Lg has to decide wether or not were getting ics - T-Mobile LG G2x

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/11/follow-up-to-the-lg-g2x-ice-cream-sandwich-story/
(Obviously LG, like all smartphone manufacturers wants to ensure that the user experience on their products is the very best it can be and we hope that LG determines in the long run that an Ice Cream Sandwich is viable for G2x owners.)
THAT^^ MADE ME LAUGH LOL

what made me laugh was them saying it depends on whether the phone can handle it (LOL) and if user use is going to be good cause of it . . .cause they know theyre going to f it up and everyones gonna hate it ..stupid lg y u no smart

icecicle said:
what made me laugh was them saying it depends on whether the phone can handle it (LOL) and if user use is going to be good cause of it . . .cause they know theyre going to f it up and everyones gonna hate it ..stupid lg y u no smart
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yeah i know right. they should take advice of the developers in here and see how the phone works with cm7 2.3.7 lol

I swear I read a while back that we could not get Ice Cream on our phones, that they weren't capable.
Regardless, I really doubt we're getting it. IMO, both TMO and LG have washed their hands of this device.
Too bad, 'cause it's an awesome phone. May take a few tries to get a good one LOL, but when you do, not much out there can beat it.
But if you don't expect any support, you won't be disappointed

Weren't capable? Huh? So the nexus S is going to run a stripped down version of 4.0? I think not ...our phones should be plenty capable and be faster on 4.0 than 2.3 yes? Since there's support for dual core
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Yeah, I must of imagined that. Couldn't find it by searching.
I'd love to see Ice Cream for sure....

I thought it was funny they said LG was testing ICS on both devices. The source hasn't been released by Google yet!

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I thought it was funny they said LG was testing ICS on both devices. The source hasn't been released by Google yet!
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It hasn't been released that we know of. Who's to say that haven't secretly released it to a few cell phone manufacturers for testing?
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of course they have
truckerdewd said:
It hasn't been released that we know of. Who's to say that haven't secretly released it to a few cell phone manufacturers for testing?
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im sure that all the phone manufacturers have had ics for a while. same as companies get windows/mac os whatever before released to the public. they need the hardware to be able to run the software.
i just cant believe all this hype over todays announcement. LG has been shown to lie and mislead and history of promising updates that never came.
now all of a sudden everyone believes this post proves that these phones will get ics. Ill believe it when i see it.

eagle1967 said:
im sure that all the phone manufacturers have had ics for a while. same as companies get windows/mac os whatever before released to the public. they need the hardware to be able to run the software.
i just cant believe all this hype over todays announcement. LG has been shown to lie and mislead and history of promising updates that never came.now all of a sudden everyone believes this post proves that these phones will get ics. Ill believe it when i see it.
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You never got the update? Thats odd. It's available in the dev section.

didnt say g2x
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You never got the update? Thats odd. It's available in the dev section.
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LG in general. and todays post says nothing confirming an update it says the no was not true it says they are planning ics and will let us know.
the previous post was in regards to past phones where they promised gingerbread updates and they never came.
it took 9 months to put gb out for some of the o2x's and thats an OS that was released before the phone.
its possible lg has figured out they could turn around their rep(due to short memories) around if they release ics by december for these 2 phones.
i havent seen anything from lg that shows they have or care.
so ill believe it when i see it.
if you want to make generalizations about the g2x than if the ics update is comparable to the gb we wont see most of the new optimization's since they are in the kernel and they seem to like the froyo kernel too much.
we can hope they learned something from 6 quaters of loss with each quarter increasing that loss. only time will tell.

eagle1967 said:
LG in general. and todays post says nothing confirming an update it says the no was not true it says they are planning ics and will let us know.
the previous post was in regards to past phones where they promised gingerbread updates and they never came.
it took 9 months to put gb out for some of the o2x's and thats an OS that was released before the phone.
its possible lg has figured out they could turn around their rep(due to short memories) around if they release ics by december for these 2 phones.
i havent seen anything from lg that shows they have or care.
so ill believe it when i see it.
if you want to make generalizations about the g2x than if the ics update is comparable to the gb we wont see most of the new optimization's since they are in the kernel and they seem to like the froyo kernel too much.
we can hope they learned something from 6 quaters of loss with each quarter increasing that loss. only time will tell.
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I agree about the kernel. It sure would be nice for nvidia and LG to get together and release the code and drivers so the devs can do their thing. I have not relied on a stock rom in years for any of my phones. The magical devs here at xda do a far better job than any of the manufacturers or cell companies. I'm not real big into lobbying companies to do things, but if they don't release ICS for us, I would hope at the least we could get the drivers.

