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I figure this is the best place to ask for advice.
I fell in love with HTC/keyboard phones when I got an unlocked mda (i'm on att) a few years back. They keyboard and ruggedness of the phones (they've outlasted a few drops here and there) had won me over, especially after using an n95 briefly a few years ago. I got an 8525, and now I'm on a tilt (8925). I've always upgraded roms and liked trying new things, so I tried something new about a week ago.
I went the Android (ion) on sd card route, and loved it (but tried to go nand and it never worked correctly). My battery seems to last forever now (where a week ago, before I started using android, my battery was dying at around 6 pm), the speed of everything (the phone dialer seems to be running at light speed compared to winmo) and the touchscreen responds so much better. Even with the occasional freeze and crashes, I haven't gone back to winmo (except on the occasional restart and re-running haret)
It's time for a phone upgrade. I (briefly) had a tp2, but it still felt slow in winmo 6.5. And seeing how android isn't as well developed on it as it is on the kaiser, I'm looking at other options.
I'd like to keep att 3g, and have native android, AND a hardware keyboard. Does this exist? If i gave up a keyboard (though i don't really want to since I text a bit and surf the web a bit as well), are the newer touchscreens good/fast enough? I was looking at the Hero, and the ion/magic (which seem to be almost the same,though I like the price of the ion/magic), but maybe you guys can help me out? I have to go the Ebay route, seeing as how I'm stuck on att for another year (long story short, gave upgrade to family member, who has since screwed me on their end of the bargain) so I guess that's another thing to keep in mind. Help?
Depending on how much you want to spend will Ddepend on your options right now the only official android device for att with a keyboard is the backup nd I personally think it is horrible. You could spend the $529 and get an att Nexus One, which is only touch screen but is fast enough to handle input well. Plus with the many touchscreen keyboards out now it is pretty easy to transition to touchscreen. I just did this whole post using the swype keyboard and it is pretty fast and accurate. if you can hold off then there are gonna be many new handsets comming. Plus flashing new roms for android is highly addictive lol.
I just got the htc hd2 . the device is fantastic. the software blows donkey d....
In my opinion windows mobile 6.5 feels undeveloped . I know i probably havent figured it all out yet but its what i see so far.
So here I sit trying to make the best of this and hoping someone ports android over to the hd2.
thats my two cents.
If you want Android, then the Nexus is Awesome, Fast, Slim, Cool, etc. Try one out at a store to see if it fit's
i was almost ready to switch then i bought an lg expo. it is so sweet and mega fast.
Trust me, on a screen the size of 3.5+, you can type faster on a touchscreen than on a hardware keyboard
Telus Milestone is your best bet. And yes, you will have to buy it from ebay or some unofficial store.
I was a big winmo fan but they are dragging in the upgrade department.
6.5 was a minimal upgrade at best and 7 is limited on the multi-tasking front.
My son has a Motorola Droid and I really like the OS.
I'm headed for a Xperia X10 with a snapdragon processor but only after it comes to the US to support our 3G band.
That could be tomorrow or a year from now knowing SE's inability to get a device to market on time.
I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...
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I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...
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I'd definitely go with the Nexus (If funds can afford), you think that it is too much now, but it is worth it when you get it (or so I've been told by... everyone).
I would sell my soul for a Nexus One, but I already sold it to Google in exchange for an extra 70mb in Gmail, should've waited
Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better
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Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better
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I switched from longtime wm user to android and have not looked back. It is stable, fast, smooth, cool and fun Good luck
WM for me
I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice
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I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice
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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those
I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in
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I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in
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If for some reason that only your god/non-existent being knows the reason why, you do not like the phone.... I'm ready for it
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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those
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Even if those were supported in XDA my choice wouldn´t change
From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)
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From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Then you heard wrong. Not only is the phone running the second worst layer of ui for Android (it runs MotoBlur, the worst is TouchWiz), it does not use Google Search, it can't use apps outside of the market, it's made by Motorola, and it has the weirdest design of a phone I've ever seen.
