Vote here for the HTC Sensation to get Cyanogen Mod Support:
http://twtpoll.com/r/hsrsfj
Please share this poll. If we can get the dev to get a HTC Sensation we'll get CM on the phone.
If the bootloader is locked as tightly as the Incredible S, then it's going to take a lot more than a dev with a phone to get CM on your device...
Going to take jesus christ and a lot of redbull.
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Yes, if, but we don't know that yet. Look at the Thunderbolt. It can be done.
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Looks like Sensation pretty much won the poll already.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/169-htc-desire-hd-htc-inspire/
So why is this so hard? If it's already out for the DHD, the chances are it will make it to the Sensation.
The encryption methods on Thunderbolt, Incredible S & Sensation are heavier than on the Desire HD first of all.
A hack for the Thunderbolt was found based on a downgraded leaked firmware that could be flashed as a means to achieve S-OFF. A similar approach was tried already for the Incredible S, but so far it has failed.
I suggest poking around the Incredible S Development forum if you want to stay updated on the prospects of hacking the Sensation too.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
Got my vote
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http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
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That's Cyanogen himself, he doesn't like Sense UI. But others members will support Sensation.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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You're right, I buy HTC Sensation for Sense UI 3.0. But for people that like AOSP CM7 will give them choices.
PS Look like Samsux troll are out in force.... hahahaha funny as hell.
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sub0min0us said:
I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Well, if you like Sense 3.0, then leave it on! No one forces you to install CM! I like the possibilities of individualising your phone with Cyanogen Mod!
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Ehh everyone is different. Personally i feel sense, even in its old version, was pretty bloated. Now in its crazy 3d implementation it is even more so. I buy a device based on if its supported by cm7.
Its from my damn phone!!!
Damn, this is almost a deal breaker. I was really looking forward to this being supported by Cyanogen. Not that they still wont. I own a N1 and been running Cyan from the begining. I am not looking forward to an LG phone. It scares me. HTC builds quality phones. I hear a bunch of things about the Gx2 but if its cyan software, it may solve some issues. This phone looks so damn good tho
i wanna CM on HTC Sensation too.
how its going ?
Ask charansingh, he's on the board too.
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I'd like CM on it too. Love the sensations hardware but sense looks a bit dated and bloated to me now.
I have tried most of the UI's. Sense, by far, is the heaviest and most restrictive one. From the standard 16 apps 4x4 screen configuration to the inability to adjust certain widgets to smaller sizes. Therefore, Sense is gone for me anyway. I would welcome the mod support if I get one.
my Sensation is crying for the CM
any news ?
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Last year we had the Original Desire, it wasn't long before it was rooted and had plenty of support.
This year we had the Incredible S, The Desire S and the Sensation and its like the Desire S has been forgotten about.
I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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It didn't carry the legacy of the Desire at all, I'm regretting getting it, it is a fantastic phone but its never gonna get any decent level of support.
Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
Problem is it was released at the wrong time, there will be little to no support from hackers either I suspect.
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still a sick phone though.
prolly once the s-off-ing gets released, more people will develop/port to desire S.
my guess is most roms could be ported over easily to DS from IS and DHD
I wonder is the Incredible S having the same issues thanks to the Sensation? I think the Galaxy SII is the Desire of 2011, it'll be the one getting all the support I reckon.
I just hope it'll get S-Off'd so I can root my device
That's all and people are doing that
It's a mid-range phone, so most people will get it, but very little of the dev community on xda will get it unless they are trying to make major developments on it which sucks D:
Is HTC not supposed to be unlocking the boot loader? Or is this just going to be on new phones?
I thought it was just new phones.
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Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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@others i am pretty sure the phone will get updates in the future...
& alpharevX team is working on software s-off & have succeeded they will release it in public soon...
Alsoo you can't say anything about it not getting updates no more
I recieved an OTA update just now (like literally 15 minutes ago) and all it adds is **** i don't want. (bloatware). Yayyyy
new software number now = 1.47.161.2
I, like others on this forum, don't really see what the problem is. I came from a Hero and got the Desire S based on its merits as a handset straight out of the box, not what it could be with rooting and modding. As a straight out of the box experience, I've been overjoyed with the performance, look 'n' feel and general use of this phone. I did pay to borrow an XTC clip and s-off'd it quite quickly and as a tinkering handset, it's even better. The important thing is I would have been happy with it as it was... the s-off and root just makes a great handset even greater
The recent (albiet buggy) ports of Miui and Gingerbread/CM7 are evidence that the Desire S has a rich and rommy future
I'm guessing that everyone posting in this thread has a Desire S in which case...
