[Q] why root? flash? - HTC One S

i am new to the one s but not to flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s sprint epic. while i was on that, cm10.1 & 10.2 were great advancements to the stock gb which always seems to take forever for updates. but with this huge leap in smartphone power, do i really need to root & flash? even with all the bloatware that i don't use, the phone is very fast. and i can get two days easily from my battery (which i charge every night so that's not an issue). i used to flash just to have the latest but i think i just want functionality. also, i don't put that much on my phone so 16g should be plenty, even with all the bloatware. not that i wouldn't flash to get better use out of my device but i just don't think i need to. please convince my otherwise.

Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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The stock experience is great IMO. Only point in rooting is to remove bloatware
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I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--

thedarkside44 said:
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...

rugmankc said:
I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
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should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.

Goatshocker said:
Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
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explain why?

why?
i guess i wasn't clear. i know the benefits of root. i've been flashing roms on my last 3 devices. the answers i was trying get were more along the lines of what are the main changes people are making to their stock phones. does all the bloatware inhibit speed or limit space? are there roms or tweeks that people can't live without? or do people unlock, root and flash just because they like to mess with their phones/have the latest even if it doesn't work correctly?

only1penny said:
should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
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No, it is in General--It's all good--
When I get my Note 2/3 I will probably only root for Nandroids and Titanium BackUp. I think that phone and maybe SGSIV may stand on their own without a need to flash roms. Might be wrong though-- There are still more sweets after Jelly Beans--

Your last question answered your own question. Today's smartphones don't really require root, UNLESS you like tweaking your phone.....which most of us love to do, otherwise we wouldn't be here. You can easily get rid of bloatware with a new launcher. IE: Nova or Apex are my favorites. Just disable and hide them, you'll never see them again. Back in the day people rooted mainly to get the latest OS quicker....these days the newer smartphones already come with the latest OS, so it's all a matter of whether you like tweaking your phone or not. There are still great benefits to rooting, but these days it's more personal preference over flashing the latest OS.
Just my 2 cents.
tap'n

only1penny said:
explain why?
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I can explain it in one word: Control.
I want to be in charge of the device, not letting the device be in charge of me. If you want that you might as well go with apple, who makes good devices with a terrible OS, imo.

Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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TheFreediver said:
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.

only1penny said:
is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
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Can't comment on stock but Blackout rom has been good for me.

I root because you can never seem to turn the screen brightness down far enough without root access, that and I don't like being locked out of a file system by manufacturers who don't trust my common sense.
I flash only when a device is older and/or no longer getting updated and something like CM gives me a major improvement.

Even if you want to run a stock ROM, unlocking/rooting (and flashing a custom recovery) enables you to make and restore nandroid backups and use tools like Titanium. It's also makes it easier to repair if you ever run into trouble like boot loops.

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Rooted yet otherwise untouched ROM

Hey guys, I was wondering whether there is a rom out there that has been rooted, but otherwise has had nothing else changed? I like the custom roms and everything, but something somewhere never quite works properly. Any suggestions?
Mansn said:
Hey guys, I was wondering whether there is a rom out there that has been rooted, but otherwise has had nothing else changed? I like the custom roms and everything, but something somewhere never quite works properly. Any suggestions?
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You can't just root your phone...?
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Well, I have the Vodafone crapware on my ROM, so I just want a good stock rom that is rooted. For my old Hero there were a couple around that could be flashed very easily.
I'm using virtuous sensation v1.0.1 and its pretty much the same as stock. Very fast and stable.
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Ahh I guess I don't have to start a new thread to ask my question.
All I want is for me to be able to use titanium backup to remove bloatware, rom manager to back things up, and change the pink bootup T-Mobile crap. Will I simply be able to root, add those apps and proceed?
Thanks for the help in advance
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yes, you will be able to root.
1.) s-off
2.) permRoot
you don't need titaniumbackup to uninstall bloatware. simply use the rootexplorer. navigate to system/app and delete that apps you don't want to be on your phone. but don't forget to mount r/w. and before you do so, make a nandroid backup!
How do we perma root without screwing up our WIFI, yet stay with stock ROM? Seems NO ONE has addressed this here on the forum. Suggesting a custom ROM is a bandaid solution.
Matt
mrg02d said:
How do we perma root without screwing up our WIFI, yet stay with stock ROM? Seems NO ONE has addressed this here on the forum. Suggesting a custom ROM is a bandaid solution.
Matt
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What are you talking about? Just above here in this thread people said you can simply to S-OFF and then root the phone without changing the ROM at all?
It doesn't break wifi...
lessthanjoey said:
What are you talking about? Just above here in this thread people said you can simply to S-OFF and then root the phone without changing the ROM at all?
It doesn't break wifi...
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No where did they mention how to root. Many people are losing their wifi doing the regular method that is in the massive guide, so they wind up going back to stock. It is not guaranteed to mess up wifi, but if it does, you are just unlucky. (As of now).
I would like to know how others are rooting (perm.) without having these issues.
Matt
I think the responses in this thread pretty much sum up why we want a rooted yet otherwise untouched ROM. From my flashing experience in the past I have found it *extremely* difficult to find a ROM where everything just works. Some well meant tweak always ends up causing some bizarre problem somewhere down the line.
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No where did they mention how to root. Many people are losing their wifi doing the regular method that is in the massive guide, so they wind up going back to stock. It is not guaranteed to mess up wifi, but if it does, you are just unlucky. (As of now).
I would like to know how others are rooting (perm.) without having these issues.
Matt
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Fair enough - I just flashed the root zip that the Revolution guys linked to and haven't had a single issue.
EDIT: actually it looks like this is solved - just use the correct (newer) su zip as shown in this post