And I'm pretty sure it is Motorola's 3 or 4, not sure if the Devour came out before it (I know the Droid and Cliq did though).
Crackness, you sound exactly like me when it comes to looking for a phone. I am on AT&T so I want to keep that, I want speed and the hardware keyboard is a must for me, well I have a solution for you : Motorola Backflip
Yes the design is odd, but truthfully once you hold it in your hands, it actually does make sense. True the Backflip is on Android 1.5 because of the MotorBlur but they are coming out with an update soon. Otherwise the phone is amazing. Fast and keyboard is great. Trust me, it is definitely something you should look at.
I have a choice between an HD2 or a Nexus one by trading someone for it. Which one should I get and why?
I'm gonna say nexus one even though the hd2 has android now by way of unnoficial means. I don't know if everything is fully working and will continue to work but windows mobile is pretty meh. Its always flustered t6he crap out of me albeit the hardware wasn't HD2 levels. But if you like windows or your one of those serious business types then HD2 for you.
I would really like the hd2 since Android is now possible on it. I just don't know how stable it is at the moment. Can anyone tell me what works on hd2 and what doesn't?
It's still a bit far from being fully compatible. Pretty much everything works but with certain conditions. For example, the Desire ROM IMO runs everything (even the camera), but it's not compatible with certain Windows Mobile Roms and even the factory ROM isn't fully compatible. The battery isn't lasting as long when running Android either. You're probably going to want to get a Class 6 Micro SD for it if you want some speed added to it too. IMO it's pretty damn close to being fully compatible and I feel glad I got the HD2 over the Nexus one after seeing how close it is to having Android ported to it. Still, don't go for it if THAT is the only reason you want it. Android will not be 100% done it. It'll still have moments where it could freeze and you have to manually reset it. For all we know, the developers could just get pissed and quit developing for it tomorrow so I suggest not depending on it being fully done.
I picked up Nexus three months ago...since I'm not that patient regarding firmware updating...Nexus being a real google phone relaly got me then, so after painfully deciding for something like, two weeks, i bought nexus...
if flashing newly cooked ROMS on a regular basis and feeling excited but whatever new things come out and eager to try them first, go nexus.
Leo all the way!
You have all the benefits of a mature stable business OS: WM, plus the chance to test young funny Android
I Agree with orb... I thought about selling my leo and getting nexus, but the leo seems to like me more. ;D
Leo!!
And I forgot to mention it´s great super screen!!
Nexus one ftw!!!
I'd get an HD2 since they don't make the Nexus anymore.
I am a HD2 owner, but if I had the chance to go back in the past, I would probably choose the Nexus One. However, I like both very much, but the "Google Experience" is much more attractive than win mobile 6.5.
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I'd get an HD2 since they don't make the Nexus anymore.
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I'm trading someone for a Nexus One if I choose to do so. I primarily want Android on my phone btw.
Bump, I'm leaning towards the hd2 at the moment
Keep leaning cause its the most bad ass phone I've ever used or seen. Its guarantee'd to be a show stopper at work and make all your iphoney coworkers slink off into a corner with their iapps to make themselves feel better.
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Bump, I'm leaning towards the hd2 at the moment
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Keep on Leo´s line!!
Now you can have Android on it
If you want to use Android, go for nexus. Yes you can have Android on HD2. I tried it on my TD2 also, but the battery life was horrible, and the phone gets really really hot, when used, and no call sounds at all.
Hopefully this will get better, but nobody can be sure if the port to android for WM devices will be fully functional in the future at all.
You will have a better android 2.2 FroYo experience on the Nexus.
They both have problems, nexus one is cursed with touch button problem (not sure in the new ones) anyway, the one I had was cursed with the problem. Hd2 i can not say, but will be receiving one soon. only problem is with the hd2 that People can't use windows Mobile and cry about " I want android" other than that its a good phone.
I have both.
Touchscreen on HD2 is kinda flaky at best even after hacking, but the HUGE screen is a big plus for reading e-books.
Nexus one has Trad Chinese interface out of the box, no custom ROM required. All you have to do is to get IME.
