I keep on getting this prompt saying I need to update my software, it'll just take a few minutes, etc. I rooted my phone just recently and want to make sure that if I update I won't lose my root privileges.
The reason I'd like to update us I'd like top see if it will fix the problem with the WiFi connection, I've completely lousy the ability top connect to WiFi.
Does anyone have any info in these issues?
Thanks
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Yes, you will lose your root. You can either use ota rootkeeper from the play store or my recommendation would be to just flash a ROM. CleanROM to be specific. It's based off the latest OTA. Flash that and the latest radio and you'll be golden. Best ROM available.
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choocher said:
I keep on getting this prompt saying I need to update my software, it'll just take a few minutes, etc. I rooted my phone just recently and want to make sure that if I update I won't lose my root privileges.
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If you install and activate OTARootkeeper, it will preserve your root. It's pretty much idiot-proof.
+1 for OTARootKeeper. It worked for me when my phone updated from 1.73 to 1.85.
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If you install and activate OTARootkeeper, it will preserve your root. It's pretty much idiot-proof.
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It should be noted that OTA Rootkeeper is verified to work with the 1.85 OTA, but its not a sure thing for every OTA. Its possible that future OTA's may still break root, even with Rootkeeper. When future updates come out, safest to see if OTA Rootkeeper works for others before attempting yourself, unless you feel like being brave (I guess somebody has to be the guinea pig). Or to install the update by some other means, as they are often posted here in pre-rooted form and installable via recovery.
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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choocher said:
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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There are such things, but if you're that clueless, you should do some reading and researching about the general subject before doing anything with your phone. Don't do anything that a) you don't fully understands and b) don't know how to undo.
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I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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The reason why everybody talks like you should know what a ROM is is because this is xda-developers. This site is geared directly towards developers and users who root and flash ROMs and mods. It is pretty much understood that if you are on this site, you should at the very least know what a ROM is. There are other, more general Android sites out there that are for the average user but this is not one of those sites.
That said, if you check out the development section, you will see a whole bunch of threads for various ROMs and mods, I suggest checking them out and you will see what benefits they provide and how their experiences differ from the stock one. Flashing a ROM is a lot easier than you would think, and the benefits are endless. Everything you need to know about how to do it can be found here on xda, just look around a bit and you will find all the info you need. Good luck!
Thank you for the help and direction.
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No prob. If after doing some reading you still have questions, don't hesitate to ask. We're here to help
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While I'm seeing an influx of new comers to the MyTouch4G section, most likely due to newer phones coming out and picking these up cheap.
I'd like to remind you of a couple of things prior to just jumping in and rooting your phone.
Disclaimer: i am not a mod or an admin, just a humble "helper outer"
First Things First.Rooting one's phone is not to be taken lightly. When you root your phone to are basically giving your self SU access to the /system files of your phone. While this allows for GREAT expansion of the devices capabilities, you need to under stand that it can also brick your device in a heart beat. I know a guy who lives in St.Louis who said all he did was flash a custom font, via an application, on his rooted droid 2 and it bricked. You need to read, and understand what you are getting into. Because when the rubber meets the road you are the only one who can save your phone.
Secondly and just as important as anything else else.please install the ADB drivers at a minimum. TrueBlue_Drew has put together a very simple walk-through with video for this http://bit.ly/q7MP9t. Please take the time to learn the basic commands and what they do.
Third, and this can prevent some headaches down the roadplease go and check which eMMC chipset you have. Our phones where made in two different places, and have two different Chip set serial numbers. One of them is problematic and one of them is pretty safe. Please take time to verify which chipset you have prior to flashing anything. And yes it can be done without root access [http://bit.ly/y2zmdr]. Please see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Fourth, and this is where the rubbers meets the road. A)
You need to decide which root method is for you. There are two different proven methods out there. One is known as the root.sh method. This is the simplest method. the long and short of it is this. You download a packet, extract a folder to your SD Cards root directory. Then you download, install and run a program called VISIONary. after you do that you enter a simple command or two to run the script in the extracted folder. you can find that method here root.sh method now this method will work to turn your phone into a rooted s-off phone. and is super easy i used this method to root my phone with s-off before i even left the T-Mobile store when i bought the devices. However it only turns off the security flags. IF you flash the PD15IMG to return to a stock fashion it will remove all SU rights.