Why is unlocking the bootloader neccessary?

It seems like the bootloader being unlocked is the determining factor in development and implementation of roms/themes for this phone and I dont understand why. I know that unlocking the bootloader allows for some things like overclocking and other tweaks to be done that otherwise could not, but I dont understand why that effects the ability for us to get a working recovery and to be able to flash various mods, including roms and themes. My SE X10 didnt have a locked bootloader and I had xRecovery/WB v6.0 rom/Envy theme and various mods flashed to it just fine.
They ended up being able to unlock the bootloader but I never did it so my phone surely wasnt as fast as those with unlocked bootloader/custom kernel/oc but it was noticeably faster than it was stock so im wondering why we cant have the same on this phone? Aside from the part of not having a working recovery with which to flash them.
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916x10 said:
It seems like the bootloader being unlocked is the determining factor in development and implementation of roms/themes for this phone and I dont understand why. I know that unlocking the bootloader allows for some things like overclocking and other tweaks to be done that otherwise could not, but I dont understand why that effects the ability for us to get a working recovery and to be able to flash various mods, including roms and themes. My SE X10 didnt have a locked bootloader and I had xRecovery/WB v6.0 rom/Envy theme and various mods flashed to it just fine.
They ended up being able to unlock the bootloader but I never did it so my phone surely wasnt as fast as those with unlocked bootloader/custom kernel/oc but it was noticeably faster than it was stock so im wondering why we cant have the same on this phone? Aside from the part of not having a working recovery with which to flash them.
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the x10 modding was very dirty to say the least. if you've ever had a g1 or nexus device, you would see how much easier and less potential for problems involved with an unlocked bootloader. the bootloader allows for custom kernels and radios to be installed easily.
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the x10 modding was very dirty to say the least. if you've ever had a g1 or nexus device, you would see how much easier and less potential for problems involved with an unlocked bootloader. the bootloader allows for custom kernels and radios to be installed easily.
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Less potential for problems? Unlocking the bootloader was the only way I could brick the x10. With a locked bootloader I could do whatever I wanted without fear of bricking it. Saying the modding was dirty doesnt mean anything to me, please explain. I never had any issues with the mods on that phone, it was inredibly better after running Wolfbreaks rom, thats one of the 2 reasons I even kept that phone as long as I did. Im just trying to understand why we need our bootlocker unlocked to get a rom on it. The Bionic bootloader is still locked but they have roms for it. I just dont understand.
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Less potential for problems? Unlocking the bootloader was the only way I could brick the x10. With a locked bootloader I could do whatever I wanted without fear of bricking it. Saying the modding was dirty doesnt mean anything to me, please explain. I never had any issues with the mods on that phone, it was inredibly better after running Wolfbreaks rom, thats one of the 2 reasons I even kept that phone as long as I did. Im just trying to understand why we need our bootlocker unlocked to get a rom on it. The Bionic bootloader is still locked but they have roms for it. I just dont understand.
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i mean less problems with a custom rom or problems for the devs trying to adapt to a non custom kernel. sure, unlocking the bootloader opens up the potential of bricking your device.
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i mean less problems with a custom rom or problems for the devs trying to adapt to a non custom kernel. sure, unlocking the bootloader opens up the potential of bricking your device.
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So its harder to dev a rom for a stock kernel than it is for a custom one? You wouldnt think that would be the case but then again Ive never developed anything so what do I know?
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So its harder to dev a rom for a stock kernel than it is for a custom one? You wouldnt think that would be the case but then again Ive never developed anything so what do I know?
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If its based off of a stock rom, its fine. But if you try to port a cm rom, miui or sdk port, its rough
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If its based off of a stock rom, its fine. But if you try to port a cm rom, miui or sdk port, its rough
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That's exactly what Wolfbreaks rom was, a debloated, tweaked version of the stock rom. Even that was noticeably better than stock so i'm wondering if we could at least get that. It would be better than nothing, right?
but its not like we really need a debloated version of the stock rom. the phone is already extremely fast and most of the bloatware that we have can be uninstalled so what is the point? to waste the developers time just to give us something that will pretty much be same thing just barely be faster?
One reason would be to OC. Would love to see how fast she performs OC to 1.2 plus I'd like to see CyanogenMod on top of ICS
That and I'd like to have Sense. I miss having my HD2 with the Desire stock rom
travisxcore said:
That and I'd like to have Sense. I miss having my HD2 with the Desire stock rom
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you wont see sense on this device....pipe dreams dude. if you want sense, go buy an HTC device....
kindacrazyazn said:
but its not like we really need a debloated version of the stock rom. the phone is already extremely fast and most of the bloatware that we have can be uninstalled so what is the point? to waste the developers time just to give us something that will pretty much be same thing just barely be faster?