It's all about mobile OS preference. If you prefer Android 2.2, go for nexus one, but if you're T-Mobile US customer, wait for HTC Vanguard.
I bought an HD2 through upgrading my mobile contract last week and I returned it in six days for a Nexus one (bought from a private seller). Windows Mobile home screen looks nice but that's about it. The layout of OS is extremely confusing and takes a long while to get use to. The screen is very nice but wasnt enough to keep me from returning the phone. I also installed Android on the phone but it will still be a while to fix all the bugs and there are plenty and it just never feels right in terms of stability. Go with the nexus one. It is awesome. If the HD2 initially came with official android, HD2 all they way.
Guys... Im in a huge dilemma. My contract ended and it's time for me to sign another phone contract. But I have to either go for HTC Desire HD (which is current best phone in the UK market) or wait for other better android phone (e.g. T-mobile mytouch HD which has got front camera).
Open for comments and suggestions. Thank you very much in advance
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wait for nexus s or samsung flipside
If you like the phone, get it... basically if you say that you'll pass and wait for another phone coming out, once that phone comes out you'll hear about a more awesome phone coming out. Just like computer hardware, the cycle is endless.
Also the DesireHD is a pretty nice phone.
Im in the same boat as you. I decided to wait for nexus s, there are just to many good phones coming out at the end of year/begining next that will leave curent generation far behind
Wow.. I havent heard of Nexus S before. As long as any better phone release I will sign a contract for it =)
Dude you are the one that is going to be using the phone. You know what you are going to use the phone for. You know what features you want and what you do not want on your phone. You have access to the internet and can research current and upcoming phones just as easily as anyone else can.
My point here is that it's your phone, get what YOU want. I understand you are just trying to make conversation on the boards or whatever but at the end of the day we can't really help you here. We are not going to be using the phone and everyone of us uses our phone differently than the person beside us.
Get what YOU want and I promise that YOU will be happy with YOUR phone.
And please dont flame me in a response, I'm not trying to cut you down or anything here. I'm only trying to help you help your self man.
I understand what are u trying to say. But here we are, most of us like the best phone, regardless what we use it for, how we use it. Im just like other ppl, who are looking for upcoming yet unknown phone provided it must be better than the current best phone desire hd. That's my point. Dont ask ppl what u want and how u want to use it, this is modern city life, ppl wont just want a phone that can make phone calls, text, internet. We want all rounded best phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A best phone released is used to get out of time,so dont care too much about it!If you like it,go get it!
You should get what you want, but for a keyboard-less device you'd be crazy not to wait for the Nexus S. Just my humble opinion.
Agreed with the majority, I was this close to upgrading my contract with T-Mobile UK
I decided to wait after hearing about the next crop of dual core smartphones to hit the market early next year! Till then I have my beloved Hero and will be more than happy to use that till then!
I understand the cycle of "something newer every 6 months" but the Desire HD is the last hurrah for the current crop of smartphones running the single core snapdragon. Awesome phone but I shall wait till the dual cores start rolling out..
That's it. Spot on. But we will have to wait till febraury next year =(.
Btw are u sure it has a keypad?
I Currently have a Samsung Galaxy Spica (Quite crappy if you ask me, but nice for the first android device i have)
I might have an opportunity to get a HTC Desire, but that would "chain" me to a mobile phone company for the next 18 months....
I know the improvement is quite nice.... but I know Desire has been in the market for some time already... so, my question is:
Is it worth to change to HTC desire, to not being able to change phone for another year and a half
OR
Better wait for a couple of months for some newer device, since HTC desire is quite "old" (Still better than Spica, definitely)
Well, more or less, what would your advice be?
Thank you!!
The Desire S is coming very soon with Gingerbread installed. Worth the wait for sure.
Or there's already the Desire HD or Incredible S on the market, both of which are better-specced than either the original Desire or the Desire S.
Then again, if you're worried about your phone being obsolete, you could skip HTC altogether and go for one of the new dual-core handsets like the Samsung Galaxy S2, Motorola Atrix or the two LG Optimus models, the 2X and 3D.