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I agree about the kernel. It sure would be nice for nvidia and LG to get together and release the code and drivers so the devs can do their thing. I have not relied on a stock rom in years for any of my phones. The magical devs here at xda do a far better job than any of the manufacturers or cell companies. I'm not real big into lobbying companies to do things, but if they don't release ICS for us, I would hope at the least we could get the drivers.
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well said. if they dont care about these devices and they wash their hands at least they could do is releasing these drivers to the dev and costumers will stop complain about their device because our xda devs do better job than lg!

gypsy214 said:
well said. if they dont care about these devices and they wash their hands at least they could do is releasing these drivers to the dev and costumers will stop complain about their device because our xda devs do better job than lg!
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So does Qualcomm typically release source for their drivers? I would think it's all IP that all these companies would want to protect, but I always only see this complaint about NVIDIA.

ok guys there are rumors the lg said on fb the ics isnt coming to the 2x and now their saying that it is coming but they dont mention the g2x!! and all these websites when they talk about the 2x/g2x think are the same witch is not. so they need to be clear on what device their talking about

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ok guys there are rumors the lg said on fb the ics isnt coming to the 2x and now their saying that it is coming but they dont mention the g2x!! and all these websites when they talk about the 2x/g2x think are the same witch is not. so they need to be clear on what device their talking about
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my guess is when they say 2x they mean all versions with the same hardware tegra 2, LG branding, P999/0 so on and so on. If the O2X gets it so will we.

mt3g said:
my guess is when they say 2x they mean all versions with the same hardware tegra 2, LG branding, P999/0 so on and so on. If the O2X gets it so will we.
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Yea, we will have it. By the summer.

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[Rumor] Captivate getting an official 2.3 release after all?