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That's pretty obvious seeing as how we can get rid of most of the bloat out of the box. That you would even think that's what i'm requesting somebody do is quite ridiculous, then to type it out and post it even more so.
Wolfbreak and many other devs who contributed tweaks/mods to comprise his rom did waaaay more than debloat, LMAO.
I don't think anyone can say how much faster/smoother the rom will or won't be compared to stock until the work gets done....Wolfbreaks rom made the X10 noticeably faster on locked bootloader, I can only imagine what he could accomplish on the Atrix 2. But i'm not trying to insist anyone do anything for this phone, I was just questioning why everyone seemed to feel we needed to unlock the bootloader before we could get custom roms on the phone. I was expecting to hear some technological explanation about how it's not possible to apply the changes needed with a custom rom due to certain necessary files being unaccessible due to the bootloader being locked. But it just seeems it's a choice being made by the devs who want the full on custom rom/kernel experience instead of at least taking baby steps and tweaking the stock rom to get the most out of it until the bootloader unlock becomes available.
I'm sure there is lots of performance that can be unleashed with the right mods to the stock rom.....but I guess that's kind of putting the carriage before the horse seeing as how we don't even have a way to flash it if someone did do something.
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That's pretty obvious seeing as how we can get rid of most of the bloat out of the box. That you would even think that's what i'm requesting somebody do is quite ridiculous, then to type it out and post it even more so.
Wolfbreak and many other devs who contributed tweaks/mods to comprise his rom did waaaay more than debloat, LMAO.
I don't think anyone can say how much faster/smoother the rom will or won't be compared to stock until the work gets done....Wolfbreaks rom made the X10 noticeably faster on locked bootloader, I can only imagine what he could accomplish on the Atrix 2. But i'm not trying to insist anyone do anything for this phone, I was just questioning why everyone seemed to feel we needed to unlock the bootloader before we could get custom roms on the phone. I was expecting to hear some technological explanation about how it's not possible to apply the changes needed with a custom rom due to certain necessary files being unaccessible due to the bootloader being locked. But it just seeems it's a choice being made by the devs who want the full on custom rom/kernel experience instead of at least taking baby steps and tweaking the stock rom to get the most out of it until the bootloader unlock becomes available.
I'm sure there is lots of performance that can be unleashed with the right mods to the stock rom.....but I guess that's kind of putting the carriage before the horse seeing as how we don't even have a way to flash it if someone did do something.
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ya i am not trying to say you are wrong or anything. i probably just don't know because when i had my first android phone i rooted and went straight to cm6 at the time and it was extremely fast compared to stock. almost anything was faster than stock too. personally if i were to flash a different ROM i would go with something alittle different from stock. that is why i would root it in the first place. OC and other tweaks like signal dbm and battery percent in the status bar would help a lot too but i guess it takes them alittle time to do that. i am excited to be able to overclock though. seeing that the sg2 can overclock to 1.8 Ghz makes me jealous.
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ya i am not trying to say you are wrong or anything. i probably just don't know because when i had my first android phone i rooted and went straight to cm6 at the time and it was extremely fast compared to stock. almost anything was faster than stock too. personally if i were to flash a different ROM i would go with something alittle different from stock. that is why i would root it in the first place. OC and other tweaks like signal dbm and battery percent in the status bar would help a lot too but i guess it takes them alittle time to do that. i am excited to be able to overclock though. seeing that the sg2 can overclock to 1.8 Ghz makes me jealous.
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Wow, thats a crazy OC!
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Pirateghost said:
you wont see sense on this device....pipe dreams dude. if you want sense, go buy an HTC device....
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Hey a man can dream, wouldnt be the first time Ive seen Sense on a non-HTC phone.
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Wow, thats a crazy OC!
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I agree. I was like flipping out when I saw the article on xda and was thinking if I should have bought the sg2 but ATRIX 2 for life! Haha
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You really can't beat the Atrix 2 for the price though. Most of us got it for $50. This thing can hit 1.2ghz for sure, the droid razr is using the same chip and being shipped at 1.2. We could probably even make it to 1.4-5 once its unlocked.
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You really can't beat the Atrix 2 for the price though. Most of us got it for $50. This thing can hit 1.2ghz for sure, the droid razr is using the same chip and being shipped at 1.2. We could probably even make it to 1.4-5 once its unlocked.
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I can't wait for that day. I am also looking forward to the day when we get ics and more ROMs. I miss flashing new ROMs.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I can't wait for that day. I am also looking forward to the day when we get ics and more ROMs. I miss flashing new ROMs.
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Same here! Although im kinda skurred about the oc thing. Oc = heat, increasing the heat
is decreasing the life of the device. I dunno, im just skurred!
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[ROM]-Stock 1.55.531.3 Rooted, Deodex -- REMOVED DUE TO KANG :O

