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I just finally dumped Big Red and came over to AT&T (combined contracts with my wife). I'm going from the HTC Incredible and purchased the Sammy Captivate. I was very active back in the Dinc forum, and would consider myself "Advanced" - I did some development, but wasn't yet at the level of ROM Cooking.
I got over here to the Captivate - I'm confused as hell. I've followed my own advice and read forum after forum after forum before posting anything - the Cappy just seems like Greek to me.
Here's what I'm picking up:
1. GPS is spotty, but not for everyone. Mine has always been dead on, but then again I'm not a first-adopter of the Galaxy S. Perhaps it was a batch issue?
2. ROMs seem significantly harder to cook for the Cappy. I see a bunch of leaks from the Froyo build, but it looks half-done at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm running Cognition and I love it for day to day use. I had read a bit online about the lag issues, but I didn't imagine they would be *this* prominent even after rooting and removing bloatware.
That's about it, really. I'm checking back in the forums every day. I'm loving the hardware on this phone - the screen is fantastic, and when the Cappy is fast it's FAST. But I've gotta admit I'm fairly dissapointed thus far with some of the User Experience pieces. The Samsung overlay has some nice attributes (the swiping in Contacts is great, for one), but there are other bits that are wholly frustrating about this phone (WHY would they make the buttons at the bottom time out before the screen, forcing you to touch the screen to get the buttons lit up again??).
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
I must apologize, this has turned from a general "how do you do" to a vent-fest. I'd love to hear from any experienced and new users alike. Thanks!
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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I haven't had any problems with Wifi and use WPA. I can see all of my networks (which are G, not N).
The button thing is kind of annoying, so I agree with you there. My GPS has been hit or miss, but I bought this phone used, so I'm not sure if it was a first batch model or not.
There's not much in the way of ROMs. There's stock and leaks, then there's Cognition and Eugene's, and that's about it. All of those are based on a leak or stock build, so they'll usually contain the same problems as the stock/leak build.
We're supposed to be getting a CyanogenMOD ROM sometime, or at least be able to port it...but I'm sure they can't do anything until Samsung releases the source for Froyo.
Anoter HTC convert here, but I came from the Pure.
GPS is definitely an issue. Mine improved with the OTA update to JH7. Its still not as accurate at highway speeds as the HTC.
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
vbhines said:
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
The lag on the galaxy s phones is the result of samsung using rfs file system - rfs has a much slower input/output read/write than ext* file systems generally found on linux distros. This is the lag that is being refereed to in the lag fixes.
so as long as samsung continues to put out official roms with rfs file system there will always be an opportunity for a "lag fix" with ext2 (i.e. ryanza's OCLF) or ext4 (i.e. voodoo).
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GPS is hit or miss, but on the FroYo leak it has gotten much better, unfortunately Samsung released the phones with brand new hardware and apparently didn't test...
The lag is as mentioned another Samsung fubar along the lines of using an inferior file system.
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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MikeyMike01 said:
That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
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I've done a lot of research, and I alluded to that point in my post. Survey the *American* market and empirically you will see that of the slate Android phones, most have the buttons in the order Home, Menu, Back, Search. And I would argue that it has everything to do with Samsung - unless you're implying that someone else designed the layout of the buttons on their device. After all, they are the reason the European variant of the i9000 has three buttons like the X10, correct?
Krad said:
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Funny.
dayv said:
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
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Thanks, dayv. That's a good explanation and gives me some idea of where to go from here.
As for an update, turns out the WiFi issues were strictly hardware. After putting in a bridge with my FiOS router and still not getting any improvement, I took it back to Best Buy and swapped it out. Connected the second I got home. Unfortunately, the touch buttons were totally borked and I had to do a battery pull three times in 20 minutes because apparently the buttons would "touch themselves when they thought of me." In other words, you could see the buttons flash on and off, feel the haptic go crazy, and all kinds of strange stuff on the screen. Yet another swapout and I'm good to go.
