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So in case you did did know, Cyanogen has said that they are not dropping D/S support but rather Cyanogen himself was stopping the managing of the D/S branch (he was previously the one in charge of D/S). This is why we are seeing these "unofficial nightlies"
Cwirl has come out and said that the team is looking for someone to manage the D/S branch. They want someone who uses the D/S as their daily.
Has anyone taken this position?

I am hoping Firerat or Ezterry will be the white knight for D/S

Come on some one please.... take charge for D/S
I dont want to make my "Dream" a paper weight which is not wrecked actually ;-)
I believe that Ezterry or Firerat would do that.

A lot of you are familiar (and have asked) why we don't just have/ask Ezterry and Firerat to take over maintainership. While I like this idea, it would be up to them to decide if they wanted to do so, and, personally, I wouldn't want to feel like CM squashed their creativity and personal efforts. They are doing their own thing right now, and deserve all the props to them for it. If they want to take part in CM, then awesome, we'd welcome it. But thats gotta be a choice they make. Their work can be found on XDA, and is currently your best chance of a 100% Gingerbread install for the DS line.​
via:ciwrl at CM

Why does etzerry or firerat have to belong to CM?
they are developing there own rom right now. How would belonging to CM officially help them in any way?

konnspiracy said:
Why does etzerry or firerat have to belong to CM?
they are developing there own rom right now. How would belonging to CM officially help them in any way?
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Not to mention I like their stuff way better than anything CM.

konnspiracy said:
Why does etzerry or firerat have to belong to CM?
they are developing there own rom right now. How would belonging to CM officially help them in any way?
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Personally, I would love to see etzerry/firehat to work with CM. So far I've observed all they have to do is maintain an overlay and the rest almost happens by magic and by itself (such as AOSP bugfixes, cm-features, etc)
Also, joining forces in a such scenario like it is now would work better for D/S users.
I hope that they commit their progress to CM also because it looks like that ezterry work is working better than current CM D/S development. It would be better for everyone since there are a lot of CM-users that freakly test every CM-nightly. More people = more fun
However, I do understand ezterry and firehat position. I believe that working apart from CM allows faster development and to get away from cyanogen and cyanogenMOD project shadow...
Personally, now ezterry/firehat development away from CM looks to work great, but in the feature I think I trust more in a big, constantly maintained project like CM

luminoso said:
Personally, I would love to see etzerry/firehat to work with CM. So far I've observed all they have to do is maintain an overlay and the rest almost happens by magic and by itself (such as AOSP bugfixes, cm-features, etc)
Personally, now ezterry/firehat development away from CM looks to work great, but in the feature I think I trust more in a big, constantly maintained project like CM
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I have never been a fan of CM and done all I can to stay away from his roms and bases but that is just personal choice and the base for my next bit.
I hope Terry and Firerat stay away from the CM group and keep as they are which is independent coders that work well together as this offers users an alternative to CM. It appears if the G1 community lost these two fine individuals then what choice would we have on anything? CM bases roms are all over the forums in some incarnation or other but for those of us that prefer a different flavour in ASOP builds or builds not built around CM then we would loose that one thing that makes this phone so great and as they say variety is the spice of life.
@Terry & Firerat - Simply, thank you.

Kinda mixed feelings. i think there's a lot to be gained from joining forces, in terms of faster access to bug reports and bug fixes. More eyes on the code can only be a good thing, particularly at the kernel level. At the user level, with the various customizations, not sure if there's much to be gained.
But I gotta admit, I really like the notification bar power widget, and miss it when I'm on a plain Froyo build. (Which right now is only on my TP2. And if I could get a decent/stable CM6.1 for my TP2, I'd run it happily.)

shadowch31 said:
@Terry & Firerat - Simply, thank you.
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+1 !
shadowch31 said:
I hope Terry and Firerat stay away from the CM group and keep as they are which is independent coders that work well together as this offers users an alternative to CM. It appears if the G1 community lost these two fine individuals then what choice would we have on anything? CM bases roms are all over the forums in some incarnation or other but for those of us that prefer a different flavour in ASOP builds or builds not built around CM then we would loose that one thing that makes this phone so great and as they say variety is the spice of life.
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They are all based on CM because CM provides what developers need to do whatever they want. An actively maintained source. That's even one more reason that, independently of Terry/Firehat developing is own ROM or not is always a plus to merge their achievements on CM.
Note that I am not against/favor whatever should Terry/Firehat in particular do. They do whatever they want! I am just using as an example to discuss general android/xda/etc development philosophy

Theres no reason they need to merge. Its not like either team doesn't openly share their source code. New code and bug fixes flow both ways. And in the long run, its always better to have more choices.

