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Not sure what all the talk is about CM v.X ROM is all about

Hey all,
I have been using this site for all my research on what ROM to run, what Kernel works best, bla bla bla....its the best site by far on the net for the Android platform.
I recently (January 14th) switched over from an Iphone to the Evo 4g and I truly believe that the Droid platform is far superior, especially with the help and dedication to the developers of kernels and roms!
My question is that I keep reading all the "you have to try" and "the BEST rom is" statements about the CM roms. So, I loaded cm v6.1.2 today and maybe its just me, but I am not understanding what all the "gotta have it" is about on this ROM.
4g did not work, i did not have swype, little lines appears on the screen frequently.
I have tried soo many roms/kernels combos, it would make your head spin. I keep going back to Warm 2.2 with netarchy kernel 4.3.1.
Am I missing something?
Thanks!

Well, many people have other phones and CM works much better on them than it does on the Evo. ROM selection is part personal choice, and part maturity of the ROM. Needless to say that if you are flashing, then hopefully you are reading the change-logs and comments to see what the issues are prior to flashing said ROM. Failure to do so may cause you to be confused about what people are excited about when you dislike an individual ROM.

My question is that I keep reading all the "you have to try" and "the BEST rom is" statements about the CM roms. So, I loaded cm v6.1.2 today and maybe its just me, but I am not understanding what all the "gotta have it" is about on this ROM.
4g did not work, i did not have swype, little lines appears on the screen frequently.
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Hi, TPADriod. Welcome to the wonderful world of Android. I am not an expert myself, but I've been using CM on my Droid (1) for a while and I can give you some opinions about CM from my personal perspective.
First of all, you are right that 4G on Evo is not currently workable on CM. However, I heard that the latest nightly builds already have 4G working, and it's very likely that CM7 will ship with 4G enabled. If you are not interested in experimental build and 4G is a must for you, my advice is to wait until it's ready.
Secondly, Swype is a commercial product. CM cannot and will not violate a company's legal right and distribute someone's work. Swype is currently having an open-beta and you can try getting it yourself by going to their website and sign up for the beta. I've been using it ever since I switched to CM. HOWEVER, when the beta is over, you may need to pay for a license to continue using it. If this is a problem to you, you may want to try reverting to the original EVO (you did back up, right?) Then use Titanium Backup to create a back up of the installer and the Swype app -- I am not sure if it would work, though.
Now, at this point you may wonder why we should go through all these troubles to install a third-party ROM. If you are happy with your un-modified EVO 4G, enjoy using the Sense UI, and have no problem dealing with HTC's update schedule, you have no reason to install CM, or any other third-party ROM on any Android devices.
What CM brings to us, is an experience that's very close to what Google envisions. Some people don't like it -- this is especially true to people who like transition effect,
or richer design elements. The stock UI of Android, before Honeycomb arrives, is as plain as possible. But many people like its cleaniness and no non-sense approach.
In addition, once you install CM, the bloatwares installed by your carriers are gone. Now, some people may not agree that they are bloatwares. But some do. On the other hand, CM put back some stuffs that the carriers may intentional take out, or disallow, ex, wifi-tethering, OpenVPN, etc.
On top of that, CM may enable your phone to be over-clocked. My Droid can be over-clocked up to almost 100% higher than stock, while cutting down battery consumption, and remaining stable.
Last but not least, you get a much better update schedule than you will get from the manufacturer and the carrier. Being over 1 year old, there's little chance my Droid 1 will see the light of official 2.3 update. With CM 7, I've been running 2.3 for about a month. Even though it's a nightly build, I can feel how much faster it is than the stock Droid running Froyo. When CM 7 is finalized, I have no doubt that it will be the best experience I can get from my Droid.
My advice to you is, if you enjoy your EVO as is. May be you should just stay away from CM. However, down the road, the desire from HTC and Spring to keep your EVO update will probably fade. At that time, if you still want to hold on to your EVO, may be you should check out CM again, and it may give your EVO an entirely new life.

If the bootloader is unlocked, why no gingerbread?