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant
I sure hope so.
behrouz said:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant
I sure hope so.
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Not a chance.
Ditto.
Don't see why we would go to froyo with gingerbread around the corner.
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saint168 said:
Not a chance.
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Of course you don't know that.
And what has kept me rofling with the xda community is their lack of hope. Before the Nexus S was announced, many people speculated it being real. A lot of folks kept saying "No, CEO of Google said no Nexus Two." Which is true, it's not a Nexus Two. It's a Nexus S. They just kept quoting Eric Schmidt and saying "see he said there will be no new device" etc. And it eventually happened.
So I wouldn't be in complete doubt about this. I'm not in high hopes either. But it wouldn't surprise me if Samsung was working on 2.3 this entire time.
And everyone says "it's at&T that is holding it back." Where was it ever even confirmed that at&T received the software from samsung and was "adding" in their bloat? I don't recall EVER seeing that.
It wouldn't make sense to me from a business point of view for Samsung to skip Froyo and push out Gingerbread while releasing a new product for a new client "Nexus", unless they are trying to boost image and make up for the GPS fiasco by doing the unexpected? Do you think Google would have anything to say for when Gingerbread gets released by Samsung?
But aren't there reports of the Epic getting Froyo?
seriously?
expecting samsung to develop gingerbread for the phones already released is kinda like playing russian roulette with a glock and expecting to win...
Really?
Yeah, like twitter is a reputable source for anything...
I could pee.
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seriously?
expecting samsung to develop gingerbread for the phones already released is kinda like playing russian roulette with a glock and expecting to win...
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This made me literally lol!
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Oh boy....another rumor thread.....just what we need!
*grabs popcorn*
cappysw10 said:
Oh boy....another rumor thread.....just what we need!
*grabs popcorn*
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pass the bucket... anyone know how much a large dr pepper is at this showing?
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pass the bucket... anyone know how much a large dr pepper is at this showing?
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That depends on which theatre you're in. If you're in the eastern zones and you want a large, you can't get a Dr. Pepper. We will be selling a super-large Dr. Pepper shortly though. And unlike our previous offerings, it will have all the stuff you wanted in the "large" such as ice...and Dr. Pepper.
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Oh boy....another rumor thread.....just what we need!
*grabs popcorn*
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At least this one is marked as a [Rumor] rather than a "Wouldn't it be great...."
It wouldn't make any sense for the Galaxy S phones jumping from 2.1 to 2.3.
It's obvious that Samsung has already invested time and money on 2.2. For Samsung to now scratch the 2.2 release and go straight to 2.3 would mean they toss all of that work in the bucket. Only a company with a terrible business practices would do something like that... wait, we may be jumping straight to 2.3 after all.
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seriously?
expecting samsung to develop gingerbread for the phones already released is kinda like playing russian roulette with a glock and expecting to win...
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hey! there's still a chance it might jam and not fire .p
skinien said:
It wouldn't make any sense for the Galaxy S phones jumping from 2.1 to 2.3.
It's obvious that Samsung has already invested time and money on 2.2. For Samsung to now scratch the 2.2 release and go straight to 2.3 would mean they toss all of that work in the bucket. Only a company with a terrible business practices would do something like that... wait, we may be jumping straight to 2.3 after all.
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While the odds are slim, i would not completely discount it. There's the possibility that since they have already been working on the new Nexus S they have come further along with 2.3 than 2.2. if i was Samsung, i'd have put more developers and money to toward 2.3 and the NS. If they are similar enough, they could port it and you now.. gain some customer satisfaction and possible repeat business.
Nexus S is pretty much a Galaxy S, so a port might be quite easy.
Also 2.3 seems to be tailored towards power saving for AMOLED screens, with more dark elements, so again it might be easy.
Apple releasing OS updates for iOS for about 2 years has not seemed to hurt their sales much. Yes they are a different situation somewhat, but if Samsung wants to create a brand following with this S brand, they better show some customer loyalty before I show them any loyalty. Thats how Apple earned their following; they deliver at a high level to their customers.
Ugh, how is it that people think just because Gingerbread came out, that all phone companies should be able to release it immediately? I mean, geez, it took months for anyone to put out Froyo. Maybe I'm wrong.....
To my understanding (correct me), Samsung makes phone while Eclair is in the wild. Samsung (obviously) codes phone to work with Eclair. Google releases Froyo. Samsung says "I want that" and has a 2nd team begin coding Froyo. Samsung can't just drop the months of work to produce Eclair and start all over, it would delay the phone. Samsung releases phone. Samsung releases update. Google releases Gingerbread. Samsung COULD start coding Gingerbread. But not until they get their hands on it.
I hate hearing people say "why can't we just skip to 2.3", or whatever. Things take time. I always thought that companies had to wait for Google to release the OS before they could start working on it (or do they get it earlier??). With that being said, how could Gingerbread be right around the corner? Froyo was released in May, Samsung released their update in what....September or Oct (I don't remember and don't wanna look it up).....it took at least 4 months of development. So, if Samsung were to release a Gingerbread update for Galaxy S, it won't happen until what.... April? Then of course it'll take another 2-3 months to reach the Captivate. So now it's July 2011.....and I'll be buying another phone by then. I remember hearing people during the Froyo launch complain that Samsung should just "wait for Gingerbread, it's right around the corner." Yeah, if you consider 6+ months "around the corner."
I mean, I hope I am missing something......I would love to see Samsung keep support fairly current for this phone. But there reaches a time when its no longer feasible.
Sorry if you actually read that.......just annoyed....
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This is what I think would happen, if anything...i see sammy doing the same thing that moto did with the cliq and backflip, integrating parts of 2.3 into 2.2... moto included jit in 2.1 for those users (used to be me) and it kind of quieted the noise
However, it would start some major fires in europe, so it probably won't happen.
And we probably won't get an official gingerbread either.
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Don't think these other companies were ready...