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
sdotbrucato said:
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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I imagine we can also add to this that the Captivate has only been out for not quite 3 months if I recall correctly. So between the newness and people holding their breath for Froyo I could understand people's hesitancy to invest a lot of time and energy in making a soon to be outdated ROM.
came from a tilt2 which is/was? still trying to develop android..it was pretty good but wow i can never go back to windows phone after that mess. freggin love this captivate thou...when it doesnt break lol. ive never had a phone that i seem to get ALL the known issues with and still decide to stick with getting a new one instead. I miss sense somedays but overall i still am willing to stick with a less "bogged down" OS that i can practically do the same with. if i can make the phone do what i need faster then screw the pretty screen gadgets lol
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HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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I'm sorry but I to came from the htc aria, awesome little phone. I bought the aria because I thought the sense ui was pretty awesome. After using Cyanogen mods on the aria and playing with other launchers and now playing with tw launcher, sorry but sense ui is crap and for noobs . I got over the whole sense ui about a week of owning the aria and wasn't able to use it after adw and launcher pro.
Sorry had to post it. I just don't feel you can use an androids phone ui to bash another phone. I have only seen a few who use any androids phone stock ui any way and I'm one of them and as basic as it is it still makes sense ui look a babies toy.
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bytemare said:
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Not a chance lol the aria is awesome for its size but doesn't come close to the captivate , that's just my imo though. Only problem I have had with captivate is gps and I really don't use gps, so not that big of deal. The aria, like I said awesome for its size, just has to small of processor to do what the captivate can do. Most things lag on the aria games and movies almost un playable. I love my captivate.
I had bought an iphone4 for my wife to replace her old iphone. Well long story short , I turned a "i will not use anything else but iphone ! " the iphone 4 went back two weeks of having it cause of to many problems to we booth own captivates now and shes sold.
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besides the gps.... i am very satisfied. here is why.....
I woke up this morning and opened allshare to stream music from my synology diskstation. Got in the car and loaded up bluetooth to my moto speakerphone/radio transmitter. Put my captivate in my proclipusa mount and Loaded up pandora to stream to my car stereo... Loaded up the navigation for testing purposes and was on my way...
Both worked without issue on the commute in.. rocking to guerrillla radio and limp bizkit. Got some tweets and emails... and the phone took it like... IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!!!
My blackberry 9700 would have exploded and for sure the "r" key would have flew straight into my forehead... where then people would ask me why i have an R indented in my head... is it for Retard?
I rate the phone 95% out of 100%. If you really have that much to complain about then you will never be happy with any phone.....
p.s. - for people who have captivates that reboot or shutoff, that has to be a defect and you need to get it replaced. My phone has never rebooted or shutoff by itself.
p.s.s. Gps isn't great... but the phone does everything else i need really well.
rant over.
vbhines said:
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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That's an interesting question. The aria costs a lot less than the captivate. As far as hardware goes, the captivate is superior: 16 GB RAM, the screen is awesome, the speaker is better (ringtones sound nicer) and the quality of phone calls, at least for me, is a lot better than the aria. Oh and the camera is LOT better on the captivate. I haven't had issues with the GPS (the aria locked on a little faster, but captivate performs well). The issues with wireless for me are really frustrating, but others don't seem to have an issue (wireless sometimes works, sometimes doesn't even though it's connected, I have no idea why).
Based on my experience, I'd rather have the captivate. It definitely takes more tweaking than the aria but in the 1 week I've had it, I think I got everything worked out. I definitely liked the sense UI and email client on the aria, but I can live with the UI and stuff on the captivate considering how much better the hardware is.
If anyone has any idea about how to fix wireless, I'd really appreciate it.
Yeah I'm not gonna lie, we really don't have much of choice on at&t . To me we only have two choices right now Aria or captivate. If at&t got a htc equivalent to the captivate then I would have a hard choice .
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wmwilker said:
If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Thanks for the tip! I've never met a ROM that I wouldn't reflash if something else came along. I will try it out later tonight. Do you happen to know if the Twiz mods for custom fonts will flash ok?
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
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I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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pokey9000 said:
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
berdo said:
~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
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Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him
Hello,
I am looking to get this device as a gift. I have a good deal on it and will pick it up later today. My question is will a custom ROM fix any reboot issues? I don't want to give a broken gift.
Thanks!
EDIT: I am told the phone doesn't have any reboot issues, but I am asking just in case.