I'm not sure that I understand unlocked bootloaders. If there is no lock, why is there not already a gingerbread Rom out for this phone? What is stopping any dev from making a gingerbread Rom?
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Having to rewrite that majority of the code for the OS for the infuse might be a little bit of a time constraint.
/sarcasm
But really, there is no proper port out for the infuse and I think the devs are just waiting for a gingerbread ROM to leak out, whether it is from the Canadian Infuse or elsewhere

seh6183 said:
I'm not sure that I understand unlocked bootloaders. If there is no lock, why is there not already a gingerbread Rom out for this phone? What is stopping any dev from making a gingerbread Rom?
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Simple. The Android userland license doesn't require manufacturers to release source code for the userland portion of the Android stack - the only thing that manufacturers must release source code for is the kernel.
So all device-specific userland code must be reimplemented to get AOSP running on a device.
In many cases, even if someone had device-specific Froyo userland source, a lot of changes were made from Froyo to Gingerbread that require device-specific stuff to be reimplemented. (Look at the state of xdandroid for example - Gingerbread is missing a LOT of stuff that works in Froyo.)
So what is stopping developers from a Gingerbread ROM for the Infuse?
1) Time
2) Time
3) Time
4) Probably lack of documentation on some of the device-specific stuff, fortunately the Infuse is very architecturally similar to the Galaxy S series.
5) Time
6) Lack of the right device in the right developer's hands - the Cyanogenmod guys are so experienced at device porting that between that despite 4), they could likely target the Infuse quickly if one of them had a device. None do yet, there are some threads where people are trying to line up hardware donations.
Please not that to my knowledge, there are ZERO AOSP-source-derived builds for the Infuse for any Android version. All ROM builds currently in existence are "tweaked" variants of the stock Android userland stuff.

Ah hah, I see now. I was assuming this Rom I am using on my inspire was not an official gingerbread Rom, now I know that it must be.
Given samsungs track record for updates. I'm nervous to switch to this phone because it may never receive gingerbread
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Unlocked means you can flash anything... Doesn't mean you have that thing to flash.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Unlocked means you can flash anything... Doesn't mean you have that thing to flash.
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Got it.
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seh6183 said:
Ah hah, I see now. I was assuming this Rom I am using on my inspire was not an official gingerbread Rom, now I know that it must be.
Given samsungs track record for updates. I'm nervous to switch to this phone because it may never receive gingerbread
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I'm not saying it's impossible to port AOSP GB or the Cyanogenmod source tree to the Infuse, I'm just saying it hasn't happened yet. The Infuse has been out for a few months less than the Inspire, and it took some time for CM7 to become stable on the Inspire too.
In the case of the Inspire it apparently has. The Cyanogenmod team seems a bit HTC-focused, however that's because Samsung seems to be a slightly later player in the Android game. Samsung is clearly interested in catching up - they already donated a GSII to one of the Android devs.
My guess is that the Infuse is similar enough to the GS i9000 that once the right dev gets their hands on one it won't be long. After all, we're using the CWM from the i9000.

The thing to keep in mind, the most important thing actually, is that all of these things take time AND the efforts of a team of people to accomplish. Every well-known/famous/appreciated dev I've ever spoken too about this very topic all says the same thing - they can't do these things alone OR they can do it alone but it'll take forever to get done.
Hence my donation thread

this is my 6th android phone, and I can say it's the only one I'm not in a huge hurry to put a custom ROM on
I loaded ADW EX on it, and the phone's fast enough to run it buttery smooth with no lag. I also absolutely hate Cyanogenmod's camera software, and really enjoy the native camera software on Samsung devices.
I was considering the Evo 3D instead of keeping the Infuse (still in 30 days) but I'm not sure I could move back to an HTC screen. I hated the screen on my mytouch 4g (went there from the Vibrant). Samsung also flat out makes far better camera hardware and software on their phones.
I don't see any reason to get a different phone right now

Stock AOSP ROM for Sensation 4G

Is anyone aware of a plain vanilla stock Android ROM that can be used with the Sensation 4G? Basically I am looking for the "pure" Android experience that comes on the G2, G2x, etc but without the bloatware and that is unlocked. I know there are a number of other ROM's out there that people will claim are better, but I am more than happy to start clean (and stable!) and add what I want. Any suggestions? As good as some of the other ROM's surely are, I would prefer one that came directly from Google and can basically guarantee all functionality will work. Thoughts?

There are none yet, at least none that are fully functional. i guess you will have to wait some more weeks.

senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.

I've just flashed Senseless Extreme and it's great
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?

webmaster said:
I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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are you serious? thats what theyve been saying this whole post... what you're looking for doesn't exist at the moment.

Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.

webmaster said:
Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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geoffcorey said:
A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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First, I am not asking the same question again. I simply replied to an existing thread checking for updates. Second, you clearly didnt read what I wrote or you decided to reply rudely anyway. I did the "legwork" and couldnt find an AOSP ROM on my own, so I wanted to see if anyone in this community was either working on one or was aware of one that hasnt yet gone mainstream.