Samsung... LG. They wanted to enter the superphone battle but really had no idea of what they were getting themselves into. The time is over where you can just release a phone and not update it expecting it to just continue to sell.
HTC has been dealing with Android for awhile and definitely understands this concept. Many of their phones are receiving Gingerbread while many others have had announcements about updates. HTC stated a phone wasn't going to be updated then a day later had a change of heart. Days later an announcement was made with details of the update.
Communication and promptness is what is going to make or break these companies. Samsung had a big success with the Galaxy S but no one can deny they failed with updating the device once issues arose.
LG definitely wasn't ready to have the "world's first dual-core" smartphone when they didn't even have a competent engineering team to put out good software. And now that same software team is taking forever to get it right.
Were we too naive trusting LG with a phone of this stature?
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samsung was ready. I mean look at the sgs2 now. Even with not updating like you said they had mad success. Even those who said never again still want the samsung. It also is the least buggiest device on paper out there looking at the forums.
LG yes. they came in like DEEERRRP, but Samsung knew what they were doing. ****, sgs 4g lmaoooo. They may not be cool how they do it, but they know what there doing and make a good product or people wouldnt be wanting a sgs2 so bad.
Only issue they had was gps, and yes poor updates but thats just them saving money and time and sending it out on a whole new device thats the same as the last with the update. lol
LG did it right with the hardware but screwed up the software. It happens. Google has yet to work with LG, which I think is next in line.
Samsung, HTC, Motorola have all had turns with google and learning the ins and outs.
I think the next Nexus phone will be LG... that will bring them up to speed like the rest.
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samsung was ready. I mean look at the sgs2 now.
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I've never had a Samsung Android phone before so I can't speak to the past. But the SGS2 has already received three ROM updates and four camera firmware updates in six weeks. 2.3.4 is expected by the end of the month to address an issue with the Android suspend process chewing up battery. It's for non-branded phones though and once the U.S. carriers get involved all bets are off no matter who manufactured the phone.
G2x was rushed out, to get the "first" tag.... It should have went out with 2.3. Saying that LG can not support the phone is way way way too early. IMO they are trying to make 2.3 release be a complete package, as bug free as reasonably necesssary and possible. Tons of updates are equal to one really solid release, some may prefer lots of updates, while most want a solid release, without the need of tick tacking.
LG is essentially relying on pure Android.....if the G2x is not ready for primetime, then Android itself is not.
Incorrect. LG's abomination is not pure Android. It's been proven that they heavily modified the build and just made it LOOK like stock. So again, it falls on the shoulders of LG to get it right.
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tombaker1 said:
G2x was rushed out...
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Who rushed them?
And how did that work out for them?
Please do not put Samsung in the same league as LG. One year ago I would have said, yea sure, go ahead but not now. They just made the worlds most powerful Android device ever made and there getting involved with the DEV community. They have already released 3 updates for the SGSII which is 3 more than LG issued for the G2X. The SGSII has the least amount of bugs out of the new dual core phones being released.
Samsung just joined HTC at the top. LG just replaced Samsung of the Behold II days.
I might be wrong but why did they come out with naked 2.2 froyo?? im guessing cause they wanted to release the phone as soon as possible because if LG could come out with a dual core phone im sure LG knew that other competitors will be coming out with one soon. Also look at them right now they handed out couple of G2X w/ GB to tmobile employees for testing, why couldn't they do that earlier. I guess they figure "hey lets release the phone w/ 2.2 Froyo and figured it would be "safe"". But i guess that was a big mistake.
As far as im concern my phone works perfectly
in my opinion, yeah LG brought out an unstable phone
but then with the developers roms and kernel, my g2x is the fastest and smoothest phone i've ever experienced with.
im not saying that LG was perfect, but its because of them & developers that i have a phone that rapes any other phone on the market
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I might be wrong but why did they come out with naked 2.2 froyo?? im guessing cause they wanted to release the phone as soon as possible because if LG could come out with a dual core phone im sure LG knew that other competitors will be coming out with one soon. Also look at them right now they handed out couple of G2X w/ GB to tmobile employees for testing, why couldn't they do that earlier. I guess they figure "hey lets release the phone w/ 2.2 Froyo and figured it would be "safe"". But i guess that was a big mistake.
As far as im concern my phone works perfectly
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The Atrix is dual-core on Froyo with the same Tegra SoC and hasn't experienced the issues the G2X has so you can't blame Froyo. The Sensation and SGS2 are dual-core on Gingerbread and don't have similar issues either which would mean dual-core phones can work successfully with any newer Android version. So, anecdotally, all fingers point to LG's software and/or hardware decisions.
The whole reason I bought this phone was because it was a very powerful, stock android phone. It had all the right hardware. I knew that because it was in the G series it woiuld recieve crazy dev support and I was sold when I heard cyannogen would be making a rom for it. Its unlocked and flash happy. Honestly I didnt care then and dont care now what the phone was like when it was released. I bought this to tinker and tinkering I am doing lots of. If I wanted a locked down phone with a laggy UI i would have gone with an HTC or motorola phone. At the time i had no clue HTC would unlock the bootloader but has that even happened yet?
