROM that I wouldn't reflash if something else came along. I will try it out later tonight. Do you happen to know if the Twiz mods for custom fonts will flash ok?
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I just switched over to a G2X Saturday from a Cliq with CM7 (Before that, J_Rodds 1.6, and Motoruler3) I have been reading about all these bugs with the G2X and I am sure that many of them will be fixed by LG eventually. My biggest problem with my handset is the data and phone reception. Now I have to use wifi calling from my house where I have never had any problem in the past. My battery life is not the best either. What I would like to know is if these problems will be fixed with the new roms that will be coming out? I am seriously considering returning the G2X and waiting on the HTC Sensation, however I really prefer the smaller 4 inch screen over the 4.3 so I would like to stick with this phone if I know all these issues will eventually be gone. I certainly was able to do all kinds of things on the Cliq I would have thought imposable. I appreciate anyones feedback.
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I just switched over to a G2X Saturday from a Cliq with CM7 (Before that, J_Rodds 1.6, and Motoruler3) I have been reading about all these bugs with the G2X and I am sure that many of them will be fixed by LG eventually. My biggest problem with my handset is the data and phone reception. Now I have to use wifi calling from my house where I have never had any problem in the past. My battery life is not the best either. What I would like to know is if these problems will be fixed with the new roms that will be coming out? I am seriously considering returning the G2X and waiting on the HTC Sensation, however I really prefer the smaller 4 inch screen over the 4.3 so I would like to stick with this phone if I know all these issues will eventually be gone. I certainly was able to do all kinds of things on the Cliq I would have thought imposable. I appreciate anyones feedback.
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I don't want to make promises for them, but the (minor) issues are mostly software based. CM uses very little from the specific device software outside of drivers and baseband, etc., so yes, I think you'll see a lot of improvement.
I must be a lucky one or something I havn't had any of these issues that are coming up the phone has been great so far. Even the screen bleed on mine is super minimal and can't really be noticed. I'm guessing alot of the bugs will be cleared up by CM7 or the official update.
if you wait for the sensation, you'll be at the mercy of the carriers for support. good luck with that. i've read that cyan won't be supporting htc and their locked bootloaders. so you'll be waiting for carrier support or on another dev who is willing to hack at it.
It sounds like Im gonna have to stick it out for the 2 weeks I have. Sounds like in that time all these bugs should be fixed one way or another. My main issue is with the reception. Is that something that can be fixed with an update of with a custom rom or am I stuck with what I have in the phone now??
What bugs?
My main bug is the cellular reception and data. I am fortunate not to have any of the other bugs Im seeing posted. (knock on wood)
Srry for the cheesy title, but it's all i can think of atm.
I'm new to the Android world (Sensation 4G TMOUS being my first phone; owned for about a month) - using it on ROGERS on 2G atm until i can switch to an appropriate AWS carrier.
So anyways, my phone's rooted and has the Android Revolution HD 1.1.7 ROM flashed, but despite this, it's suffering from occasional lag and has some other certain issues such as it will randomly hang and i have to do a hard reset (battery removal) for it to function again... this is getting really frustrating because of how random the issue is. I tried the no-sense script, but that still hangs as well. Could this have to do with the kernels or something? I flashed the right radio for 1.1.7, but am not entirely sure what part the kernel plays and how it affects things.
It also at times when put on standby, fails to power on (rarely but it does occur); as in when i press the power button, the 4 buttons at the bottom light up, but there's nothing on the display... followed by them staying on for a few seconds before turning off again.
Just this morning (for the first time), when i unplugged the phone from the charger, it was burning hot.. and by hot i don't mean warm, but actually uncomfortable to hold - had to do a hard reset for it function again after which it gradually cooled down.
Another thing i wasn't too sure about is "trace". How come i can use trace in the "messages" app, but not in the browser/facebook etc. What's up with that ?
It's really frustrating that i'm stuck with the catastrophe that is lag.. once again (coming from a Nokia N95) and honestly at times i feel really disappointed in the decision i made when choosing a new phone.. it seems. I mean not only does the competition beat us in benchies/day-to-day tasks, but this horrid lag issue is really taking the Sensation right outta the contest.
I've contemplated creating a new thread about this, but wasn't sure because a lot of these issues have been discussed, but i had not heard of this dead-on-standby issue plus the fact that i sorta wanted to rant a little bit and thought instead of flooding the forum with multiple threads, why not make one big one. In any case i apologize if this is frustrating for anyone, but all i'm looking for is some help. Thank you.
It looks like these are the issues with newest ARHD. For speed try InsertCoin 2.3.4 (or RCMIX 2.3.4, they're basically the same). Probably the fastest Sense ROM
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The problems you have, have been mentioned many times in the ARHD thread. It's a kernel issue. Try flashing another kernel like the unity kernel.
Thing is i'm really contemplating exchanging the phone for another (Galaxy SII preferably), but i'm not sure if this lag issue and other minor hiccups are gonna be a regular occurence or not.
If i'm going to sell it.. i have to sell it now when it has some sort of value in the market and not say in a few months by when perhaps cyanogenmod is already out and the price of the phone has dropped.
What would you guys do ?