KANG - To steal or a stolen code when referring to programming. Also can refer to leaked coding.
Due to the copious amounts of kanging that now happens in regards to android development I will be pulling all of my links and changing the original posts with this. If you would like to use my roms please feel free to find the kanged version elsewhere.
For inspiring developers, rtfm or ask someone who knows what they are doing before you steal someone elses work, look at someones code and get the general idea. If you port or use something as a base, credit that person. Do not just link back to the thread where you got it from. My email is [email protected] so feel free to ask questions, if I know the answers I will be willing to assist.
I don't wish to call anyone out but I will say there are a few roms, specifically for MT4G Slide that have been kanged. One of which was taken from me, another was a kanged version of CM7 which was just the Settings.apk SettingsProvider.apk and Launcher.apk replaced. CM7 is framework edits, not just a list of apps an entire team works on. You cannot just replace apps in CyanogenMod and expect it to work thus the reason some parts of the Settings.apk force close. Its not hard to be an idiot but its even easier to spot bull**** work, do yourselves a favor, leave xda, leave rootzwiki, leave whatever thread you are on and learn from people who know what the fk they're doing.
If my email fills with hate mail, then fine, at least what I did I feel was right and do not have to worry about my development being taken and rebadged, if I'm out of line then have a moderator delete and close my thread. Thanks!
Mainly because we are looking for s-off... Good work though
rooted 1.55.531.3 with clockwork recovery and SU
Thanks man, i didnt feel like deodexing incase i wanted to start making changes ..hopefully with this stock build you have the cobwebs shook off and we can get cracking
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Finally. Huge thanks bro.
You are a life saver.
i'd like to port this to Desire HD, may i ask to have some screens?
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i'd like to port this to Desire HD, may i ask to have some screens?
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It's the bone stock myTouch ROM, there should be screen shots and videos of it every where on Google. Since It's stock only, no mods us myTouch users already know what to expect it to look like
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Does this have the insecure boot.img? What about the hboot version?
I'm currently unlocked and s-off, running UndeadK9's "stock" deodexed/rooted/optimized R2 release ROM. I don't want to lose s-off or root, but I like having a more "stock" rom as this is my only phone.
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Does this have the insecure boot.img? What about the hboot version?
I'm currently unlocked and s-off, running UndeadK9's "stock" deodexed/rooted/optimized R2 release ROM. I don't want to lose s-off or root, but I like having a more "stock" rom as this is my only phone.
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this zip is the OTA rooted with busybox and deodexed nothing more, there is no radio included or no hboot included, i just rooted my MyTouch yesterday and did the whole s-off thing, im running this now becuase me a jkilo go back to the shift forums so you will be all good man just make sure you do a full wipe
I noticed that the Clock was taken out, which is the only reason why I even use stock sense. is there a reason for that?
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I noticed that the Clock was taken out, which is the only reason why I even use stock sense. is there a reason for that?
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I told him about it yesterday, he took it out on accident or something.
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I told him about it yesterday, he took it out on accident or something.
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yeah its all being worked out now as much as possible, i mean between work and family that is.
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I cant edit the build prop at all. If I do it won't boot. Does this have unsecure boot.img by chance?
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AndroidBotx said:
I cant edit the build prop at all. If I do it won't boot. Does this have unsecure boot.img by chance?
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What are you trying to edit, and to what? I'm almost sure the boot.img is unsecured
#edit#
I just used root explorer and changed my VM heap and rebooted fine
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AndroidBotx said:
I cant edit the build prop at all. If I do it won't boot. Does this have unsecure boot.img by chance?
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I know Daniel60104's ROM does have the unsecure boot.img, not sure on this one.
On a side note, has anyone tried flashing the radio update that accompanied this release? I know that radio is a no-go for older ROMS, but since it was designed with this release, no word yet how it works with a rooted ROM.
Anyone noticed battery life improvement on this stock version? I've been using this for a week now and I can say there's a big difference compare to the older version. I am using the non-debloat (stock). Another thing is I have yet to experience the random warm battery issue that I've been experiencing from older stock based roms.
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Anyone noticed battery life improvement on this stock version? I've been using this for a week now and I can say there's a big difference compare to the older version. I am using the non-debloat (stock). Another thing is I have yet to experience the random warm battery issue that I've been experiencing from older stock based roms.
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I have noticed much better battery performance with this stock ROM, as well. I'm using Daniel's stock, rooted ROM, and I ran Bloater to take out the things I didn't want (like TMobileTV, TeleNAV, QIK). This ROM runs very quick, smooth. I'm still wondering about the newer radio, though I'm hesitant to flash it because I can't afford to screw up this phone. This is my ONLY phone, it has to work.
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I have noticed much better battery performance with this stock ROM, as well. I'm using Daniel's stock, rooted ROM, and I ran Bloater to take out the things I didn't want (like TMobileTV, TeleNAV, QIK). This ROM runs very quick, smooth. I'm still wondering about the newer radio, though I'm hesitant to flash it because I can't afford to screw up this phone. This is my ONLY phone, it has to work.
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As long as the Md5 matches your safe, just follow the instructions one at a time, like read all the way through them once and make sure you understand the steps, then go back and start the process, that's it the phone handles the rest...BUT its still scary I understand that, Hell I've had my own EVO Shift ROM for about 10 months and i still use the stock 2.2 radio on that phone
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strapped365 said:
As long as the Md5 matches your safe, just follow the instructions one at a time, like read all the way through them once and make sure you understand the steps, then go back and start the process, that's it the phone handles the rest...BUT its still scary I understand that, Hell I've had my own EVO Shift ROM for about 10 months and i still use the stock 2.2 radio on that phone
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Given that I'm running 1.55.531.3, S-OFF and rooted, with the original stock radio, and everything is working splendidly (wi-fi, bluetooth, camera, gps, etc.), I'm not gonna mess with it for now.
I'm interested to see what HTC comes out with since they halted the 1.55.531.3 OTA update due to "performance issues". When they restart, I wonder if it will be a different version, for instance.
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Given that I'm running 1.55.531.3, S-OFF and rooted, with the original stock radio, and everything is working splendidly (wi-fi, bluetooth, camera, gps, etc.), I'm not gonna mess with it for now.
I'm interested to see what HTC comes out with since they halted the 1.55.531.3 OTA update due to "performance issues". When they restart, I wonder if it will be a different version, for instance.
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Well them performance issues can and will be addressed asap, its all about tweaking the ROM, we had major Sense reloads on the evo shift so we learned to allocate more memory here rather than there, and once a ROM was odexed/scripted/opted they flat out flew.
When it comes to the radio on my DoubleShot i will probably never change the radio cause if it aint broke dont fix it
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[Q] Hi. I'm a noob, with a lg g2x

Yep. I'm a noob, i admit it.
I know nothing about what i'm doing (yet) but i'm not a complete noob with computers.
I understand flashing is basically changing the firmware/OS in the phone.
So i need help getting started, and a few questions answered.
First off, I'm a T-mobile myfamily user, with an unlocked tmobile/att phone.(lg G2x P999dw i believe)
Will rooting it screw up my service, or will t-mobile never know the difference?
Is there some Up-to-date easy root? and up to date version of the 2.3.3 software for it?
most of the posts i find are from a year ago or more.. i don't like things to be that far out of date..
Is it going to make me have to re-install all my apps? I have a couple gigs worth on my phone and SD card, it would be a pain to get them back. (including my progress on sims freeplay )
To start i'm interested in just rooting with the version i already have(to get rid of most of the ads in free games/apps ) .. but i see there's a lot of builds out there, is there a stable android ICS for my phone, if i decided i wanted to try it out? (linked to the safe/easy flash/root question above)
The last question was because i don't like being left behind, this phone is a lot of fun with 3d games, why haven't they updated the version of android it's running? or does someone know that an update for this phone is coming?
i also want to know what apps are safe to remove. Like.. is the t-mobile my account removable? I don't use it, it's for standard t-mobile, not "myfamily" (Walmart) , and i login through the website to check my bill. .so it's not needed.
Also, the facebook and twitter apps are useless to me, i don't do "social networks"
Sorry if this seems like a lot, but feel free to quote and slice it into smaller parts. I'll be adding this page to my bookmarks and checking it often (daily or more) and try to respond posts. As well, i'm going to post an image of my phone info from the phone itself
Please go easy on me, I'm not a linux user, so i don't have full grasp of what i'm doing.
IIRC there's a dedicated thread about rooting and all. You should check it out.
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Eve_brea said:
Yep. I'm a noob, i admit it.
I know nothing about what i'm doing (yet) but i'm not a complete noob with computers.
I understand flashing is basically changing the firmware/OS in the phone.
So i need help getting started, and a few questions answered.
First off, I'm a T-mobile myfamily user, with an unlocked tmobile/att phone.(lg G2x P999dw i believe)
Will rooting it screw up my service, or will t-mobile never know the difference?
Is there some Up-to-date easy root? and up to date version of the 2.3.3 software for it?
most of the posts i find are from a year ago or more.. i don't like things to be that far out of date..
Is it going to make me have to re-install all my apps? I have a couple gigs worth on my phone and SD card, it would be a pain to get them back. (including my progress on sims freeplay )
To start i'm interested in just rooting with the version i already have(to get rid of most of the ads in free games/apps ) .. but i see there's a lot of builds out there, is there a stable android ICS for my phone, if i decided i wanted to try it out? (linked to the safe/easy flash/root question above)
The last question was because i don't like being left behind, this phone is a lot of fun with 3d games, why haven't they updated the version of android it's running? or does someone know that an update for this phone is coming?
i also want to know what apps are safe to remove. Like.. is the t-mobile my account removable? I don't use it, it's for standard t-mobile, not "myfamily" (Walmart) , and i login through the website to check my bill. .so it's not needed.
Also, the facebook and twitter apps are useless to me, i don't do "social networks"
Sorry if this seems like a lot, but feel free to quote and slice it into smaller parts. I'll be adding this page to my bookmarks and checking it often (daily or more) and try to respond posts. As well, i'm going to post an image of my phone info from the phone itself
Please go easy on me, I'm not a linux user, so i don't have full grasp of what i'm doing.
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Rooting won't effect your plan, sometimes depending on the rom you many lost a bar or gain a bar with your signal... But so much as of a stable ICS rom, I'm running Hellfire Sandwich 1.7 (dirty version) and it is very stable and smooth... Also so much as having to reinstall all your apps and data, you can get Titanium Backup from the Play Store it will backup all apps plus the data that goes along with the app and after you flash a new rom just restore the backup from Titanium Backup and your good to go
