Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
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You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
Hi thanks for the reply,
so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? I will do some more reading before I take the plunge as I do not want to brick my new phone
Cheers Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
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so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? ...
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Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
amidabuddha said:
Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
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What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
dontjudgemekk said:
What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
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AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
amidabuddha said:
AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
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Just in case I was to send my device for a warranty fix or such!
Unlocking the bootloader at htcdev will void your warranty.
I am patiently waiting for May 2012 for my warranty to be over and then I will unlock my boot loader..
As said the htcdev unlock void your warranty, it will send the info of your phone to HTC.
You can do the HBOOT downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 and use Revolutionary to get S-OFF and if you need the warranty you can use eng hboot and flash a new RUU to get back to stock and S-ON.
amidabuddha said:
You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
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please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
riaan0010 said:
please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
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Check the sticky posts on DesireS forums, you will find all you need
Swyped from my Desire S
Let the ads those who succeeded in HBoot Revolucionary 6.98.1002 S-OFF to get back to Hboot 2.00.0002 S-ON.
Some write to read this post and this post, last but nothing concrete.
Thank you.
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Hi,
I have a Desire S:
- hboot 2.00.0002
- 2.3.5
- S-ON
What is the best and safe way to S-OFF and root this device?
Thanks
I dont understand, its possible root and install a custom ROM without S-OFF?
Just htcdev to unlock your phone
no way to s-off
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
s-on
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
swiftfraser said:
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
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Y y yes, although you can only flash them via fastboot with HTCdev unlock.
foX2delta said:
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
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I am a little scared to downgrade, are many steps....
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22271797&postcount=11
hboot 2.00.0002 will be supported by Revolutionary? If it will be i prefer wait instead of do something wrong and damage my beauty.
@Fredericosilva
It may be supported down the line..... Not a guarantee though.
Many steps..... not really.... Its up to you at the end of the day.
If you don't want to downgrade your hboot u can try this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
It'll leave your phone s-on, but you'll be root and you'll be able to flash roms.
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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Your DS was hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?
Non Branded?
I guess I will try it when I have time...
Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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it is possible to flash a custom rom, look at this tutorial i've posted before, you only have to do it via fastboot. I'm not sure about the kernel thing.
Fredericosilva said:
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
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you can flash custom roms, but you'll have to do it via fastboot. So it takes a bit more time. i'm not sure about other differences
I've just got a new sensation with s-on and h-boot 1.27.000 and official vodafone ics firmware.
I wanted to frlash arhd 6.6.2, but as long as I got there I have to s.off the phone...
But I cannot s-off the phone if it's h-boot 1.27.0000, so what do I have to do?
Search...read...wait
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
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| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
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Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: HTC Sensation Z710e (pyramid-1.27.0000, Android: 4.0.3, ROM v
ersion: 3.32.162.11)
Your device: pyramid, with HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
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In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
zooster said:
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
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Hi,
You are right.
1.27.000 is not currently supported.
You have to wait until it is...
No,there is no eta.
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
zooster said:
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,you can root and install CWM.
But you can only install ROMS with a 3.32 base(latest ICS)
So,6.6.2 is OK
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
zooster said:
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
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Hi,
Try THIS ONE
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
Youre gonna have to unlock your bootloader by using htc's official method (google it). Then youll be able to install CWM and whatever else. There are limitations, theres a good guide in the development section about htc official bootloader unlocker. Read that before attempting.
zooster said:
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,try it.
malybru said:
Hi,
Yes,try it.
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Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
i have same problem, im new to all this but want to root my phone. I have updated to the new ice cream sandwich through the vodafone over air update. i have looked through step guides but i dont know where to start! i have s-on so how do i get this off or do i need to?
Thanks
zooster said:
Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
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Yes you will have to use the HTC Dev method right now if you want to flash a custom ICS ROM being as those are the only ones you will be able to flash with the Hboot you have. But know this ahead of time the HYC De. Unlock is very different then the Revolutionary unlock. Click the link in my sig to learn mote about the HTc Dev unlock and what it allows you to do. But if I was you I would just wait until Revolutionary supports Hboot 1.27.0000, or someone comes up with a Hboot downgrade for the Sensation cause the HTC Dev method does not fully unlock all portitions except the radio portition like Revolutionary does. Plus it leaves evidence your bootloader has been unlocked so HTC can say your warranty is void. Check out this post to as it gives a little more insight on HTC Dev unlock.
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
zooster said:
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
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To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
T-Macgnolia said:
To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
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Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
Jalkren said:
Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
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Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
malybru said:
Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
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Sure, exploit H.Boot 1.27.0000 for S-Off is revolution, new model of HTC phone is same like HTC_One
****ing S-ON policy HTC because you total locked us
And that is why HTC always following behind Samsung nowadays
I'm waiting XDA revolution
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and new nothing about rooting until a few days ago...quickly discovered the fact that Revolution does not support 1.27.
I unlocked with HTC DEV, ran recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.9-pyramid.img using Fastboot CLI.