All of those will be a step up from anything HTC have announced to date.
Yes, the point is that this HTC desire is a special offer from a national carrier which gives you a htc desire for a really low cost (less than 100 euro), and has no internet contract (Its your choice to get it or not) and a really nice price for the calls and so...
The point is that i dont want to spend 600 euro on a new phone... hell, i dont want to even spend 200...... they get obsolete too soon...
The Desire is a great phone. I say go for it!
Then customise it with CM7
Yes, my current SPICA hardly has CM 6.1... the drivers are hardly finished, the community around the development are wonderful people and they do a great effort, but are too few..... we even dont have DivX working, and games like angry birds or thunder race are not working properly....
I will try to get my hands on one Desire, hoping they wont stop supporting it for the next 18 months.... I will keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks for the advise!
The desire is a very sturdy, trustworthy device, I've tried many different devices and can't manage to pull myself away from it
Even so, it might be better to wait around, maybe get a dual core phone since you'll be stuck in contract for a while. It should still be supported by the community for a while yet, but newer phones will start getting the updates first soon, as they'll be better suited for it, and dev's will be upgrading.
If you always have an itch to upgrade, then it'd be best to wait, but either way there's always going to be new phones coming out with better hardware/software.
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Yes, the point is that this HTC desire is a special offer from a national carrier...
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And?
You say you don't want to spend even a couple of hundred euros on a phone because they become obsolete so quickly.
The Desire is basically obsolete already - at least as obsolete as any of the new dual-core phones will be in 9-12 months, probably more-so, relatively speaking.
It's obviously down to you, if you're not prepared to spend what it takes to get a newer phone, then I think you've answered your own question.
Hi I am looking at getting a new phone currently I have a htc desire and it made me fall in love with android because with my desire I rooted and flashed custom roms.
Which phone would you suggest I go for that is either out at the min or is soon to be released.
It must be android in order to compete with my desire
Thanks for your opinions
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I too am currently looking for an android phone.
I was pretty much sure I was going to get the Thunderbolt or Evo depending on if Verizon would match Sprint's current bonus minutes offer. But now I've been reading about other phones (LG G2x, EVO 3D coming soon...) and new developments such as dual core processors, etc... and I'm thinking maybe I should wait.
Depends what your budget is. Galaxy S II seems a favorite.
I think it'd be a good idea to think of what you want and then we could make some suggestions... I'm hoping for the Droid Pro II (eventually) but that's because I like keys and don't mind the smaller screen.
sephriam said:
I think it'd be a good idea to think of what you want and then we could make some suggestions... I'm hoping for the Droid Pro II (eventually) but that's because I like keys and don't mind the smaller screen.
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Since the OP hasn't been back I won't feel bad hijacking this thread.
Looks like now I'm deciding between the Galaxy S II and the Evo 3D.
Since the GS2 is going to be open source, does that mean we will probably be able to put HTC Sense 3.0 on the GS2? I really wanted an HTC and I like their UI but I think I'd rather have the better camera than 3D.
Is there another HTC phone that will compare with the GS2? Also, I read Samsung is bad about updating, but if I'm rooting and flashing a new ROM that is moot, right? The devs will update ROMS here and I can grab those, right?
It's really more phone than I think I need but I've had mine for almost a year past my contract expiring so I'm not someone who needs to replace my phone asap, I will probably live with new phone for 3-4 years. And I don't mind waiting a few more months for price drop and devs to do their thing. So I'd like to future proof it a little bit even if it costs a bit more right now, I think.
Or I get the Thunderbolt right now but it seems like I should go to dual processors and 1gb ram for future OS updates but that is kind of guessing on my part based on what I've been reading the past few days.
I'm going to use it mostly for phone, texts, email, music and internet browsing. Then once I learn more about the android apps I'd like to integrate it with my home AV system as much as possible. I'm coming from a dumbphone that I dropped my data plan for so it's just calls and texts and casual pic taking right now. Kind of excited to get a smartphone.