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Does rooting keep from OTA updates?

I'm new to Android - my apologies if this is an ignorant question.
If I root my Captivate will I be removing myself from OTA updates?

From what I understand rooting it does not prevent you from getting the OTA updates but if you put a custom ROM on there you will not be able to get the Samsung ROM when they release it - but then again you won't need it. Everything I've read about Samsung so far pretty much indicates that won't be anytime soon - apparently they are terrible at software updates. I don't know that first hand though, this is the first Samsung Smartphone I've owned.
If you rooted just to remove the AT&T bloat then you should have no worries about when they release Froyo.
If I'm wrong someone please correct me!

No, you'll be fine.
Edit: I agree with what the previous poster said.

Awesome, thanks guys. Looks like I'll move forward with a root this weekend. Time to remove some AT&T crapware

also you can always remove root later if its a problem
since you're new to android and this phone, i highly suggest you read the Pimp my captivate pdf provided for in a sticky on this sub forum.

systoxity said:
also you can always remove root later if its a problem
since you're new to android and this phone, i highly suggest you read the Pimp my captivate pdf provided for in a sticky on this sub forum.
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First thing I did when I got home was jump on xda and read through that PDF. It's well put together; thanks for taking the time. I wanted to wait awhile for some others to take the plunge and report before I dove in myself.

JasonCL said:
From what I understand rooting it does not prevent you from getting the OTA updates but if you put a custom ROM on there you will not be able to get the Samsung ROM when they release it - but then again you won't need it. Everything I've read about Samsung so far pretty much indicates that won't be anytime soon - apparently they are terrible at software updates. I don't know that first hand though, this is the first Samsung Smartphone I've owned.
If you rooted just to remove the AT&T bloat then you should have no worries about when they release Froyo.
If I'm wrong someone please correct me!
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I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure there was already a leaked copy of the Samsung Froyo so I don't think it will be too far off for the OTA

iamcombat said:
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure there was already a leaked copy of the Samsung Froyo so I don't think it will be too far off for the OTA
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Quite the opposite. That leaked copy is an early test build which lacks a lot of features and buggy as well.

^yeah dont try it!!!

I am new to the Smartphone and I have an naive question? Is there any possible danger to root the Captivate? Would it be locked by AT&T? Thanks!

Invocation said:
I am new to the Smartphone and I have an naive question? Is there any possible danger to root the Captivate? Would it be locked by AT&T? Thanks!
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Not sure what you mean by "locked by AT&T", but, AT&T will never know its been rooted unless they have it in their hands.
There is always the possibility of something going wrong, but unlikely if you follow the directions as they are written. Research is important too. I've learned TONS here, from others mistakes and experiments.

i have epic 4g (rooted) but OTA not working.
cant update PRL, FIRMWARE, nor profile. I am kinda worried.
Has anyone tried updating PRL?
Is there a way to install OTA.APK back to my rooted phone? I copied the old stock OTA.APK to my sd card and tried installing it in debugging mode, but wouldnt let me.
Help?

yonglee09 said:
i have epic 4g (rooted) but OTA not working.
cant update PRL, FIRMWARE, nor profile. I am kinda worried.
Has anyone tried updating PRL?
Is there a way to install OTA.APK back to my rooted phone? I copied the old stock OTA.APK to my sd card and tried installing it in debugging mode, but wouldnt let me.
Help?
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Might want to ask in the Epic forums
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Should we unroot before accepting the ota download?
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Caliesv said:
Should we unroot before accepting the ota download?
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I didn't and everything went fine.

axis01 said:
I didn't and everything went fine.
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Anyone think we should unroot before updating to 2.2? (when ever the hell that is)
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Rooting and ROM upgrade question

Noob question: If I root my stock AT&T Captivate, will I need to un-root to upgrade to the final Froyo ROM when it is released?
Thanks...

You should be able to update just fine if you are rooted. I was rooted and had no problem updating OTA ATTs last update. That being said, consider the cognition ROM if you want to get the best system with the least amount of work.

Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?

daesdaemar said:
Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?
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The OTA isnt automatic. It will notify you if there is an update, but not automatically install it for you

rooting is simply just adding files to your system. No stock files are deleted. You should be able to OTA just fine while rooted and nothing else.

orlandoxpolice said:
rooting is simply just adding files to your system. No stock files are deleted. You should be able to OTA just fine while rooted and nothing else.
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I did an ota while rooted. Worked no problem. Even kept the root after the install.
From a phone on an app

boborone said:
I did an ota while rooted. Worked no problem. Even kept the root after the install.
From a phone on an app
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I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
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I had no problems doing the ota while I was rooted, lag fixed and partial bloatware removed. However on my new captivate the ota failed so I updated using kies mini and it was like I did a factory reset and I had to do a factory reset because my ext system was there but one click root didn't recognize its and said I didn't have enough space for fix.after reset I had no problems.
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Dell2 said:
I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
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Obviously you didn't read enough. I posted in half of em a well as others like the guy above this post who had no problems. Might wanna lower the bs flag. Lots of people have problems, most don't. Just cause one guy posted his doesn't mean the other 99 have the same issue.
If you mess with the rom, you will have issues with any phone with any ota update.
From a phone on an app

Dell2 said:
I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
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the problems were due to more than just rooting

Nokia E71
daesdaemar said:
Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?
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Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.

EpicSaga said:
Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.
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This is the Captivate forum. Please post to the proper forum and always do a search before starting a new thread. The user you responded to probably does not have that phone anymore, but you'd be better off sending him a PM rather than posting to the wrong forum.

EpicSaga said:
Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.
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LOL...
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holy necro thread batman

Jailbreaking/rooting
daesdaemar said:
Noob question: If I root my stock AT&T Captivate, will I need to un-root to upgrade to the final Froyo ROM when it is released?
Thanks...
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Hi I am trying to help my friends with a phone that they are going to buy. I only know that it is a Nokia E71. I need to know if they can root it or jailbreak it. I need to know which one. Can they tether with it? Thank you. I had to Google the question and it took me here. Hopefully I can find my way back to this part of the forum!

GSM phones
I don't know if there are any GSM phones listed on this site. I entered in the Nokia E71 info in the "find your device..." box in the top right hand corner on the screen but nothing came up. I was wondering if anyone knows if the phone can be rooted or jailbreaked and if it can be used for tethering. I don't know if GSM phones from Walmart's Straight talk plan are hackable. If you would let me know it would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou.

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Miami_Son said:
This is the Captivate forum. Please post to the proper forum and always do a search before starting a new thread. The user you responded to probably does not have that phone anymore, but you'd be better off sending him a PM rather than posting to the wrong forum.
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Thank you, I just got your message after posting more in this forum.

Newcomers please read me, a helpful little guide

While I'm seeing an influx of new comers to the MyTouch4G section, most likely due to newer phones coming out and picking these up cheap.
I'd like to remind you of a couple of things prior to just jumping in and rooting your phone.
Disclaimer: i am not a mod or an admin, just a humble "helper outer"
First Things First.​Rooting one's phone is not to be taken lightly. When you root your phone to are basically giving your self SU access to the /system files of your phone. While this allows for GREAT expansion of the devices capabilities, you need to under stand that it can also brick your device in a heart beat. I know a guy who lives in St.Louis who said all he did was flash a custom font, via an application, on his rooted droid 2 and it bricked. You need to read, and understand what you are getting into. Because when the rubber meets the road you are the only one who can save your phone.
Secondly and just as important as anything else else.​please install the ADB drivers at a minimum. TrueBlue_Drew has put together a very simple walk-through with video for this http://bit.ly/q7MP9t. Please take the time to learn the basic commands and what they do.
Third, and this can prevent some headaches down the road​please go and check which eMMC chipset you have. Our phones where made in two different places, and have two different Chip set serial numbers. One of them is problematic and one of them is pretty safe. Please take time to verify which chipset you have prior to flashing anything. And yes it can be done without root access [http://bit.ly/y2zmdr]. Please see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Fourth, and this is where the rubbers meets the road. ​A)
You need to decide which root method is for you. There are two different proven methods out there. One is known as the root.sh method. This is the simplest method. the long and short of it is this. You download a packet, extract a folder to your SD Cards root directory. Then you download, install and run a program called VISIONary. after you do that you enter a simple command or two to run the script in the extracted folder. you can find that method here root.sh method now this method will work to turn your phone into a rooted s-off phone. and is super easy i used this method to root my phone with s-off before i even left the T-Mobile store when i bought the devices. However it only turns off the security flags. IF you flash the PD15IMG to return to a stock fashion it will remove all SU rights.
B)
the second method is a bit more entailed but completely removes the security flags. IT's called ./gfree method. Now you need to be careful because this will root a phone with a bad eMMC chipset. Meaning it will be easier for you to brick your device. If that happens you own a 200-500 USD paper weight. And as of currently there is no sure fire way to recover from it. you can find more on that method here ./gfree rooting method.
c)
ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE STOCK 2.3.4 (GINGERBREAD) ROM
you must downgrade to 2.2.1 before you can root your phone.
Please see this link http://bit.ly/rugejM.
d)
if you do not know what you are doing i would advise against the OneClickRoot for rooting ANY phone. It's a simple path to enable someone with no knowledge to root their device.
We are glad you have chosen to make XDA your source for all of your hacker needs. But please take some time and read and study prior to doing anything. We'd hate to see you root and brick your phone because you over looked something.
the Q&A section is used for just that Questions and Answers
the Accessory section is for just that Accessories devoted to the HTC Glacier
the Development Section is just that a section where you can find ROMS, Kernels, hacker, and PC/Mac/Linux guides
the App section is just that a place for us to talk about add ons and applications
everything else falls under the general section.
hope you enjoy your stay here.