After that I backed up my stock Vodafone ICS ROM using CWM then switched to the XDA guide for rooting with su-2.3.6.3 and followed rest of XDA guides for installing a ROM (really useful guides - Thanks!!)
Within an hour I had gone from stock Vodafone ICS to Virtuous Inquisition-v4.0.1
I'll admit I got hooked up on flashing recovery and was given some guidance by a friendly soul but figured the rest out from this forum..
I have sensation stock ICS with unlocked bootloader with htcdev and S-ON 1.27. I tried to root but cant. Please some guide or help.
Imperatorpg said:
I have sensation stock ICS with unlocked bootloader with htcdev and S-ON 1.27. I tried to root but cant. Please some guide or help.
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Search the development forum for a guide to S-OFF, ROOT, SUPER CID.
You basically need to install a custom recovery and then install superuser. (Search the thread for superuser 3.0.7)
There is now also aparrently a way to unlock 1.27 hboot completely! (I haven't tested it personally but others have reported success!).
Hope this helps
Imperatorpg said:
I have sensation stock ICS with unlocked bootloader with htcdev and S-ON 1.27. I tried to root but cant. Please some guide or help.
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I successfully got S-OFF to hboot 1.27.0000 look, maybe information is useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612238&page=2
Thanks people, I tried to put PG58IMG on card but fastboot doesnt accept it, I dont know what to do.
Below is the details of my phone, I am not able to S-Off the phone, require help. I tried couple of things however gives me error.
Phone Details.
Saga Pvt ship S-on RL
Hboot – 2.00.0002
Radio – 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
johnyomair said:
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
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Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
rain987 said:
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
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I refered to a you tube video " How to S-off htc desire s" the first video that shows up. My phone is already rooted using the hdc dev kit, however when I am trying to do s-off the software gives just a message "Error". It also fails at signature.
do let me know what more information can I provide.
If you have a guide that I can try and share the results with you do send me that as well. I am new to rooting the phone, so sorry for not providing any info that is required.
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
ben_pyett said:
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Thanks will try the suggestion and let you know the results
505dv said:
Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
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My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
johnyomair said:
My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
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No, it's S-ON, but writable on /system partition due to HTCDev unlock. It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
Jack_R1 said:
It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
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Then please tell me why my Bootloader says:
*unlocked*
SAGA PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
S-OFF ... Security off
Rooting ... Grant root for the device, like su on linux
HTCDev unlock ... unlocks the bootloader
But its ok I just tried to help...
Then you can try to avoid confusion providing more detailed info, like:
"I have used XTC Clip to gain S-OFF, then used htcdev.com, without any particular reason, then got rooted by SuperOneClick"
Your previous post can mislead some non advanced users that SOC can provide S-OFF, without using additional tools.
Sent from my HTC Desire S
Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
Nope to upgrade your Radio you have to be S-OFF
Maybe it was shipped with S-OFF because I had a brandig first.
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
johnyomair said:
Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
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And you can flash radios only because you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it while you could have done whatever you wanted with it. And S-OFF is the only reason you can flash radios, and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything - just as it won't allow any non-S-OFF user to flash radios, and won't turn S-ON to S-OFF. But what do I know, I was just passing here.
c.m.b said:
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
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It is unlikely, but certainly possible. In the early days of Desire S development (back when we had to use the XTC-Clip hardware to obtain S-Off) there were some people who got their devices brand new already S-Off.
ok, back to the topic:
the simpliest way to gain s-off without xtc-clip is to downgrade the bootloader to HBOOT 0.98, and gain S-OFF with Revolutionary. After you did this you can run the latest ruu, which doesn't influence wether your s-off or s-on. Finally, you've got a device with hboot 2.02 and s-off.
After using revolutionary you are already S-OFF!
If you want to upgrade your HBOOT don't run a RUU AFAIK it could brick your device ... use this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
Do you know the differences between Radio HBOOT S-OFF root etc?
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app
Jack_R1 said:
....you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it
................and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything...........
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I have to disagree @Jack_R1 the unlock via htcdev wasn't completely useless as it managed to void his HTC warranty! :laugh: logging that fact with HTC in the process!
we can only try...........:silly:
Does it batter what version of HBOOT I have when unlocking my Desire S's bootloader through HTC Dev?
Thanks
deadphone99 said:
Does it batter what version of HBOOT I have when unlocking my Desire S's bootloader through HTC Dev?
Thanks
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What is ur hboot? U mite be able to use revolutionary to s-off. Much better in everyway
Also, If you unlock Bootloader, I highly recommend this one:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
You can flash ROMS which require HBOOT 2.x WITHOUT writing commands in ADB.
With HTCDev you can unlock bootloader on any HBOOT and keep S-ON but if you want to S-OFF and unlock you have to downgrade from 2.x.x to lower HBOOT and use Revolutionary.Then you can change HBOOT as you wish but you can brick your phone if something goes wrong.
There's great guides here for everything so do a serach. GL