The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod

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The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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Yeah, I have heard that (about senseless ROMs) from a number of people and thats why I am holding out for something better. Cyanogenmod should be good, but I figured a pure stock ROM would be released prior to that. I guess time will tell as to which comes first!

LupusHD2 said:
senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
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Senseless Extreme is not AOSP, but probably the closest we have to AOSP at present.

What would you all like to see in the next rom?

So at the moment I am currently working on developing a "bare bones" stock rom and modifying it as much as possible with scripts and such.
But what I would like to know from you all is what would you all like to see in the next rom?
Cyanogenmod?
More themes?
Faster?
Battery life?
Cool features?
I think it'd be good to hear you all thoughts & input.
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Cm6 or 7 and cooler apps to use and batter theams
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CM6 an CM7 have both been asked for in the past sadly i think the only way to get it is to mail one of the cyanogen developers a SK4g since it seams none of them have one to even begin making it avail on our phones by making the drivers an kernals from complete scratch like they have with devices like the nook. CM6 i don't know understand fully why we can't get because it is froyo based so the thing would be making a kernal (with out drivers in it from how much i understand building a android kernal). Then when creating the rom an figuring how to make it function more correctly with our odd frame work build. Honestly with themes if you got CM7 working that problem would be more or less taken out with the gingerbread theme engine they use in their roms which makes it a hell of alot easier to change how your phone looks.
Now to the people saying we need a kernal for gingerbread i understand that but then i do look at my nook color an I've tesed a ICS alpha build an have to say "um...... if a kernal is so godly important then how did they make one to run ics on a device that should never be able to run it that has bluetooth drives that were hand made because B&N never intended the device to have bluetooth an they had to hand make alot of other drivers just for the nook color. Anyways I'm getting a spare android phone in the next 10 days (xperia x10 mini) which is even capable of running gingerbread..... and has a alpha ics build.... am i missing something here?..

the kernel is what provides all of the drivers for the phone's hardware. The reason that it is difficult to build an updated kernel for the sidekick is because it uses hardware that isn't found in any other phones, and the drivers are only designed for the 2.6.32 kernel, rather than the 2.6.35 kernel required for GB/ICS.
The reason that ICS alpha builds are being released for the nook color and the xperia are because the CM devs put in the work to get the CM kernel working correctly. The CM kernel is designed in such a way that it can be updated quite easily with little breaking of drivers, but typically requires a large amount of rewriting drivers.
Basically, the reason that it came so fast to the nook color and the xperia is that the CM devs actually wanted those devices, so they bought them, and ported CM to them.
The fact is that the CM devs don't want anything to do with the Sidekick, and won't do anything with it short of someone handing them a free phone to work on.

sduvick said:
The fact is that the CM devs don't want anything to do with the Sidekick, and won't do anything with it short of someone handing them a free phone to work on.
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is there any particular reason they don't want anything to do with the sidekick?
also, i assume we haven't tried collecting a glob of money to buy an sk4g off ebay or something... have we? seems like it'd be worth it...

I'm not 100% sure why, as I'm not one of them, but I'm guessing that it's because the sidekick is perceived as a teen/feature phone. Typically the support for Samsung phones is limited, and the amount of customization from Samsung on this phone compared to previous phones would require even more work out of them.

Basically in order to get CM7/CM6 it would require the CM dev team 2 things:
1: Interest/Willing-ness to work on the phone
2: A Free SK4G to work on lol
I like the idea of the community all pitching in on buying the CM dev team the SK4G just so that they can begin to work on CM for our phone. CM would open up so many doors for new roms and ports

If it wasn't for the some slight disconfort in giving away my SK4g I'd mail it to a CM dev for them to go crazy with it.... after sending it to someone that can make the sidekick unbreakable modded >.> I'm getting the xperia X10 mini pro cause I can find them for cheap (got mine for 125 after shipping) an it has a hardware keyboard. I'll gladly pitch in money for one of the CM devs to get a sidekick though if they are interested.

it'd be nice to get a feel for the likelihood of the cm devs porting cm to sk4g if they had a phone. that way we can get more concrete on whether we should raise funds for a phone to send to them. i tweeted cyanogen to ask, but got no response. maybe someone else can get to him or other cm devs?

i did posted in the cm forums someone in the xda forums made a bounty request?

and did any dev respond?

stock GB or ICS(cm7/9 would be fine too), better battery life (the current crop of roms are terrible), stripped down lite version would be nice too( no preinstalled apps just bare min)