Finally, and i wanted to post this separately
please do not be afraid of the search button or Google. Chances are if you've encountered a problem, or have a question. Someone has already asked it, or solved it.
Please watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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that is what is encouraged, unless you want a $500 brick.

saranhai said:
that is what is encouraged, unless you want a $500 brick.
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So I got that, plus the bad display!!! Do I call T-Mobile?
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Thank you this is very helpful! I just got replacement mt4g due to the bad emmc chip failing and it had the 2.3.4 on it. And it was a pain finding all the info plus the bad info people was giving out to root my phone. So now all new and replacement mt4g's are shipping with 2.3.4 on them, my mother just got a free mt4g and it had 2.3.4 already on it.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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If it does go bad there is good chance you can exchange it just don't tell them anything about you rooted the phone. I sent my phone in rooted with S off with a different problem and had no problem getting an exchange now I have this 2.3.4 which is not too bad but still figuring out the downgrade process I miss all the privileges with being rooted.

jigajay said:
If it does go bad there is good chance you can exchange it just don't tell them anything about you rooted the phone. I sent my phone in rooted with S off with a different problem and had no problem getting an exchange now I have this 2.3.4 which is not too bad but still figuring out the downgrade process I miss all the privileges with being rooted.
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+1 on replacing with no problem.
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Rooted and downgraded with this guide. Thanks SOO MUCH!!!
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This thread should probably be stickied.

chem.manish said:
This thread should probably be stickied.
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You could PM a local admin/mod and they could do that if they see fit.

Great guide! It helped me with several questions I had, I was even able to check if I had a bad eMMC, I'm lucky I have the good one \o/
My phone came with 2.3.4, I really want to root to remove all the junk that comes preinstalled.
I have a question, if I used the root.sh method (which seems the safest), after downgrading of course. If I flash a rooted stock 2.3.4 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
Would I loose my S-OFF? Also to install the ClockworkMod recovery, is it the same way as other phones? ex can I just install it using the ROM manager?
Also is it really necessary to flash the engineering bootloader?
thanks for this great tutorial!

Salvy said:
Would I loose my S-OFF? Also to install the ClockworkMod recovery, is it the same way as other phones? ex can I just install it using the ROM manager?
Also is it really necessary to flash the engineering bootloader?
thanks for this great tutorial!
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Once you have s-off, you will keep s-off until you manually turn it to s-on. So to answer your question.
No if you flash the rooted 2.3.4 of the stock OS you will keep s-off.
Yes you can flash it via the recovery image, without any problems. Just make sure to do a back up first.
It's not really needed, but encouraged as you can flash specific sections of the OS, or recovery image if needed.