B)
the second method is a bit more entailed but completely removes the security flags. IT's called ./gfree method. Now you need to be careful because this will root a phone with a bad eMMC chipset. Meaning it will be easier for you to brick your device. If that happens you own a 200-500 USD paper weight. And as of currently there is no sure fire way to recover from it. you can find more on that method here ./gfree rooting method.
c)
ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE STOCK 2.3.4 (GINGERBREAD) ROM
you must downgrade to 2.2.1 before you can root your phone.
Please see this link http://bit.ly/rugejM.
d)
if you do not know what you are doing i would advise against the OneClickRoot for rooting ANY phone. It's a simple path to enable someone with no knowledge to root their device.
We are glad you have chosen to make XDA your source for all of your hacker needs. But please take some time and read and study prior to doing anything. We'd hate to see you root and brick your phone because you over looked something.
the Q&A section is used for just that Questions and Answers
the Accessory section is for just that Accessories devoted to the HTC Glacier
the Development Section is just that a section where you can find ROMS, Kernels, hacker, and PC/Mac/Linux guides
the App section is just that a place for us to talk about add ons and applications
everything else falls under the general section.
hope you enjoy your stay here.
Finally, and i wanted to post this separately
please do not be afraid of the search button or Google. Chances are if you've encountered a problem, or have a question. Someone has already asked it, or solved it.
Please watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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that is what is encouraged, unless you want a $500 brick.
saranhai said:
that is what is encouraged, unless you want a $500 brick.
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So I got that, plus the bad display!!! Do I call T-Mobile?
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Thank you this is very helpful! I just got replacement mt4g due to the bad emmc chip failing and it had the 2.3.4 on it. And it was a pain finding all the info plus the bad info people was giving out to root my phone. So now all new and replacement mt4g's are shipping with 2.3.4 on them, my mother just got a free mt4g and it had 2.3.4 already on it.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thanks for this. So your saying not to root at all if you have the "bad" chipset?
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If it does go bad there is good chance you can exchange it just don't tell them anything about you rooted the phone. I sent my phone in rooted with S off with a different problem and had no problem getting an exchange now I have this 2.3.4 which is not too bad but still figuring out the downgrade process I miss all the privileges with being rooted.
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If it does go bad there is good chance you can exchange it just don't tell them anything about you rooted the phone. I sent my phone in rooted with S off with a different problem and had no problem getting an exchange now I have this 2.3.4 which is not too bad but still figuring out the downgrade process I miss all the privileges with being rooted.
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+1 on replacing with no problem.
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Rooted and downgraded with this guide. Thanks SOO MUCH!!!
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This thread should probably be stickied.
chem.manish said:
This thread should probably be stickied.
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You could PM a local admin/mod and they could do that if they see fit.
Great guide! It helped me with several questions I had, I was even able to check if I had a bad eMMC, I'm lucky I have the good one \o/
My phone came with 2.3.4, I really want to root to remove all the junk that comes preinstalled.
I have a question, if I used the root.sh method (which seems the safest), after downgrading of course. If I flash a rooted stock 2.3.4 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
Would I loose my S-OFF? Also to install the ClockworkMod recovery, is it the same way as other phones? ex can I just install it using the ROM manager?
Also is it really necessary to flash the engineering bootloader?
thanks for this great tutorial!
Salvy said:
Would I loose my S-OFF? Also to install the ClockworkMod recovery, is it the same way as other phones? ex can I just install it using the ROM manager?
Also is it really necessary to flash the engineering bootloader?
thanks for this great tutorial!
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Once you have s-off, you will keep s-off until you manually turn it to s-on. So to answer your question.