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Thing is i'm really contemplating exchanging the phone for another (Galaxy SII preferably), but i'm not sure if this lag issue and other minor hiccups are gonna be a regular occurence or not.
If i'm going to sell it.. i have to sell it now when it has some sort of value in the market and not say in a few months by when perhaps cyanogenmod is already out and the price of the phone has dropped.
What would you guys do ?
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You want to exchange the phone because of an issue with CUSTOM Rom/Kernel (except the lag, it also happens on stock). At least try stock/other Rom/kernel before that.
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Download the latest ARHD 1.1.8 and many of these issues should be over.
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You want to exchange the phone because of an issue with CUSTOM Rom/Kernel (except the lag, it also happens on stock). At least try stock/other Rom/kernel before that.
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Stock is worse..
@DiZzle.
Yea i'll give that a try. Thanks.
I had similar issues and went back to stock ROM with ADW launcher. I tried various kernels etc. but gave up. 1.1.8 might be better, can't comment on it though. I think that 1.1.8 was going to revert to stock kernel btw. I also used a ROM cleaner to remove a lot of bloatware.
I'm just waiting for CM7 on my Sensation.
Just hang on and follow how fast the custom rom scene is evolving right now.
I guess for kernel issues we gotta wait until there's a proper kernel source available
Hi all,
I need a bit of advice. My wife and I have had the Captivate since this time last year. We came over from the iPhone 3G to the Captivate and loved the amount of tweaking you could do. From the beginning, I went through 4 phones in the first month with the random shut down issue, but my Wife's was fine for the first six months she had it. She is on her second Captivate now and is having problem after problem. Alarms not going off, random shut downs, wi-fi not turning on/off, phone won't dial a number and won't hang up when you try to end the call, phone takes for ever to start up on a reboot, drops network and won't reconnect without re-starting and so on. Needless to say she is pretty frustrated with it and wants to get something different and is leaning back to the iPhone. I am having some issues with mine all similar to what she is having, but not nearly as often. We are both running the stock Froyo, but rooted.
I have a few questions:
1. Would you suspect this to be a problem with the hardware or something maybe a ROM could fix? If a ROM could fix it, any suggestions for a reliable ROM? (I've flashed ROM's in the past to mess around, but haven't kept up with them in over a year.)
2. Is this a common problem with Android (i.e. not reliable)?
3. If it isn't a common problem of Android not being reliable, what other new Android phones from AT&T are good.
Sorry for all of the questions, and thanks for any input.
Dave
I've been on custom ROMs for a long time now, and I've noticed that they are often faster, have better battery life and depending on the ROM you choose, can be more reliable than stock. I'd give it a try, since worst case, you can go back to stock or trade the phone in anyway.
I'm currently using the Illuminance ROM and it is very good. Pretty reliable, fast and excellent battery life.
Other older roms that I've used are Pinnacle and Cognition. All 3 of these offer a smooth stock experience that's not too flashy with radical themes or anything.
Good luck!
1. ask yourself this questions do u like tweaking stuff, if so go with android. else apple or windows
2. i have captivate for about 15 months now, i have never had random shutdown issues, so random shutdown could be mostly software related. I'm running cyanogen7 and its like new phone altogether. pure android experience
3. new android phones that are coming out are much stable than the older phones, bcoz phones like captivate have been rushed to market to survive the Apples rally.
if u want pure android experience go the Galaxy nexus (the latest android from Google). with google phones u can be assured that your os will upgraded as soon as Google releases latest OS. i have heard pretty good reviews about Ice Cream sandwich
What's Froyo?
A clean install of a hot new ROM will give it new life. It shouldn't be unstable though. Maybe it's all the bloatware and apps installed or some files got corrupted. Backup first but try not to reinstall as much as possible if you go with a new ROM. No system data should be restored on a different version anyway.
If your due an upgrade do so and do some research on new phones as far as fixing problems the cappys always have had minor issues a new rom with a clean install works cm7 or cognition
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Cm7's battery life is garbage. The cm team themselves will admit that. It doesn't contain the proper hardware drivers from Samsung. you guys might want to mention that before suggesting that to a noob...
op Sounds those problems sound all software related. I would flash a leaked gingerbread stock firmware as a baseline, then if all is good you could stick with that or flash a custom gingerbread ROM over that if you wanted a more tweaked experience.
Agree with what the others have said... try upgrading to a Gingerbread ROM. There are several out there, most all of the JVT ones are very mature and stable. The latest KK4 ones are pretty nice as well but just being released so maybe not the best 1st choice.
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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rflnc1 said:
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I have to say, the GB roms lack of stability is directly related to the lack of source code for the captivate gingerbread rom.
If you are looking for a stable Froyo experience go with Andromeda3. Ive been on it for months now and really have enjoyed it.
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
If you like the stock GB ROM, you'll love Illuminance 3.0--very fast, great battery life, and smooth.
Or try pinnacle 1.3 close to stock, fast, and great battery life.
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Agreed about Pinnacle--very reliable and a favorite of many.
You might also want to give a try with cyanogenmod 7, I liked it more than other roms. But it may depend on your choice. Thats the beauty of android, you have choices and most of them won't let you down.
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dbs179 said:
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Great, happy you've found your answer.