Hi.
I'm about to flash my first custom ROM and have a few q's before I do it. Im on a SGS2 rooted with the help of Odin and S2root (like superoneklick I guess). I have flashed CWM recovery via Odin and my kernel is called 2.6.35.7 [email protected] # 12. My build number is XWKI4.
First question is if its safe to flash CM7 with above root and kernel (I know that its never completely "safe" to flash anything but you know what I mean =).
Second question is if I should flash through ROM manager or CWM recovery.
Third question is concerning market and gapps. How do I do to be sure of having at least market when Im on CM7.
Cheers!
I would definitely flash the ROM through recovery, I dont really trust ROM manager for that. Do a full wipe before flash. As for GAPPs, you can flash that through ROM manager.
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I know a while back when i installed cm7 on my vibrant i had to do a lot of steps with clrad and flashing kernels one at a time... if i install with "rom manager" do i need to do any other step? does it change the kernel and everything for me already???
All ROMs have Kernels, otherwise they wouldn't work. If you want CM7 you can flash the latest Nightly using Rom Manager and aside from selecting to flash the gapps package too, there's no need to flash anything else.
Custom Kernels can be flashed from Recovery after the fact if you feel the need to try them.
Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!
Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.
Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?
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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
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mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?
So, I am going to do a lot more research prior to rooting, but I had a couple of general questions that I was wondering about, before I begin the steps leading up to rooting.
1) I presume the easiest way for me to root my Thunderbolt is the Revolutionary Root? This will take be through rooting and installing the CW recovery that I need, correct?
2) Right after I root, If I want to install roms/kernels? than I can just get Rom Manager from the android market?
3) Once I install Rom Manager, can I just flash a rom that is compatible with my Thunderbolt? Can I just flash a kernel that is compatible with the Rom?
I suppose where I get a lil lost is the flashing compatibility part. What kernels work with what roms, what roms I can flash... I have read a number of articles, so I suppose what I'm asking is...
Will the process more or less be: Revolutionary Root, Install Rom Manager from market, flash a rom (just the most popular one). Is the Kernel flashing piece important? Do I need to flash a different kernel? Is it easy to tell in Rom Manager which kernel/rom I can use?
Yes use revolutionary to root and install custom recovery (cwr). You can use ROM manager to download custom roms if you want, only roms for your device will show up. Or you can download custom roms from forums, this is the method I prefer.
Just use kernel that comes with the Rom for the time being some developers include a custom kernel and others make modifications to the HTC kernel itself. Kernels are seperated in development section having to do with sense and aosp that is the first way to seperate them. Second would be leak the kernel was based on such as imo test 3.8 was based on newest leak so it works for just about if not all newest sense roms. When in doubt fire up a question in the Rom thread itself and ask what kernels those people are using, find a Rom like BAMF or thunderstick or synergy where the developers or support staff are very active.
Also you will need to flash a new radio right after rooting if you are still using froyo, I am using newest leak but different phone work differently. Once you install the radio VIA Hboot. Reboot phone and remove zip file from root of SD card now place your Rom image on SD card and reboot to recovery and install your new Rom.
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This is good info.. thanks.
Well, I am upgraded to Gingerbread as of VZW's last update and still unrooted and stock.
So, if I were to root (using revolutionary) and install Rom Manager... could I just install something like Cyanogenmod or BAMF right through Rom Manager?
What do you mean by kernel that comes with the Rom? The kernel that is listed to use with the Rom? Or do you mean if I flash BAMF or something popular, just leave whatever kernel I have as is?
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This is good info.. thanks.
Well, I am upgraded to Gingerbread as of VZW's last update and still unrooted and stock.
So, if I were to root (using revolutionary) and install Rom Manager... could I just install something like Cyanogenmod or BAMF right through Rom Manager?
What do you mean by kernel that comes with the Rom? The kernel that is listed to use with the Rom? Or do you mean if I flash BAMF or something popular, just leave whatever kernel I have as is?
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When you flash a rom it flashes the kernel too with whatever one the devs packed with it.
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Okay, clear enough.
So, for someone like myself, just use revolutionary root, install rom manager and play around a lil with flashing roms using rom manager for awhile. I understand that I can install roms from my SD card, but it sounds like at least initially installing roms right from rom manager would be the simplest. I can also not worry about installing a different kernel during this "honeymoon" phase. Just pick the latest version of whatever Rom I want and flash the rom?
After you root you need to install superuser so CWM can function. I have read that some people flash their CWM via hboot after s-off and then go right to recovery to flash the root gaining RUU, then enjoy your root.