If htc was so prepared they would of unlocked the bootloader, which they didn't.
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If htc was so prepared they would of unlocked the bootloader, which they didn't.
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Huh? How does the reversal of a corporate policy have anything to do with the timing of the release of one of a dozen new phones they'll come out with this year?
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kangxi said:
Incorrect. LG's abomination is not pure Android. It's been proven that they heavily modified the build and just made it LOOK like stock. So again, it falls on the shoulders of LG to get it right.
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What did they do? If there's already a thread you can just point me to it, I'll read through it.
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If anything, it would make more sense to think that HTC is incapable of producing solid tech. And quite honestly, it shows. The G1 was a horrid pieces of hardware [note I said HARDWARE, not software] that only stood out because it was the first Android device. The MyTouch was and is slow and clunky even after official upgrades and custom ROMS , where as the Cliq XT [which at one point was WORST PHONE EVAR!~!! according to most android fanboys] is absolutely blazing on its CM7 port considering its a 600mhz processor. And don't get me started about all of HTC's subpar Winmo phones that plagued T-Mobile for a long time [probably why smartphones didn't take off for a while til the iPhone and Blackberry]
On the other hand, LG is more than capable of producing a high end piece of mobile electronic. Considering they have a long history of computer hardware, also applicances and commercial technology. If you think a SoC based Android phone is complicated, please take a look at service manuals for a modern washer or a 3D HDTV. LG has the assembly lines, the manpower, and the R/D to develop a top class mobile device. And the G2X is easily the best designed phone on the market. I'm sorry so many people have had so many issues, but a fully working G2X is miles ahead of anything offered by HTC or Samsung.
Some of you act as if LG has never made mobile phones, yet they've made some of the best and some of the most innovative devices before the smartphone craze took off.
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...but a fully working G2X is miles ahead of anything offered by HTC or Samsung.
Some of you act as if LG has never made mobile phones, yet they've made some of the best and some of the most innovative devices before the smartphone craze took off.
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The first statement kind of contradicts your claims in the second statement, don't you think?
not sure where thread are
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What did they do? If there's already a thread you can just point me to it, I'll read through it.
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But i can tell you first hand.
this rom is the same rom pretty much as the overseas version which has the lg skin on it. they changed the png files to be stock android and removed the settings additions.
all the hooks and java are in the framework files at least the ones i looked at. have tons of stuff that is not froyo 2.2.2 source.
this explains why both phones have similair problems.
themes cause tons of bootlopps and freezes and reboots if not done correctly. and thats probably the cause of the reboots. since this is a themed rom.
with rommers they put out an update to fix a problem. the companies seem to always try to fix everything before releasing than on top of that they are bringing a whole new os and froyo and GB are quite a bit different. and with tmobile i imagine they told them to get a working gingerbread rom on it and they would buy the phones again.
Hope this helps some.
i think your right
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If anything, it would make more sense to think that HTC is incapable of producing solid tech. And quite honestly, it shows. The G1 was a horrid pieces of hardware [note I said HARDWARE, not software] that only stood out because it was the first Android device. The MyTouch was and is slow and clunky even after official upgrades and custom ROMS , where as the Cliq XT [which at one point was WORST PHONE EVAR!~!! according to most android fanboys] is absolutely blazing on its CM7 port considering its a 600mhz processor. And don't get me started about all of HTC's subpar Winmo phones that plagued T-Mobile for a long time [probably why smartphones didn't take off for a while til the iPhone and Blackberry]
On the other hand, LG is more than capable of producing a high end piece of mobile electronic. Considering they have a long history of computer hardware, also applicances and commercial technology. If you think a SoC based Android phone is complicated, please take a look at service manuals for a modern washer or a 3D HDTV. LG has the assembly lines, the manpower, and the R/D to develop a top class mobile device. And the G2X is easily the best designed phone on the market. I'm sorry so many people have had so many issues, but a fully working G2X is miles ahead of anything offered by HTC or Samsung.
Some of you act as if LG has never made mobile phones, yet they've made some of the best and some of the most innovative devices before the smartphone craze took off.
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and i hope you are hardware wise. it appears its the software that they are having problems with. and although they all continue ot be quite i would bet a company like lg made some changes after this debacle.
lets hope.
BarryH_GEG said:
Who rushed them?
And how did that work out for them?
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Worked great, the got a lot of press for being the first dual core, which is why they rushed.
The sales have been so strong that they ran out of the phones. Negative press is pretty much on this site and similar, which probably reaches about 5% max of the buyers.
They released with 2.2 which gives most a strong belief that 2.3 will solve a ton of issues whether or not I have experienced them.
The G2x will always be part of the against other phones, as part of the benchmarks, where as the Sensation will drop off.
So did it work, I think so.
Looking forward to 2.3....if it introduces problems I will be very upset.

