Is there a way to S-OFF the desire s with HBOOT 2.00.2002 S-ON?
Thanks
You could probably flash eng hboot and then use revolutionary..... I think.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk
I think that you can OFFICIALLY unlock your bootloader (S-OFF), never tried so not completely sure that Desire S is supported - see here
amidabuddha said:
I think that you can OFFICIALLY unlock your bootloader (S-OFF), never tried so not completely sure that Desire S is supported - see here
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If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
tpbklake said:
If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
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Nice but useless Maybe best for newbies. These days our forum is flooded with questions about errors, bricks, hboot replacement, etc. including one from myself...
revolutionary doesn't state that it supports this hboot on their site??
I just wanted to know because if i install the legit ota for sense 3 it will reflash my bootloader to the locked new 1. and ofc i would want to S-OFF in again!
Eclipse_Droid said:
revolutionary doesn't state that it supports this hboot on their site??
I just wanted to know because if i install the legit ota for sense 3 it will reflash my bootloader to the locked new 1. and ofc i would want to S-OFF in again!
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why do you need the stock OTA, since the custom ROMs are much more optimized??? And soon here will be a rooted version of the Stock I believe
amidabuddha said:
why do you need the stock OTA, since the custom ROMs are much more optimized??? And soon here will be a rooted version of the Stock I believe
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i just like the idea of stock sense 3! but ofc i still use titanium to remove all the bloatware that i don't use or need. then i make a nand backup
thats the way i do it with all the roms i use. Ive got quite a few nands to switch between depending on my mood
I doubt revolutionary would work. You could go into the IRC and ask, I read someone unlocked the boot loader by going on htcdev.com
tpbklake said:
If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
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With the fastboot you can flash an Engineering Bootloader as well. So it is a way to S-OFF more or less.
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Hello
How to enable S-OFF on android 2.3.5 with HBOOT 2.00.0002 ?
I'm unlock only bootloader: htcdev.com/bootloader but HBOOT is still S-ON
Kamil
Kamil1987 said:
Hello
How to enable S-OFF on android 2.3.5 with HBOOT 2.00.0002 ?
I'm unlock only bootloader: htcdev.com/bootloader but HBOOT is still S-ON
Kamil
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no method as of now, lets just wait (and wish) revolutionary will support the new hboot to s-off
how do you unlock your bootloader on htcdev.com/bootloader
because the htc desire s isn't listed at the list with the supported devices?
pattrick1803 said:
how do you unlock your bootloader on htcdev.com/bootloader
because the htc desire s isn't listed at the list with the supported devices?
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Not supported on smartphones list but unlock working
really? after the unlock ist your phone *unlocked* but security is still on and you can't change radio or simlock, right? does it works with the new hboot from the ota update with sense 3.0?
@Skanob
How you install PreRooted_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.4_deodexed-signed
and 4EXT Recovery with HBOOT 2.00.0002 and without root S-OFF ?
@kamil
he can install it after he unlocked his phone with the tool from htcdev
your phone is unlocked and security s-on, but he has gut lifted restirctions on boot, recovery and system. so he can flash an new rom, but not a new radio because the radio ist still lock
Screen: img405.imageshack.us/img405/6774/img20111022001.jpg
I never changed my radio and simlock Unlock working on 2.00.0002 HBOOT. How I do install a new ROM ?
Patrick is right. HTCdev site doesen't s-off your phone, but it removes the lock so you can flash recovery and roms, but not radios ans sim unlock. Find the clockworkmod image file for desire s, and flash using PG88IMG method in bootloader. I'm not 100% sure, but seems like the only method.
@kamil:
you have to flash a new rom with recovery, like the clockworkmod.
how do you get the clockworkmod?
you need root (for example gingerbreak)
then you have to install the rom manager from the market
and then you have to install clockworkmod with the rom manager
Follow my instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314629
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
@Skanob Thanks for tge tip, you're getting really helpful. I'd thank you, but i'm out of town and tapatalk app has no thanks button.
Just trying to get our fellow members on the right track.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
shrome99 said:
Patrick is right. HTCdev site doesen't s-off your phone, but it removes the lock so you can flash recovery and roms, but not radios ans sim unlock. Find the clockworkmod image file for desire s, and flash using PG88IMG method in bootloader. I'm not 100% sure, but seems like the only method.
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After unlocking with HTC tool is possible return to stock rom, locked and without custom recovery? Maybe flashing original 2.10 RUU?
Inviato dal mio HTC Desire S usando Tapatalk
shrome99 said:
Patrick is right. HTCdev site doesen't s-off your phone, but it removes the lock so you can flash recovery and roms, but not radios ans sim unlock. Find the clockworkmod image file for desire s, and flash using PG88IMG method in bootloader. I'm not 100% sure, but seems like the only method.
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is it possible to root my mobile after that method?
Once you have CWM or 4ext recovery, just download and flash superuser. Easily find it via a google search.
but how I install them to root my mobile if it requires rooted phone
The only way for you to get S-OFF again is to downgrade first.
