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How to S-OFF HBOOT 2.00.2002???

Is there a way to S-OFF the desire s with HBOOT 2.00.2002 S-ON?
Thanks

You could probably flash eng hboot and then use revolutionary..... I think.
Swyped from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

I think that you can OFFICIALLY unlock your bootloader (S-OFF), never tried so not completely sure that Desire S is supported - see here

amidabuddha said:
I think that you can OFFICIALLY unlock your bootloader (S-OFF), never tried so not completely sure that Desire S is supported - see here
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If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.

tpbklake said:
If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
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Nice but useless Maybe best for newbies. These days our forum is flooded with questions about errors, bricks, hboot replacement, etc. including one from myself...

revolutionary doesn't state that it supports this hboot on their site??
I just wanted to know because if i install the legit ota for sense 3 it will reflash my bootloader to the locked new 1. and ofc i would want to S-OFF in again!

Eclipse_Droid said:
revolutionary doesn't state that it supports this hboot on their site??
I just wanted to know because if i install the legit ota for sense 3 it will reflash my bootloader to the locked new 1. and ofc i would want to S-OFF in again!
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why do you need the stock OTA, since the custom ROMs are much more optimized??? And soon here will be a rooted version of the Stock I believe

amidabuddha said:
why do you need the stock OTA, since the custom ROMs are much more optimized??? And soon here will be a rooted version of the Stock I believe
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i just like the idea of stock sense 3! but ofc i still use titanium to remove all the bloatware that i don't use or need. then i make a nand backup
thats the way i do it with all the roms i use. Ive got quite a few nands to switch between depending on my mood

I doubt revolutionary would work. You could go into the IRC and ask, I read someone unlocked the boot loader by going on htcdev.com

tpbklake said:
If you look at the threads in the HTC Sensation and EVO 3D forums, when you use the HTC procedure to Unlock the bootloader at the HTCDEV.com site, it does not change the security status to S-OFF, but you are able to flash a custom recovery and ROMs, but you need to do this using FASTBOOT commands.
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With the fastboot you can flash an Engineering Bootloader as well. So it is a way to S-OFF more or less.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

Hello!! Root

Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?

kleftisx said:
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
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You may still be able to receive updates but I wouldn't recommend it.
I believe that you're either S-ON, no-root and apply updates or S-OFF, root and NO updates!

Ok. But what is the best method to root my ds??
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

Gingerbreak or superoneclick. I prefer Gingerbreak because I found the whole process much quicker
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Im not sure if you are able to use the revolutionary tool to s-off your device, because it currently only supports HTC Desire S (saga) 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002 hboot versions, but not the 2.00..... (coming with android 2.3.5)
you might wanna check htcdev.com for the unroot

I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002

Search and you will find....
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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You need to go to the htcdev site and perform the hboot lock procedure. Search and you will find the post on how to do it.

htcdev method
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..

kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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moloto said:
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
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You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.

Locked radio
tpbklake said:
You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
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With all the respect, yes you can install custom rom with open hboot and you can gain a root(su) user rights, BUT if your rom is not compatible with your RADIO the you are doomed, your wifi, sd card, and another drivers may not be working, and in this case you are unable to overwrite the radio as the S(ecurity)-ON is locking right this. That was exactly my case, i installed S-ON original hboot from RUU 2.00.0002 and the newest Desire S ROM, but my wifi was not working and my sd was not accesible from pc, i went into recovery a tryied to flash RADIO image, but it was not possible, everytime the recovery was parsing the image and then just went back to bootloader main screen like nothing happend, this is because the RADIO is locked, i have tryied more imeges to be sure the first one was not corrupted, everytime the same result..

Still didn't find a way to root my DS.
Can anyone provide me a link to do this?

Go to http://www.htcdev.com press unlock bootloader and follow the instructions to s-off your device. (instead of all the files there, you will need only this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=727371&d=1316684239. Desire S is not at the supported devices, but it works great.)
It says "unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings" which means that it will reset all your phone settings I suppose. If anyone has tried this please inform us what we loose and if there is a better way for avoiding that.
@kleftisx p.m.to me in Greek if you didn't understand something!

EDIT: Misread post
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Root Desire S
i am gonna try it.
thanks

How to s-off and root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?

