I Currently have a Samsung Galaxy Spica (Quite crappy if you ask me, but nice for the first android device i have)
I might have an opportunity to get a HTC Desire, but that would "chain" me to a mobile phone company for the next 18 months....
I know the improvement is quite nice.... but I know Desire has been in the market for some time already... so, my question is:
Is it worth to change to HTC desire, to not being able to change phone for another year and a half
OR
Better wait for a couple of months for some newer device, since HTC desire is quite "old" (Still better than Spica, definitely)
Well, more or less, what would your advice be?
Thank you!!
The Desire S is coming very soon with Gingerbread installed. Worth the wait for sure.
Or there's already the Desire HD or Incredible S on the market, both of which are better-specced than either the original Desire or the Desire S.
Then again, if you're worried about your phone being obsolete, you could skip HTC altogether and go for one of the new dual-core handsets like the Samsung Galaxy S2, Motorola Atrix or the two LG Optimus models, the 2X and 3D.
All of those will be a step up from anything HTC have announced to date.
Yes, the point is that this HTC desire is a special offer from a national carrier which gives you a htc desire for a really low cost (less than 100 euro), and has no internet contract (Its your choice to get it or not) and a really nice price for the calls and so...
The point is that i dont want to spend 600 euro on a new phone... hell, i dont want to even spend 200...... they get obsolete too soon...
The Desire is a great phone. I say go for it!
Then customise it with CM7
Yes, my current SPICA hardly has CM 6.1... the drivers are hardly finished, the community around the development are wonderful people and they do a great effort, but are too few..... we even dont have DivX working, and games like angry birds or thunder race are not working properly....
I will try to get my hands on one Desire, hoping they wont stop supporting it for the next 18 months.... I will keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks for the advise!
The desire is a very sturdy, trustworthy device, I've tried many different devices and can't manage to pull myself away from it
Even so, it might be better to wait around, maybe get a dual core phone since you'll be stuck in contract for a while. It should still be supported by the community for a while yet, but newer phones will start getting the updates first soon, as they'll be better suited for it, and dev's will be upgrading.
If you always have an itch to upgrade, then it'd be best to wait, but either way there's always going to be new phones coming out with better hardware/software.
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Yes, the point is that this HTC desire is a special offer from a national carrier...
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And?
You say you don't want to spend even a couple of hundred euros on a phone because they become obsolete so quickly.
The Desire is basically obsolete already - at least as obsolete as any of the new dual-core phones will be in 9-12 months, probably more-so, relatively speaking.
It's obviously down to you, if you're not prepared to spend what it takes to get a newer phone, then I think you've answered your own question.
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Hey guys, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding what phone I should get.
I really like the HD2 as far as having the huge screen and it's definitely a big plus, however Windows Mobile and it's upcoming demise is a turn off. Now I know that there are people working on porting Android to the HD2, and that's something I'm really looking forward to.
The obvious alternative would be the EVO 4G, but as I'm from England, I'm never going to get one that works over here.
The other possible alternatives in my eyes are either take a hit on screen size and go for the Desire, or wait for the Droid X. My gripe with the Droid X is that Motorola is a huge turn off for me, I've had a LOT of bad experiences with Motorola products, and I just don't trust the company.
As I'm guessing some of you can tell by now, I pretty much want a HTC phone, as I'm not so keen on any other manufacturers apart from Nokia (who don't have the kind of phone I would like anyway)
So with all this said, would you either...
A) Get a HD2, use some of the amazing custom WM roms on here and wait until a fully working and full speed Android port is available?
B) Go for the Desire and take a hit on screen size, but gain all the advantages of Android?
OR
C) Wait for a while and see if something good appears around Christmas this year and make my purchase then?
Hope I haven't left anything out, budget doesn't come into it so much as I just want some ideas.
Thanks in advance.
If you are not in a rush and can wait till December wait!
If you hardly need it now go for leo definitely!
Yeah, it all depends on how long I can stand using this stupid Samsung Jet, without throwing it in the bin.