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Theres no reason they need to merge. Its not like either team doesn't openly share their source code. New code and bug fixes flow both ways. And in the long run, its always better to have more choices.
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+1 I'm scared if they join CM we will never get their insightful answers to our questions. How many times has Terry or Firerat been the one to shed light on your problem? Most everyone here has benefited or been enlightened by these two devs. I can't speak for everybody but Cyanogen has never wasted his time on my problems. I hope they do whatever they want to do. It's time to buy new phones and I want the phone that these two devs move to next.

I took up Tmobile on their offer for a free G2.....i feel kind of like a traitor.....but i love the phone
hopefully they do keep updating the phone along with cm...im keeping my old one and will continue updating and playing with it.....
and i highly recommend the g2

I agree with shadow... I think the days of CM for the G1 should come to an end. It has been a wonderful run, but yes...it is time for something else for these phones...
Here is what I posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916770
"Who cares? I mean really.. I'm not trying to be a douche by any means. But think of this... We have TONS upon TONS of stuff for the G1 already... Metamorphs to make it "look" like Gingerbread, ton of apps, etc...
Why not let the newer phones have their chance too??
I say we take the software that has been bestowed upon us and improve it. Make it fast, more stable, etc. I mean really... Do we honestly need 45 ringtones, 27 notifications, news and weather, and all that extra "bloatware" in these ROMS right out the gate?
I think maybe we should focus on making a ROM or ROMS smaller, faster, nicer, etc. I know I for one don't "need" all that extra stuff in the ROM... And if I did, I could install it my SD card, keeping the ROM lightweight, fast and stable.
Now, I am not developer, but I damn sure am NOT afraid to try new stuff on my phone. Look at my sig... The ROM I'm running is stupid fast and stupid stable, and I still stripped out over 10MB of "extra" stuff, and still have all the functionality that it was meant to have."
**Just an example of some of the "extra" things we could do to these phones... Think of the PSP field... People, including myself, have modded these to the extreme! Lighted triggers, etc... Check out my sig and click on the last link...

Awesome discussion going on here. I really like the ezterry and firerat's work for gingerbread on D/S. These two developers are really superior developers in the android community. They both work at the source level producing totally authentic roms. Also Looking at cm they are also still at the nighlies and we are at alpha. It does take time to port something new and at the speed we are going is really amazing we had basically nothing working at the beginning. Now almost everything works on the ezterry's gingerbread for D/S. What we need now is just some speed enhancement and some bugfixes. I believe over no time we will have a really good gingerbread rom that can be a daily driver. Also there are people working on the CM7 for dream sapphire as well. I am sure we will definately see CM7 stable on our devices as well even if it takes some more time.