Hi,
I have a Desire S:
- hboot 2.00.0002
- 2.3.5
- S-ON
What is the best and safe way to S-OFF and root this device?
Thanks

I dont understand, its possible root and install a custom ROM without S-OFF?

Just htcdev to unlock your phone
no way to s-off
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA

@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.

s-on
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting

swiftfraser said:
Guys,
can you flash a custom kernel with s-on?
please respond this is the only thing keeping me from rooting
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Y y yes, although you can only flash them via fastboot with HTCdev unlock.

foX2delta said:
@Fredericosilva
Read some... and read some more...
If you wish to s-off then you need to downgrade to a supported hboot, search the general thread (search:downgrade) for how to.
If you wish to stay s-on and have most of the advantages of s-off (root/recovery/roms) then you need to use HTCdev, but your warranty could be voided.
To me the best way would be; downgrade, revolutionary to s-off, install 4ext recovery, and use it to install super user.
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I am a little scared to downgrade, are many steps....
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22271797&postcount=11
hboot 2.00.0002 will be supported by Revolutionary? If it will be i prefer wait instead of do something wrong and damage my beauty.

@Fredericosilva
It may be supported down the line..... Not a guarantee though.
Many steps..... not really.... Its up to you at the end of the day.

If you don't want to downgrade your hboot u can try this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
It'll leave your phone s-on, but you'll be root and you'll be able to flash roms.

So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?

I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on

Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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Your DS was hboot 2.00.0002 2.3.5?
Non Branded?
I guess I will try it when I have time...

Gormsen said:
I rooted my phone earlier this week using the unlock bootloader method that HTCdev provided, and then rooted my phone, still have S-ON. At first I was very excited, but as I began trying to do other stuff, like flashing the kernel to overclock, flashing a rom and such I found out that it was not possible to do while I still had S-ON. So i went back, locked the bootloader, downgraded the bootloader 0.98.0000 and then used the Revolutiony.io to get the S-OFF and unlock the bootloader. It worked like a charm, and the method described in the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20535265&postcount=26
is very easy to go by. It is, as mentioned earlier entirely up to you whether or not you want to do it. But I won't suggest waiting for Revolutionary to support the updated bootloader, since it might never happen and you'll end up growing weary knowing that you'll miss out all the fun you could have with a custom rom, overclocking and so on
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it is possible to flash a custom rom, look at this tutorial i've posted before, you only have to do it via fastboot. I'm not sure about the kernel thing.
Fredericosilva said:
So if I follow this guide what is the difference between this and do s-off?
I'll be able to install custom roms and install app that requiring root?
What the difference?
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you can flash custom roms, but you'll have to do it via fastboot. So it takes a bit more time. i'm not sure about other differences

Help with s-on and h-boot 1.27.0000

I've just got a new sensation with s-on and h-boot 1.27.000 and official vodafone ics firmware.
I wanted to frlash arhd 6.6.2, but as long as I got there I have to s.off the phone...
But I cannot s-off the phone if it's h-boot 1.27.0000, so what do I have to do?

Search...read...wait
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
=============================================
| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
=============================================
Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: HTC Sensation Z710e (pyramid-1.27.0000, Android: 4.0.3, ROM v
ersion: 3.32.162.11)
Your device: pyramid, with HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
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In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??

zooster said:
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
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Hi,
You are right.
1.27.000 is not currently supported.
You have to wait until it is...
No,there is no eta.

So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?

zooster said:
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,you can root and install CWM.
But you can only install ROMS with a 3.32 base(latest ICS)
So,6.6.2 is OK

Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...

zooster said:
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
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Hi,
Try THIS ONE

Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?

Youre gonna have to unlock your bootloader by using htc's official method (google it). Then youll be able to install CWM and whatever else. There are limitations, theres a good guide in the development section about htc official bootloader unlocker. Read that before attempting.

zooster said:
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,try it.

malybru said:
Hi,
Yes,try it.
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Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?

i have same problem, im new to all this but want to root my phone. I have updated to the new ice cream sandwich through the vodafone over air update. i have looked through step guides but i dont know where to start! i have s-on so how do i get this off or do i need to?
Thanks

zooster said:
Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
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Yes you will have to use the HTC Dev method right now if you want to flash a custom ICS ROM being as those are the only ones you will be able to flash with the Hboot you have. But know this ahead of time the HYC De. Unlock is very different then the Revolutionary unlock. Click the link in my sig to learn mote about the HTc Dev unlock and what it allows you to do. But if I was you I would just wait until Revolutionary supports Hboot 1.27.0000, or someone comes up with a Hboot downgrade for the Sensation cause the HTC Dev method does not fully unlock all portitions except the radio portition like Revolutionary does. Plus it leaves evidence your bootloader has been unlocked so HTC can say your warranty is void. Check out this post to as it gives a little more insight on HTC Dev unlock.

