Is anyone ever going to port a Sense 3.0 rom for the g2x? I've been really wanting to try it lately
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If they did it would probaly lag pretty bad since sense is a resource whore. Still i'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to see 1 made for our devices.
OMG I love sense
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Sense doesn't make...
Sense would be a huge undertaking for the g2x. HTC sense runs propriety drivers and frameworks. Written to work on HTC hardware. Since the g2x and almost any HTC devices have very little in common that means writing drivers to get it to work. Although not impossible (think hd2 which shared alot of hardware with native Android/HTC phones) it's a huge undertaking and highly unlikely.
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When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
xsteven77x said:
When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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The G2 was an HTC-Made device... It had a snapdragon processor as well, just like any other HTC Phone.
HTC Sense has been ported to the Galaxy S Devices before, so it IS still possible on Tegra 2 devices.
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The G2 was an HTC-Made device... It had a snapdragon processor as well, just like any other HTC Phone.
HTC Sense has been ported to the Galaxy S Devices before, so it IS still possible on Tegra 2 devices.
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G2 is the HTC vision in Europe where it was released with sense, should
of made it a little easier to port the latest sense to it. As far as sense on the g2x never said it wasn't possible, just said it would be a huge undertaking.
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I would pitch in at least 10$ for someone to port sense 3.0, anyone else?
will748 said:
I would pitch in at least 10$ for someone to port sense 3.0, anyone else?
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i would 5$
bstylz911 said:
i would 5$
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man i dont care to give $20+ if they make a sense 3.0 or 3.5 or LG OVERLAY on the g2x that works good stable. just so we can have another choice of flashing roms that are not stock gingerbread. most of all the roms we have are like that.
If and when I have time I would like to try. I don't care about the money, I can't receive it right now anyway. I just want sense. If you guys want LG UI I think that it wouldn't be too hard, so I'll do that first.
go ahead man were 100% pulling for you
Ya that would be awesome, go ahead and try it
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xsteven77x said:
When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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Say what? The G2 and Desire Z are virtually the same exact phone and sense was ported to it quicker then you can blink! All they did was change the partitions and remove various apps so sense could fit on the G2's much smaller boot partition.
I'm not trying to imply that the devs did no work, and I for one could never have done it. But, it wasn't thaaaaaat big of a deal. Just sayin'
Source: Had a G2 from launch day.
Do you think it would be possible to base the port off of ports to other Tegra phones?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr_37WAHvQ
Nexus S can do it so can G2x with LOTS of work probably.
mt3g said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr_37WAHvQ
Nexus S can do it so can G2x with LOTS of work probably.
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cool video. i know sense 3.0 is out but it would be awesome to see even this one on our g2x
tahahawa said:
If and when I have time I would like to try. I don't care about the money, I can't receive it right now anyway. I just want sense. If you guys want LG UI I think that it wouldn't be too hard, so I'll do that first.
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ill donate to you anyways! haha.
LOOKING FORWARD!
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Say what? The G2 and Desire Z are virtually the same exact phone and sense was ported to it quicker then you can blink! All they did was change the partitions and remove various apps so sense could fit on the G2's much smaller boot partition.
I'm not trying to imply that the devs did no work, and I for one could never have done it. But, it wasn't thaaaaaat big of a deal. Just sayin'
Source: Had a G2 from launch day.
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True, but missing one important fact. Both of those phones are htc phones. HTC sense is has it's own custom framework written for htc phones. Much easier than porting it to a non htc phone. (Not saying it can't be done, but don't dismiss it so fast. )
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i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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Is apps2sd really a big deal for u? The epic has more internal mem than the hero so u won't run. Out as quick. I switched from hero with cm6 and I had to use apps2sd on hero, but I haven't been able to use all of the epics internal mem. Idk how many apps u got so if u got even enuff to use up the epic mem then I understand ur concern, but I really doubt anyone needs that much.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Thats true but the overall experience is better on Epic. If Epic 2.1 stock feels faster then EVO 2.2 stock then you have to wonder how fast this sucker is going to be in 2.2. Plus everybody is just waiting for 2.2 since whats the point putting some much effort of a software version thats hardly going to be used when 2.2 comes out. Is there still 2.1 development for Android phones that received 2.2, i seriously doubt it.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Epic screen is sooooo much better than evo and it really is way faster. Plus. I think a lot of development is overrated...all I'm looking for is that one good rom to stick with..I get tired of switching all the time. Just my opinion.