Thats a hard one to call. If its not having any issues you may be getting a good one and if so its a great gift. What I can say is running customs on mine has helped me not shoot it, run it over and then commence to destroying it. If your worried over it and you have time to use it for a few days maybe thats an option as well.
Either way, good luck
Thanks for the response. I already got her an LG Optimus One (bad idea) and she hates LG phones now (it keeps getting stuck in emergency mode) so I am not sure if I should risk another LG failure.
Every G2X is different... Some have the issue, other's don't. If it doesn't have the reboot issue to start off with, then you shouldn't worry about other ROMs.
Anyway to know if it has the issue or not? The seller says it doesn't but I want to make sure.
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Every G2X is different... Some have the issue, other's don't. If it doesn't have the reboot issue to start off with, then you shouldn't worry about other ROMs.
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Even if it doesn't have reboot issues I'd still consider flashing a different rom. For the most part you'll get better battery life, better stability, and more features with a custom rom than with stock.
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DarkAgent said:
Anyway to know if it has the issue or not? The seller says it doesn't but I want to make sure.
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Not really sure other than using it. Mine was weird because I'd have reboots on stock sometimes like once or twice a day, and then other times I could go all day or longer with no issues.
But I've had no issues running custom roms.
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Not really sure other than using it. Mine was weird because I'd have reboots on stock sometimes like once or twice a day, and then other times I could go all day or longer with no issues.
But I've had no issues running custom roms.
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Take a sim card with you, put it in and boot the phone up. Make sure you get signal. Make a test call, send a text message, browse the web. Another poster on here said he bought a G2X from someone only to get home and realize the seller had screwed up something and the phone had no baseband. No baseband = no phone functionality.
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Only rom that has fixed reboot issues with me has been MIUI rom. Not sure why, but I've had it for like two weeks now and nothing yet.
I've tried several others and this is the only one.
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htc2364 said:
Only rom that has fixed reboot issues with me has been MIUI rom. Not sure why, but I've had it for like two weeks now and nothing yet.
I've tried several others and this is the only one.
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Just goes to show everyone's mileage varies. I've used mainly CM7, and Ultimate G2X when i want a froyo rom, and I've had no reboot issues whatsoever with either of them.
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ive had my g2x preloaded with gingerbread when i got it new from tmobiles customer service and it hasnt had one reboot or shut down yet. i do notice some screen leakage but i dont see the big deal about it. its not that bad and u only see it if the screen is all black like using the app "draw!". then turning up the screen to 100% brightness
I haven't heard many issues about reboots running CM7. I think the issue is around the stock OS varieties (some roms are just custom stock roms ie Eagles Blood and Weapon)
Try MIUI and CM7. They both use a completely different Kernel which is where the reboot is caused. My Asus Transformer is a Tegra 2 device and with the wrong kernel (stock) will reboot often. Same applied, the right kernel won't reboot.
MIUI and CM7 both use the CyanogenMod kernel which primarily uses AOSP drivers in the kernel.
Unfortunately your mileage will vary depending on what nightly you are running. Right now I am running the CM7 Nightly from Aug 11th (101 I think?) and I'm actually getting really good battery out of it and it is stable.
Buying a G2x for a GF might borderline being a bad idea. She needs something that just works, and while the G2x will work perfectly under the right conditions, it would require that you would use the phone for a few days to test it before handing it over.
I LOVE the G2x but would have a hard time honestly recommending it for someone who isn't one of us. Like I said, using the right combination of Rom/Kernel the phone is a ROCK and a BEAST but you decide.
One thing that kinda sucks is some apps and games. The LG G2x had a bad start and therefore seems to fall by the way side. Stuff like Skype and some graphical games don't have full support like something a Nexus or Galaxy S has.
Honestly for your GF, I think a Galaxy S 4G would be a great buy, or a Nexus S even. Those are some really mainstream popular phones that will cut down on aggrevation from your GF.
Although most GF's won't be doing anything crazy like that. Just calls, text, facebook, and angry birds.
I love mine and bought it full price new. I also waited around for it and came from a Nexus One, which had support for EVERYTHING. So coming from that to a G2x, having some apps not work without hacking at it or custom tweaks can be annoying, like Netflix has to be downloaded and installed outside of the market to work.