No if you flash the rooted 2.3.4 of the stock OS you will keep s-off.
Yes you can flash it via the recovery image, without any problems. Just make sure to do a back up first.
It's not really needed, but encouraged as you can flash specific sections of the OS, or recovery image if needed.
Thank you very much for your help!
Everything went smoothly, now I'm in 2.3.4 rooted with bloat and ad free ^_^
The root.sh method didn't work for me though, but gfree worked like a charm (was kind of scared using it, but since I already checked my eMMC was good, I went ahead and worked perfectly!)
Thanks for your help!
thanks for help
Thanks, very useful information for mytouch 4g owners
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Great guide! Thanks!
nice starting guide for new mytouch 4g users hoping to root to read!
Thanks for the info!
Will I still receive the android updates? Ive always been sketchy about rooting my phone because i want to keep the android system as up to date as possible. Will I still receive the android updates if I root my phone or will I have to manually do it somehow?
Much thanks
If you flash a custom rom then you won't recieve the official OTA updates from Google.
If you root the stock rom you will still receive ota updates. You can also manually flash updates(best method). Please do alot of reading about rooting before attempting anything. Had you done this you would have known the answer to your question. Learn how to use adobe and fastboot. Don't be lazy and use a one click root method as this will not teach you anything about your phone and you will not know how to fix a problem should one arise. Thanks for posting in the correct section!
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any recommendations for a guide to root my nexus?
wsiegfri said:
any recommendations for a guide to root my nexus?
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If you have a mac, my guide.
thats what i have. could you link me? also my phone is on 2.3.7
Rem3Dy said:
If you root the stock rom you will still receive ota updates. You can also manually flash updates(best method). Please do alot of reading about rooting before attempting anything. Had you done this you would have known the answer to your question. Learn how to use adobe and fastboot. Don't be lazy and use a one click root method as this will not teach you anything about your phone and you will not know how to fix a problem should one arise. Thanks for posting in the correct section!
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What in the world does he need to know anything about adobe for?
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Auto correction on his phone turned abd into adobe I would say. It is clear to me what was meant.
sooo how should i go about rooting it with 2.3.7 and being on a mac?
Found this sticky in the Nexus S General section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878446
double check if it supports your Nexus s version though.
Guides in Android Development section
do you think it will matter that I'm on mac 10.7?
wsiegfri said:
do you think it will matter that I'm on mac 10.7?
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You'll be just fine
Also, if your rooted and running a, custom ROM, you don't need OTA updates, as the ROM developers incorporate the updates into their ROMs, within a day or two usually. I don't even worry about updates from OEMS or Google anymore.
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One click is certainly looking like a bad idea as the ota does come through and then screws up your superuser. I've been arguing w my phone for a week trying to get past this and put cm7 on it.
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i get to the part where i have to mount my phone while in recovery mode and my phone won't mount to my computer. Some help with this would be greatly appreciated
I'm trying to update my HOX and for some reason it won't happen. My phone downloads the latest OTA (4.0.4?), the phone restarts, goes to the install screen, the progress bar gets a quarter of the way, then a phone with a red triangle pops up. I have no idea what's happening. The phone will eventually restart again, and a pop up will show up and say, "update unsuccessful, please try again later."
Can someone please shed some knowledge. I'm pretty sure this phone isn't rooted or anything. Android is pretty new to me, coming from iOS after 5 years.
It's helping you from making a mistake.
If you accept the ota, then it's lights out for you if you want to unlock or root. Search a little bit, there's a thread with a pre-rooted 2.20 update on here. I'd recommend that. Good luck!
PS: My phone did the same exact thing. I was rooted, which I undid temporarily using Voodoo Rootkeeper, and also I had uninstalled some system bloatware using Titanium Backup. That was enough to cause the ota to fail. Thankfully.