shadowch31 said:
I have never been a fan of CM and done all I can to stay away from his roms and bases but that is just personal choice and the base for my next bit.
I hope Terry and Firerat stay away from the CM group and keep as they are which is independent coders that work well together as this offers users an alternative to CM. It appears if the G1 community lost these two fine individuals then what choice would we have on anything? CM bases roms are all over the forums in some incarnation or other but for those of us that prefer a different flavour in ASOP builds or builds not built around CM then we would loose that one thing that makes this phone so great and as they say variety is the spice of life.
@Terry & Firerat - Simply, thank you.
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I take a whole different approach. Cyanogen really has been here for us for a very long time. He was not the first, nor he will not be the last great modder. But you cannot say that the impact CM made is not significant. May I ask, one year before now, what mod did you run on your phone? Cyanogen? Dwangs? Enoms? Bens? WG-build? Kings? Hero? I'm willing to say that you probably tried all of them. They all had their ups and downs, but do you know which one of them is still on my nandroid? CM4.2.15.1. For me, that was the most stable build.
Many phones came out since then and devs came and went. Some were skilled wonders like cyanogen and some just copied and pasted bits and pieces. I particularly remember Eclair. It was basically kick ass when we had the first builds out even though everything was broken. I used to use king's 1.9 as it was the fastest. Slowly, everything started falling into place. Live wallpapers were taken apart and optimized, features were added, NCommander helped to reverse engineer the camera, 3D drivers came in (which F*cked up the Live Wallpapers, a problem we still have to this day lol, just try to run the nexus LWP on OE and tell me how crazy smooth it is). The only problem left was the camcorder. By then OpenEclair led by Wes Garner was the best. Finally 1.3 came out and it was amazing. Wes opened a new thread on the very promising OE2.0, but that quickly faded. From that point, I can't remember how much time has passed. People were over the thrill of eclair and going back to donut. Then out of nowhere CM comes out with the test builds of CM5.0.7. EVERYTHING WORKED! Noone else was able to do this. He wrote drivers from scratch. Just ask Jubeh, he was never able to make the camcorder work on his AOSP build. The kernel was a much newer 2.6.32, performance was amazing. It really breathed new life into my phone.
By the time of Google IO when Froyo dropped by, CM was at 5.0.8 and he decided to expand his team from just the Nexus, Droid, and G1 to 7 more devices like the desire and the hero. That is probably when our phones started to suffer a little. Instead of being more tailored to our specific device, it became more tailored to the higher end phones. CM6 finally rolled out and everyone was super exited again. The system required more resources than Cyan's hacked together drivers could deliver. People started complaining, and this is when the complaints about Cyanogenmod really started coming in. When the MT3G OTA rolled out a few months later people in the G1 section had a little bit of a sour taste from CM. People complained and moaned, and hell, some guy even cursed him out on twitter for an issue with MMS (who remembers "FIX THE ****ING GODDAMN SMS"). I think that was the last straw for Cyan, he put the G1 more as a backburner than a daily driver, I mean, Who would you invest time with, a community that cares for your work (Nexus) or one that complains and curses him out (G1)? If we were a little more patient and more supportive I'm sure most of you guys complaining now really wouldn't be.
Since then I've got a G2. I love the phone, and I love CM. Gingerbread is awsome, neocore tops at 58 FPS, quadrant easily reaches 3000, the works. I've really been removed from the G1 section since then, so I can't really comment on ezterry's roms (Somehow my G1 has an exploded battery lol, and I haven't used it in weeks).
I really did not mean to write a story, and thanks for those who took the time to read it, and sorry if anything is out of chronological order. I guess the moral of this whole long story, is that you should treat your devs with respect. You guys are sitting with 3 year old hardware, and just because someone isn't here anymore to defend his work doesn't mean you **** on his work.
Lol, I'm too melancholic, so I 'm just gonna list the things I remember most about this section.
-my first time flashing a radio. My phone rebooted and I was going totally crazy
-use the search! Don't post in development! Your mom is ugly! posts
-"bricking my phone" I spazzed out when I accidentally did a fastboot wipe and my phone wouldn't turn on LOL
-first time I saw the droid red eye boot up on my phone and using LWP's
-the whole incident with Kingklick when he used his winzip skills to copy jubeh's rom, and ended up with all his threads closed. Poor guy (where we got "kanged from")
-Using CM6 for the first time with all the extra options under CM parts!
-Before Firerat the genius came up with custom MTD, we had to run hero roms with system apps in both system and data, and everything else on sdcard!
I better stop now, its getting late lol. I guess my sig sums it up best:
"Thanks to all the devs that make me love my phone!"

tried flashing samsung galaxy s 4g 2.3.4 leaked rom...

so i got bored and tried flashing a samsung galaxy s 4g leaked 2.3.4 rom... i did it thru odin everything went fine after it got done flashing, sound booted up but screen did not turn on for me... i tried taking the battery out and turning it back on... nothing but the sound coming on, then i tried going into download mode it wouldnt let me. so i guess i bricked it. but anyways went to tmobile got a new sidekick. so my question is if im able to flash thru odin successfully and the boot sound comes on, is it possible to flash a samsung galaxy s 4g rom if a dev put some work into it?

