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Rooting and ROM upgrade question

Noob question: If I root my stock AT&T Captivate, will I need to un-root to upgrade to the final Froyo ROM when it is released?
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You should be able to update just fine if you are rooted. I was rooted and had no problem updating OTA ATTs last update. That being said, consider the cognition ROM if you want to get the best system with the least amount of work.

Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?

daesdaemar said:
Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?
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The OTA isnt automatic. It will notify you if there is an update, but not automatically install it for you

rooting is simply just adding files to your system. No stock files are deleted. You should be able to OTA just fine while rooted and nothing else.

orlandoxpolice said:
rooting is simply just adding files to your system. No stock files are deleted. You should be able to OTA just fine while rooted and nothing else.
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I did an ota while rooted. Worked no problem. Even kept the root after the install.
From a phone on an app

boborone said:
I did an ota while rooted. Worked no problem. Even kept the root after the install.
From a phone on an app
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I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I had no problems doing the ota while I was rooted, lag fixed and partial bloatware removed. However on my new captivate the ota failed so I updated using kies mini and it was like I did a factory reset and I had to do a factory reset because my ext system was there but one click root didn't recognize its and said I didn't have enough space for fix.after reset I had no problems.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Dell2 said:
I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Obviously you didn't read enough. I posted in half of em a well as others like the guy above this post who had no problems. Might wanna lower the bs flag. Lots of people have problems, most don't. Just cause one guy posted his doesn't mean the other 99 have the same issue.
If you mess with the rom, you will have issues with any phone with any ota update.
From a phone on an app

Dell2 said:
I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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the problems were due to more than just rooting

Nokia E71
daesdaemar said:
Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?
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Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.

EpicSaga said:
Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.
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This is the Captivate forum. Please post to the proper forum and always do a search before starting a new thread. The user you responded to probably does not have that phone anymore, but you'd be better off sending him a PM rather than posting to the wrong forum.

EpicSaga said:
Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.
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LOL...
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holy necro thread batman

Jailbreaking/rooting
daesdaemar said:
Noob question: If I root my stock AT&T Captivate, will I need to un-root to upgrade to the final Froyo ROM when it is released?
Thanks...
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Hi I am trying to help my friends with a phone that they are going to buy. I only know that it is a Nokia E71. I need to know if they can root it or jailbreak it. I need to know which one. Can they tether with it? Thank you. I had to Google the question and it took me here. Hopefully I can find my way back to this part of the forum!

GSM phones
I don't know if there are any GSM phones listed on this site. I entered in the Nokia E71 info in the "find your device..." box in the top right hand corner on the screen but nothing came up. I was wondering if anyone knows if the phone can be rooted or jailbreaked and if it can be used for tethering. I don't know if GSM phones from Walmart's Straight talk plan are hackable. If you would let me know it would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou.

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Miami_Son said:
This is the Captivate forum. Please post to the proper forum and always do a search before starting a new thread. The user you responded to probably does not have that phone anymore, but you'd be better off sending him a PM rather than posting to the wrong forum.
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Thank you, I just got your message after posting more in this forum.

ota on root

My thunderbolt is rooted. I am not running an special roms. I quess you could said I run a stock root. My thunderbolt just told me there is a update available. If I take it will I loose root access. It is the update for the constant rebooting.

The update for rooted phones is out. I believe it is on XDA.

If you have rooted and titanium backup you can freeze the update 2.300.... progaram and your phone won't check for updates anymore and you can save a bit of memory and maybe even some battery life in the process. If your like me you check the forums for updates on a regular basis, or better yet your rooted with a custom Rom and don't worry about Verizon updates.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App

update
I looked at xda and didnt see the update for rooted phones. If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

bama9393 said:
I looked at xda and didnt see the update for rooted phones. If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
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[ROM] Official 1.70.605.0 MR2 OTA Deodexed Rooted Busybox Debloated [Link Added]
and here is the radio file for the OTA
[RADIO] Official OTA MR2 Radio 1.39.00.0627r [7/8/2011]
That will give you basically a stock ROM without the bloat crap.

Thank you
I really do appreciate your help. One last question. Is that rom the closest I can get to stock? Also I am sorry for asking questions in the wrong place. I should have ask this in the Q&A section. It wont happen again.