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Eve_brea said:
Yep. I'm a noob, i admit it.
I know nothing about what i'm doing (yet) but i'm not a complete noob with computers.
I understand flashing is basically changing the firmware/OS in the phone.
So i need help getting started, and a few questions answered.
First off, I'm a T-mobile myfamily user, with an unlocked tmobile/att phone.(lg G2x P999dw i believe)
Will rooting it screw up my service, or will t-mobile never know the difference?
Is there some Up-to-date easy root? and up to date version of the 2.3.3 software for it?
most of the posts i find are from a year ago or more.. i don't like things to be that far out of date..
Is it going to make me have to re-install all my apps? I have a couple gigs worth on my phone and SD card, it would be a pain to get them back. (including my progress on sims freeplay )
To start i'm interested in just rooting with the version i already have(to get rid of most of the ads in free games/apps ) .. but i see there's a lot of builds out there, is there a stable android ICS for my phone, if i decided i wanted to try it out? (linked to the safe/easy flash/root question above)
The last question was because i don't like being left behind, this phone is a lot of fun with 3d games, why haven't they updated the version of android it's running? or does someone know that an update for this phone is coming?
i also want to know what apps are safe to remove. Like.. is the t-mobile my account removable? I don't use it, it's for standard t-mobile, not "myfamily" (Walmart) , and i login through the website to check my bill. .so it's not needed.
Also, the facebook and twitter apps are useless to me, i don't do "social networks"
Sorry if this seems like a lot, but feel free to quote and slice it into smaller parts. I'll be adding this page to my bookmarks and checking it often (daily or more) and try to respond posts. As well, i'm going to post an image of my phone info from the phone itself
Please go easy on me, I'm not a linux user, so i don't have full grasp of what i'm doing.
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First, rooting is kinda an inside joke around here. We don't root the g2x, we Nvflash CWM 5020, 5028, 5813, your choice here. Then the first thing you do after this is make a nandroid back up. After this, if you are in fact on the march baseband, just flash either kwes rooted stock or buru's mildly tweaked stock. The roms come rooted. With the nvflashed cwm, you really need to f up to brick the g2x, it's almost unbrickable after Nvflash, almost. About our threads, where are you reading the year plus old threads? Most of our threads are current here. Any questions, you could pm just about anyone on these boards and they'll help you.
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there lies the issue , people go back to all the technical jargon, when i have no idea what i'm doing yet.
I paid 220 bucks for this phone, and currently have no money to buy another, so i'd rather not brick it.
if nobody can sorta.. hold my hand, then i may just stay how i am.
Use this to flash clockworkmod recovery. It includes instructions. Also check out the FAQ and stickies at the top of the dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Find the rom you want to use, save it on ur SD card and remember where it is. (If it isn't a stock rom you will also have to download/flash gapps (Google apps).
Once u install cwm (from the above link), boot into cwm holding power and volume down till u get past the LG boot screen. Then go to backup/restore. Back up ur current rom. Then wipe data and cach. And then depending on your baseband, install zip with new rom from SD.
This is pretty much the jist of it.. when I was looking into it, I researched for weeks before I even asked a question, so I could understand all this geek speak.
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see? this is what i mean, that thread is from mid 2011.. almost a year ago.
i want to be sure i'm using the newest , most stable, of everything
I also don't want to lose my apps, or their data.
If you just want to just root the firmware you have right now then you can forget about Clockwork Recovery and simply refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661657
The link above contains two easy, newbie-friendly programs to root your phone. I do have a bias toward the one I posted only because it doesn't ask you to install unrelated apps while you root (it does, however, ask for a donation). Before you root, go to Settings > Applications > Development and check "USB Debugging".
If you want to install a custom firmware then you can follow instructions for Clockwork Recovery (this thread was updated about a month ago and contains the latest versions of Clockwork Recovery).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054492