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ravizzle said:
Is apps2sd really a big deal for u?
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yes, yes it is. the development for this phone really lacks.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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i might but the evo is going on 6 months old now so im doubtful ill get one.
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i might but the evo is going on 6 months old now so im doubtful ill get one.
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Didnt you get a Pre after the Hero? Seriously, go Evo.
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Didnt you get a Pre after the Hero? Seriously, go Evo.
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yeah and my pre basically smokes the hero as im running at 1ghz..
i dunno what ill do yet, my upgrade is due tomorrow. knowing my luck ill buy the evo and the development will cease.
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i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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Yeah bro you need froyo..but just be patient the word is froyo for epic sometime in nov. I'm coming from an evo and yes I'm dissapointed about the dev community or lack there of for the epic but even with that and the epic running 2.1 I'm still glad I switched from the evo..so pick it up its a great phone
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fixxxer2008 said:
yeah and my pre basically smokes the hero as im running at 1ghz..
i dunno what ill do yet, my upgrade is due tomorrow. knowing my luck ill buy the evo and the development will cease.
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Lol, I dont think so. Even if it ceases, there plenty to go around.
There is no incentive to develop for the Epic 4g at this point. The instant the phone was released it was made public knowledge that 2.2 was coming to it, and the closer that date comes the less people want to invest in tweaking 2.1.
App2sd is a cool feature and all, but I don't see a need at this point. I have a ridiculous number of apps installed and I still have a hundred MB free on the internal storage. I use maybe about 40% of the apps I have installed regularly and about 30% of what I have installed I never use. Maybe when Android starts getting better games ported over from iOS or developed natively on the platform, the need will arise.
And get whatever phone you want frankly. The epic is better than the Evo, and I am not saying that because I own one. If you are willing to make roms and help develop, I am not too sure why you are concerned about the lack of development on the phone. Isn't that something that regular users should be worried about?
I honestly wouldn't recommend the EVO to anyone... it was the worst phone I've ever used.
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Yeah bro you need froyo..but just be patient the word is froyo for epic sometime in nov. I'm coming from an evo and yes I'm dissapointed about the dev community or lack there of for the epic but even with that and the epic running 2.1 I'm still glad I switched from the evo..so pick it up its a great phone
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+1 same thing happened with me. I was with the evo for a week it just felt like a bigger hero honestly... epic is amazing.. go for epic you won't be disappointed.. you always have that 30 day return guarantee..
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There is really no point for Apps2sd at all. What are you saving all that internal mem for? And just because there are more roms out doesnt mean thats a good thing. Coming from a G1 I hated that there were so many damn roms to choose from, and they all had the same basic ish cept maybe a few of them were themed up differently.
The Evo is basically turning into a iPhone IMO, and im sick of the users swearing up and down that THAT phone is basically the best in the biz...FALSE. The epic suits me more for what I need which is basically gaming, movies, and partial business. All the Evo has to go on is .3" of screen and a processor that not nearly as powerful as the epics and for that matter SENSE UI IS ****ING UGLY *shudders*
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LMAO, I just love our small community. We dont need 50 differrent roms and become a clusterfuck like the other sub forums. We need to support each other
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Why does everyone want a stock android rom, I thought the point of these different phones was to be different
Zei said:
All the Evo has to go on is .3" of screen and a processor that not nearly as powerful as the epics and for that matter SENSE UI IS ****ING UGLY *shudders*
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I wouldn't go that far. The Evo has a few advantages over the Epic and the epic has a few advantages over the evo. For one, the evo has a larger screen, and even though its only .3 inches, its VERY noticeable. Also, somehow even though they have a larger screen, the screen uses less battery than our epic's. Also, they have a kickstand which is pretty damn sweet.