The thing with technology is that no matter how long you wait, a few months after that there'd probably be a better spec phone. So buy one when you need one. =)
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The thing with technology is that no matter how long you wait, a few months after that there'd probably be a better spec phone. So buy one when you need one. =)
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Yeah, I realize that, I was more just intrigued as to whether there might be another big screen HTC phone on the horizon.
Read here
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Ooh, I'm VERY interested in that! Thanks for the link, any news on release date?
Guys... Im in a huge dilemma. My contract ended and it's time for me to sign another phone contract. But I have to either go for HTC Desire HD (which is current best phone in the UK market) or wait for other better android phone (e.g. T-mobile mytouch HD which has got front camera).
Open for comments and suggestions. Thank you very much in advance
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wait for nexus s or samsung flipside
If you like the phone, get it... basically if you say that you'll pass and wait for another phone coming out, once that phone comes out you'll hear about a more awesome phone coming out. Just like computer hardware, the cycle is endless.
Also the DesireHD is a pretty nice phone.
Im in the same boat as you. I decided to wait for nexus s, there are just to many good phones coming out at the end of year/begining next that will leave curent generation far behind
Wow.. I havent heard of Nexus S before. As long as any better phone release I will sign a contract for it =)
Dude you are the one that is going to be using the phone. You know what you are going to use the phone for. You know what features you want and what you do not want on your phone. You have access to the internet and can research current and upcoming phones just as easily as anyone else can.
My point here is that it's your phone, get what YOU want. I understand you are just trying to make conversation on the boards or whatever but at the end of the day we can't really help you here. We are not going to be using the phone and everyone of us uses our phone differently than the person beside us.
Get what YOU want and I promise that YOU will be happy with YOUR phone.
And please dont flame me in a response, I'm not trying to cut you down or anything here. I'm only trying to help you help your self man.
I understand what are u trying to say. But here we are, most of us like the best phone, regardless what we use it for, how we use it. Im just like other ppl, who are looking for upcoming yet unknown phone provided it must be better than the current best phone desire hd. That's my point. Dont ask ppl what u want and how u want to use it, this is modern city life, ppl wont just want a phone that can make phone calls, text, internet. We want all rounded best phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A best phone released is used to get out of time,so dont care too much about it!If you like it,go get it!
You should get what you want, but for a keyboard-less device you'd be crazy not to wait for the Nexus S. Just my humble opinion.
Agreed with the majority, I was this close to upgrading my contract with T-Mobile UK
I decided to wait after hearing about the next crop of dual core smartphones to hit the market early next year! Till then I have my beloved Hero and will be more than happy to use that till then!
I understand the cycle of "something newer every 6 months" but the Desire HD is the last hurrah for the current crop of smartphones running the single core snapdragon. Awesome phone but I shall wait till the dual cores start rolling out..
That's it. Spot on. But we will have to wait till febraury next year =(.
Btw are u sure it has a keypad?
Very shortly I will be binning my iPhone and purchasing a HTC device running Android.
I have chosen to go with HTC because of their Sense UI - no other manufacturer appears to have developed anything than can compete with this.
The only thing delaying this switch is my failure to yet decide which handset to go with.
I am looking for a top end device so the front runners at the moment are the Desire and Desire HD
Specification wise the Desire HD handset gets the win but this device isn't quite as portable as the original Desire and it appears to be agreed across the board that the HD's battery life isn't the best having only been afforded 1230 mAh whilst the original Desire has 1400 mAh, despite the HD having the larger screen and more processing power.
So its a toss up between the two, and I really am stuck.
I'd welcome any advice to help my decision or more importantly, bearing in mind the HD has been out for almost 4 months, surely there is a top end HTC Android device in the pipeline due for release in the very near future??
I have seen mention of Android 2.4 and 3.0 in other threads...has anyone come across mention of HTC releasing a handset this spring that will be running the new Android platform??
Well,you can expect them to announce the Desire HD2,aka Pyramid,at the MWC,but release date will probably be later on,most likely April or something.Right now,if you want a compromise between the DHD and the classical Desire(I have both and I can tell you the DHD is far superior performance wise,and battery isn't bad at all as second generation Snapdragons are much less power hungry) the Desire Z might be a good choice for you.Don't let the 800MHz processor fool you;it's as much a beast as the DHD is!Unless you can't put up with the hardware keyboard!