If that's too hard then you can use the thread rbryant1983 pointed to as that method is still relevant. After you install Clockwork Recovery then we can help you from there in installing custom firmware.
Everything you do is at your own risk.
Eve_brea said:
see? this is what i mean, that thread is from mid 2011.. almost a year ago.
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Tga updates his threads. His last update was 4/28/2012... less than a month ago..
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rbryant1983 said:
Tga updates his threads. His last update was 4/28/2012... less than a month ago..
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Ahh, didn't even notice that. There you go, an up-to-date thread.
Your PC, is it Windows or Mac?
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pc, windows 7
Hey buddy, I told you that you could pm almost anyone for help. If you need help, PM me, i work here, that should be sufficient I'm not trying to mess you around.
[email protected]
This is the guide I used: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-image-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
It gets no more simple than that. There is a set of explicit instructions WITH video..
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Hm. The only titanium backup i see that's free says rooted phone. I don't have money for the other right now..
Private Pyle said:
Ahh, didn't even notice that. There you go, an up-to-date thread.
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Most of the ROM threads that you'll see at the top of the Dev forums are up to date. Pay no mind to when the thread was started, because most developers just update the download links in the original post (op) to the lastest version of his or her rom. Also read through each ROM's thread for more information and not just the OP. You can view logs of changes and updates made to the rom, as well as get feedback on stability and bugs with the rom from users who have actually tried it.
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mustangtim49 said:
First, rooting is kinda an inside joke around here. We don't root the g2x, we Nvflash CWM 5020, 5028, 5813, your choice here. Then the first thing you do after this is make a nandroid back up. After this, if you are in fact on the march baseband, just flash either kwes rooted stock or buru's mildly tweaked stock. The roms come rooted. With the nvflashed cwm, you really need to f up to brick the g2x, it's almost unbrickable after Nvflash, almost. About our threads, where are you reading the year plus old threads? Most of our threads are current here. Any questions, you could pm just about anyone on these boards and they'll help you.
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For your information Mr. Stang, my G2x is rooted! Bahahahaha
hey mine too and running ics owains 77 with new baseband. g2x is the way to go
So. I got all this figured out. Tried a few roms. I've been using Eaglesblood for a bit now... they're supposed to be making a 4.1 port... but the one for my phone is only alpha, and crashed a lot when i tried it..
I wish it was easy to switch roms without losing apps.
oh, and eaglesblood 4.0.1 or whatever it is doesn't do the "auto-download apps fro mgoogle" thing. I had to use app backup-restore, several times... doing too many at once made the thing crash.
Eve_brea said:
So. I got all this figured out. Tried a few roms. I've been using Eaglesblood for a bit now... they're supposed to be making a 4.1 port... but the one for my phone is only alpha, and crashed a lot when i tried it..
I wish it was easy to switch roms without losing apps.
oh, and eaglesblood 4.0.1 or whatever it is doesn't do the "auto-download apps fro mgoogle" thing. I had to use app backup-restore, several times... doing too many at once made the thing crash.
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Try paranoidandroid ICS or JB build 12 or build 7 respectively. Its alot better than the EGB brand.
Buy TitaniumPro from market. It helps to backup user apps thru it so that you don't have to manually install evrything back.
cricketAC said:
Try paranoidandroid ICS or JB build 12 or build 7 respectively. Its alot better than the EGB brand.
Buy TitaniumPro from market. It helps to backup user apps thru it so that you don't have to manually install evrything back.
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I also find that when i install a new app, process system gets the whole "wait/ report/ close" pop up... that strikes me as bad.
No. I'm not buying titanium pro when app backup-restore does the same thing for free.
and where do i get said jb build 7?