I chose the Epic because of the Super AMOLED, which I THOUGHT was super battery efficient and also a brilliant display (1/2 aint bad), the amazing processor and the dedicated GPU. HTC makes amazing phones, and the EVO's build quality is higher than the Epic's, but they ALWAYS shortchange their phones by ignoring the graphics department. Every smartphone I have purchased has been an HTC device, and on EVERY SINGLE one they have had no hardware accelerated graphics, which has always become an issue.
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Had an evo for nearly 90 days. Had froyo. Had every cm6 nightly. Had cm6 rc1.
Miss cm6. Miss froyo. But am loving the epic so much more than the evo.
Better battery life, better screen, physical keyboard, better stability.
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I honestly wouldn't recommend the EVO to anyone... it was the worst phone I've ever used.
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reasons? im leaning towards the evo because it's alot cheaper than the epic.
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There is really no point for Apps2sd at all.
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yes there is, the more free ram you have, the faster your phone runs. apps2sd is a godsend.
Zei said:
There is really no point for Apps2sd at all. What are you saving all that internal mem for?
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I look forward to the day that you are forced to eat those words.
Vote here for the HTC Sensation to get Cyanogen Mod Support:
http://twtpoll.com/r/hsrsfj
Please share this poll. If we can get the dev to get a HTC Sensation we'll get CM on the phone.
If the bootloader is locked as tightly as the Incredible S, then it's going to take a lot more than a dev with a phone to get CM on your device...
Going to take jesus christ and a lot of redbull.
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Yes, if, but we don't know that yet. Look at the Thunderbolt. It can be done.
Von meinen Nexus One gesendet, mit XDA Premium.
Looks like Sensation pretty much won the poll already.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/169-htc-desire-hd-htc-inspire/
So why is this so hard? If it's already out for the DHD, the chances are it will make it to the Sensation.
The encryption methods on Thunderbolt, Incredible S & Sensation are heavier than on the Desire HD first of all.
A hack for the Thunderbolt was found based on a downgraded leaked firmware that could be flashed as a means to achieve S-OFF. A similar approach was tried already for the Incredible S, but so far it has failed.
I suggest poking around the Incredible S Development forum if you want to stay updated on the prospects of hacking the Sensation too.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
Got my vote
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http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
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That's Cyanogen himself, he doesn't like Sense UI. But others members will support Sensation.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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You're right, I buy HTC Sensation for Sense UI 3.0. But for people that like AOSP CM7 will give them choices.
PS Look like Samsux troll are out in force.... hahahaha funny as hell.
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sub0min0us said:
I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Well, if you like Sense 3.0, then leave it on! No one forces you to install CM! I like the possibilities of individualising your phone with Cyanogen Mod!
sub0min0us said:
I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Ehh everyone is different. Personally i feel sense, even in its old version, was pretty bloated. Now in its crazy 3d implementation it is even more so. I buy a device based on if its supported by cm7.
Its from my damn phone!!!
Damn, this is almost a deal breaker. I was really looking forward to this being supported by Cyanogen. Not that they still wont. I own a N1 and been running Cyan from the begining. I am not looking forward to an LG phone. It scares me. HTC builds quality phones. I hear a bunch of things about the Gx2 but if its cyan software, it may solve some issues. This phone looks so damn good tho
i wanna CM on HTC Sensation too.
how its going ?
Ask charansingh, he's on the board too.
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I'd like CM on it too. Love the sensations hardware but sense looks a bit dated and bloated to me now.
I have tried most of the UI's. Sense, by far, is the heaviest and most restrictive one. From the standard 16 apps 4x4 screen configuration to the inability to adjust certain widgets to smaller sizes. Therefore, Sense is gone for me anyway. I would welcome the mod support if I get one.
my Sensation is crying for the CM
any news ?