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Very shortly I will be binning my iPhone and purchasing a HTC device running Android.
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Good on you!
As for the battery life for Desire HD, it's not bad. I charge every night if I used the phone heavily through the day. For it's screen size battery is reasonable and I find phone very easy to carry around, it's quite slick.
New phones are just around the corner and I can't honestly say if right NOW is the best time to buy a new phone, especially such a expensive phone. If you don't mind then the Desire HD is one heck of a beast!
But these new phones will probably cost close to a grand, for that much you can build yourself a i7/i5 machine lol.
Yeah I've just read a few articles about HTC announcing the Desire 2 and Desire HD 2. Apparently both will be announced at the MWC tomorrow!!!
So you'd expect these new devices to hit UK shores around about April? I'll definitely wait until then for either the D2 or DHD2 although expect I'll have to fork out quite a bit for one of these sim-free!?!?
Looking forward to some HTC news following the MWC tomorrow!!
Smart move...HTC Rocks!
Just make sure it is Flashable (at least samsung has plans for signed bootloaders preventing custom firmware updates, so make sure your open platform really is open) Desire, Desire Z and DHD are, Desire2 or DHD2 i don't know but one could assume they are also. HTC would not do something as Apple-ish as this, would they?
The reason for this is that while android is the top system for now and sense is indeed great - but check my thread in general discussion - a possible announcement date for Meego, and you probably want to be able to flash to it once released (and ported functionally). All Android apps work on meego using JVM.
+ There are hidden powers in both the DHD and especially Z that is being wasted by 1) Android (whole os implementation, especially the lousy dalvik VM) 2) I have been told Z and DHD have essentially the same chip, the 200mhz difference is mainly market differentiation justifying DHD as the flagship even when lacking qwerty and not gaining much/any advantage from the bigger display since the resolution is the same. Quite the opposite, it makes it bulky and drains more battery... IMO the Z is the flagship model of the current gen and it has been clocked up to ~1,4 ghz stable that i know of)
I for one cannot wait to get Meego running on my Z and unleash the potential of the hardware.
(My advice is forget the old desire and since the next gens being announced don't seem to have a qwerty version go for the Z. It will be on sale or found cheap 2nd hand due to the new ones coming. (you must be a bit of a tech-geek since you are on these forums so you probably will come to appreciate the qwerty even if you don't realize it yet. Some linux desktop version + qwerty almost a laptop makes
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Just make sure it is Flashable (at least samsung has plans for signed bootloaders preventing custom firmware updates, so make sure your open platform really is open) Desire, Desire Z and DHD are, Desire2 or DHD2 i don't know but one could assume they are also. HTC would not do something as Apple-ish as this, would they?
The reason for this is that while android is the top system for now and sense is indeed great - but check my thread in general discussion - a possible announcement date for Meego, and you probably want to be able to flash to it once released (and ported). I for one cannot wait to get it on my Desire Z. Android is kinda messy from a technical POW and sub-optimal in performance.
(What ever you choose, do not let the desire z 800 mhz fool you to think its slower compared to DHD. I am told they have essentially the same chip, and is only market segmentation - The desire Z has been clocked to some 1,516 ghz stable...)
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OP good move on making the switch to Android, specifically a HTC device.
So I'm hoping for some big news from HTC at the MWC regarding the Desire 2 and/or Desire 2 HD....
I am in the UK so despite there being rumour of the 'Pyramid' seeing an April/May release in the US I am concerned that we will be waiting several months more to see any of these new top end HTC Android handsets over the pond here in the UK.
Any views on this? Or any idea on the wait we might have in UK to see these handsets?
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So I'm hoping for some big news from HTC at the MWC regarding the Desire 2 and/or Desire 2 HD....
I am in the UK so despite there being rumour of the 'Pyramid' seeing an April/May release in the US I am concerned that we will be waiting several months more to see any of these new top end HTC Android handsets over the pond here in the UK.