Thank you very much for your help!
Everything went smoothly, now I'm in 2.3.4 rooted with bloat and ad free ^_^
The root.sh method didn't work for me though, but gfree worked like a charm (was kind of scared using it, but since I already checked my eMMC was good, I went ahead and worked perfectly!)
Thanks for your help!

thanks for help

Thanks, very useful information for mytouch 4g owners

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Great guide! Thanks!

nice starting guide for new mytouch 4g users hoping to root to read!

Thanks for the info!

[Q] updating g2x

Hi, this is a really noobish question but i'm a bit curious. I have a g2x that is rooted, 2.2.2 froyo and i want to update it to the newest android version. Does that mean i must unroot my phone and then update it? Or is there a way to do it without unrooting?? Thanks!!

Search for how to flash clockworkmod recovery on the g2x. Follow those steps and then you can use it to flash any rom you want that is compatible with the g2x. Unrooting beforehand isn't necessary. If you flash a custom rom with an updated android version, it will already have root access. So no need to even reroot. Look around in the forums on your own for a while, there is plenty of information here.
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WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING WITH FROYO!?!?!?
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Make sure you are rooted nvflash way
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nickaplease said:
Hi, this is a really noobish question but i'm a bit curious. I have a g2x that is rooted, 2.2.2 froyo and i want to update it to the newest android version. Does that mean i must unroot my phone and then update it? Or is there a way to do it without unrooting?? Thanks!!
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Most of you're questions can easily be answered, by doing alot of reading, and searching through the forums,
(however)
There is a 'sea' of information in the forums.
So much so that it can be overwhelming To someone who has never flashed or modded their phones.
"So yes do alot of reading and research"
( but remember)
We are here to help each other,
So before you just go off and do it Willy-nilly, if you have any questions, ask and we can help you through the process.
And if your a visual person you can find alot of info on YouTube and such.
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Will updating software mess up my root

I keep on getting this prompt saying I need to update my software, it'll just take a few minutes, etc. I rooted my phone just recently and want to make sure that if I update I won't lose my root privileges.
The reason I'd like to update us I'd like top see if it will fix the problem with the WiFi connection, I've completely lousy the ability top connect to WiFi.
Does anyone have any info in these issues?
Thanks
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Yes, you will lose your root. You can either use ota rootkeeper from the play store or my recommendation would be to just flash a ROM. CleanROM to be specific. It's based off the latest OTA. Flash that and the latest radio and you'll be golden. Best ROM available.
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choocher said:
I keep on getting this prompt saying I need to update my software, it'll just take a few minutes, etc. I rooted my phone just recently and want to make sure that if I update I won't lose my root privileges.
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If you install and activate OTARootkeeper, it will preserve your root. It's pretty much idiot-proof.

+1 for OTARootKeeper. It worked for me when my phone updated from 1.73 to 1.85.
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iElvis said:
If you install and activate OTARootkeeper, it will preserve your root. It's pretty much idiot-proof.
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It should be noted that OTA Rootkeeper is verified to work with the 1.85 OTA, but its not a sure thing for every OTA. Its possible that future OTA's may still break root, even with Rootkeeper. When future updates come out, safest to see if OTA Rootkeeper works for others before attempting yourself, unless you feel like being brave (I guess somebody has to be the guinea pig). Or to install the update by some other means, as they are often posted here in pre-rooted form and installable via recovery.

I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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choocher said:
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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There are such things, but if you're that clueless, you should do some reading and researching about the general subject before doing anything with your phone. Don't do anything that a) you don't fully understands and b) don't know how to undo.

choocher said:
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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The reason why everybody talks like you should know what a ROM is is because this is xda-developers. This site is geared directly towards developers and users who root and flash ROMs and mods. It is pretty much understood that if you are on this site, you should at the very least know what a ROM is. There are other, more general Android sites out there that are for the average user but this is not one of those sites.
That said, if you check out the development section, you will see a whole bunch of threads for various ROMs and mods, I suggest checking them out and you will see what benefits they provide and how their experiences differ from the stock one. Flashing a ROM is a lot easier than you would think, and the benefits are endless. Everything you need to know about how to do it can be found here on xda, just look around a bit and you will find all the info you need. Good luck!

Thank you for the help and direction.
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No prob. If after doing some reading you still have questions, don't hesitate to ask. We're here to help
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