It's too bad that by the time a real (fully working) AOSP ROM drops for this phone I will already be on my next device. I purchased my original Sensation (now on my 4th or 5th due to dust issues...) back in June of last year. CM7 was always half baked, and although it was my daily it was never really 100% complete. Not to mention they never released an official CM7 for the Sensation.. But anyway, now CM9 is "in progress" but my biggest fear is that it will be 4 to 6 months (at LEAST) before a fully stable, working, reliable AOSP ROM (CM9 or otherwise) is released for our device. The most unfortunate part is that the hardware as a whole is certainly capable, and the devs are certainly good, but it will most likely be a case of "too little too late" for me. I have my eye on a true STOCK device such as the Nexus line, as that will really be the only way to go in the future. The main reasons are as follows, let me know if others agree
1) Almost instant (not really, but you get my point!) updates from Google
2) Those same updates can immediately be applied by Dev's for even more fun!
3) NO SENSE
4) NO SENSE to remove
5) Did I mention those phones don't have Sense???
I am with you. Though Virtuous has relatively decent ICS ROM that I am using, almost no trace of Sense.
Actually considering Galaxy Nexus now, on dailysteaps for $530 today.
Not sure wife will approve since she is still on Vibrant.
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Mehh I hate sense but I'm gonna buy a phone that was made for sense
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erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Its a good question, and the reason was I simply did not know how awful Sense was. This was my second Android phone, and my first was a bone stock (and loving it!) G2 made as Google intended it to be. I honestly had no concept of the horrifying abomination that Sense is. It was beyond my comprehension that HTC would bother to not only create that beast (sense), but to make it so hard to remove. I loved the hardware build of my first HTC phone and I just assumed Sense would be minor cosmetic changes, clearly I was VERY wrong and should have done much more work before selecting a new device. Also, at the time I purchased the Sensation the hardware was top notch, and it was the most powerful device you could find. Immediately upon powering it on and seeing Sense however, I realized the gravity of my mistake.....
Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Video cording works. Just not takijg pics while recording
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The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
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however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
Hope you enjoy your new phone OP!
Let us know when you get one, and I have to agree with you, the lack of a true senseless rom is pretty much non-existent for this phone. Nonetheless, enjoy your day!
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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why? Because I REFUSE to buy a samsung. (although I'm starting to change my mind for the gal nex now). I bought this phone simply for the hardware, not the UI. Just cause you got a phone for a reason, doesn't mean other's have to be the same.
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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My Vibrant started hardware malfunction on data radio in June and at that time HTC Sensation seemed to be a high end choice, just came out with dual core, good camera, etc. I had G1 prior to Vibrant which was made by HTC ( as did my wife and teen) and they were well built and had a good hardware. Little did I know of all the keylogger and other goodies baked into Sensation, should have taken Nexus S instead in a hindsight.
The phone is not too bad with Virtuous ICS ROM now, but in future I will go for Nexus devices, no matter if CPU/GPU not the latest or greatest. Still conidering that Galaxy Nexus dailysteals deal for $530 running today.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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Wouldn't next nexus phone on tmobile be at least a year away from now?
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i want to jump ship to the Galaxy Nexus because of the same reasons (ie lack of AOSP dev support on the Sensation)... however, the crappy camera on the g.nex is really of putting to me since i use the camera daily.
i think i will wait to see how the galaxy s3, xperia s, and the htc one all do before upgrading... my priorities for my next phone are:
- Krait or Tegra3
- at least 300ppi
- strong AOSP dev support ie unlocked bootloader
- 720p and OLED a huge plus
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erto90 said:
The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
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No, sense is awful and so is touchwiz and motoblur
i would take an iphone over sense
lol there always apple unlock your phone sell it for a apple iphone and be gone stop crying dev do what they can you want it fast learn to do what they do
This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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Sorry but no. It fells totally different for me. I tell myself its aosp but I just don't buy it. No matter how close it is to aosp, its not. Until you've tried the true feel and power of a complete aosp build, don't say its the same.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
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Who was the first to bring aosp ics first to sensation?