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I haven't heard many issues about reboots running CM7. I think the issue is around the stock OS varieties (some roms are just custom stock roms ie Eagles Blood and Weapon)
Try MIUI and CM7. They both use a completely different Kernel which is where the reboot is caused. My Asus Transformer is a Tegra 2 device and with the wrong kernel (stock) will reboot often. Same applied, the right kernel won't reboot.
MIUI and CM7 both use the CyanogenMod kernel which primarily uses AOSP drivers in the kernel.
Unfortunately your mileage will vary depending on what nightly you are running. Right now I am running the CM7 Nightly from Aug 11th (101 I think?) and I'm actually getting really good battery out of it and it is stable.
Buying a G2x for a GF might borderline being a bad idea. She needs something that just works, and while the G2x will work perfectly under the right conditions, it would require that you would use the phone for a few days to test it before handing it over.
I LOVE the G2x but would have a hard time honestly recommending it for someone who isn't one of us. Like I said, using the right combination of Rom/Kernel the phone is a ROCK and a BEAST but you decide.
One thing that kinda sucks is some apps and games. The LG G2x had a bad start and therefore seems to fall by the way side. Stuff like Skype and some graphical games don't have full support like something a Nexus or Galaxy S has.
Honestly for your GF, I think a Galaxy S 4G would be a great buy, or a Nexus S even. Those are some really mainstream popular phones that will cut down on aggrevation from your GF.
Although most GF's won't be doing anything crazy like that. Just calls, text, facebook, and angry birds.
I love mine and bought it full price new. I also waited around for it and came from a Nexus One, which had support for EVERYTHING. So coming from that to a G2x, having some apps not work without hacking at it or custom tweaks can be annoying, like Netflix has to be downloaded and installed outside of the market to work.
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Agree with all of this.
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I've read plenty of crap about the G2x and how terrible it can be. Is there a way to tell apart the bad batches from the good ones? Maybe by IMEI? Baseband? OS version?
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honestly, ive had my G2x since may? and only problem ive ever had(and still have) is slight screen bleed on my top corners.
other than that, i love and enjoy this phone everyday !
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honestly, ive had my G2x since may? and only problem ive ever had(and still have) is slight screen bleed on my top corners.
other than that, i love and enjoy this phone everyday !
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Agreed. I got my phone off of Craigslist and it's even a winner. This is my favorite phone...of all time, maybe. Came from a Vibrant and I won't own another Samsung product for a while.
No good or bad batches. They all come with junk software which is easy fixed with Nvflasher and a custom rom.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
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OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
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We're already getting alpha's of ICS. And since we're all on XDA, we've all had GB since CM7. I don't see any other reason to deter him away from this device.
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We're already getting alpha's of ICS. And since we're all on XDA, we've all had GB since CM7. I don't see any other reason to deter him away from this device.
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What newer device doesn't have an alpha build of ICS yet? Really, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Truth be told you may never get a bug free build of ICS until the actually release comes out, or at least leaks with the things they will need to make it more stable and bug free. That didn't even really happen completely with gingerbread. The phone's fine if you're someone who's already stuck with it, and can't get out of it (for whatever reason). But, I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone to purchase this phone. Fact is, if he intends to have anything even close to a pleasant experience HE WILL HAVE TO HACK HIS PHONE, and even then there aren't any guarantees. There are much better options out there.
Honestly the g2x still outperforms most other newer phones released this year( exnyos sgs2 aside )
With ics confirmed for our devices and both cm team and our brilliant devs here on g2x thread who got hw acceleration and just about everything else working for a beta release, I'd say our g2x's are go for their true potential. Though not quite ahead of its time as the hd2 was.. when ics is released for g2x it will only future proof the device longer since that is the OS meant to keep g2x owners happy they kept it!
Oh and I wouldn't say hacking the g2x is difficult anyways, since its one of the easiest phones to root ever lol
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374011
Though the installation and post-installation is PAIN IN YOUR ASS, it works 100% with nearly zero problem after it's done and it's worth the pain.
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OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
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yep,listen to him. Please read through the forum so that way you are well informed. I WILL NOT EVEN RECOMMEND THIS PHONE TO A DUMB PERSON. LG really screwed all their so called phones up.