Samsunng Infuse 4g Android 4.0

Am I the only one thinking/hoping that we are getting Ice Cream Sandwich??? I mean it releases on October 11124 and we still don't have gingerbread you know? This is just hopeful thinking... it would be nice to have the absolute latest OS and features though
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Doubt it. We'll probably get Ginger in a week or two and come next year sometime, we'll get icecream.maybe.
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Nah... ATT is just slow.
Thumb rule: We are always a release behind
I don't mean to be pessimistic but that sounds very unlikely.
Maybe in the long run, but even that seems unlikely since new phones are coming out all the time.
Also, Samsung hasn't expressed much love for the Infuse so I doubt they would spend much time making an official ICS ROM for it.
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I don't mean to be pessimistic but that sounds very unlikely.
Maybe in the long run, but even that seems unlikely since new phones are coming out all the time.
Also, Samsung hasn't expressed much love for the Infuse so I doubt they would spend much time making an official ICS ROM for it.
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Yea I see what you're saying but I mean something should click in there heads to update a great phone with great firmware, jus makes it better...
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Chances of ICS on the Infuse - extremely slim.
They're pretty good for the GSII though.
Just hope for a leak.
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Yea I see what you're saying but I mean something should click in there heads to update a great phone with great firmware, jus makes it better...
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It's all about marketing man. Update a phone less, spend money advertising for a better phone (SGSII) and finally get a higher return in $.
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Hell no...
Ex captivate owners will tell you...
People forget that the captivate came with eclair and that gingerbread was released before the captivate even got froyo...
No we will not get ice cream sandwich before gingerbread ...
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I read a lot of places, sorry i do not have the links, that once they have it, it should work with anything, just the software mods itself when it is installed on the phone/tablet/computer (if they make any). It sounds pretty out there, but it is nice to dream. If it would work, then the only updates that the phones would need from the carriers/manufacturers are the modems and kernels.
I would say yes way down the line but the sgs2 is gonna get all the love
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I took the OP as are we gonna see 4.0 before 2.3.....and that answer is a big fat no....
Are we gonna get ICS at some point? Probably ...
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im probably wrong, but im for sure i read somewhere saying that ICS was gunna be an operating system that was like for all android phones? what i mean is that ICS is gunna be one platform for all android phones like iOS for the iphone. idk
Who cares..., am I the only one who thinks that AAAALLLLL the OS's look the freaking Sam with a different number? Its like with my infuse when we went from froyo to "gingerbread" the only real advantage I noticed was a couple of features added, like tthe FRONT facing camera working with Skype, and other silly stuff like that. For instance, MIUI is a whole new beast on its own but speed dial option is eluding me lol
I guess I'm more or less rudely asking for a bonus feature list from ICS.
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The Infuse is the new Optimus, aka poor mans smart phone. I had a customer tell me today he wouldnt give 2 squirts of piss for the Infuse, that pretty much sums it up.
steezinstangl said:
im probably wrong, but im for sure i read somewhere saying that ICS was gunna be an operating system that was like for all android phones? what i mean is that ICS is gunna be one platform for all android phones like iOS for the iphone. idk
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"all" in the generic sense - instead of having 2.x for phones and 3.x for tablets, 4.0 will support both phones and tablets.
However, every device that Android runs on needs customizations specific to the hardware. In many cases, those hardware drivers/libraries are closed source so it's not easy to port them unless the manufacturer does.
"all" in this case means a manufacturer can do a device bringup of 4.x on a tablet or a phone. But someone still needs to do the device bringup, and on a device with lots of closed-source proprietary bits, device bringup can be difficult if not impossible. Look at the state of CM7 for example - it didn't really get off the ground until Rogers released Gingerbread because the Froyo libraries weren't compatible with Gingerbread, and even with the Rogers proprietary bits, some things still don't work.
If it comes to the Infuse it won't be before May. Probably closer to a year from now.
The joys of fragmentation.
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I want icecream but For now I think i am going to stick to dlev rom cause it runs great.
Patience...it's coming
Alot of people don't really understand the process of releasing an OS update for an android. From what I can gather, Google releases the OS to the manufacturers which then tailor it to the individual phones. Then they release it to the providers (AT&T, Sprint etc.) which tailor it to their network and pollute it with bloatware. When they're sure it's somewhat error free, they release it to us.
AT&T for example, is frantically trying to finish their version, but they obviously have an issue or two...or twenty...who knows. They have to finish it, compile it, then do test updates, then test the updates and pray it worked. It takes time. I am far from patient so I already installed the GB 2.3.5 leak and can honestly say it's a major improvement. Bluetooth works better, everything is faster, and those annoying lags whenever you do a level 2 memory clear or detach the USB are fixed. But the leak has its issues, so I'm giving AT&T the benefit of the doubt and waiting to see if the mid October release actually happens. But since they lied and failed to deliver in September, I'm not holding my breath.
As far as ICS is concerned, I doubt AT&T has even had a chance to look at it yet. I would be amazed if we saw it this time next year. But we will get it. LOTS of people have the Infuse so it's not going to be left out or treated like a forgotten step-child like some people claim. It's a great phone with one of the nicest, biggest displays you can get, and it runs anything you throw at it even with its single core processor. What makes the Infuse bad is forcing it to run on AT&T.