Any views on this? Or any idea on the wait we might have in UK to see these handsets?
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We seem to get the new HTC phones sooner in the UK than they do in the US so don't worry. More often than not we'll see the original (like the DHD), and then later they get a variety of carrier specific derivitaves like the Inspire 4G.
Personally i'm more interested to see where the Nexus line goes for it's next incarnation. Hopefully back to HTC with a killer Nexus 3
Congratulations, I think the Desire HD looks like a pretty awesome phone. Wish I would have waited a few months before buying the Desire to get the Desire HD.
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We seem to get the new HTC phones sooner in the UK than they do in the US so don't worry. More often than not we'll see the original (like the DHD), and then later they get a variety of carrier specific derivitaves like the Inspire 4G.
Personally i'm more interested to see where the Nexus line goes for it's next incarnation. Hopefully back to HTC with a killer Nexus 3
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With regards to the 4G, I've heard there is very little support for this in the UK?
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With regards to the 4G, I've heard there is very little support for this in the UK?
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NO support as yet. I've heard that some European countries have trials under way though.
Desire HD is cool, possibly a little on the big side coming from an iPhone, but you will soon get used to it. I find occasionally being used to the iPhone I have a bad habit of touching the sides of the screen and activating an app I had no intention of opening. But like I said you get used to it.
I also found that the voice quality of calls is higher than my 3gs used to be, and I have had some trouble getting used to the fact that up until I start to drop calls from bad signal the only loss of voice I get is a small crackle or pop and then a gap in the conversation. It's probably my only gripe. I would like to have less quality voice on degradation of signal, but not lose part of the conversation... still its a great phone and much more fun now I have rooted and modded it.
Hi I am looking at getting a new phone currently I have a htc desire and it made me fall in love with android because with my desire I rooted and flashed custom roms.
Which phone would you suggest I go for that is either out at the min or is soon to be released.
It must be android in order to compete with my desire
Thanks for your opinions
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I too am currently looking for an android phone.
I was pretty much sure I was going to get the Thunderbolt or Evo depending on if Verizon would match Sprint's current bonus minutes offer. But now I've been reading about other phones (LG G2x, EVO 3D coming soon...) and new developments such as dual core processors, etc... and I'm thinking maybe I should wait.
Depends what your budget is. Galaxy S II seems a favorite.
I think it'd be a good idea to think of what you want and then we could make some suggestions... I'm hoping for the Droid Pro II (eventually) but that's because I like keys and don't mind the smaller screen.
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I think it'd be a good idea to think of what you want and then we could make some suggestions... I'm hoping for the Droid Pro II (eventually) but that's because I like keys and don't mind the smaller screen.
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Since the OP hasn't been back I won't feel bad hijacking this thread.
Looks like now I'm deciding between the Galaxy S II and the Evo 3D.
Since the GS2 is going to be open source, does that mean we will probably be able to put HTC Sense 3.0 on the GS2? I really wanted an HTC and I like their UI but I think I'd rather have the better camera than 3D.
Is there another HTC phone that will compare with the GS2? Also, I read Samsung is bad about updating, but if I'm rooting and flashing a new ROM that is moot, right? The devs will update ROMS here and I can grab those, right?
It's really more phone than I think I need but I've had mine for almost a year past my contract expiring so I'm not someone who needs to replace my phone asap, I will probably live with new phone for 3-4 years. And I don't mind waiting a few more months for price drop and devs to do their thing. So I'd like to future proof it a little bit even if it costs a bit more right now, I think.
Or I get the Thunderbolt right now but it seems like I should go to dual processors and 1gb ram for future OS updates but that is kind of guessing on my part based on what I've been reading the past few days.
I'm going to use it mostly for phone, texts, email, music and internet browsing. Then once I learn more about the android apps I'd like to integrate it with my home AV system as much as possible. I'm coming from a dumbphone that I dropped my data plan for so it's just calls and texts and casual pic taking right now. Kind of excited to get a smartphone.
Last year we had the Original Desire, it wasn't long before it was rooted and had plenty of support.
This year we had the Incredible S, The Desire S and the Sensation and its like the Desire S has been forgotten about.
