I know a while back when i installed cm7 on my vibrant i had to do a lot of steps with clrad and flashing kernels one at a time... if i install with "rom manager" do i need to do any other step? does it change the kernel and everything for me already???
All ROMs have Kernels, otherwise they wouldn't work. If you want CM7 you can flash the latest Nightly using Rom Manager and aside from selecting to flash the gapps package too, there's no need to flash anything else.
Custom Kernels can be flashed from Recovery after the fact if you feel the need to try them.
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A few questions as this is all new to me.
Do all ROMS require you to flash a new kernal?
Do you flash a kernal the same way as you flash a radio? (PD98IMG File and Hboot?)
I appreciate the input...
ROMS should and typically will come with the recommended kernel, however, some kernels do work that aren't the packaged one. Always be careful when flashing a new one (backup, backup, backup!) because sometime they don't always get along with the ROM you have running.
Also, most of them should be flashable .zips that can be ran through CWM.
At least in my experience with various kernels
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Kernels are included with every rom I have ever tried, and if you want to use a different kernel than the one in the rom, you have to make sure that is compatible. A good rule of thumb is if it a sense based rom (custom user interface that comes stock on the inspire) you have to use a sense based kernel. If it is a ASOP rom (Android Open Source Project, like Cyanogenmod 7, or MUIU) you must use a ASOP kernel. They will specify in the OP. And I have never heard of flashing them through HBOOT, or FASTBOOT. In my experience it is always through CWM recovery, and you flash them just as you would a rom, theme, or anything else. Move the .zip file to the root of your SD, choose install zip from sd card, scroll down to choose zip from sdcard, then choose the file. When it is done hit back and then reboot. Easy Peezy.
Tmullins23 said:
A few questions as this is all new to me.
Do all ROMS require you to flash a new kernal?
Do you flash a kernal the same way as you flash a radio? (PD98IMG File and Hboot?)
I appreciate the input...
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kernal == kernel
Most users will flash kernels through clockwork like a rom. I flash them through fastboot, you can fastboot flash zimage(or boot), or fastboot boot zimage , which lets you boot the kernel before actually writing it, fastboot flashing requires eng s-off, which you probably don't have or need
So, I am going to do a lot more research prior to rooting, but I had a couple of general questions that I was wondering about, before I begin the steps leading up to rooting.
1) I presume the easiest way for me to root my Thunderbolt is the Revolutionary Root? This will take be through rooting and installing the CW recovery that I need, correct?
2) Right after I root, If I want to install roms/kernels? than I can just get Rom Manager from the android market?
3) Once I install Rom Manager, can I just flash a rom that is compatible with my Thunderbolt? Can I just flash a kernel that is compatible with the Rom?
I suppose where I get a lil lost is the flashing compatibility part. What kernels work with what roms, what roms I can flash... I have read a number of articles, so I suppose what I'm asking is...
Will the process more or less be: Revolutionary Root, Install Rom Manager from market, flash a rom (just the most popular one). Is the Kernel flashing piece important? Do I need to flash a different kernel? Is it easy to tell in Rom Manager which kernel/rom I can use?
Yes use revolutionary to root and install custom recovery (cwr). You can use ROM manager to download custom roms if you want, only roms for your device will show up. Or you can download custom roms from forums, this is the method I prefer.
Just use kernel that comes with the Rom for the time being some developers include a custom kernel and others make modifications to the HTC kernel itself. Kernels are seperated in development section having to do with sense and aosp that is the first way to seperate them. Second would be leak the kernel was based on such as imo test 3.8 was based on newest leak so it works for just about if not all newest sense roms. When in doubt fire up a question in the Rom thread itself and ask what kernels those people are using, find a Rom like BAMF or thunderstick or synergy where the developers or support staff are very active.
Also you will need to flash a new radio right after rooting if you are still using froyo, I am using newest leak but different phone work differently. Once you install the radio VIA Hboot. Reboot phone and remove zip file from root of SD card now place your Rom image on SD card and reboot to recovery and install your new Rom.
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This is good info.. thanks.
Well, I am upgraded to Gingerbread as of VZW's last update and still unrooted and stock.
So, if I were to root (using revolutionary) and install Rom Manager... could I just install something like Cyanogenmod or BAMF right through Rom Manager?
What do you mean by kernel that comes with the Rom? The kernel that is listed to use with the Rom? Or do you mean if I flash BAMF or something popular, just leave whatever kernel I have as is?
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This is good info.. thanks.
Well, I am upgraded to Gingerbread as of VZW's last update and still unrooted and stock.
So, if I were to root (using revolutionary) and install Rom Manager... could I just install something like Cyanogenmod or BAMF right through Rom Manager?
What do you mean by kernel that comes with the Rom? The kernel that is listed to use with the Rom? Or do you mean if I flash BAMF or something popular, just leave whatever kernel I have as is?
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When you flash a rom it flashes the kernel too with whatever one the devs packed with it.
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Okay, clear enough.