Thank you. One last thing.
I really do appreciate your help. One last question. Is that rom the closest I can get to stock? Also I am sorry for asking questions in the wrong place. I should have ask this in the Q&A section. It wont happen again.

bama9393 said:
I really do appreciate your help. One last question. Is that rom the closest I can get to stock? Also I am sorry for asking questions in the wrong place. I should have ask this in the Q&A section. It wont happen again.
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Yes that is the OTA just deodexed and debloated basically. It will appear to be stock but without the garbage!

intender said:
If you have rooted and titanium backup you can freeze the update 2.300.... progaram and your phone won't check for updates anymore and you can save a bit of memory and maybe even some battery life in the process. If your like me you check the forums for updates on a regular basis, or better yet your rooted with a custom Rom and don't worry about Verizon updates.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
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Thanks for this info!

Android 2.3 Now Available :)

Android 2.3 Software Number EH17 From USCC... Its posted on their site
uscellular.com/androidupgrades

Not working for some reason.....
I have tried to update...but Kies mini is telling me I have the latest version lol

You can take it to a store tech center and have them reflash your phone with it if mini kies isn't working.
Mini kies has been a flaming hot mess more often than not with these updates, so a full reflash at the store is probably not a bad idea anyway.

Strange....Its been taken down!
The update for Samsung MESMERIZE Android 2.3 Software Number EH17 From USCC HAS BEEN REMOVED!
What happened....? lol

Should be back up from what my usc employee friend says
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

trvbone said:
Should be back up from what my usc employee friend says
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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Your friend is wrong as of now.

akellar said:
Your friend is wrong as of now.
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yeah well you are wrong.
2.3.4 EH09 is posted on the USCellular site and i am downloading it now.
wont be updating until someone does it, loses root, and can confirm that root is obtainable again.

v_lestat said:
yeah well you are wrong.
2.3.4 EH09 is posted on the USCellular site and i am downloading it now.
wont be updating until someone does it, loses root, and can confirm that root is obtainable again.
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Go back to your cave troll. 4 hours ago when I posted this it wasn't up. Obviously we are all aware it is now.

Hoping to see Odin installs soon.

is there a way to do this without losing root?

Anyong got a link for full stock odin files? Hate kies
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

Has anyone tried this? I get an error extracting on 4 different machines, tried downloading twice, just wondering if anyone's had better luck.

i am not sure whats going on guys but the Mez is dead on XDA,
all support, modding, and firmwares, both the new EH09 and old stuff is over at rootzwiki.
i dont like it, i much prefer XDA but there was already this morning a rooted stock EH09 plus the full stock EH09
both for odin.
already flashed the stock unrooted and and booting into the stock rooted now.
sorry guys but rootzwiki has got a huge jump on this.
not even our own dev section here has anything new about EH09, and hasnt had any firmware/rom updates in weeks...

v_lestat said:
yeah well you are wrong.
2.3.4 EH09 is posted on the USCellular site and i am downloading it now.
wont be updating until someone does it, loses root, and can confirm that root is obtainable again.
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I think it's safe.

v_lestat said:
i am not sure whats going on guys but the Mez is dead on XDA,
all support, modding, and firmwares, both the new EH09 and old stuff is over at rootzwiki.
i dont like it, i much prefer XDA but there was already this morning a rooted stock EH09 plus the full stock EH09
both for odin.
already flashed the stock unrooted and and booting into the stock rooted now.
sorry guys but rootzwiki has got a huge jump on this.
not even our own dev section here has anything new about EH09, and hasnt had any firmware/rom updates in weeks...
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because the devs all got kicked out on the road and rootzwiki took them in. don't expect any updates or anything other than the few of us older guys checking back to take care of the noobs that post here.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500

v_lestat said:
i am not sure whats going on guys but the Mez is dead on XDA,
all support, modding, and firmwares, both the new EH09 and old stuff is over at rootzwiki.
i dont like it, i much prefer XDA but there was already this morning a rooted stock EH09 plus the full stock EH09
both for odin.
already flashed the stock unrooted and and booting into the stock rooted now.
sorry guys but rootzwiki has got a huge jump on this.
not even our own dev section here has anything new about EH09, and hasnt had any firmware/rom updates in weeks...
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Bottom line: Our developers and users have moved to Rootzwiki. Its still the same users and developers that were once here; same usernames and everything. Everyone's there. Just a new location (and new management).
Whats done is done; the mass exodus has occurred and it can't be changed. So lets quit talking about it. Get on the Rootzwiki boat or stay in ghost town. Your choice.
sageDieu said:
other than the few of us older guys checking back to take care of the noobs that post here.
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Precisely. Except I'm under a contractual agreement to stay around and keep jerdog on his toes.

droidroidz said:
Anyong got a link for full stock odin files? Hate kies
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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The official EH09 download isn't Kies. It's a prepackaged update similar to how the Acclaim was.