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Not sure what the problem is but if your dead set on taking the update and losing the ability to root or unlock in the near future the ruu is availible in the dev section or you can download it direct from HTC dev. I would highly recommend you do a little more reading before taking the plunge
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Thanks guys. I'll do a little more reading I guess. I'm not that concerned about rooting. Just want this phone updating and to figure why this is happening.
PsstGreek said:
Thanks guys. I'll do a little more reading I guess. I'm not that concerned about rooting. Just want this phone updating and to figure why this is happening.
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If you don't want to root, xda is not for you
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PsstGreek said:
Thanks guys. I'll do a little more reading I guess. I'm not that concerned about rooting. Just want this phone updating and to figure why this is happening.
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Hold your tongue before the angry mob of pitchfork-weilding purists descend on you for not wanting to root! LOL
If you're new, I guess it makes sense, but there is a lot you can do with root, pretty basic stuff, that you can't without it. Like fixing the linkify issue and unlock the tethering app, and the built in tools like flashlight and the FM tuner.
So let the ota fail all it wants while you do some homework. Then call the shot. Good luck.
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The Android gods are trying to give you a second chance at rooting. Consider yourself lucky.
Titanium backup your apps+data, factory reset. Anyone else think of anything different?
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atticusmas said:
If you don't want to root, xda is not for you
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If he doesn't want to root, he can read and be better informed. GG.
PsstGreek said:
Thanks guys. I'll do a little more reading I guess. I'm not that concerned about rooting. Just want this phone updating and to figure why this is happening.
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Blasphemer!
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PsstGreek said:
Thanks guys. I'll do a little more reading I guess. I'm not that concerned about rooting. Just want this phone updating and to figure why this is happening.
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i would root the phone just to remove the bloatware, AT&T installs alot of it and some your can uninstall with titanium backup some youll want to freeze to make sure it doesnt F your system up. so much crap installed out of the box. Cleanrom is good, and i have used the prerooted 2.20 update as well both are good, im currently back to cleanrom, runs stable and i dont have to go crazy freezing and removing bloat
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Titanium backup your apps+data, factory reset. Anyone else think of anything different?
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That would be pretty tough I'd he is not rooted.
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Rooting is growing on me. Pretty much like jailbreaking an iDevice?
Anyway, I upgraded my HOX using the computer RUU program from HTC's site. Can the phone still be rooted? I read something about a One-Click Root. Can someone point me in the right direction as I continue gathering knowledge
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Can the One X be downgraded back to previous firmwares? I'm on 2.20 now, from reading, it doesn't look like there's a root.
Rooting is growing on me. Pretty much like jailbreaking an iDevice?
Anyway, I upgraded my HOX using the computer RUU program from HTC's site. Can the phone still be rooted? I read something about a One-Click Root. Can someone point me in the right direction as I continue gathering knowledge
*edit*
Can the One X be downgraded back to previous firmwares? I'm on 2.20 now, from reading, it doesn't look like there's a root.
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There is currently no root exploit for the 2.20 update and because there was also a new hboot in that update downgrades are not possible either
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E.Cadro said:
There is currently no root exploit for the 2.20 update and because there was also a new hboot in that update downgrades are not possible either
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Ah, okay. Typical rookie mistake and upgrading. Guess, I'll be waiting for one then. With rooting are there any ETA's on when one will be out, or the developers keep it hush-hush like iOS guys?
I really do want to take this AT&T crap off my phone but I shall wait
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Ah, okay. Typical rookie mistake and upgrading. Guess, I'll be waiting for one then. With rooting are there any ETA's on when one will be out, or the developers keep it hush-hush like iOS guys?
I really do want to take this AT&T crap off my phone but I shall wait
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No eta most of the work on any root exploit is usually done behind the scenes more because of the fact that some previous exploits were security holes so not revealing till it is verified as working prevents att or HTC to block or patch it.