So, for someone like myself, just use revolutionary root, install rom manager and play around a lil with flashing roms using rom manager for awhile. I understand that I can install roms from my SD card, but it sounds like at least initially installing roms right from rom manager would be the simplest. I can also not worry about installing a different kernel during this "honeymoon" phase. Just pick the latest version of whatever Rom I want and flash the rom?
After you root you need to install superuser so CWM can function. I have read that some people flash their CWM via hboot after s-off and then go right to recovery to flash the root gaining RUU, then enjoy your root.
Do not flash ROMs right from CWM reboot to recovery clear data/cache and under advanced davlik cache and then install Rom from install from SD and choose zip file and I always store mine in downloads since I download all my roms right to my phone and download md5 checker from market and always check the md5 if it does not match don't think its a mistake redownload and try again.
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Agreed, it is better to install the ROM through recovery instead of installing through ROM manager as sometimes it doesn't work right.
Don't forget to use thank you for all you great answers.
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Hi.
I'm about to flash my first custom ROM and have a few q's before I do it. Im on a SGS2 rooted with the help of Odin and S2root (like superoneklick I guess). I have flashed CWM recovery via Odin and my kernel is called 2.6.35.7 [email protected] # 12. My build number is XWKI4.
First question is if its safe to flash CM7 with above root and kernel (I know that its never completely "safe" to flash anything but you know what I mean =).
Second question is if I should flash through ROM manager or CWM recovery.
Third question is concerning market and gapps. How do I do to be sure of having at least market when Im on CM7.
Cheers!
I would definitely flash the ROM through recovery, I dont really trust ROM manager for that. Do a full wipe before flash. As for GAPPs, you can flash that through ROM manager.
I bought a phone that has Cyan 7 on it and im messing around with other Roms which ones are compatible where i can just flash from rom manager? I dont want to mess with Odin and other recoveries.
turn off phone hold volume button down and then power button it should boot to the fastboot screen then you can select recovery
Thanks yea i got that part now i just would like to know which ones can i flash from rom manger? And if i do do i backup and wipe and dalvik everytime? Or just dalvik?
Warning - if you're on CyanogenMod-based roms, you need to stay on that family. This means either CM7 or MIUI. If you want to go to a Samsung rom (i897 or i9000), you'll need to use ODIN to properly repartition your internal SD card.
Ok grt so i can grab the miui from rom manager. Do you know which one i can flash? Do i backup exisiting wipe/cache dalvik everytime i flash?
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Ok grt so i can grab the miui from rom manager. Do you know which one i can flash?
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Much as I'd like to be able to point you in the right direction, I don't use MIUI or Rom Manager myself. I only know the issues with partitioning. Perhaps someone who uses one or both of those pieces of software can help.
Don't use ROM manager. Just download the latest update from the op of the MIUI thread. Installation instructions can also be found there.
What can i flash through Rom manager then other then Cyano 7 nightly which i am on?
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What can i flash through Rom manager then other then Cyano 7 nightly which i am on?
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Warning - if you're on CyanogenMod-based roms, you need to stay on that family. This means either CM7 or MIUI. If you want to go to a Samsung rom (i897 or i9000), you'll need to use ODIN to properly repartition your internal SD card.
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You can flash CM7 based roms or MIUI. If you dont know what that means, you dont need to be flashing. Go read.
My reply should have said I don't use ROM manager. I just dl from the ROM thread.
I believe any rom that is listed in rom manager you can use. they are for your phone. I have 2fastroms,MIuI,Oxygen and Cyanogenmod. I tested everyone of them. I normal flash a rom set it up to the way I want it. then when I get sick f it I back it up. Format everything and install a differant rom. when I want to go back to my old rom. I format everything and do a restore
Sorry if this has already been asked before. If you already have a custom ROM with stock kernel, and now you want to install a custom kernel, would you just boot into custom recovery then flash it on top of the existing ROM just like flashing Gapps? or do you have to wipe the ROM first, flash the kernel then ROM after that? Here's another question. Custom ROMs come with their own kernels, would my custom kernel get overwritten when I upgrade my ROM to a newer version (for example from cm10.1-20130226 to cm10.1-20130309?
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Sorry if this has already been asked before. If you already have a custom ROM with stock kernel, and now you want to install a custom kernel, would you just boot into custom recovery then flash it on top of the existing ROM just like flashing Gapps? or do you have to wipe the ROM first, flash the kernel then ROM after that? Here's another question. Custom ROMs come with their own kernels, would my custom kernel get overwritten when I upgrade my ROM to a newer version (for example from cm10.1-20130226 to cm10.1-20130309?
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Correct just copy the kernel to your sdcard clear cache in recovery and flash away.
I tried your ROM and rebooted twice and still looking good. Hope it'll still survive after the 3rd reboot. However, I notice some delay before the first ring back, probably due to weak signal in my area. I'll try more at different locations in the next few days to see how it goes. I really appreciate your contribution and all coders with TeamChopsticks who have nailed down the root cause of audio loss in the cm10.1 nightlies for skyrocket.
I'm having problem with Carbon ROM. My video doesn't playback I only see purple screen. However taking pictures is fine but both the qualities are low. I already set to HD. I flashed AOKP from toyes and REVOLT they had no problems with the video.
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