It shoulb be possible but first the would have to still get a. Ginger kernel that works with our hardware
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Odin flashing is nothing but a special way of writing data to the flash memory on the phone. It in no way means the software being flash works on the platform it was copied to.

just because the sound driver works, doesn't mean that anything that actually matters would work.

You could use JIG to force it into download

2.6.35 kernel source for Galaxy S Series phones was released by Samsung. So someone good enough to do it should be able to now. Its just finding a developer good enough to do it.
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Although it's technically possible, our phone has entirely different modules and drivers from every other Galaxy S phone. So although yes, there is technically a source for the Galaxy S, there's no source for our specific phone.

Shouldnt matter. The Dream and Sapphire didnt. They were never meant to have GB. Same with some other phones. It needs build for our phones using those sources.
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The dream and sapphire have a team of the best devs that exist on Android, including Cyan himself. Half of those devs work for HTC or Samsung. Building the general Galaxy s source for our phone wouldn't even boot correctly, as it wouldn't have any drivers to make any of the hardware work.

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The dream and sapphire have a team of the best devs that exist on Android, including Cyan himself. Half of those devs work for HTC or Samsung. Building the general Galaxy s source for our phone wouldn't even boot correctly, as it wouldn't have any drivers to make any of the hardware work.
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They do have the best developers. Cyanogen is not one of them anymore. And hasn't been in quite a while. None of them work for any companys like that except for Cyanogen. I didn't say to just build the source. I said to use the source to tweak and build for the sidekick. It can be done. I wish I could do it.
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There's a reason that there's no CM7 on the Dream/Sapphire, and that's because CM quit developing for it. there's plenty of them that work for companies. the hardware changes for the sidekick require much more than just minimal tweaks, that would require essentially rewriting drivers to be a part of a new kernel.

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There's a reason that there's no CM7 on the Dream/Sapphire, and that's because CM quit developing for it. there's plenty of them that work for companies. the hardware changes for the sidekick require much more than just minimal tweaks, that would require essentially rewriting drivers to be a part of a new kernel.
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There is CM 7.1 for the Dream/Sapphire because me and a few others have built it. Cyanogen only quit developing for it officially. And i didnt say minimal tweaks. I said tweak. I understand its a lot of work thats why i said we need some developers here good enough and willing to do it.
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Then go find some. If you're not going to appreciate the devs who are here, who try their best to work on this phone, then do it yourself. If you can't do it, then find other devs, or be grateful for the time we put into our work on this phone, rather than constantly telling us that we are inadequate.

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Then go find some. If you're not going to appreciate the devs who are here, who try their best to work on this phone, then do it yourself. If you can't do it, then find other devs, or be grateful for the time we put into our work on this phone, rather than constantly telling us that we are inadequate.
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Never once did i say you guys were inadequate. I appreciate your guys work. I was just saying we need a developer that knows how to bring us CM. No reason to get mean. I never said the roms here were bad. We need these roms. A variety is good. Not everyone wants CM. But some do. How did you take anything i said as being directed to you? And if you want to be truthful. You guys are constantly taking shots at revolutions work. So calm down just a bit. We all appreciate the work you do. And if i could bring CM to the Sidekick, trust me, i would. And also trust that i have been trying to find other devs to bring CM to the Sidekick.
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I work with Revolution on things that he needs help with, I haven't been taking shots at him. Some do, but I don't. My apologies if it was misplaced, I guess I had lumped you in with all the kids who were so used to having CM that they expected it to be done within a month of the phone release, and got super upset when it wasn't done, my bad.
If nothing else, this has made me want to try porting the kernel again, I'm gonna give it another shot, to see if I can come up with another way to do it. We'll see what happens, once again, my bad, I'm sorry.