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I like this phone, it's only the second smartphone I've ever had and my other was a failberry. I had no experience with android and managed to root and flash a rom with no problems only a couple weeks after getting it. I will agree that this is not the greatest phone out of the box with the software, but if you enjoy flashing roms and trying things out it has some good hardware for the price. Some people enjoy rooting and exploring things, and this is a good phone for them IMO.
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What newer device doesn't have an alpha build of ICS yet? Really, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Truth be told you may never get a bug free build of ICS until the actually release comes out, or at least leaks with the things they will need to make it more stable and bug free. That didn't even really happen completely with gingerbread. The phone's fine if you're someone who's already stuck with it, and can't get out of it (for whatever reason). But, I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone to purchase this phone. Fact is, if he intends to have anything even close to a pleasant experience HE WILL HAVE TO HACK HIS PHONE, and even then there aren't any guarantees. There are much better options out there.
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Then maybe it's user error on your part because the stock GB build was perfectly fine for me. Rooted or not rooted, my phone has never shut down, rebooted, or SOD. It's fine if you don't like the phone, but it would be ignorant to deter someone away from it just because you had a bad experience. There's many that have good experiences with this phone.
Stock ROM is fine.
Custom ROM's based on stock are good.
And CM7 is even better.
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I said Fcuk what people where saying and made the jump.....Or at least will be soon
Has anyone actually used a phone that didnt have a bug? People get upset after spending money a phone that doesnt in turn make them coffee lol, help the phone...so that in return it helps you!
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I said Fcuk what people where saying and made the jump.....Or at least will be soon
Has anyone actually used a phone that didnt have a bug? People get upset after spending money a phone that doesnt in turn make them coffee lol, help the phone...so that in return it helps you!
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I am on my 4th replacement LG-P999 (G2X/WIND Optimus 2X) which I got within the first 15 days of getting the first one and this one has screen bleed at the top corners and light leakage along both edges leaking through the LCD mask. Hardware-wise, if it doesn't have any problems, it is a good phone but the support for it from LG is abysmal, they should be forced out of the cell phone business for that. This phone is only as good as it is because of the hard work done by various developers here and elsewhere who I can't thank enough for that. If you like modding your phone's functions and capabilities, this is probably the best phone for that other than the Optimus 2X P990 model which has the added ability of installing various basebands. When ICS is available with video acceleration, the better camera (no lag), etc., it will significantly improve this phone's operation to what it should have been when it was first sold, it was ahead of Android's ability to take advantage of its hardware. Even if LG does provide ICS for this phone which, although they have promised to provide for the Optimus family of phones such as the 2X, I don't believe it will because it has already moved on in preference to support its 3D phone for which it has released an update to double the phone's 3G/4G speed and other significant improvements. If I were to buy another phone, even though the new Nexus does not have the best hardware, it would be that because it has ICS and will be updated for at least the next 18 months. Second to that would be the new Samsung which is promised to get ICS which I do trust Samsung to do. I will never buy another LG phone or other LG product because LG is so unethical in its business practises. So, you pays your money and takes your chances, just don't bet on a known loser, LG.
Hey, everyone. I just joined these forums because it seems to be a very large network. I am thinking about purchasing a smart phone. I have two options as of now, and those are the G2X and the G2. I don't care if it has a physical keyboard or if its touchscreen, as long as it works fine, I don't care. Specs-wise, I LOVE the G2X, it seems like a nice budget phone. After doing minimal research, I came across countless threads in various forums of G2X users complaining that they were getting overheated batteries, two crashes a day, etc.
These threads were from a while ago, so I was wondering if they found a solution to this.. I know a little about rooting and custom ROM's, and I will probably do that, and get ICS on my G2x/G2. I love the looks of the G2X and how it works, etc. The only problem is I don't want it to crash. I then started looking at the G2.
I like the G2 as well, but its a VERY old phone. It still has 4G, but I am a little concerned about the hinge. The battery life seems great and all as well..
Bottom line is that both phones are very great. I prefer the G2X since it is newer, faster, and has a lot more features. Only problem is that people KEEP saying that it crashes or that LG sucks. I was thinking about picking up a used phone off of Ebay or whatever.. Can you guys tell me what you think? I REALLY want the G2x, but if its gonna crash, I will go with the G2. Like if the solution to the problem is as simple as rooting the phone and installing CM9, I will go for it.. PLEASE TELL ME ASAP!