Do not flash ROMs right from CWM reboot to recovery clear data/cache and under advanced davlik cache and then install Rom from install from SD and choose zip file and I always store mine in downloads since I download all my roms right to my phone and download md5 checker from market and always check the md5 if it does not match don't think its a mistake redownload and try again.
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Agreed, it is better to install the ROM through recovery instead of installing through ROM manager as sometimes it doesn't work right.
Don't forget to use thank you for all you great answers.
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I hear some people use it some say it doesent work. Does it work? Is it worth installing? Just want to know if its worth my time or not lol
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The problem with ROM manager and the G2x is that the proper method of installing the recovery is is not used. If you install recovery from ROM manager it does install a fake recovery that is basically a use-once recovery. The proper method to install the recovery on the G2x is to use NVFLASH to low level flash it. Once you install the recovery in this method the device is almost unbrickable.
Many functions in ROM manager do not work with the NVFLASH installed recovery so this kinda renders ROM manager useless. I think the only function in ROM Manager that has some merit is the fix permissions, but you can run the same thing faster from CWM recovery that is installed through NVFLASH.
A side benefit to using NVFLASH is that you do not have to root your device to install it since it is a much lower level than the OS. You can install recovery, backup the stock OS, then flash a custom ROM. If you want to go back to stock just restore the backup and use the NVFLASH program to install the stock recovery and you are back to stock for repairs or whatever.
Link to NVFlash: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
I've installed recovery with nvflash but and works great but just wondering cause roms will come with ROM manager installed and I'm just wondering if I'm missing anything I guess by not letting it install its "fake" recovery or if it will mess up my nvflash version?
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I have never tried allowing ROM Manager to install the fake recovery but I do not think that it will be harmful to the NVFLASH recovery.
I believe this because many people use ROM Manager without knowing and post here that they bricked their devices and the stock recovery is always reachable. Also I bought my G2x from craigslist from someone that used ROM Manager and "bricked" the phone. I was able to fix it using the NVFLASH to flash CWM and install CM7.
Some roms (like Bionix) come with Rom Manager because the user can track OTA updates of the Rom they're using, so if the dev releases a new version, the user will get a notification that an update is available for download, if the dev set it up right.
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So I just rooted my Verizon Galaxy S3 and unlocked the bootloader. I flashed Clockworkmod recovery using Rom Manager to update to the latest version. Made a nandroid, installed Titanium Backup, linked it to my Dropbox and uploaded. I downloaded the latest CM10 nightly to flash but the stock android recovery appeared instead of CWM. Found some info that I need to flash a clockwork compatible kernel first. The questions I have are: If I install the latest CM 10 nightly will it automatically install a clockwork compatable kernel? If not, where can I download it from? and if I do need to flash a kernel first can anyone give me detailed instructions how to do this as i'm relatively new to this stuff and don't want to brick my phone. Thanks, any info would help.
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So I just rooted my Verizon Galaxy S3 and unlocked the bootloader. I flashed Clockworkmod recovery using Rom Manager to update to the latest version. Made a nandroid, installed Titanium Backup, linked it to my Dropbox and uploaded. I downloaded the latest CM10 nightly to flash but the stock android recovery appeared instead of CWM. Found some info that I need to flash a clockwork compatible kernel first. The questions I have are: If I install the latest CM 10 nightly will it automatically install a clockwork compatable kernel? If not, where can I download it from? and if I do need to flash a kernel first can anyone give me detailed instructions how to do this as i'm relatively new to this stuff and don't want to brick my phone. Thanks, any info would help.
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Did you unlock your bootloader? for a custom recovery to stick you need to unlock your bootloader. Follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
darkhawk3383 said:
Did you unlock your bootloader? for a custom recovery to stick you need to unlock your bootloader. Follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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I did, had it unlocked and rooted. I guess there was some sort of issue with Rom Manager on the S3. I use it on my Galaxy Nexus and have no issues. I ended up abandoning what I was doing, uninstalling Rom Manager and going a different route. I have no prior experience with Odin but figured out how to install CWM . Downloaded I535vrblk1, flashed CWM, unlocked & rooted again. . Thanks anyway for the reply.
You can reinstall ROM Manager. It is something to do with some of the newer OTA's and the leaks. I have read a few posts in the forums about this in the GS3 and I really can't remember the fix but your recovery not sticking had nothing to do with ROM Manager. I think the fix was when you rebooted to recovery to flash a kernel right away, whether it be KT747, LK, or any of the other. Now that I typed this I'm about 99% sure that was the fix. Like I said above though, it has nothing to do.with ROM Manager, so if you're like me and find a lot of the tools in it handy you should be able to reinstall it. If you have a problem again just flash a kernel.
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