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I work with Revolution on things that he needs help with, I haven't been taking shots at him. Some do, but I don't. My apologies if it was misplaced, I guess I had lumped you in with all the kids who were so used to having CM that they expected it to be done within a month of the phone release, and got super upset when it wasn't done, my bad.
If nothing else, this has made me want to try porting the kernel again, I'm gonna give it another shot, to see if I can come up with another way to do it. We'll see what happens, once again, my bad, I'm sorry.
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I didnt mean to come off as a prick. I definetely know it will take time. Of course i want it, but i can wait. Good luck with the kernel. Hope you get it. Im sorry also.
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I know you're still actively working on the CM 7.1 project for the D/S, did you have any interest in working with us on projects for the Sidekick?

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I know you're still actively working on the CM 7.1 project for the D/S, did you have any interest in working with us on projects for the Sidekick?
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Id love to. But, right now my internet is off. As soon as its back up and running then id be glad to do what i can to help when im not working on the Dream/Sapphire. I want to try to keep CM alive for them. Ill let you know as soon as its back up and running.
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Complete CM7 & MIUI

Hi everybody!
Maybe I can seem really annoying but, since we're waiting for kernel 3, cannot devs focus on CM7 or miui in order to let camera record videos?
I think it is a good idea and it won't oblige anybody to upgrade to ics if they simply dont want! (for example I dont like the "speed" of ics and prefer gb actually)
I hope this tread will mean something for someone
Regards.
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Siso93 said:
Hi everybody!
Maybe I can seem really annoying but, since we're waiting for kernel 3, cannot devs focus on CM7 or miui in order to let camera record videos?
I think it is a good idea and it won't oblige anybody to upgrade to ics if they simply dont want! (for example I dont like the "speed" of ics and prefer gb actually)
I hope this tread will mean something for someone
Regards.
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That's a nice thought there. CM9 still has a lot of bugs in it and there is still a lot of work to be done. The ICS roms need kernel 3.x as you know and hillbeast is doing great. It I have been following the kernel 3.x development thread and it seems that hillbeast would have a the device booting soon. For devs like dhiru it would be too tedious to work on CM7 as he is already working on CM9 and the kernel. CM9 is pretty smooth and the camera occasionally force closes.
Yes I do agree with you when you say users should not be pushed to use ICS. Hope cm7 finds devs working on the camera.

CM9 is the future.. It will take the same effort to fix bugs on CM7 as on CM9..
Asking a dev to work on CM7 with CM9 development at its current state is pretty unnecessary, and I don't think any dev would even be interested. Why would anybody work on something that's supposed to be fizzing out..

As dhiru said,working on CM7 is double works for him.He is also busy with his life now.And yes,who don't want a fully complete rom? But developers are human like we too.You cannot say that now they are waiting for kernel 3.0,therefore they have time now. No, they need to spend time to their friends, family, their study etc..Lastly, the most important is they work for the community with no salary. We should appreciate their work rather than keep demand to them.

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As dhiru said,working on CM7 is double works for him.He is also busy with his life now.And yes,who don't want a fully complete rom? But developers are human like we too.You cannot say that now they are waiting for kernel 3.0,therefore they have time now. No, they need to spend time to their friends, family, their study etc..Lastly, the most important is they work for the community with no salary. We should appreciate their work rather than keep demand to them.
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so you think that once kernel 3.0 will be out, they don't have any kind of "life"?
i said that, it's a good choice to complete cm7 and this period of "tranquillity" is the best one, since it's "freer" than once kernel out.

Siso93 said:
Hi everybody!
Maybe I can seem really annoying but, since we're waiting for kernel 3, cannot devs focus on CM7 or miui in order to let camera record videos?
I think it is a good idea and it won't oblige anybody to upgrade to ics if they simply dont want! (for example I dont like the "speed" of ics and prefer gb actually)
I hope this tread will mean something for someone
Regards.
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+1 all the way for u man ! i honestly thought of this before and even asked dhiru and hes completely into ics development, so thats a no . anyways its wonderful having him work on ics i wish sum1 fixes those in cm7