Who ported a fully stable sense 4 rom?
Who ported miui v4 first?
Who's got everything working on aosp?
Then vorbeth calls trip a kanger on twitter and then says that's why he doesn't release his sources. Well if he did, we would see them posting there work.
And vorbeth is becoming big headed on twitter cause he can compile cm9 from source? There's a step by step tutorial in the development section so even new users can easily build.
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Since this is turning into another trip related discussion you can discuss about it in some other forum.
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Final warning to everyone.
Dont discuss about :supposed kanging concerning Roms that dont have a thread on XDA.
All,
looking for insight regarding currently available ROM's that would offer the closest thing to CM9 (from what I’ve read CM9 is only available on Tegra3 handsets)? Looking for a 'stock android experience' or AOSP based build... your suggestions are much appreciated.
currently unlocked, running 1.85FW, with CWT recovery...
many thanx,
The closest thing available right now would probably be CleanROM Dev edition 2.0. Check it out in the development section.
CleanROM DE 2 is what I'm running and it's great. It's pretty clean.
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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Clean ROM DE is different from what you are running. Check the dev section. As for an AOSP ROM...who knows. There are a lot of factors involved.
Rabble rabble rabble.
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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You know that never happens =)
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If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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You realize those manufacturers slap their own crap on top of stock android too, right? Samsung - TouchWiz, Moto - Blur, LG - Whatever the heck they do. Unless you're buying a Nexus device then you're getting a manufacturer skin.
Personally, I buy for the hardware. Though, the stock software has to be tolerable enough to last me until custom roms start coming out.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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Thanks for the correction.
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
dufort said:
qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Good to see you h8 I liked your stuff on the infuse you taught me a lot
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h8rift said:
I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Oh I'm sitting tight, stoked to see what the future is with this device. Just had to vent a bit :banghead:
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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Source has been released for one x tegra...
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There are only so many ways you can debloat the stock roms lol.
Things will pick up once the source is released and devs can start going crazy.
+1
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
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Exactly!
http://ausdroid.net/2012/06/29/htc-comments-on-jelly-bean-for-the-one-series/
"We are excited about Android Jelly Bean and are planning to support it across a variety of our devices. We are reviewing the software to determine our upgrade plans and schedule, so please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans.”
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They say basically nothing.
We'll obviously get jelly bean.. In fall..
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We'll obviously get jelly bean.. In fall..
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2014
Who cares when we get "official" JB? We'll get it long before HTC gives it to us. And honestly I could care less if we ever get it at all. My phone is quite literally perfect the way it is and will do just fine for me until HTC's quad core S4 phone comes out.
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I love how htc spins its wheels regarding every issue...
I understand from a big business point of view of wanting to balance sounding good while not giving any definitive answers, but honestly its getting a little old now...
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How awesome would it be if htc let's us run plain android ala nexus on the one x .
I think it would make this phone even better than it already is.
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one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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The custom ui's draw some people in, the buy the phone because the love sense, or touchwiz. Many people run custom launchera, but some but phones specifically because the want that custom ui.
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gunnyman said:
2014
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From AT&T ya... if at all. HTC will prolly push it out around September/October.
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From AT&T ya... if at all. HTC will prolly push it out around September/October.
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Indeed
As soon as we have source builds will start so maybe July/August
They are probably working on it now. They might be one of the few oems that got the pdk a bit early that Google announced. So hopefully updates will roll out faster
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ethantarheels123 said:
one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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Sense 4 is not bad and better than stock ics in some ways.
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ethantarheels123 said:
one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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They do this to help differentiate a saturated market. And believe it or not, I know quite a few people who dig sense, or tw. I myself prefer vanilla. But you have to remember there is a lot of little handy things sense does, like fb integration, that stock vanilla android does not do, and most users couldn't be bothered to play with it and mod it to work. I am just against manufacturer overlays as the next Xda user(the minority), but I'm just trying to enlighten you as to why these overlays exist, mainly to stand out from one another.