Thanks in advance.
If the crashes the bugs r worrying u then I suggest u stick with the g2 rather than the g2x......but if u want to tweak our phones and suck every single processing power out of it go for the g2x.....
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Haha, thanks for the fast reply... Well, both for me.. I want to tweak the crap outta it, and the crashes annoy me haha! Is there any known cause/fix for the crashes? I will do anything to fix them because the G2x seems like a GREAT phone!
If you don't car about the ffc or dual core processor, go for the G2. It probably has a fully working ics rom and nearly fully work jb rom simply because it doesn't have a closed source processor like our g2x. When I was looking to buy a used phone off eBay last year, I would have gotten something different if I had known the processor was closed source. Gb roms are fine for me, gets the job done but come on. gb is 2 generations old. We will never have the same stability on ics or jb roms.
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Ughh, haha. I love the specs on the G2X. I agree, the G2 is a very old phone, but that doesn't usually bother me. The dual-core processor is what really gets to me. Seems like a great phone actually, and it may be too late to go for the G2, its very old. I will only be using this phone for 5 months before purchasing a newer one, so G2x or G2? And have you experienced any major crashes? I want to make it as bug-free as possible, so what ROM should I go for? I really appreciate it.
The G2x has a plethora of awesome, stable ROMs based on GB. If you really want ICS, though, it comes with some bugs on our phone. I personally don't think they're a deal breaker, as I use mine as a daily driver on ICS, and I rely on my phone due to my chosen profession. However, it all depends on how much you can put up with. ICS on G2x means no video recording, very unreliable video playback, occasional data drops, and potentially no Bluetooth calling depending on what Baseband you're on.
What is does come with, however, is an amazing set of devs that made this phone bearable.
Hope that helps
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Buy a used phone
Can you pay for a phone outright? Or are you just going for the free options?
Swappa.com has a bunch of phones that would work for t-mobile, and you can switch to the value plans or even monthly(no contract) plans when you bring your own phone.
I wholly endorse buying a phone out of contract, I've done it for years and it's saved me money in the long run(used phones) while still swapping phones every year.
Thanks a lot, rtotheichie. I appreciate your reply. Seems like all of the complaints I have been seeing are from a while ago. According to you, the dev team has now released many stable ROM's to make the phone "bearable." I need video recording and playback, so I would like a ROM that is very stable.. I would rather have no video playback than crashes and reboots. I guess I will go with the G2x then. If all these ROM's really fix the problems, I'm gonna LOVE this phone! Should I go ahead and purchase it on Ebay? Please tell me beforehand. I am in a tight situation and can't be wasting money on junk that doesn't work well..
Thanks!
Go for the g2x its the better of the 2 phones, ics on this phone is gimped due to lack of drivers that lg or nvidia wont release. Still tho our devs have done an outstanding job on these ics roms.
Personally ill only use gb roms since there the most stable, cant go wrong with cm 7.2 stable this phone is still beast!
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I'm new to android and don't know much about custom ROM's, etc.. I would prefer ICS and a stable ROM... I have been hearing that Hellfire Phoenix has very good releases. Still, the main problem prevails.. I don't want crashes/reboots! This is a great phone, and hopefully custom ROM's can take care of the crashing issues! Can anyone else tell me if they still have problems with their G2X?
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I'm new to android and don't know much about custom ROM's, etc.. I would prefer ICS and a stable ROM... I have been hearing that Hellfire Phoenix has very good releases. Still, the main problem prevails.. I don't want crashes/reboots! This is a great phone, and hopefully custom ROM's can take care of the crashing issues! Can anyone else tell me if they still have problems with their G2X?
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g2x for the love of the hardware
G2 for the love of the software
Which one makes you more involved in a phone?
Buy that.
Problem solved.
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With the news of ICS coming, I'd say G2X. There will hopefully be more development whenever it is released. It is great value for the hardware, afterall.
Out of those two..def g2x. hardware wise it still competes with phones coming out this year...now software, that's a whole other ball game. Lg/nividia (cough cough)