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+1 all the way for u man ! i honestly thought of this before and even asked dhiru and hes completely into ics development, so thats a no . anyways its wonderful having him work on ics i wish sum1 fixes those in cm7
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getting a fully stable aosp rom is like a dream which will never come true for us. I know I am saying in a very negative way but its a fact guys that we have very few developers who also want some help from other top developers of other community who are damn busy with their development & they even dont know that a phone whose name is "galaxy SL" exist in mobile world. My friends also said me many times that they know galaxy s, s2, s3, ace & many more phones but they haven't heared anything about galaxy SL phone.
Its all about plenty of developers needed for good development which we are lacing from 1st day of release of this phone. I am emotinally attached with this phone & our community members, developers & thats why I use my phone with full of interest Otherwise I would have sold it so many days ago.
Regarding cm7, cm9, miui or any aosp rom I will only say this much that if any develoer will make hd video recording working then just within a week we will get official cm7, cm9...etc. But in my opinion it will never happen. We have to always live with a phone having good aosp rom but with lots bugs....ALWAYS...!

Agree with the essence of this topic.
We, i9003 users, don't have a custom ROM, that is bugfree.
I am willing to donate to whoever would spend time and effort to make "video recording" work on a custom ROM. Again, I'm not a developer and am not sure if this is even possible. I used to be a good c and java programmer about 12 years ago, but haven't been coding since then.
On the other hand, I'm also willing to wait for kernel 3 and make sure we have the latest stuff for our phones.
JMHO

I honestly think OP is right. We need to have a Rom that is bugfree. That way, many people won't feel bad going back to those stock ROMs which are nothing but a headache being slow and awful to work with and to look at. Most people just want a bugfree AOSP ROM.
On another note, it will be a pain for the devs (Dhiru), who promised us CM9. Nobody wants to do those things which they weren't supposed to. It will also be a pain for the community to donate a device to another dev. Seeing the chance of the Sense 4.0 donation request from many people, i don't think there are so many people in this community who can make it up for donating 2 phones in really short intervals, or at similar time.
And for the blow, Jellybean 4.1 is gonna be here anytime. SDK (And Sources too, i think) will be released today (Remember, first CM9 started with SDK builds), and update will be pushed to phones such as Nexus and Galaxy S3 in Mid July. So now, should the devs should still concentrate on fixing GB bugs? Or should the fix the CM9 bugs first? Or should they start porting Jellybean?
Just my POV.

I guess pushing for jellybean would be pushing too far(unless a dev dares to differ). I'll be content with a bugfree ICS ROM.

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getting a fully stable aosp rom is like a dream which will never come true for us. I know I am saying in a very negative way but its a fact guys that we have very few developers who also want some help from other top developers of other community who are damn busy with their development & they even dont know that a phone whose name is "galaxy SL" exist in mobile world. My friends also said me many times that they know galaxy s, s2, s3, ace & many more phones but they haven't heared anything about galaxy SL phone.
Its all about plenty of developers needed for good development which we are lacing from 1st day of release of this phone. I am emotinally attached with this phone & our community members, developers & thats why I use my phone with full of interest Otherwise I would have sold it so many days ago.
Regarding cm7, cm9, miui or any aosp rom I will only say this much that if any develoer will make hd video recording working then just within a week we will get official cm7, cm9...etc. But in my opinion it will never happen. We have to always live with a phone having good aosp rom but with lots bugs....ALWAYS...!
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That's so negative.
CM9 is nearly bug free, (Except current known bugs), so no it's not a dream..
I kinda agree with OP, but not only hllbeast is working on kernel 3.x, dhiru and crack(-can't remember) are working on it too, so they're not "free".

Skander1998 said:
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That's so negative.
CM9 is nearly bug free, (Except current known bugs), so no it's not a dream..
I kinda agree with OP, but not only hllbeast is working on kernel 3.x, dhiru and crack(-can't remember) are working on it too, so they're not "free".
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Sorry for my negative thinking but I have seen development of this device from very start & I am pretty disappointed with it. Anyway if I become wrong in future & if my dream come true then I'll be the most happiest person on earth

vishal24387 said:
Sorry for my negative thinking but I have seen development of this device from very start & I am pretty disappointed with it. Anyway if I become wrong in future & if my dream come true then I'll be the most happiest person on earth
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I think it will come true, the number of developers increased, that can be only good