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They do this to help differentiate a saturated market. And believe it or not, I know quite a few people who dig sense, or tw. I myself prefer vanilla. But you have to remember there is a lot of little handy things sense does, like fb integration, that stock vanilla android does not do, and most users couldn't be bothered to play with it and mod it to work. I am just against manufacturer overlays as the next Xda user(the minority), but I'm just trying to enlighten you as to why these overlays exist, mainly to stand out from one another.
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the ONLY reason I use a sense based rom is due to facebook syncing contact pictures. Its very handy. I know of haxsync, but I don't want to pay for something that should be/is free.
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I for one really like sence and would never bash someone for liking aosp. If I'm not mistaken I believe the manufactures are required to mask the ui of stock android. Except for the nexus series which is marketed as a google device.
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jayv81 said:
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I for one really like sence and would never bash someone for liking aosp. If I'm not mistaken I believe the manufactures are required to mask the ui of stock android. Except for the nexus series which is marketed as a google device.
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Not true at all. It's the opposite. They like adding their own stuff because they think that's what sells. Go look at any "cheap" Android phone. They're actually lucky enough to get stock Android.
I've been wishing they could just make it the customers choice. It can't be hard to make a vanilla rom on top of their Sense or TW. At initial setup let us choose whether or not it installs Sense or whatever.
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Not true at all. It's the opposite. They like adding their own stuff because they think that's what sells. Go look at any "cheap" Android phone. They're actually lucky enough to get stock Android.
I've been wishing they could just make it the customers choice. It can't be hard to make a vanilla rom on top of their Sense or TW. At initial setup let us choose whether or not it installs Sense or whatever.
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rquinn I have to believe Google wants the same thing.
Google puts a lot of work into the Stock Android experience. ICS is by a huge margin better from a UI standpoint than any version that has come before it.
Trouble is, unless you're a phone geek, you won't see it.
I can only think of one or two devices besides the Nexus that DON'T skin Android.
I want to try a Huwai device for this reason. I've decided that after I'm done with this device, I'm buying a Pure Google one. If the release of the Nexus 7 and the Galaxy Nexus to the play store is any indication, Google is going into the hardware business full time, and I can't wait to see what they do.
Skins can be great, but they should be an option that you can enable or disable with a button click.
I personally love Sense, but it's what works for you, obviously. HTC's Mail app has the best Exchange support I've ever seen in Android. Granted I've never used Samsung's mail client, so maybe it's comparable, but everything else is either really flaky, incomplete, or ugly. I actually wish they would bring back the My Shelf application that was on a few phones (like the DHD.) Of all the eReaders I've tried, it's been my favourite. I also haven't seen any calendar app/widget combination that has, IMO, come close to the HTC one in terms of fluidity and completeness.
But, on the topic of Jellybean: As someone else mentioned, I'm in no rush. This phone's damn near perfect. It's almost always buttery smooth, so I don't think Project Butter will improve it a whole lot. Google Now and the improved notifications would be nice though, I guess.
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I personally love Sense, but it's what works for you, obviously. HTC's Mail app has the best Exchange support I've ever seen in Android. Granted I've never used Samsung's mail client, so maybe it's comparable, but everything else is either really flaky, incomplete, or ugly. I actually wish they would bring back the My Shelf application that was on a few phones (like the DHD.) Of all the eReaders I've tried, it's been my favourite. I also haven't seen any calendar app/widget combination that has, IMO, come close to the HTC one in terms of fluidity and completeness.
But, on the topic of Jellybean: As someone else mentioned, I'm in no rush. This phone's damn near perfect. It's almost always buttery smooth, so I don't think Project Butter will improve it a whole lot. Google Now and the improved notifications would be nice though, I guess.
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Project butter will, think of it like a tune up to a car, but a tune up to the Android code, probably a copy of linaro code on cm9.
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