I guess i missed the jump from the boat..thanks for the updates
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

Just upgraded without kies.
No kies on my Samsung N150 Plus netbook, just installed USCC_I500_EH09_SimpleDL from the US Cellular android upgrade section. Followed instructions (except for battery life, performed this with 81%) phone rebooted, all apps intact including acircuitboard live wallpaper, root apps, contacts, calender, etc...., EXCEPT ROOT ACCESS! Super User gone baby, verified with root check app. guess I'll give GingerBreak a try this weekend, heck I may even try SuperOneClick again to see what happens. Here's a trick for you warranty voider freaker outers, if you brick it, just tell your provider you lost the phone and pay the $50 or whatever dollar insurance claim and get a new GXS.

Obviously no root access, it's a stock official rom.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500

Tmobile mytouch 4g gets an update..

HI all my Tmobile mytouch 4g just got a software update to 2.32.531.1 ,its is 24.22 MB .. This inclures new enhancement and importannt security update and wont be deleting any files inside as per the notice, download going on now.. will let u know more on this.
see attached image..
Cheers,
Renga

Rengak05 said:
...Tmobile mytouch 4g just got a software update to 2.32.531.1 ,its is 24.22 MB ...
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I tried searching google for any info on this update. It appears you are the first and only to mention it!
Looking forward to hearing more about it. I wonder if this will roll out in the West or just in India.
Thanks for the notice, and please keep us posted!

In az just checked and i have the same update available
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

when I did an upgrade check on my phone I got the notice for this as well - Colorado -
I checked on of my employee's phones, and it found it for him too.
Question, will this break root?

Milehighmeltdown said:
Question, will this break root?
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That's really the important question.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the Carrier IQ mess.

Skipjacks said:
That's really the important question.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the Carrier IQ mess.
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Typically any Official update will break #SU access and sometimes cause a serious headache in the process.
If you are rooted, do not apply the update. Just wait for a kitchen baked variant to be released.

neidlinger said:
Typically any Official update will break #SU access and sometimes cause a serious headache in the process.
If you are rooted, do not apply the update. Just wait for a kitchen baked variant to be released.
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The ones in the radio thread stickied in the development section are ok to flash. They are setup properly for root. Bluetooth definitely got some attention in this update. Much more stable connection than before, not perfect, but much better and livable.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

What changes are included in this update? Any chance sense 3.0 is included?

neidlinger said:
Typically any Official update will break #SU access and sometimes cause a serious headache in the process.
If you are rooted, do not apply the update. Just wait for a kitchen baked variant to be released.
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In the dev section there's a rooted version already out.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........

Disregard this post, replied to the previous poster, then realized they were talking to someone else, sorry!

I just applied this update on my wife's phone that is stock 2.3.4...don't notice anything different so far, no sense 3.0 or anything.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

maybe fixes visual voicemail bug?
For about 6 weeks I've been having issues with the stock visual voicemail app force-closing every time I tried to use it. I tried going into the app's settings area and clearing its data, then re-enabling it in the caller app, all to no avail.
I just installed this update and it looks like my VVM is working again, so I'm hoping this was indeed a known issue and was fixed.
(FTR, I'm not sure that a factory reset before the update wouldn't have fixed the problem, but I didn't feel like re-installing all my apps so I let it go and just used the old-school voicemail number for a while.)

Is there anyway possible for me to get the update because i had s-off and then i wanted to unroot but i used gfree so i had to use gfree and ran into a crap load of problems leaving me right now with s-off and no root permissions . i need to get a new mytouch because this one randomly restarts and i cant send in one with s-off... can anyone help me out?