Skander1998 said:
I think it will come true, the number of developers increased, that can be only good
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agree with skander here...the number if devs have increased a lot since the cm7 days
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CM7 bugs could be a very little one... But if no developer does anything we cannot do anything.
Gb is very very very good for our phone and without 3.0 ics is pretty unstable...
If developers can do CM7 why spend time with ics that needs 3.0?
First finish CM7 then, once kernel out, ics!
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Siso93 said:
CM7 bugs could be a very little one... But if no developer does anything we cannot do anything.
Gb is very very very good for our phone and without 3.0 ics is pretty unstable...
If developers can do CM7 why spend time with ics that needs 3.0?
First finish CM7 then, once kernel out, ics!
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"Once kernel out"
Lol, who is developing the kernel? developers, and everyone not only hillbeast, so they're busy already.
Just wait don't be a pain in the ars.

Siso93 said:
CM7 bugs could be a very little one... But if no developer does anything we cannot do anything.
Gb is very very very good for our phone and without 3.0 ics is pretty unstable...
If developers can do CM7 why spend time with ics that needs 3.0?
First finish CM7 then, once kernel out, ics!
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Developers here, do this development for the sheer excitement of it, not for money.
I can see people are very excited about CM9 and ICS. Developers are people too, and do what excites them or what feels like a challenge.
It's quite similar to what happens when you get a new phone. I had a nokia E63, which i used to love and did use/try every feature/app for that phone. But, I rarely do anything except make phone calls from that device now. All my excitement is for my first android 9003.
Just an analogy to explain why excitement has died. Hope it makes sense.

Cyanogenmod 9 RC1 is out 6-26-2012

Here you guys go! Enjoy
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-267/announcement-24-cyanogenmod-90-rc1-released-2012-jun-26/
EDIT: It appears as though it's still being uploaded to the servers, as I don't see it in the download section yet. I'm sure it'll be up shortly.

Hopefully there will be more details on things.
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Download is up.
Wait never mind. It says download but doesn't look available.
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i dont get that forum or site, somedays i can log in on the forum and others (like yesterday and today) i get a "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" page and i cant login. and yes i've cleared cookies and all that, i even get it on my phone

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Download is up.
Wait never mind. It says download but doesn't look available.
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Yeah, I don't see our device on that page either.

Cause it isn't going to happen... think it was just a fluke, I looked at the p990 thread earlier and saw nothing on the matter and they'd be blowing up compared to us. So I think it was just a misunderstanding
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Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.
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Not coming for G2x I guess, not until LG/Nvidia release something.

All we can do is hope an official ICS release is made for the G2X or the O2X so we actually get hardware acceleration...

i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms

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i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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Cyanogenmod is split into teams. Ricardo works on our phone and he's the one that made ics even possible for us. As great as our devs are, they're all using his fixes.
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dodgefan67 said:
i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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Aren't you the beta tester for someone on these threads? You should learn a little more before saying things that are incorrect to the public... Yes our group for the G2X is doing some awesome work, but none of those are actually usable for a lot of us. I use my phone actually, alot and ICS is no where near usable, I don't even record or anything but even taking a picture and exiting out the app a certain way will cause for a reboot to be able to take a picture again... and like monkee said, Ricardo (Cm_arcee) is the CM dev for our phone and almost if not all LG line of phones. If CM team were to release an official RC it would be with fully working everything at least. That's why we were excited with it, compared to what is available now.

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Cyanogenmod is split into teams. Ricardo works on our phone and he's the one that made ics even possible for us. As great as our devs are, they're all using his fixes.
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totally forgot about arcee and as far as all the roms here using his fixes i dont see that as completely true as there are some roms here that are using AOSP pure so not using CM at all. unless (and this may be possible) his fixes are getting added into the code upstream then in a round about way those using AOSP would be using his fixes
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Aren't you the beta tester for someone on these threads? You should learn a little more before saying things that are incorrect to the public... Yes our group for the G2X is doing some awesome work, but none of those are actually usable for a lot of us. I use my phone actually, alot and ICS is no where near usable, I don't even record or anything but even taking a picture and exiting out the app a certain way will cause for a reboot to be able to take a picture again... and like monkee said, Ricardo (Cm_arcee) is the CM dev for our phone and almost if not all LG line of phones. If CM team were to release an official RC it would be with fully working everything at least. That's why we were excited with it, compared to what is available now.
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and yeah im a beta tester for Genesis and what did i say that was incorrect? and just because im a beta tester does not necessarily mean i know everything there is to know about android, but i know enough. i didnt mean to offend CM or people who love CM, but ive used it as well and really it just comes down to preferences. i truly dont think that CM is the be-all-end-all of G2x roms...thats all im saying
and why would anyone think that when CM releases a rom that it will be error free or have all features? i've been using 7.2 and for a few releases bluetooth call audio isnt working and that is the case with 7.2 stable, so your argument about having everything working doesnt hold any water