I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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It didn't carry the legacy of the Desire at all, I'm regretting getting it, it is a fantastic phone but its never gonna get any decent level of support.
Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
Problem is it was released at the wrong time, there will be little to no support from hackers either I suspect.
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still a sick phone though.
prolly once the s-off-ing gets released, more people will develop/port to desire S.
my guess is most roms could be ported over easily to DS from IS and DHD
I wonder is the Incredible S having the same issues thanks to the Sensation? I think the Galaxy SII is the Desire of 2011, it'll be the one getting all the support I reckon.
I just hope it'll get S-Off'd so I can root my device
That's all and people are doing that
It's a mid-range phone, so most people will get it, but very little of the dev community on xda will get it unless they are trying to make major developments on it which sucks D:
Is HTC not supposed to be unlocking the boot loader? Or is this just going to be on new phones?
I thought it was just new phones.
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Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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@others i am pretty sure the phone will get updates in the future...
& alpharevX team is working on software s-off & have succeeded they will release it in public soon...
Alsoo you can't say anything about it not getting updates no more
I recieved an OTA update just now (like literally 15 minutes ago) and all it adds is **** i don't want. (bloatware). Yayyyy
new software number now = 1.47.161.2
I, like others on this forum, don't really see what the problem is. I came from a Hero and got the Desire S based on its merits as a handset straight out of the box, not what it could be with rooting and modding. As a straight out of the box experience, I've been overjoyed with the performance, look 'n' feel and general use of this phone. I did pay to borrow an XTC clip and s-off'd it quite quickly and as a tinkering handset, it's even better. The important thing is I would have been happy with it as it was... the s-off and root just makes a great handset even greater
The recent (albiet buggy) ports of Miui and Gingerbread/CM7 are evidence that the Desire S has a rich and rommy future
I'm guessing that everyone posting in this thread has a Desire S in which case...
If as me you like the device (which was why I bought it in the first place) then great, I can't see any need to continue adding to this thread.
If you don't - then buy another device or IMO don't continue adding negative posts to threads like this that will mainly be read only by other Desire S owners. It's still too early to predict/guess the level of support the device will get in the future and as the last month should have shown us no-one can accurately predict what HTC will do!
We all have the device and probably will all have it for at least one year, in some cases maybe two so either way we'll have to live with. So let's at least try to be positive!
Best phone Iv had. Coming from the HD2, and more recently the Galaxy S2, I cam honestly say this phone is near perfect. I diched the Galaxy S2 in the end because the touchwiz was in my opinion behind the HTC sense interface. The S2 was buggy and battery life lousy. The des S's build quality it brilliant, has a really quality feel to it. The 3.7 inch screen is also just right.. Hits the sweetspot between portability and usability. Personally I feel the 4" plus screens make the handset to big... Feels like taking a step back. Sure, the S2s hardware beats the desires in everyway, but when it comes to usability.. The desire kills it. For starters, theres no lag when waking up the phone..shockingly there is with the s2 which boasts a dual core processor. To sum up, I feel that the desire s is an awesome handset, not the most powerful, but it's reliable, does the things you want it to and more outa the box..and once s-off'd and sense 3 components added, I feel the phones near perfect. If I had to suggest just one improvement, I'd say keep the phone exactly as it is..but add some dual core muscle.
There.. That's my two pence worth.
No phone will get manufacturer support for more than 18 months or so in the new retail world. As to whether enough modders buy it to make it better, I really don't care much. I'd like HTC to fix a few niggles, but basically that's about it. I don't particularly care if it is upgraded to Android 3.0 either.
I came from the original Desire which I rooted and tried numerous different roms infact I got addicted to flashing not one week would go past without me trying a new Rom
My main qualms with the desire were lack of internal memory and I couldn't wait for gingerbread and sense 2.1
Now the DS has all these features as standard and people are still not happy in time all the custom roms will come you will be able to root and be s-off I'm sure when the original desire came out all these didn't turn up over night
So people please be patient
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I feel that the Desire S is the most attractive HTC phone in general.
I agree, it's pretty looking, robust, not too big.