Check my guide:
[GUIDE] Official HBOOT 2.00.0002 downgrade (My success story)
pattrick1803 said:
how do you unlock your bootloader on htcdev.com/bootloader
because the htc desire s isn't listed at the list with the supported devices?
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Obviously you do not like to read: the list is UNSUPPORTED devices
The following 2011 models (Launched prior to September, 2011) will be supported on this web site. Devices in GREEN are currently unlockable, check back often for updates on the unlock status of additional devices:
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and all the listed devices below are in GREEN
@skanob: i don't understand you
the htc desire s isn't in the list and isn't green, so it's theoretically not supported!?
Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
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You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
Hi thanks for the reply,
so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? I will do some more reading before I take the plunge as I do not want to brick my new phone
Cheers Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
...
so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? ...
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Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
amidabuddha said:
Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
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What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
dontjudgemekk said:
What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
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AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
amidabuddha said:
AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
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Just in case I was to send my device for a warranty fix or such!
Unlocking the bootloader at htcdev will void your warranty.
I am patiently waiting for May 2012 for my warranty to be over and then I will unlock my boot loader..
As said the htcdev unlock void your warranty, it will send the info of your phone to HTC.
You can do the HBOOT downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 and use Revolutionary to get S-OFF and if you need the warranty you can use eng hboot and flash a new RUU to get back to stock and S-ON.
amidabuddha said:
You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
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please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
riaan0010 said:
please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
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Check the sticky posts on DesireS forums, you will find all you need
Swyped from my Desire S
Let the ads those who succeeded in HBoot Revolucionary 6.98.1002 S-OFF to get back to Hboot 2.00.0002 S-ON.
Some write to read this post and this post, last but nothing concrete.
Thank you.
i have a desire s rooted with htcdev tool, so still s-on, but rooted. i have some questions: how can i bring it from s-on to s-off? because i saw it's easier to manage custom rom.
i'd like to know also how to return to stock rom, 'cause on "androidiani.it" they told me it's different between s-on and s-off devices.
thank you for your help and excuseme for my english, i'm italian and i don't speak it very well...
Well the only difference with S-on and S-off is
1. Need to use fast boot to flash the kernel(boot.img)
2. Cannot change radio, but according to many, you rarely need to do so.
Agree a bit of more work, but it's not that hard with all the command listed.
When I root it well be HTC Dev unlock..
Swyped from my HTC Desire S....
embad said:
i have a desire s rooted with htcdev tool, so still s-on, but rooted. i have some questions: how can i bring it from s-on to s-off? because i saw it's easier to manage custom rom.
i'd like to know also how to return to stock rom, 'cause on "androidiani.it" they told me it's different between s-on and s-off devices.
thank you for your help and excuseme for my english, i'm italian and i don't speak it very well...
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i personally think s-off is a lot more straight forward and easier then unlocked s-on my friend has a htcdev unlocked rooted desire s and he is always complaining about flashing new ROMS where as i'm s-off with 4ext touch and its a simple process of two taps to install the rom
heres what i used (Revolutionary - zergRush local root 2.2/2.3) if you decide to s-off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916
embad said:
i have a desire s rooted with htcdev tool, so still s-on, but rooted. i have some questions: how can i bring it from s-on to s-off? because i saw it's easier to manage custom rom.
i'd like to know also how to return to stock rom, 'cause on "androidiani.it" they told me it's different between s-on and s-off devices.
thank you for your help and excuseme for my english, i'm italian and i don't speak it very well...
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Not to sound like a periwinkle but why do people keep using HTCDEV? I think someone should really put up a sticky stating "Avoid HTCDEV at all cost". It's not as if you really retain your warranty thereafter ...
when i tried that method i got to step 4. then i got a permission denied error when i tried
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp/
./zergRush
I had a goldcard in at the time, any ideas what could be wrong?
I really dont want to use HTCdeaf
Zergrush worked for my X8. Oneclick seems easier on the Desire S. I'm not conversant with that error & can't really reproduce it at the moment.
embad said:
i have a desire s rooted with htcdev tool, so still s-on, but rooted. i have some questions: how can i bring it from s-on to s-off? because i saw it's easier to manage custom rom.
i'd like to know also how to return to stock rom, 'cause on "androidiani.it" they told me it's different between s-on and s-off devices.
thank you for your help and excuseme for my english, i'm italian and i don't speak it very well...
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Exactly how did you root i just did the unlock but i cant find a way that will work to root and still keep this stock rom that i like
Supermatt01 said:
Exactly how did you root i just did the unlock but i cant find a way that will work to root and still keep this stock rom that i like
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fastboot flash recovery recovery_of_your_choice.img, boot to recovery, download su.zip (Superuser, find the latest version), flash through recovery. Voila - rooted.
Ok! Rooted my droid :-D unlock bootloader htcdev style. Flash cwm and install suZip from mmc. Amazing how easy it was ;-)
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5
I've just got a new sensation with s-on and h-boot 1.27.000 and official vodafone ics firmware.
I wanted to frlash arhd 6.6.2, but as long as I got there I have to s.off the phone...