deleting bloatware...

Did a search in the GSIII forums and couldn't find what I was looking for, so I am asking here.
I am rooted/unlocked on my GSIII running 4.1.2, and want to delete the bloatware I feel is unnecessary. Is there a way for me to do this without flashing a new ROM or kernel? If so, how, and if not, is there a stable glitch-free stock ROM out there that someone made that already has the bloatware removed?
If not, I will just flash Jelly Beans v.15 and call it a day.
Do you utilize OTAs? If so don't delete bloatware, you won't be able to OTA, freeze the apps. If you don't care about OTAs I use Titanium backup pro to delete system apps.
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m-cat said:
Do you utilize OTAs? If so don't delete bloatware, you won't be able to OTA, freeze the apps. If you don't care about OTAs I use Titanium backup pro to delete system apps.
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Ah, ok. This is the first phone I am rooting/unlocking, and until now I have used all the OTA updates. I guess I have to make a choice, and proceed from there. Might as well flash a ROM if I'm not gonna use OTA, right?
I would never take an OTA. Just flash a ROM and be done with it. An OTA has the potential to lock your phone up where you will never be able to flash anything again. The ROMS will give you the same update with a lot of added options without that risk.
HHF2 said:
I would never take an OTA. Just flash a ROM and be done with it. An OTA has the potential to lock your phone up where you will never be able to flash anything again. The ROMS will give you the same update with a lot of added options without that risk.
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Damn, ok... I always trusted them since they came straight from the carrier.
a.demarco said:
I am rooted/unlocked on my GSIII running 4.1.2, and want to delete the bloatware I feel is unnecessary. Is there a way for me to do this without flashing a new ROM or kernel? If so, how, and if not, is there a stable glitch-free stock ROM out there that someone made that already has the bloatware removed?
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You can use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall bloat. I recommend freezing, since you can enable something if needed.
Or you can flash CleanROM. No bloat, and very stable.
I believe I found this list on XDA:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTvctlW89DtdC1qVUlLeVFTV3ZOdUtDclpBdVRQOUE#gid=0
I tried doing this before, using the list from the last post.
I found that the best solution (if you want to keep TouchWiz and all) was CleanROM. Fast, free of bloatware, and not changed too much from stock.
Cauchon said:
I tried doing this before, using the list from the last post.
I found that the best solution (if you want to keep TouchWiz and all) was CleanROM. Fast, free of bloatware, and not changed too much from stock.
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LOVE CleanROM. I tried a few others (Beans, Smooth...) for a few days each, but CleanROM is hands down the best ROM I've ever used. It's my DD and I haven't regretted that decision ever.
jessicahll said:
LOVE CleanROM. I tried a few others (Beans, Smooth...) for a few days each, but CleanROM is hands down the best ROM I've ever used. It's my DD and I haven't regretted that decision ever.
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are there any hiccups/glitches with cleanROM? and do i need to (or should i) flash a kernel along with it?
a.demarco said:
are there any hiccups/glitches with cleanROM? and do i need to (or should i) flash a kernel along with it?
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I haven't found any hiccups. I've been using it since January.
Don't ask me about kernels, though. Lol. I know enough about rooting to possibly get me into trouble, and I can flash ROMs, but start talking about kernels and I get cross eyed.
Oh, and I flashed Andy Bones' AOSP Theme. I'd had Kinda Crap Mods, but it wasn't compatible with CR6. It may be now. It's like the best of both worlds: CleanROM gives you Touch Wiz, the mods gives you the Vanilla Android look that I prefer (because the colors of the Touch Wiz notification bar are UGLY).
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