PC Mag says were getting ICS

LG Announced today thru PC Mag that we will be getting I've Cream Sandwich for sure. Probably by the end of November. Good news.
Well I dont want to sound mean but, didnt they promise Optimus 2x gingerbread for a year now? So I will believe them when I see it done! Other than that Great news to look foreword to.
BTW, CM will have it out for us before LG will!
jetbruceli said:
CM will have it out for us before LG will!
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Probably with less problems, too.
Remember Gingerbread when it was released... the Dev Community had it released on all phones before any phone manufacture did.
You forget to think that ICS will go through a few revisions before reaching a stable version that will be ported to other phones.
BTW... link?
probably the end of November 2012...lol :-(
"LG Mobile
‎[LG Official Statements on Ice Cream Sandwich OS Update]
LG firmly denies the rumors that claim LG will not be providing the Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) OS update for the LG Optimus 2X. These rumors are NOT true. LG is currently in the process of planning the ICS OS update for the LG Optimus 2X as well as other LG high-end smartphones. Detailed information on the ICS OS update schedule for specific models will be announced, once the ICS OS is publicly released by Google. Please stay tuned for more updates from LG.
Thank you very much."
straight from their fb page! So the p999 will definitely be getting this update, which who knows maybe it will be a better experience than 2.3.3
jetbruceli said:
Well I dont want to sound mean but, didnt they promise Optimus 2x gingerbread for a year now? So I will believe them when I see it done! Other than that Great news to look foreword to.
BTW, CM will have it out for us before LG will!
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ummm..... the O2x gingerbread update is out and available via the LG updater.
Should be out By Summer based on the 2.3.3 for the G2x.
PCMag Article
player911 said:
Remember Gingerbread when it was released... the Dev Community had it released on all phones before any phone manufacture did.
You forget to think that ICS will go through a few revisions before reaching a stable version that will be ported to other phones.
BTW... link?
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395732,00.asp
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395732,00.asp
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Nothing in that particular article about the end of November. Oh well, I believe in cyanogenmod.
wakeboarder8156 said:
"LG Mobile
‎[LG Official Statements on Ice Cream Sandwich OS Update]
LG firmly denies the rumors that claim LG will not be providing the Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) OS update for the LG Optimus 2X. These rumors are NOT true. LG is currently in the process of planning the ICS OS update for the LG Optimus 2X as well as other LG high-end smartphones. Detailed information on the ICS OS update schedule for specific models will be announced, once the ICS OS is publicly released by Google. Please stay tuned for more updates from LG.
Thank you very much."
straight from their fb page! So the p999 will definitely be getting this update, which who knows maybe it will be a better experience than 2.3.3
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Honestly, if LG reads this thread they'll think we don't even care if they release it or not. Come on guys, I for one love the fact that LG is stepping up to the plate to update the phone for us.
Whether it was due to our complaining, the hate posts on their FB page, our forum, Google pressure, or just the social responsibility of LG, it's acceptable by me.
I'm grateful for it and enthused by it. Anyways, back to the fact, it'll probably take them a while to release it, probably by like next April, but it's still an update.
I take back my post on their facebook page now. They seem like they care after all, even if they are slow, it's not like they've been huge players in the mobile industry as far as I know. So let them gain some momentum here.
barqers said:
Honestly, if LG reads this thread they'll think we don't even care if they release it or not. Come on guys, I for one love the fact that LG is stepping up to the plate to update the phone for us.
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Don't worry. LG is not reading this.
who cares?
- If LG does eventually put out an upgrade... it wont be untill Summer if that soon
- It will most likely suck like their GB update did.. ( froyo kernal? cmon )
- Before an official release... you STILL wont have drivers to make the phone function correctly because of NVIDIA
this is why i switched to a SGS2 hercules ....im done with LG and NVIDIA ... G2x had great potential... but i am done and will no longer buy from either company when it comes to phones
It's too bad ATi never made a phone and never will, I would have bought one if they did. Unfortunate thing now is that AMD killed ATi, otherwise it probably could have made a phone that would crush the Tegra 2, just like they do with desktop/laptop GPUs. Anyways, I knew this would happen, apparently I was one of the only people that could spot that the other facebook response from "LG" was a fake :/
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clninja said:
who cares?
- If LG does eventually put out an upgrade... it wont be untill Summer if that soon
- It will most likely suck like their GB update did.. ( froyo kernal? cmon )
- Before an official release... you STILL wont have drivers to make the phone function correctly because of NVIDIA
this is why i switched to a SGS2 hercules ....im done with LG and NVIDIA ... G2x had great potential... but i am done and will no longer buy from either company when it comes to phones
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You obviously never owned a SGS Vibrant.... still running Froyo 2.2 forevermore. Every company does the "shove it out the door and fuggedaboudit shuffle"...
If it used ATI drivers you'd be better off with NV and froyo kernel.
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Actually i did own a vibrant....ditched it for a g2x so i got back 2 back screwed
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clninja said:
Actually i did own a vibrant....ditched it for a g2x so i got back 2 back screwed
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You and me both sir.
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Why stay Here
I don't understand the people who post they are finished with LG and/or the G2x and has had enough. Trade it in for another phone that they say they are happier with, works better than and all that but stay here in the G2x forum to complain. If their new phones are all that much better why aren't they in their NEW forum helping others and such.
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I don't understand the people who post they are finished with LG and/or the G2x and has had enough. Trade it in for another phone that they say they are happier with, works better than and all that but stay here in the G2x forum to complain. If their new phones are all that much better why aren't they in their NEW forum helping others and such.
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LOL True that!