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i am new to the one s but not to flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s sprint epic. while i was on that, cm10.1 & 10.2 were great advancements to the stock gb which always seems to take forever for updates. but with this huge leap in smartphone power, do i really need to root & flash? even with all the bloatware that i don't use, the phone is very fast. and i can get two days easily from my battery (which i charge every night so that's not an issue). i used to flash just to have the latest but i think i just want functionality. also, i don't put that much on my phone so 16g should be plenty, even with all the bloatware. not that i wouldn't flash to get better use out of my device but i just don't think i need to. please convince my otherwise.
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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The stock experience is great IMO. Only point in rooting is to remove bloatware
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I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
thedarkside44 said:
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
rugmankc said:
I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
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should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
Goatshocker said:
Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
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explain why?
why?
i guess i wasn't clear. i know the benefits of root. i've been flashing roms on my last 3 devices. the answers i was trying get were more along the lines of what are the main changes people are making to their stock phones. does all the bloatware inhibit speed or limit space? are there roms or tweeks that people can't live without? or do people unlock, root and flash just because they like to mess with their phones/have the latest even if it doesn't work correctly?
only1penny said:
should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
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No, it is in General--It's all good--
When I get my Note 2/3 I will probably only root for Nandroids and Titanium BackUp. I think that phone and maybe SGSIV may stand on their own without a need to flash roms. Might be wrong though-- There are still more sweets after Jelly Beans--
Your last question answered your own question. Today's smartphones don't really require root, UNLESS you like tweaking your phone.....which most of us love to do, otherwise we wouldn't be here. You can easily get rid of bloatware with a new launcher. IE: Nova or Apex are my favorites. Just disable and hide them, you'll never see them again. Back in the day people rooted mainly to get the latest OS quicker....these days the newer smartphones already come with the latest OS, so it's all a matter of whether you like tweaking your phone or not. There are still great benefits to rooting, but these days it's more personal preference over flashing the latest OS.
Just my 2 cents.
tap'n
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explain why?
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I can explain it in one word: Control.
I want to be in charge of the device, not letting the device be in charge of me. If you want that you might as well go with apple, who makes good devices with a terrible OS, imo.
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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TheFreediver said:
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
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Can't comment on stock but Blackout rom has been good for me.
I root because you can never seem to turn the screen brightness down far enough without root access, that and I don't like being locked out of a file system by manufacturers who don't trust my common sense.
I flash only when a device is older and/or no longer getting updated and something like CM gives me a major improvement.
Even if you want to run a stock ROM, unlocking/rooting (and flashing a custom recovery) enables you to make and restore nandroid backups and use tools like Titanium. It's also makes it easier to repair if you ever run into trouble like boot loops.
I want someone to help me with rooting my new HTC One. I also would like to know if it will slow down my phone and if I can undo it?
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We dont mind helping people,but just remember that the search function here and on google are your best friends.This is also the general section,try the Q & A in the HTC One section and here next time,thanks.
http://htconeroot.com/htc-one-root/how-to-root-htc-one-windowsmaclinux/
Thanks for the help
Oh sorry but thanks for the help!
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Thanks for the help
I do have a couple of questions though if you don't mind? Will it slow down my phone and can I undo it? Also do you yourself use rooting on your device?
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UNCFan4LIFE92 said:
I do have a couple of questions though if you don't mind? Will it slow down my phone and can I undo it? Also do you yourself use rooting on your device?
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I recommend quoting people when replying to them. That way they get a notification because normally people don't subscribe to threads like this.
Again this is a question probably more suited to the HTC One section. However, I'll help you.
Rooting is just giving yourself (end user) elevated permissions. The actual root directory is locked for you to access when you get the phone. Essentially rooting will give you freedoms to install and work apps that normally wouldn't e.g Internet tethering.
To answer your question, rooting will not make it slower. Because you haven't really done anything to the phone other then change permissions. You won't even know a phone is rooted unless you check. Rooting can actually make your phone faster via kernel tweaking apps. However, To really make your phone faster you need to flash a custom rom (google it).
And your last question. This forum is for development. Almost everyone has their phones rooted with a custom recovery. That's why they're here