Rengak05 said:
HI all my Tmobile mytouch 4g just got a software update to 2.32.531.1 ,its is 24.22 MB .. This inclures new enhancement and importannt security update and wont be deleting any files inside as per the notice, download going on now.. will let u know more on this.
see attached image..
Cheers,
Renga
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If you can please post any other changes you noticed.. thanks.

Is there anything in this radio other than a new radio and new hboot?
I'm s-off via engineering bootloader, NOT gfree. Is it worth the trouble to use gfree so I can ruu and stay s-off, accept the update, then flash clockworkmod recovery via bootloader, then go back to cm7?
That's exactly what I did with the sensation.
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

I haven't even gotten the 2.3 update yet, I'm still on 2.2, same with my brother.

steven-026 said:
I haven't even gotten the 2.3 update yet, I'm still on 2.2, same with my brother.
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You might be better off downloading the rom and doing it yourself.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384438.
If not go to T-Mobile store and yell at them. Just kidding. Go to the store they might be helpful.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium

Phateless said:
Is there anything in this radio other than a new radio and new hboot?
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
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http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/mytouch-4g-software-update-begins-on-december-20th/
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

jr_718 said:
You might be better off downloading the rom and doing it yourself.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384438.
If not go to T-Mobile store and yell at them. Just kidding. Go to the store they might be helpful.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
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I don't want to wipe my phone though, and I'm not even sure if I'll be able to fit the file on my sd card haha, too much music.

steven-026 said:
I don't want to wipe my phone though, and I'm not even sure if I'll be able to fit the file on my sd card haha, too much music.
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Guess you can upgrade your sdcard.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium

[Q] Unroot, Carrier patches, etc

I couldn't find anything based on an Unroot thread, as well as some generalized questions.
SOMETIMES, phone devs, and the carriers, put out patches that actually correct some ugly known issues. Correct me if i'm wrong, but if i root, i'm led to believe i can not download carrier patches and updates.
My concern is If I root and there's by chance some JESUS patch that is issued that corrects reception issues, power cycle, etc. Is there a way to unroot the device.
First post by the way, go easy.
Edit: OH also, I forgot to mention, from what im reading around 2.3.6 seems to be the current version out for at&t however i'm only on 2.3.5 i've tried pushing the update by checking through settings>updates. It's telling me however that there aren't any available? Or did they pull the update for some reason?

You can always restore the phone back to stock if you want to.
Read through here. Valuable info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
Here is where you can get a stock image file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943
Be careful and read before you do anything to your phone.
If you're still not sure what to do, ask.
Asking a dumb question is better than having a bricked phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943

rjohnstone said:
You can always restore the phone back to stock if you want to.
Read through here. Valuable info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
Here is where you can get a stock image file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943
Be careful and read before you do anything to your phone.
If you're still not sure what to do, ask.
Asking a dumb question is better than having a bricked phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943
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I'm thinking about throwing ICS on it, but it sounds unstable, any opinions?

Sky ice is an awesome rom its ics like but thats as close to ics your gonna get for now. Devs here are working on getting it for us but its a work in progress and you wont see anything out for it for a while. As stated above read read read before you do anything with your phone. I lurked here for a month before i did anything with mine.

madmax49201 said:
Sky ice is an awesome rom its ics like but thats as close to ics your gonna get for now. Devs here are working on getting it for us but its a work in progress and you wont see anything out for it for a while. As stated above read read read before you do anything with your phone. I lurked here for a month before i did anything with mine.
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Isn't that just a 2.3.5 build with a ICS-like skin over it?

Jonnysoterrible said:
Isn't that just a 2.3.5 build with a ICS-like skin over it?
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Have you found a real ics that nobody else has? If not then sky is about as close as you are going to get
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777

Found a YouTube video but it was the wrong phone, mistook the captivate for the skyrocket. My fault sorry about that.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA App

rjohnstone said:
You can always restore the phone back to stock if you want to.
Read through here. Valuable info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
Here is where you can get a stock image file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943
Be careful and read before you do anything to your phone.
If you're still not sure what to do, ask.
Asking a dumb question is better than having a bricked phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943
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Thank you again for your advice
I used this root method (zergrush), and it was very simple and straightforward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Now, i just have to figure out what ROM I want to apply...