If as me you like the device (which was why I bought it in the first place) then great, I can't see any need to continue adding to this thread.
If you don't - then buy another device or IMO don't continue adding negative posts to threads like this that will mainly be read only by other Desire S owners. It's still too early to predict/guess the level of support the device will get in the future and as the last month should have shown us no-one can accurately predict what HTC will do!
We all have the device and probably will all have it for at least one year, in some cases maybe two so either way we'll have to live with. So let's at least try to be positive!
Best phone Iv had. Coming from the HD2, and more recently the Galaxy S2, I cam honestly say this phone is near perfect. I diched the Galaxy S2 in the end because the touchwiz was in my opinion behind the HTC sense interface. The S2 was buggy and battery life lousy. The des S's build quality it brilliant, has a really quality feel to it. The 3.7 inch screen is also just right.. Hits the sweetspot between portability and usability. Personally I feel the 4" plus screens make the handset to big... Feels like taking a step back. Sure, the S2s hardware beats the desires in everyway, but when it comes to usability.. The desire kills it. For starters, theres no lag when waking up the phone..shockingly there is with the s2 which boasts a dual core processor. To sum up, I feel that the desire s is an awesome handset, not the most powerful, but it's reliable, does the things you want it to and more outa the box..and once s-off'd and sense 3 components added, I feel the phones near perfect. If I had to suggest just one improvement, I'd say keep the phone exactly as it is..but add some dual core muscle.
There.. That's my two pence worth.
No phone will get manufacturer support for more than 18 months or so in the new retail world. As to whether enough modders buy it to make it better, I really don't care much. I'd like HTC to fix a few niggles, but basically that's about it. I don't particularly care if it is upgraded to Android 3.0 either.
I came from the original Desire which I rooted and tried numerous different roms infact I got addicted to flashing not one week would go past without me trying a new Rom
My main qualms with the desire were lack of internal memory and I couldn't wait for gingerbread and sense 2.1
Now the DS has all these features as standard and people are still not happy in time all the custom roms will come you will be able to root and be s-off I'm sure when the original desire came out all these didn't turn up over night
So people please be patient
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I feel that the Desire S is the most attractive HTC phone in general.
I agree, it's pretty looking, robust, not too big.
Is anyone ever going to port a Sense 3.0 rom for the g2x? I've been really wanting to try it lately
NOOB ALERT
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If they did it would probaly lag pretty bad since sense is a resource whore. Still i'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to see 1 made for our devices.
OMG I love sense
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Sense doesn't make...
Sense would be a huge undertaking for the g2x. HTC sense runs propriety drivers and frameworks. Written to work on HTC hardware. Since the g2x and almost any HTC devices have very little in common that means writing drivers to get it to work. Although not impossible (think hd2 which shared alot of hardware with native Android/HTC phones) it's a huge undertaking and highly unlikely.
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When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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The G2 was an HTC-Made device... It had a snapdragon processor as well, just like any other HTC Phone.
HTC Sense has been ported to the Galaxy S Devices before, so it IS still possible on Tegra 2 devices.
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The G2 was an HTC-Made device... It had a snapdragon processor as well, just like any other HTC Phone.
HTC Sense has been ported to the Galaxy S Devices before, so it IS still possible on Tegra 2 devices.
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G2 is the HTC vision in Europe where it was released with sense, should
of made it a little easier to port the latest sense to it. As far as sense on the g2x never said it wasn't possible, just said it would be a huge undertaking.
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I would pitch in at least 10$ for someone to port sense 3.0, anyone else?
will748 said:
I would pitch in at least 10$ for someone to port sense 3.0, anyone else?
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i would 5$
bstylz911 said:
i would 5$
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man i dont care to give $20+ if they make a sense 3.0 or 3.5 or LG OVERLAY on the g2x that works good stable. just so we can have another choice of flashing roms that are not stock gingerbread. most of all the roms we have are like that.
If and when I have time I would like to try. I don't care about the money, I can't receive it right now anyway. I just want sense. If you guys want LG UI I think that it wouldn't be too hard, so I'll do that first.
go ahead man were 100% pulling for you
Ya that would be awesome, go ahead and try it
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When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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Say what? The G2 and Desire Z are virtually the same exact phone and sense was ported to it quicker then you can blink! All they did was change the partitions and remove various apps so sense could fit on the G2's much smaller boot partition.
I'm not trying to imply that the devs did no work, and I for one could never have done it. But, it wasn't thaaaaaat big of a deal. Just sayin'
Source: Had a G2 from launch day.
Do you think it would be possible to base the port off of ports to other Tegra phones?
NOOB ALERT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr_37WAHvQ
Nexus S can do it so can G2x with LOTS of work probably.
mt3g said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr_37WAHvQ
Nexus S can do it so can G2x with LOTS of work probably.
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cool video. i know sense 3.0 is out but it would be awesome to see even this one on our g2x
tahahawa said:
If and when I have time I would like to try. I don't care about the money, I can't receive it right now anyway. I just want sense. If you guys want LG UI I think that it wouldn't be too hard, so I'll do that first.
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ill donate to you anyways! haha.
LOOKING FORWARD!
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Say what? The G2 and Desire Z are virtually the same exact phone and sense was ported to it quicker then you can blink! All they did was change the partitions and remove various apps so sense could fit on the G2's much smaller boot partition.
I'm not trying to imply that the devs did no work, and I for one could never have done it. But, it wasn't thaaaaaat big of a deal. Just sayin'
Source: Had a G2 from launch day.
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True, but missing one important fact. Both of those phones are htc phones. HTC sense is has it's own custom framework written for htc phones. Much easier than porting it to a non htc phone. (Not saying it can't be done, but don't dismiss it so fast. )
Hey everyone. So I would like to bring you some discussion here about on what the future holds for our HTC Desire S when it respects to the official HTC support.
The main question here is, what do you think that HTC will do with the Desire S? Will they bring ICS to it? Will they try to be soft and bring just Sense 3.5? Or is our Desire S done and no more updates will come? It would be quite interesting to see what everyone thinks that may happen in the next few months
i doubt very much we will see anymore major official updates ,just maye a few revisions.htc support there phones pretty badly tbh,and as much as i love my desire s and this community i doubt very much i would purchase another one of the htc phones as it will carry on the same legacy i expect .
I think HTC will do nothing. They can't support all the phones they released which is why they've decided to take it slow
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I hope that HTC is still going to release an ICS update for Desire S, but that's probably false hope. HTC has released too many phones (about 5 different versions of the Sensation?) to provide support for every phone. They will just concentrate on the higher-end models, which unfortunately the Desire S isn't. Luckily there is a great community working hard to provide us with future updates
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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what he said..... hit the nail on the head with that one
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
The only reason i recommended the xperia ray was because he HAS to have a Vodafone upgrade. Vodafone's stock ROM on the desire s has that ludicrous 'pocket mode' forced on, and you can't turn it off. 8 hours battery life max. My dad ended up sending his back for that reason. He wouldn't let me root it!
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
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No mate, I wasn't ranting at you
I was criticizing HTC for their poor decision. If the XL is getting ICS, we should get it. We have the same specs.
Heck, even the 2010 phone, Desire HD has near identical specs as the XL. Even that, should get ICS..
Silly move by HTC.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
Dont know about you guys but HTC has always been keep-the-customer-in-dark with Desire S. IMHO I dont know why they do it... I mean it came with sense 2.1 and 2.3 when I bought. After a while some patches and fotas were there but when we got sense 3.0 it was some guys phone which got updated made the news not a disclosure or say news by HTC that its been updated and which makes my geeky mind cheer in the doubt of my mind that we may recieve ICS officially
Now about the thing that here are devs that are doing a hard job to get ICS on ours and imo they have been succesful as in there-was-no-way-but-they-did-it successful. But think if theres an official update what might happen then? I am no dev or **** but as I understand that would made works on other roms ports a heck lot easier...
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
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Good explanation, but keep in mind, the Desire Z did not receive the official Sense 3.0 update.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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This is pretty sad, if HTC won't upgrade our Desire S to ICS. I mean, Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup--and those have the same chipsets as our Desire S! SE's flagship for last year, the Xperia Arc, was launched around the same time frame as our Desire S, with virtually the same Qualcomm chipset. No way HTC can use that excuse, and they know it.
18 months is not yet up for this phone, so if Google is right, we should expect support/updates till around September or so of 2012. As much as I dislike Sense, HTC ought to be ashamed of itself if they won't give us ICS. I can imagine they're in a bind, because they are compelled to give us ICS, but don't want us playing around with the ICS'ed Sense 4.0 and would rather have us get newer, more expensive 4 inch slabs
Come on, HTC. Gain some goodwill among us. Roll out ICS and the latest Sense. You know it makes Sense
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Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup
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That's the way to go, but just as always magic will not happen and HTC Desire S probably will not get ICS update because of that politic, meanwhile Sony Ericsson goes more democratical way and releases updates for customers, not only "top list'' customers as HTC do. I respect HTC, but the point how they sorts updates by devices is to drastic, just too painful for user like us, who knows what their device is able to do, but they simply do not feed it. To be honest, if HTC Desire S will get official ICS update, then it will mean that HTC is changing their political statement and magic is happening.
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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dude, our posts are from days before the leak came out
But thanks for the effort I guess there will hopefully be a strong future for us!
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
Akishima said:
He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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Well good news anyway:
HTC announced ICS officially for us!
YIPPEE!!!
It's too bad that by the time a real (fully working) AOSP ROM drops for this phone I will already be on my next device. I purchased my original Sensation (now on my 4th or 5th due to dust issues...) back in June of last year. CM7 was always half baked, and although it was my daily it was never really 100% complete. Not to mention they never released an official CM7 for the Sensation.. But anyway, now CM9 is "in progress" but my biggest fear is that it will be 4 to 6 months (at LEAST) before a fully stable, working, reliable AOSP ROM (CM9 or otherwise) is released for our device. The most unfortunate part is that the hardware as a whole is certainly capable, and the devs are certainly good, but it will most likely be a case of "too little too late" for me. I have my eye on a true STOCK device such as the Nexus line, as that will really be the only way to go in the future. The main reasons are as follows, let me know if others agree
1) Almost instant (not really, but you get my point!) updates from Google
2) Those same updates can immediately be applied by Dev's for even more fun!
3) NO SENSE
4) NO SENSE to remove
5) Did I mention those phones don't have Sense???
I am with you. Though Virtuous has relatively decent ICS ROM that I am using, almost no trace of Sense.
Actually considering Galaxy Nexus now, on dailysteaps for $530 today.
Not sure wife will approve since she is still on Vibrant.
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Mehh I hate sense but I'm gonna buy a phone that was made for sense
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erto90 said:
If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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Its a good question, and the reason was I simply did not know how awful Sense was. This was my second Android phone, and my first was a bone stock (and loving it!) G2 made as Google intended it to be. I honestly had no concept of the horrifying abomination that Sense is. It was beyond my comprehension that HTC would bother to not only create that beast (sense), but to make it so hard to remove. I loved the hardware build of my first HTC phone and I just assumed Sense would be minor cosmetic changes, clearly I was VERY wrong and should have done much more work before selecting a new device. Also, at the time I purchased the Sensation the hardware was top notch, and it was the most powerful device you could find. Immediately upon powering it on and seeing Sense however, I realized the gravity of my mistake.....
Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Hmm well. i dont the blame the guy cause.......
This is my first HTC. on the galaxy s side sense use to look like the best android rom ever! we only ever dreamt to get sense 2.1 on our device.
Now that i got sensation with sense 3.0 it was a disaster.
The ui was good but toooooooooooooooooo memory hogging and then all of a sudden i realise samsung majorly improve touchwiz and it looks amazing, the day i slapped myself and what makes it worse is the fact the amount of support the galaxy s 2 is getting compared to our phone
Now my next phone is galaxy s 3 definitely.
however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
he has had massive breakthroughs with our phone recently. he just released 95% stable fully working sense 4 rom which i think is much more optimised than sense 3.0
and now that he has almost everything working on his aosp tripndroid os rom including bluetooth apart from video recording we are in good shape
CALL ME A TRIP FANBOY IDC <3
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Video cording works. Just not takijg pics while recording
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The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
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however now everything is starting to look so much better tbh because and solely because of trip and only 10% virtuous team and shinzon.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
Hope you enjoy your new phone OP!
Let us know when you get one, and I have to agree with you, the lack of a true senseless rom is pretty much non-existent for this phone. Nonetheless, enjoy your day!
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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why? Because I REFUSE to buy a samsung. (although I'm starting to change my mind for the gal nex now). I bought this phone simply for the hardware, not the UI. Just cause you got a phone for a reason, doesn't mean other's have to be the same.
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If you hate sense, why you bought it? I don't understand people like you
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My Vibrant started hardware malfunction on data radio in June and at that time HTC Sensation seemed to be a high end choice, just came out with dual core, good camera, etc. I had G1 prior to Vibrant which was made by HTC ( as did my wife and teen) and they were well built and had a good hardware. Little did I know of all the keylogger and other goodies baked into Sensation, should have taken Nexus S instead in a hindsight.
The phone is not too bad with Virtuous ICS ROM now, but in future I will go for Nexus devices, no matter if CPU/GPU not the latest or greatest. Still conidering that Galaxy Nexus dailysteals deal for $530 running today.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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do not get the galaxy nexus. if you have the sensation, use it until like september november. because thats when all the good phones are rolling out.
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Wouldn't next nexus phone on tmobile be at least a year away from now?
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i want to jump ship to the Galaxy Nexus because of the same reasons (ie lack of AOSP dev support on the Sensation)... however, the crappy camera on the g.nex is really of putting to me since i use the camera daily.
i think i will wait to see how the galaxy s3, xperia s, and the htc one all do before upgrading... my priorities for my next phone are:
- Krait or Tegra3
- at least 300ppi
- strong AOSP dev support ie unlocked bootloader
- 720p and OLED a huge plus
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The true truth is that
Who have sense, sometimes hate it and search for aosp
The others are jelous of sense and always ask for porting on their samsung,lg etc here and there..
Is the mad truth
The neighbor's grass is always the more green ( ok sorry for the ported dict )
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No, sense is awful and so is touchwiz and motoblur
i would take an iphone over sense
lol there always apple unlock your phone sell it for a apple iphone and be gone stop crying dev do what they can you want it fast learn to do what they do
This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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This must be the 15th threat opened for complaining about the Sensation not having dev support, being slow,having bad build quality and a bad screen etc! You people gather your complaints in one threat and leave these forums clean for the rest of us who enjoy this phone. Virtuous Inq provides a 95% AOSP look and feel unless upu want to tell your friends that you have a "true" AOSP!
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Sorry but no. It fells totally different for me. I tell myself its aosp but I just don't buy it. No matter how close it is to aosp, its not. Until you've tried the true feel and power of a complete aosp build, don't say its the same.
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That's laughable. Virtuous Inquisition is probably the best AOSP-like ROM out right now and Trip had nothing to do with it.
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Who was the first to bring aosp ics first to sensation?
Who ported a fully stable sense 4 rom?
Who ported miui v4 first?
Who's got everything working on aosp?
Then vorbeth calls trip a kanger on twitter and then says that's why he doesn't release his sources. Well if he did, we would see them posting there work.
And vorbeth is becoming big headed on twitter cause he can compile cm9 from source? There's a step by step tutorial in the development section so even new users can easily build.
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Since this is turning into another trip related discussion you can discuss about it in some other forum.
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Final warning to everyone.
Dont discuss about :supposed kanging concerning Roms that dont have a thread on XDA.
it seems every single day at the moment there is a new rom in the dev section, having a sensation seems to be finally paying off.
Theres nothing really new, just sense 3.x with practically nothing extra, IMHO. Only seen 1 AOSP ROM (yikes)
Glad you're more optimistic then me lol
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Apart from the new MIUI rom...everything has been the same.
Im only waiting for the sources from htc then sense will be so great
no need for aosp
It's as Awesome as it has always been! Hang out in the Development section with our talented chefs for a while..you'll get the real picture!!
I think once source is out its going to get way better. I can't wait for official cm9 and virtuous Quattro.
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Well it's been amazing if not great. Hey at least our devs keep their ROMs updated, right?
Sensation-al! said:
Theres nothing really new, just sense 3.x with practically nothing extra, IMHO. Only seen 1 AOSP ROM (yikes)
Glad you're more optimistic then me lol
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I agree with the OP...
There's more than just Sense 3.x. There's plenty of Sense 4 ROMs now too which are very nice indeed
Ok I am I missing something or has every post in this thread missed something? Development is not just making custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong custom ROMs are great but with Qualcomm releasing the driver binaries for the Adreno 2xx Snapdragon processors., and the work being done on making the Sensation unbrickable. The Sensation is on the path to be a very valuable development device which means it is going to be open to loads of development. I would even dare say it has a capability to reach some of the level of development that the HD2 has. The driver binaries is enough on it's own as it opens up the possibility of custom bootloaders and booting of different OS's on the Sensation, I mean we do have S-off, and a official unlock from HTC Dev. Either one of these can be compared to HSPL for the HD2, without it non of the thing achieved on the HD2 would have every happened. Then you have the unbrickable work being done, this will make developers really want it because they know they have somewhat of a earth net and can revive the Sensation if they make a mistake and have to revive it. Even the legendary HD2 has never reached this status......
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Ok I am I missing something or has every post in this thread missed something? Development is not just making custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong custom ROMs are great but with Qualcomm releasing the driver binaries for the Adreno 2xx Snapdragon processors., and the work being done on making the Sensation unbrickable. The Sensation is on the path to be a very valuable development device which means it is going to be open to loads of development. I would even dare say it has a capability to reach some of the level of development that the HD2 has. The driver binaries is enough on it's own as it opens up the possibility of custom bootloaders and booting of different OS's on the Sensation, I mean we do have S-off, and a official unlock from HTC Dev. Either one of these can be compared to HSPL for the HD2, without it non of the thing achieved on the HD2 would have every happened. Then you have the unbrickable work being done, this will make developers really want it because they know they have somewhat of a earth net and can revive the Sensation if they make a mistake and have to revive it. Even the legendary HD2 has never reached this status......
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HD2 is capable of WM, WP, Android, Ubuntu....far more than just Android on the Sensation. But I can see your point.
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HD2 is capable of WM, WP, Android, Ubuntu....far more than just Android on the Sensation. But I can see your point.
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Yeah this is why I said some of the level of development. The HD2 can boot almost OS thrown at it. But I do see a real possibility of custom booloaders for the Sensation. And when you have a custom bootloader the next step is booting different OS's.
Go take a look at the G2x dev forum. Wow. Its empty.
Do we have a sense rom with Face Unlock?
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Do we have a sense rom with Face Unlock?
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All of the ics roms have that.
Guys, I'm gonna give you a little teaser... There are some thoughts of getting Ubuntu on that baby...
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I like that idea ))))
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I heard Microsoft is adding support for dualcore in wp7. Maybe htc will release a WP with similar specs as the sensation and we may get a WP7 port ? I don't think it's likely anymore though :/
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I heard Microsoft is adding support for dualcore in wp7. Maybe htc will release a WP with similar specs as the sensation and we may get a WP7 port ? I don't think it's likely anymore though :/
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Even if they do I can't see a port happening, like the Nexus One and Desire have the same chip as the Mozart, HD7 and a few others IIRC but those two haven't had ports AFAIK.
we need a license to run wp7 which we dont have
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All of the ics roms have that.
Guys, I'm gonna give you a little teaser... There are some thoughts of getting Ubuntu on that baby...
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You mean natively (as in booting straight to Ubuntu) or within Android? I use BackTrack 5 in Android, it was a fun ride but I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 anyway so meh. If its native though, that would be awesome.
Also to the guy that I didn't feel like quoting who mentioned that multiple OSes on the Sensation in his mild rant; we would barely even have much of a chance to do such a thing. The closest we could do is Boot 2 Gecko, since the drivers are pretty much cross compatible. The Galaxy S II has it.
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we need a license to run wp7 which we dont have
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That didn't stop the HD2 users