Google's Android Update Alliance Is Already Dead?

Interesting article, in my opinion I think it's true.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397729,00.asp
Wow, that's an excellent article, and it seems to be very true.
Haha I sensed the sarcasm! Ofcourse it's true, what I meant was I should have known this about the vendors and their "promises".
I think that the updates are currently the most problematic thing in Android eco-system. Carriers just don't give a sh*** - have an old phone, come to us and buy one, have a long contract, well that's too bad. I just wish smartphone vendors would release all the drivers for their devices and let the community handle all the updates.
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I think that the updates are currently the most problematic thing in Android eco-system. Carriers just don't give a sh*** - have an old phone, come to us and buy one, have a long contract, well that's too bad. I just wish smartphone vendors would release all the drivers for their devices and let the community handle all the updates.
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Well it is not just the phone manufacturer as they would need to get the OK from others as well. They don't use their own hardware for things like radio, bt, screen ect.
Does this really surprise anyone? The carriers and the manufacturers both make money from abandoning old phones and selling new ones. The only way that Android is going to have a consistant upgrade schedule is if someone who doesn't profit (Google?) makes the ground rules. If the manufacturers want to licence it then they need to follow the rules. If they use the AOSP code then they have to release code under its terms.
people need to call out google and push them to be competent
I'm at the point where I'm just completely Nexus, I dont even want to get near another OEM and their bloat, custom frameworks, etc... Go the way of the Nexus. Its a great thing to do.
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people need to call out google and push them to be competent
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And do what? They have no control over it once they sign the contract and if they don't carriers don't carry the phone. Then it goes the way of the Nexus 1.
Oh come on, things are way better now than ever. Have you seen the near endless list of devices getting ICS?
I still remember when phones never even got an update in their lifetime.
But you can always buy smart and get the updates from the hard core XDA developers who never seem to fail to deliver.
Lars
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wire103 said:
Oh come on, things are way better now than ever. Have you seen the near endless list of devices getting ICS?
I still remember when phones never even got an update in their lifetime.
But you can always buy smart and get the updates from the hard core XDA developers who never seem to fail to deliver.
Lars
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Just because the OEM says it will be releasing it at least in the US it is still the carriers call. Take a look at the inspire. HTC released a new buld for the device but ATT refuses to release one for the inspire
Nexus phones seem to be the way to go.
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zelendel said:
Just because the OEM says it will be releasing it at least in the US it is still the carriers call. Take a look at the inspire. HTC released a new buld for the device but ATT refuses to release one for the inspire
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Can't Americans download open versions like europe?
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Can't Americans download open versions like europe?
Dave
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No the The US versions have some minor diffs that the Euro versions do not. We dont get updates from the OEMs. Carriers control it all. ITs either carrier or custom rom ported for our devices
My phone never got Froyo over the air. It didn't even get a 2.2.1 update. As for GB we had to port it from the i9000 (i have a vibrant).Same with ICS. It really sucks, because batterylife is not as great as it could be. Android will probably never be released to all devices at once and my understanding is that the "GOOGLE" line of phones gets full support for atleast 2 years.
As for now, who wants upgrades should buy Google Nexus phones (not Motorola).
I take my hat off to Sony, they are excellent (but not perfect because of Xperia Play).

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