No one replied
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wuziq said:
is there any particular reason they don't want anything to do with the sidekick?
also, i assume we haven't tried collecting a glob of money to buy an sk4g off ebay or something... have we? seems like it'd be worth it...
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I think that none of the cm team want anything to do with the sk4g is that cyanogen himself didn't like the sk4g. So in result his cm team of followers didn't want anything to do with it. They would be embarrased to be caught with one. For some one that has worked on many diffrent phones like them, it shouldn't be hard to rewrite a kernel.
Think about it, they get cm on almost any new phone that comes out? Don't you think that every phone that comes out have diffrent drivers? Someone has to backwards engineer a driver to get a kernel out that's compatible with cm "roms". Its just a matter of having a member that knows how to code, cm isn't the only person in the world that know how to.
But then again this is just my opinion...

insanedrunk said:
I think that none of the cm team want anything to do with the sk4g is that cyanogen himself didn't like the sk4g. So in result his cm team of followers didn't want anything to do with it. They would be embarrased to be caught with one. For some one that has worked on many diffrent phones like them, it shouldn't be hard to rewrite a kernel.
Think about it, they get cm on almost any new phone that comes out? Don't you think that every phone that comes out have diffrent drivers? Someone has to backwards engineer a driver to get a kernel out that's compatible with cm "roms". Its just a matter of having a member that knows how to code, cm isn't the only person in the world that know how to.
But then again this is just my opinion...
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so pretty much we got swcred because of cm dislikement of the phone and his groupies don't want to get kicked out of their team so they don't do anything about it? WOW talk about tyrany

xtrem88 said:
so pretty much we got swcred because of cm dislikement of the phone and his groupies don't want to get kicked out of their team so they don't do anything about it? WOW talk about tyrany
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Yuup, even if it sounds rediculous, seems that way.

insanedrunk said:
I think that none of the cm team want anything to do with the sk4g is that cyanogen himself didn't like the sk4g. So in result his cm team of followers didn't want anything to do with it. They would be embarrased to be caught with one. For some one that has worked on many diffrent phones like them, it shouldn't be hard to rewrite a kernel.
Think about it, they get cm on almost any new phone that comes out? Don't you think that every phone that comes out have diffrent drivers? Someone has to backwards engineer a driver to get a kernel out that's compatible with cm "roms". Its just a matter of having a member that knows how to code, cm isn't the only person in the world that know how to.
But then again this is just my opinion...
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did cyanogen actually say somewhere that he didn't like the sk4g?
even if he did, why would he poopoo on another dev that ported cm to it? he'd want cm to be on as many phones as possible. "how dare someone do work that i didn't really want to do?" no. he's not some evil overlord with a bunch of peon devs who back off whenever he gives a stern look.. because.. OSS projects don't work like that?
also, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but they're not rewriting kernels. they'd have to update sk4g drivers for the cm kernel.

wuziq said:
did cyanogen actually say somewhere that he didn't like the sk4g?
even if he did, why would he poopoo on another dev that ported cm to it? he'd want cm to be on as many phones as possible. "how dare someone do work that i didn't really want to do?" no. he's not some evil overlord with a bunch of peon devs who back off whenever he gives a stern look.. because.. OSS projects don't work like that?
also, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but they're not rewriting kernels. they'd have to update sk4g drivers for the cm kernel.
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i know that they dont like EVERY phone that CM is on but they still "port" CM to as many phones as possible because that is their goal
i think that it could either be due to lack of interest or lack of not having the SK4G

wuziq said:
did cyanogen actually say somewhere that he didn't like the sk4g?
even if he did, why would he poopoo on another dev that ported cm to it? he'd want cm to be on as many phones as possible. "how dare someone do work that i didn't really want to do?" no. he's not some evil overlord with a bunch of peon devs who back off whenever he gives a stern look.. because.. OSS projects don't work like that?
also, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but they're not rewriting kernels. they'd have to update sk4g drivers for the cm kernel.
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I don't have the exact quotes, but they (the usual cm members) were reviewing the sk4g cm said he didn't like the fact that samsung made it, from there evry one weighed in on it..... source: it was on twitter. @koush @cyanogen and others, plus the retweet crap..

insanedrunk said:
I don't have the exact quotes, but they (the usual cm members) were reviewing the sk4g cm said he didn't like the fact that samsung made it, from there evry one weighed in on it..... source: it was on twitter. @koush @cyanogen and others, plus the retweet crap..
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so b/c samsung made the sk4g and other galaxy s phones they won't port CM to the phones?
i think if we get enough community support by having a lot of us post on cyanogen's twitter and on their forums about it we could get possibly get them to port it

[q] how about this...