So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??

zooster said:
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
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To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.

T-Macgnolia said:
To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
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Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.

Jalkren said:
Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
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Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000

malybru said:
Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
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Sure, exploit H.Boot 1.27.0000 for S-Off is revolution, new model of HTC phone is same like HTC_One
****ing S-ON policy HTC because you total locked us
And that is why HTC always following behind Samsung nowadays
I'm waiting XDA revolution

Hi,
I'm new to this forum and new nothing about rooting until a few days ago...quickly discovered the fact that Revolution does not support 1.27.
I unlocked with HTC DEV, ran recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.9-pyramid.img using Fastboot CLI.
After that I backed up my stock Vodafone ICS ROM using CWM then switched to the XDA guide for rooting with su-2.3.6.3 and followed rest of XDA guides for installing a ROM (really useful guides - Thanks!!)
Within an hour I had gone from stock Vodafone ICS to Virtuous Inquisition-v4.0.1
I'll admit I got hooked up on flashing recovery and was given some guidance by a friendly soul but figured the rest out from this forum..

Not able to S-Off my Desire S, require help

Below is the details of my phone, I am not able to S-Off the phone, require help. I tried couple of things however gives me error.
Phone Details.
Saga Pvt ship S-on RL
Hboot – 2.00.0002
Radio – 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot

Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S

unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:

johnyomair said:
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
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Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.

rain987 said:
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
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I refered to a you tube video " How to S-off htc desire s" the first video that shows up. My phone is already rooted using the hdc dev kit, however when I am trying to do s-off the software gives just a message "Error". It also fails at signature.
do let me know what more information can I provide.
If you have a guide that I can try and share the results with you do send me that as well. I am new to rooting the phone, so sorry for not providing any info that is required.

You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS

ben_pyett said:
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Thanks will try the suggestion and let you know the results

505dv said:
Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
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My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards

johnyomair said:
My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
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No, it's S-ON, but writable on /system partition due to HTCDev unlock. It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.

Jack_R1 said:
It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
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Then please tell me why my Bootloader says:
*unlocked*
SAGA PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
S-OFF ... Security off
Rooting ... Grant root for the device, like su on linux
HTCDev unlock ... unlocks the bootloader
But its ok I just tried to help...

Then you can try to avoid confusion providing more detailed info, like:
"I have used XTC Clip to gain S-OFF, then used htcdev.com, without any particular reason, then got rooted by SuperOneClick"
Your previous post can mislead some non advanced users that SOC can provide S-OFF, without using additional tools.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.

Nope to upgrade your Radio you have to be S-OFF

Maybe it was shipped with S-OFF because I had a brandig first.

I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?

johnyomair said:
Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
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And you can flash radios only because you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it while you could have done whatever you wanted with it. And S-OFF is the only reason you can flash radios, and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything - just as it won't allow any non-S-OFF user to flash radios, and won't turn S-ON to S-OFF. But what do I know, I was just passing here.

c.m.b said:
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
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It is unlikely, but certainly possible. In the early days of Desire S development (back when we had to use the XTC-Clip hardware to obtain S-Off) there were some people who got their devices brand new already S-Off.

ok, back to the topic:
the simpliest way to gain s-off without xtc-clip is to downgrade the bootloader to HBOOT 0.98, and gain S-OFF with Revolutionary. After you did this you can run the latest ruu, which doesn't influence wether your s-off or s-on. Finally, you've got a device with hboot 2.02 and s-off.

After using revolutionary you are already S-OFF!
If you want to upgrade your HBOOT don't run a RUU AFAIK it could brick your device ... use this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
Do you know the differences between Radio HBOOT S-OFF root etc?
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Jack_R1 said:
....you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it
................and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything...........
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I have to disagree @Jack_R1 the unlock via htcdev wasn't completely useless as it managed to void his HTC warranty! :laugh: logging that fact with HTC in the process!
we can only try...........:silly: