Court cases! Apple vs Samsung! - General Topics

As I'm sure you've probably read Apple are being total douche's thinking the business world revolves round them....when in actual fact, their products would be bugger all without Samsung as they make the RAM, NAND, and Hummingbird Processor in all their products! What do Apple think their playing at? What are your views?
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Pretty funny that Samsung can make all the tech that makes these things work (and spend billions researching it) and Apple turns around and tries to take over the market based on their proprietary 'tech' which amounts to a shape and a button.

haloimplant said:
Pretty funny that Samsung can make all the tech that makes these things work (and spend billions researching it) and Apple turns around and tries to take over the market based on their proprietary 'tech' which amounts to a shape and a button.
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I know mate apparently Samsung make the screen for the iPhone 4 too, Apple would be up a gum tree without a paddle without Samsung lol
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haloimplant said:
Pretty funny that Samsung can make all the tech that makes these things work (and spend billions researching it) and Apple turns around and tries to take over the market based on their proprietary 'tech' which amounts to a shape and a button.
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lmao, apparently according to the many many rumours, the new iphone is meant to have an elongated home button but Samsung beat them to the punch with the new Galaxy SII LTE HD. A screen resolution of 316ppi and resolution of 1280x720 (apple says 300ppi is human eye limit, so technically its a retina display without the proprietary nametag )
Looks like Apple woke up the BFG. If Samsung can market their new phones right, Apple has a lot to worry about. Also since Apple havent released specs of their upcoming phone Samsung might be able to sue for copying the elongated home button if that is the case with the iphone 5.
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haloimplant said:
Pretty funny that Samsung can make all the tech that makes these things work (and spend billions researching it) and Apple turns around and tries to take over the market based on their proprietary 'tech' which amounts to a shape and a button.
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That's because Apple is better at marketing. While Samsung uses technical terms like 1.5GHz dual core processor, super AMOLED screen, etc., Apple uses gimmicky terms like facetime(video calling), retina display(high resolution screen), iMessage(Whatsapp rip off), etc. Non-technical people will fall for Apple's gimmicks. Unfortunately, 90% of consumers are non-technical.
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djice000 said:
As I'm sure you've probably read Apple are being total douche's thinking the business world revolves round them....when in actual fact, their products would be bugger all without Samsung as they make the RAM, NAND, and Hummingbird Processor in all their products! What do Apple think their playing at? What are your views?
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By the way, Apple isn't the only douche. The real douches are the people who passed those patents in the first place. Who on earth allowed them to patent technologies like "using a cpu to process data in a mobile device"? Obviously all phones have cpus to process data.

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I know mate apparently Samsung make the screen for the iPhone 4 too, Apple would be up a gum tree without a paddle without Samsung lol
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The Retina Display is made by LG not Sammy.

not Retina display, is IPS screen made by LG.
It help Apple a lot, while Samsung is making Amoled screen

i dunno why they banned samsung galaxy tab 10.1 in germany. its a copy of ipad ? really ?. there is no similarity. the screen in galaxy tab is bigger and longer. there's no physical button. the speakers and volume rockers are placed at different places. the camera is better. its lighter and slimmer. the only thing thats same is the colour and the charging port. and thats because charging through micro usb takes too long. so all tablets are using that now. stupid apple. they're all apples

i can see apple tree is near dead

It dodges and strikes back.
"Samsung targets iPhone 4S sales ban in France, Italy"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-samsung-apple-idUSTRE7941D020111005

Make apple pay for their sins

I think Samsung is quite clever since the more products apple sell the more profit Samsung would gain too. The market demand different kinds of parties, some in charge of the tech and making products, the other in charge of decorating products and pleasing customers. However, we all know the one with real tech/ability would enjoy the lasting success.

I didn't stop laughing the entire time I was in this thread.
Apple is getting what they deserve... Its coming soon.

tehgyb said:
I didn't stop laughing the entire time I was in this thread.
Apple is getting what they deserve... Its coming soon.
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Yup...every day Apple rakes in more money than all of us combined will ever dream of in a lifetime. And they do deserve it...lol

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246779&highlight=samsung+vs+apple

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Live WWDC Keynotes! (New iPhone revealed OMG Video chat over wifi!!!!)

Hey many of us would like to be at WWDC but due to various reasons we aren't so why not follow the keynotes live with pics.
Updating every 2-3 mins its fun to read and see pics live. Its here.
Some of the updates which i liked below:
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10:37 PM "It is magical, I know it because I got this email: I was sitting in a café with my iPad, and it got a girl interested in me!." "So there’s proof." Huge cheers.
10:41PM "A friend of mine wrote this, and he sent me an email and he said I could use it. I earned more in the first day of selling Elements than I did in the past 5 years of Google ads on periodictable.com" Ouch
11:04PM "And it’s really thin. This is the new iPhone 4." Leaks were real then?
11:04PM "You gotta see this in person. This is beyond the doubt, the most precise thing, and one of the most beautiful we’ve ever made. Glass on the front and back, and steel around the sides. It’s like a beautiful old Leica camera."
11:05PM "As a matter of fact, it is the thinnest smartphone on the planet." O’rly?
11:05PM "It is 24% thinner than the iPhone 3GS."
11:21PM Dual mics, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, compass, accelerometer.
11:21PM Quad band HSDPA, 7.2Mbps
11:21PM Big cheers for that.
11:21PM "Number four, we have another new piece of hardware. We’re adding a gyroscope."
12:08PM "We made a little video to show some of the ways people might use it."
12:08PM "So FaceTime video calling. We’re really happy with this."
12:23AM "We developed a glass that’s 30 times harder than plastic."
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Catch all the action live!
Looks like apple is having the same problems as google did with the WIFI there.
You would think that apple would of done something about concidering they came weeks after google and had to of watched their presentation.
And it looks like they won't be able to show some of the key features on the iphone 4... On day one it already gets a black eye.
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Respectfully, I don´t think this information is relevant to XDA
Farm ville on iPhone
oh okay orb no problem, xda is a win mob fan site (Me too ) but same time there are some apple fan boys here. This might be useful for them ha ha
It is relevant as most users here are used to phone hardware that is far more advanced than the iPhone.
Not anymore. Yes iPhone OS still sucks and of course there is no hardware keyboard, but the new phones display alone is enough to make me a little jealous. 960x640 makes the 800x480 screen on my Rhodium feel like QVGA. When will WE get display's like this? WinMo obviously never will, and WP7 only supports up to 800x480.
I assume Android could support this resolution, but when? Imagine the HD2's 4.3" display at 960x640! LCD pr0n it would be. HTC needs to get on this quickly.
Wow impressive, Video chat over wi-fi and the app which enables this is FaceTime. Cool.
video chat and the book apps is just bs. On the other hand - the screen, the camera (+LED flash), the processor, and the antenna seem like good innovations. Hate to say it, but... Well done, Apple.
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Respectfully, I don´t think this information is relevant to XDA
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Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
Badwolve1 said:
Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
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+1 Vote
BTW, guys the glass used is 30 times stronger than plastic, really?
Badwolve1 said:
Orb, it is COMPLELTY relevant to XDA
It proves what a fail the iphone is
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You are right mate
I really hate to sound even a tiny bit pro Apple but what exactly about this new iPhone is fail? Besides the screen size it meets or bests the HD2 in the hardware department. The 960x640 resolution is well beyond anything HTC has produced (or plans to?); considering one of the main perks of our WinMo and Android phones has been the high resolution screens this point alone is pretty important.
Imagine Android hacked onto this new iPhone. Might make it arguably the best non-hardware-keyboard phone out there currently.
Hardware keyboard is still a requirement for me so it is an obvious no go. HTC has some catching up to do now, I do hope they soon announce a new Android phone with as high of a greater a resolution (and screen size, obviously) than the new iPhone.
I agree with MooGoo, further what i have heard is this new iPhone 4G has only 256 MB Ram and dont know how they though that they are going to do multitasking with that?? Either the Phone will slow down or battery power leak or can't open as many application as on win mob. But who knows may be they have done something innovative for that too.
Hardware seems nice. Software is disappointing though, I was expecting them to more towards the cloud a bit more and maybe cut that iTunes leash.

New Samsung Tab 10.1 has light leakage

Just looked at the one I got from I/O and it had light leakage pretty bad on the left bottom corner. I had to talk to a Samsung Rep and show him to exchange it. He said I was not the first one with this problem. I guess LG is not the only one with quality control issues.
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Most LCD screens will have this.
Does your exchanged unit have this?
Damn, was looking at this or the Playbook.
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player911 said:
Most LCD screens will have this.
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agree. will this ever stop.lol
Buy an AMOLED?
r4d14n7 said:
Buy an AMOLED?
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IIRC there aren't any android tablets with AMOLED display panels yet...
Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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QFT
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mysterioustko said:
Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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Haha...very true.
It's inevitable. LCD screens are LCD screens like he said.
It doesn't bother most people..
bonzai3558 said:
Just looked at the one I got from I/O and it had light leakage pretty bad on the left bottom corner. I had to talk to a Samsung Rep and show him to exchange it. He said I was not the first one with this problem. I guess LG is not the only one with quality control issues.
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This forum needs quality control with posts like these
LCD's are NOT supposed to have bleeding. i've only had 1 phone ever besides the g2x that had screen bleed and i returned it and new one didn't have it. my g2x now doesn't have it (had to get through 5 to find one though but hey problem solved).
just because most phones cost $500 these days instead of $50-$100 10 years ago doesn't mean that the bar should be dropped on quality. $500 is a lot of money not to mention $700-$1100 for tablets. theres no excuse for poor quality so don't listen to people who say you should just be ok with that. you would only be allowing companies to keep producing poor quality items if they don't get returned so the company can see first hand the profit losses from poor quality control. the reason people pay a billion dollars for a phone is so they can have a TOP END device.
its sad that people are getting so used to paying such high costs that they would be ok with paying several hundred $ for an item made incorrectly, then consider this to just be normal, and then tell others that "that's just how it is." that mentality only makes things worse for everyone in the long run.
that sucks about the galaxy though cuz samsung usually makes good screens. weird though sense they were reporting on doing a $7.8 billion deal this year with Apple to sell apple processors and LCD screens for the iphone and ipad (yeah its true, read it on engaget. apple is pretty much samsung but with their iOS) even know they were suing each other, lol. makes sense why ipad2 has some bleeding on some units though. i heard LG did some of the ipad2 screens too (from a tmobile rep). which may or may not be true though.
mysterioustko said:
Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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I think its more like buying a hummer with the tint on the window peeling. sure you can live with it, not many people will notice it, but would you still keep it or have them fix it?
halojinx said:
I think its more like buying a hummer with the tint on the window peeling. sure you can live with it, not many people will notice it, but would you still keep it or have them fix it?
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+1 to that
Foot five to that.
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I dont know why everyone just keeps saying that LCD screens just leak light. Thats not at all true. Ive had an iphone, G1, Mytouch 3g, Nexus One and G2 and none of those had light leakage. I dont understand if its just suppose to happen then why are other companies keeping their QC under control?
Dolphinwigs said:
its sad that people are getting so used to paying such high costs that they would be ok with paying several hundred $ for an item made incorrectly, then consider this to just be normal, and then tell others that "that's just how it is." that mentality only makes things worse for everyone in the long run.
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Amen Brother! And for some a TWO YEAR CONTRACT! I found from the G2Xforum how many ppl are content with mediocrity with the products they purchase. I had my G2X for a week before I took it back I've been waiting for the intial production wave to go through before going back. If it persists then ill move on to the next device.
If you think this is bad? Nokia N73 was horrible.
4 dots of leak shows on one side of the screen. How do think?
I was trying to compare it to my G2x....geez.
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Lawsuit: Apple VS Galaxy S II

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/17/apple-files-another-german-lawsuit-against-samsung-targets-gala/
Apple has filed another lawsuit in Germany against Samsung targeting the GSII and 9 other smart phones for patent infringement. So the saga continues.
Someone answer me this, when did apple come through with a design patent called minimalist.
I'm getting tired of Apple trying to seriously monopolize the mobile market. Especially since the FTC just turns their heads every time Apple does anything. It's a bit beyond ridiculous now.
UPDATE:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/...inos-latest-complaint-alleges-17-device/#saga
That's the full saga of apple vs samsung. With new lawsuits claiming that at least 17 devices are infringing upon such patents as slide to unlock, among others.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/16/apple-granted-injunction-in-germany-patent-suit-motorola-phones/
Now Apple is beginning to target Motorola as well for infringement against intellectual property, this also concerning the slide to unlock patents and others of the like.
Not to mention the lawsuit filed against the BANKRUPT Kodak.
The saga of Apple V. The World needs to end. This is becoming far too disruptive for anyone to complete goals in sales and output of devices and ideas for consumers.
It seems they've lost all interest in the customers and just want to own everything now.
Apple, everyday I hate you more and more. You're making me hate my job in this Apple Specialist Store.
To be honest, I think Samsung saw that one coming. That is why they want to the capacative buttons on the American versions.
They not gonna win. A GS2 is easily recognizable from an iphone, especially with its huge screen.
It's the bigger screen and if you look at the rounded corners it's like the GSII is a football player next to a ballerina. Very broad shoulders on that thing.
The bigger screen isn't going to be enough to save them. Either way...it won't matter. IF apple wins the lawsuit and gets shipments of the GSII halted, by that time the GSIII will be out!
Doesn't take away from the fact that we need every little victory we can get against Apple. Monopolization is bad. (insert demotivational poster here.)
Go Samsung go. Kick some butt
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Someone is a little butt hurt about the commercials. Lol.
Samsung is huge bigger than apple they'll figure it out.
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Again!?!?! lol
Interesting times we live in. We've had the horsepower wars in the car industry remaining strong for the last two decades, and now we have the gadget wars.
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lowandbehold said:
To be honest, I think Samsung saw that one coming. That is why they want to the capacative buttons on the American versions.
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They not gonna win. A GS2 is easily recognizable from an iphone, especially with its huge screen.
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It's the bigger screen and if you look at the rounded corners it's like the GSII is a football player next to a ballerina. Very broad shoulders on that thing.
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IN their previous claim they manipulated pictures of the SGS so it looks like the 3GS.
Too be honest, I think Samsung took a very close look at what Apple is doing and based drew their lessons, after all: "Good artists copy, great artists steal"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
Apple doesn't realize it but they opened Pandora's box. Apple might have a few design patents, which is always nice, but the majority of the essential tech patents are in the hands of Motorola, Erricson, Nokia and Samsung.
Doesn't matter much about the tech patents because it's all about design. But like I said earlier, the FCC doesn't care who has what when apple is in the picture. I think they all use iPhones lol.
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Doesn't matter much about the tech patents because it's all about design. But like I said earlier, the FCC doesn't care who has what when apple is in the picture. I think they all use iPhones lol.
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The FCC doesn't deal with patents.
Thought they did. Mah b.
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Thought they did. Mah b.
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Easy mix up...FTC does it.
Lol kinda sucks that apple originally stole the candy bar phone design and touch screen from the LG Prada
IRASadPanda said:
Lol kinda sucks that apple originally stole the candy bar phone design and touch screen from the LG Prada
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That's a stupid argument. Touchscreens have been on smartphones before that phone. Palm and other windows CE based touch screen phones existed before that.
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Lol kinda sucks that apple originally stole the candy bar phone design and touch screen from the LG Prada
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That doesn't come up much does it? Unless you're talking to a person in the know. The current iPhone4 design is basically the LG Prada. The capacitive touch and the UI design is basically Prada.
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Poor Apple.
This is very silly to me its like one LCD or Plasma screen tv manufacturer suing another.
Basically all LCD and Plasma tvs have overwhelmingly similarities. However, they all have a wealth of differences present so that consumers can discern one from the other.

Surface by Microsoft, Possible iPad killer

Microsoft is bringing out their own tablet which is said to be a possible iPad killer.
Here's the reveal video. Enjoy.
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Possible? It is an ipad killer! Full featured Windows 8 running a possibly ivy bridge cpu smokes an ipad anyday. And with pen support, OneNote is gonna be sweet to use
That's what Samsung labeled the "Instinct" too: an iPhone Killer. It took them nearly half a decade later to finally do so, with the SGS2.
I really hope Microsoft has really something special to bring to the table.
The key that will dictate their success with this tablet will depend on software (apps) compatibility, selection, & dev support. (Or lack thereof) --IMO
I wish that video highlighted features...
Also like how this guy looks like an obiesed vrs of Steve Jobs lol
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IIRC the x86 one weighs almost a full kilo, and that's without any cases or anything! Keep that in mind
I have to say its a heck of a machine the new windows 8 runs great on a tablet , i've had the chance to use it, so will see how they support it, but so far it should leave a mark in the industry
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I'm afraid of the unannounced pricing. The ARM variant needs to undercut the ipad for it to have a chance. That being said, I really hope it does well. It's about time Apple sees some solid competition.
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Sounds too good to be true!
This seems a very promising development, and the first thing, ever since the Kindle Fire's pricing, that would start to get tablets developed.
That said, the problem is that most of the features (stand, keyboard, pen) touted during the demonstration could be seen by iPad users as gimmicks, many available via accessories. This (along with the app environments) makes the Surface unlikely to steal prior consumers.
What it is more likely to do is grow the market itself. Metro is currently the best tablet UI being pushed (there are possible alternatives like Chameleon, but considering it's on kickstarter one can't really say it's being pushed), and the notion of having a PC-like processor in a tablet is attractive in itself. Hopefully this would drive an entirely new segment of the market - that Ubuntu tablet's been a long time coming.
Where Microsoft made their not-quite-enough-Apple mistake, however, was to announce too early. They didn't even leave a specified date for onlookers to look forward to, and now the estimates are turning into.. October? Consumers don't have that much patience, and by then the hype would have died down. A release two weeks from now would have sent so many people into a frenzy.
Edit: And, of course, the big unknown is the price. I'm not entirely confident that non-Apple people (who demonstrate higher price elasticities) would buy a secondary device that's only priced "competitively" (and, judging from the premium feel Microsoft is trying to give off, probably less than competitively). It could just fade into irrelevancy like many of the Android tablets. The "pro" version is more viable if people see it as able to serve as their main device, but that's coming three months after (October?).
Interesting name choice. I though the op was talking about the old surface at first, but then I saw that they renamed that one pixelsense, and are now calling their tablet the surface. Hmm..
A link about the name change:http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-5...names-its-old-surface-computer-as-pixelsense/
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This seems a very promising development, and the first thing (ever since the Kindle Fire's pricing) that would start to get tablets developed.
That said, the problem is that most of the features (stand, keyboard, pen) touted during the demonstration could be seen by iPad users as gimmicks, many available via accessories. This (along with the app environments) makes the Surface unlikely to steal prior consumers.
What it is more likely to do is grow the market itself. Metro is currently the best tablet UI being pushed (there are possible alternatives like Chameleon, but considering it's on kickstarter one can't really say it's being pushed), and the notion of having a PC-like processor in a tablet is attractive in itself. Hopefully this would drive an entirely new segment of the market (that Ubuntu tablet's been a long time coming).
Where Microsoft made their not-quite-enough-Apple mistake, however, was to announce too early. They didn't even leave a specified date for onlookers to look forward to, and the estimates are turning into.. October? Consumers don't have that much patience, and by then the hype would have died down. A release two weeks from now would have sent so many people into a frenzy.
Edit: And, of course, the big unknown is the price. I'm not entirely confident that non-Apple people (who demonstrate higher price elasticities) would buy a secondary device that's only priced "competitively" (and, judging from the premium feel Microsoft is trying to give off, probably less than competitively). It could just fade into irrelevancy like many of the Android tablets. The "pro" version is more viable if people see it as able to serve as their main device, but that's coming three months after (October?).
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I agree man. That marketing & deployment strategy is gonna ruin them. Microsoft needs to remember they aren't the only people in industry anymore & companies are watching each other's every move. What they introduce that's so groundbreaking today will be matched or surpassed by that October launch.
Its the APPS that we all should be worrying about.....
Good marketing, surface possible iPad killer!!!!!
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i will buy it when it was available in store
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I don't care how good this thing is. The marketing on it is absolutely horrible. Incompatible OS' between the two brother tabs. The pro coming out months after the regular. That seems like either they want everyone to buy the regular, have buyers remorse and then purchase the pro. I also heard they had a deal with Dell that made that happen. not sure.
Even the presentation was bad. Hardly any smiling. As if they're not proud of their product.
They also stole their own name. Lol.
A windows 8 tablet could be amazing. But it's probably no iPad killer. The marketing isn't there to make it be so. Unless when the commercial marketing comes, Microsoft pulls something incredible out of their butt holes.
They've also been quite vague with pricing details. Comparing it similar to an ultra book. More than an iPad. We know Microsoft customers. They want what's cheap. If this will compare to an iPad, the pricing needs to be spot on.
Also, 200th post.
I hope they will offer a low price and drive the whole tablet market prices down with them !
Awesome, simply awesome. I really love the Windows 8 Metro GUI!
I can see it being widespread in the corporate environments, since it runs Office and most native Windows softwares...
Interesting debate. While the surface DEFINITELY beats the ipad in the hardware front with its Intel version containing ultra book class hardware, it still does not have an app ecosystem that can dream to even rival apple's. With 128gb of space and the 3mm keyboard its somewhere in between a laptop and tablet, not a clear placement in either also, it will be really expensive. That said, with the right price, it might be a very good option for those who need some pc- class processing and browsing on the go, cause after everything, ipad is still just a mobile device. Don't expect it to be an ipad killer though I guess I can sum it up in one question.... Would you recommend it for someone who doesn't have a laptop and a tablet? Cause that will be this devices prospective market.
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The smartphone of the future - how should it look like?

From my early years I was trying to create the ideal design of a phone. But then Steve Jobs ruined all my illusions with totally changing the path evolution of smartphones. But you can't stop the progress, and the smartphone of the future must blow up our minds as much as iPhone did. But how must it look and which functions must it be capable of?
These points with me :
1. Let's forgot the battery
2. Update hardware with OTA
3. No Chinese pirated app stores ...
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The original iPhone was a PDA without a pen. There was nothing remotelly mind blowing about it.
In need op 10 posts, are you? Rules, we have them for a reason.
On the topic though: Google Contact Lenses. That'd be great...
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The original iPhone was a PDA without a pen. There was nothing remotelly mind blowing about it.
In need op 10 posts, are you? Rules, we have them for a reason.
On the topic though: Google Contact Lenses. That'd be great...
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IPhone really was a PDA without a pen - but if it is so easy figure out the usability of such a product why nobody did?
And look here: there are a few models with pen on the market and the most - without. I think this is the confirmation of my words. (Nevertheless, I like Android more then iPhone)
10 posts - yes, you were right. But my comments and posts can not be supposed as "spam" - I am trying to write useful staff,
Google Contact Lenses - sounds cool
Thanks for reading this
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IPhone really was a PDA without a pen - but if it is so easy figure out the usability of such a product why nobody did?
And look here: there are a few models with pen on the market and the most - without. I think this is the confirmation of my words. (Nevertheless, I like Android more then iPhone)
10 posts - yes, you were right. But my comments and posts can not be supposed as "spam" - I am trying to write useful staff,
Google Contact Lenses - sounds cool
Thanks for reading this
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Nobody did it because the touch screens weren't very good at registering fingers at the time, and the PDA was for the professional user to keep notes, not the general population.
Apple improved the screen to register fingertips (which it still didn't always do very well. You couldn't write on it for sh*t, and half the time it didn't register a touch.), but a single step improvement is by no means mindblowing. There were plenty of computer displays that already used tip-touchscreens; you found them in shops, factories... Apple just made the screen smaller.
What was mindblowing about Apple's launch of the iPhone was their exceptional marketing strategy. As much as I dislike their products (and their sheer lack of service), I have nothing but respect for their marketing team.
Yes, you weren't spamming. But making posts for the sake of getting posts, even if they're useful, is frowned upon; you're supposed to get your first 10 posts by helping others.
I also very much like the idea of foldable displays, but only if we can get them truly foldable. Imagine, your entire computer on a flexible sheet of plastic? You could stick it in your wallet, and then fold it out to 22"! I would so love that. With the contact lenses, of course (have you seen Continuum? think of the contact lenses like the CMR in that.. )
Controlled by mind...
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A Smartphone with flexible screen
^ that a real concept or a mock up someone did? I really like that. I can see that as the smartphone of the future.
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^ that a real concept or a mock up someone did? I really like that. I can see that as the smartphone of the future.
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that looks like a mock up.
I don't understand why people are obsessed with flexible screens? What I want is to reduce the input delay from 100ms to 10ms.
Nokia showed a video of a bracelet phone years ago, then the chatter seemed to just die.
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Isn't google already creating this with Google Glasses
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I don't understand why people are obsessed with flexible screens? What I want is to reduce the input delay from 100ms to 10ms.
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Because being able to put a 10" tablet into your wallet is rather convenient.
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Because being able to put a 10" tablet into your wallet is rather convenient.
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A screen that may be able to flex does not mean it would be able to fold nor will the other components such as the battery, motherboard or case.
the future? evolution of current architecture. from battery to processor.
do you guys remember when many of us laugh on iPhone 5 because it's getting taller. but now? other vendors do the same.
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A screen that may be able to flex does not mean it would be able to fold nor will the other components such as the battery, motherboard or case.
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We're talking about the future; nobody specified an era.
Remember how massive the old computers were? You needed a truck to house 100KB. Hard to imagine we can stuff 128GB into a thumb-sized piece of plastic when you look back at that. They can store TB's on plastic tape.
And when Quantum Computing finally kicks off, we'll stop thinking about physical size altogether, because we'll be talking about nano technology.
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the future? evolution of current architecture. from battery to processor.
do you guys remember when many of us laugh on iPhone 5 because it's getting taller. but now? other vendors do the same.
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The iPhone 5
got laughed at because the only thing changing with it was an extra row of icons.
No-one have followed suit, if Android manufacturers are changing the ratio from 16:9 that's to compensate for on-screen buttons.
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We're talking about the future; nobody specified an era.
Remember how massive the old computers were? You needed a truck to house 100KB. Hard to imagine we can stuff 128GB into a thumb-sized piece of plastic when you look back at that. They can store TB's on plastic tape.
And when Quantum Computing finally kicks off, we'll stop thinking about physical size altogether, because we'll be talking about nano technology.
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Kingston have fitted 1TB onto a thumb drive, well to be fair it's about a double thumb drive.
Quantum computing is a far way away though and it's very unclear what it'll do for personal computing. It'll be king for decryption and similar, if it can be utilized for graphics we'll see pretty much unlimited graphics where software will be the bottleneck. (Imagine coding a graphic engine for a quantum computer). Exciting stuff though.
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A mix of both
A mix of the new projector technology used in iphone6, with the bendable screens of samsung. With a Paranoid Rom
how far into the future? I think eventually it would be an augmentation into our pupils. Yup...in the future we'll be installing ROMs to our eyeballs.

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