Instead of making roms with all kinds of tweaks how about making an ICS Rom for tmous sensation 4g with everything working? Truthfully all I want in a Rom is an overclock kernel fm radio a browser that I can actually search with and most importantly tmo WiFi calling to work. All that other stuff (i don't know what it is) I could care less about. I just want the previously mentioned features to work and that's it. Sense overlay is nice but not even a requirement. I hear all kinds off sh*t talking about HTC devs that take forever to get their software out but at least when it comes out it seems to work. Instead of these roms that are kicked out to us everyday with a list of important features that just don't work. What is the point? Right now I'm waiting for an official ics update to come out and I'm just sticking to that. Rooted overclocked and thats about it. I have tried many of these custom roms and they all have some stupid problem which should not be happening. What's the point if no features work and the phone reboots all the time? For all this I could have stuck with any off the rack garbage bullish*t android phone. I get the same garbage performance. I mean most of the time people buy a phone because of certain features. But I don't think I'm asking for too much to have a proper stock browser WiFi calling and little or no random reboots. Basically, what's the problem here?

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Instead of making roms with all kinds of tweaks how about making an ICS Rom for tmous sensation 4g with everything working? Truthfully all I want in a Rom is an overclock kernel fm radio a browser that I can actually search with and most importantly tmo WiFi calling to work. All that other stuff (i don't know what it is) I could care less about. I just want the previously mentioned features to work and that's it. Sense overlay is nice but not even a requirement. I hear all kinds off sh*t talking about HTC devs that take forever to get their software out but at least when it comes out it seems to work. Instead of these roms that are kicked out to us everyday with a list of important features that just don't work. What is the point? Right now I'm waiting for an official ics update to come out and I'm just sticking to that. Rooted overclocked and thats about it. I have tried many of these custom roms and they all have some stupid problem which should not be happening. What's the point if no features work and the phone reboots all the time? For all this I could have stuck with any off the rack garbage bullish*t android phone. I get the same garbage performance. I mean most of the time people buy a phone because of certain features. But I don't think I'm asking for too much to have a proper stock browser WiFi calling and little or no random reboots. Basically, what's the problem here?
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If you want it so bad and apparently you think it's a piece of cake, why don't you go make it yourself if you're that impatient.
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jab74101 said:
If you want it so bad and apparently you think it's a piece of cake, why don't you go make it yourself if you're that impatient.
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Never once did I imply that I thought it was easy nor did I say I wanted anything so badly, except for working features. In fact I said I would wait for an official update. I don't understand where that reply came from. As far as making a Rom myself I would love to but to ask a question on this website is like pulling teeth so...

OP, don't forget that developers need to release a somewhat working ROM in order for people to test and find things that might be wrong with it. Also you can't really blame them if they get excited and want to release as soon as they got something.

Ha! Wow, that's a pretty disrespectful rant...
You do realize that developers on xda and other sites are not employees, right? Nobody here is getting a salary, and projects that are released are done so for the benefit of the community. HTC has recently made it somewhat easier with OTA, RUU, and ICS kernel sources... yet, many projects are based on reverse engineering a ROM instead of working from the ground up with AOSP source. If something was compiled solely from AOSP then you'd have a pretty lack-luster ROM without any of the fancy functionality I'm sure you're looking for.
Now, add to all of this the fact that google REALLY changed things up with ICS and it's understandable that hiccups are going to occur!
Relax, crack a beer, wait for your OTA, and don't expect others to put work/family/school/etc... aside so that YOU can have wi-fi calling on a custom ROM.

GROGG88 said:
Ha! Wow, that's a pretty disrespectful rant...
You do realize that developers on xda and other sites are not employees, right? Nobody here is getting a salary, and projects that are released are done so for the benefit of the community. HTC has recently made it somewhat easier with OTA, RUU, and ICS kernel sources... yet, many projects are based on reverse engineering a ROM instead of working from the ground up with AOSP source. If something was compiled solely from AOSP then you'd have a pretty lack-luster ROM without any of the fancy functionality I'm sure you're looking for.
Now, add to all of this the fact that google REALLY changed things up with ICS and it's understandable that hiccups are going to occur!
Relax, crack a beer, wait for your OTA, and don't expect others to put work/family/school/etc... aside so that YOU can have wi-fi calling on a custom ROM.
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All I want is a browser and WiFi calling.