But I cannot s-off the phone if it's h-boot 1.27.0000, so what do I have to do?
Search...read...wait
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I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
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| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
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Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: HTC Sensation Z710e (pyramid-1.27.0000, Android: 4.0.3, ROM v
ersion: 3.32.162.11)
Your device: pyramid, with HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
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In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
zooster said:
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
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Hi,
You are right.
1.27.000 is not currently supported.
You have to wait until it is...
No,there is no eta.
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
zooster said:
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,you can root and install CWM.
But you can only install ROMS with a 3.32 base(latest ICS)
So,6.6.2 is OK
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
zooster said:
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
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Hi,
Try THIS ONE
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
Youre gonna have to unlock your bootloader by using htc's official method (google it). Then youll be able to install CWM and whatever else. There are limitations, theres a good guide in the development section about htc official bootloader unlocker. Read that before attempting.
zooster said:
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,try it.
malybru said:
Hi,
Yes,try it.
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Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
i have same problem, im new to all this but want to root my phone. I have updated to the new ice cream sandwich through the vodafone over air update. i have looked through step guides but i dont know where to start! i have s-on so how do i get this off or do i need to?
Thanks
zooster said:
Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
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Yes you will have to use the HTC Dev method right now if you want to flash a custom ICS ROM being as those are the only ones you will be able to flash with the Hboot you have. But know this ahead of time the HYC De. Unlock is very different then the Revolutionary unlock. Click the link in my sig to learn mote about the HTc Dev unlock and what it allows you to do. But if I was you I would just wait until Revolutionary supports Hboot 1.27.0000, or someone comes up with a Hboot downgrade for the Sensation cause the HTC Dev method does not fully unlock all portitions except the radio portition like Revolutionary does. Plus it leaves evidence your bootloader has been unlocked so HTC can say your warranty is void. Check out this post to as it gives a little more insight on HTC Dev unlock.
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
zooster said:
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
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To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
T-Macgnolia said:
To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
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Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
Jalkren said:
Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
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Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
malybru said:
Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
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Sure, exploit H.Boot 1.27.0000 for S-Off is revolution, new model of HTC phone is same like HTC_One
****ing S-ON policy HTC because you total locked us
And that is why HTC always following behind Samsung nowadays
I'm waiting XDA revolution
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and new nothing about rooting until a few days ago...quickly discovered the fact that Revolution does not support 1.27.
I unlocked with HTC DEV, ran recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.9-pyramid.img using Fastboot CLI.
After that I backed up my stock Vodafone ICS ROM using CWM then switched to the XDA guide for rooting with su-2.3.6.3 and followed rest of XDA guides for installing a ROM (really useful guides - Thanks!!)
Within an hour I had gone from stock Vodafone ICS to Virtuous Inquisition-v4.0.1
I'll admit I got hooked up on flashing recovery and was given some guidance by a friendly soul but figured the rest out from this forum..
My friend have a HTC SENSATION ICS, S-ON, UNROOTED.
He installed custom work mod recovery and then root via CWM with S-ON (if you can believe that)
Now, when i`m trying to use juoponut bear S-OFF , controlbear.exe tell me that Second Backup failed ...... press any key to exit.
What i have to do?
You friend used HTCDev.com to unlock his bootloader and this is how he was able to install Clockwork Mod Recovery. But when you use HTC Dev it only unlocks the bootloader and gives you write permissions to the system partition, recovery partition, and the boot partition. It does not give you full S-OFF. Now if you want to S-OFF his device you will first have to undo the HTC Dev unlock. Now you can find instructions on how to do this at HTCDev.com. Once you have done this you can then use JuopunutBear to S-OFF hiIs device.
T-Macgnolia said:
You friend used HTCDev.com to unlock his bootloader and this is how he was able to install Clockwork Mod Recovery. But when you use HTC Dev it only unlocks the bootloader and gives you write permissions to the system partition, recovery partition, and the boot partition. It does not give you full S-OFF. Now if you want to S-OFF his device you will first have to undo the HTC Dev unlock. Now you can find instructions on how to do this at HTCDev.com. Once you have done this you can then use JuopunutBear to S-OFF hiIs device.
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I'm pretty sure the first version of jupuntobear needed htcdev unlock, so he may not need to relock
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Can I install a custom ROM without FULL S-OFF ? onyl htc dev unlocked
razvanwin95 said:
Can I install a custom ROM without FULL S-OFF ? onyl htc dev unlocked
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Yes. Follow this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app
heavy_metal_man said:
I'm pretty sure the first version of jupuntobear needed htcdev unlock, so he may not need to relock
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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You are very correct, the first version of JuopunutBear required you to be HTC Dev unlocked. But the currentveraion does not require it. Now to the best of my knowledge you have to have a locked bootloader to use Juopunutbear to S-OFF.
At the OP, yes you can flash ROMs while still S-ON, but you can not flash radios, rule, splash screens, orfirmwares while you are only HTC Dev unlocked. The guide that was linked will walk you through how to flash while S-ON but just remember to use fasboot to flash theboot.img or use 4EXT Recovery and enable Smart Flash.