Don't mean to sound like I'm bashing you but I don't mind spreading the knowledge I've gained over the years of basic rooting and android...
None of what you see except for the OTA stock based roms are doable without the CM team... EB AOSP included. It says on their 1st page "A BIG THANKS TO CM-TEAM for they're amazing work without these guys hard work and great features none of this would be possible for me..." it's just how it is, Steve (cyanogen) Kondik has been at it since the G1 days... so CM is pretty much the "be-all-end-all of G2x roms" if your phone didn't function well on stock... every phone is like that, not just the G2X, other wise we will have stock based roms with tweaks here and there but making the lock screens and coding them out to where they function like they do is mostly and all Cyanogen... This is what I've gathered over the years if I'm wrong about some of it, I wouldn't surprised... Since I've been rooting and everything for the past 4 years, I should be a Dev by now but I'm too lazy for that plus work, school and a social life, I don't have the patience either haha.
7.2 stable is not stable but it is about 100X more stable then CM9 in my eyes and lots others, some people have no issue with it being the way it is but I'm super picky and 23 years old, I go out a lot and answer lots of calls, need stable battery those sorts of things, ICS is none of what I need or want on the G2X... also why I'm switching phones shortly.
again I didn't mean to attack, just opinionated I guess lol.

no worries, i didnt take it that way, im pretty opinionated as well
and you have great points about how you use your phone and what you need from it. i guess thats where i need to make a mental note that not everyone here uses their phone the same way and want different things from it and the software that runs on it
and i did not in anyway mean for my posts to sound like i was bashing cyanogen (dont know him well enough to call him Steve LOL). what they do is incredible and they (and all the other devs here) make flashing our phones fun (at least for me)
i think this can be let go, no harm no foul?

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no worries, i didnt take it that way, im pretty opinionated as well
and you have great points about how you use your phone and what you need from it. i guess thats where i need to make a mental note that not everyone here uses their phone the same way and want different things from it and the software that runs on it
and i did not in anyway mean for my posts to sound like i was bashing cyanogen (dont know him well enough to call him Steve LOL). what they do is incredible and they (and all the other devs here) make flashing our phones fun (at least for me)
i think this can be let go, no harm no foul?
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I in know way know him lol, just have followed him for years, he's an android celebrity after all... and definitely no harm no foul!
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I told everyone that Ricardo promises to port it as soon as he gets his hands on it. I had a long conversation with a friend last night about these fauxm9 ROMs. If you read my interview with Ricardo you would know he totally regrets his decision to release this crap. Source has even been pulled from cm. Our "CM9" source is a pile of app breaking hacks. I have the upmost respect for our devs, it is not their fault, but they have put soooo many band aids on this turd that I've noticed stability diminishing with each release. Too many patches, no real fixes. If anyone has noticed, ics releases have slowed dramatically. On the other hand, CM7 is on the brink of perfection, yet nobody's doing any kangs. What's left on CM7, blue tooth? I'm sure if devs worked on it they could figure it out in no time. Anyway, that's my opinion, and it's formed from pretty good sources.
I'm sure everyone knows what great friends mt3g and I are, but I stand by his his last comments. CM9 doesn't exist for our phone. Period.
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I told everyone that Ricardo promises to port it as soon as he gets his hands on it. I had a long conversation with a friend last night about these fauxm9 ROMs. If you read my interview with Ricardo you would know he totally regrets his decision to release this crap. Source has even been pulled from cm. Our "CM9" source is a pile of app breaking hacks. I have the upmost respect for our devs, it is not their fault, but they have put soooo many band aids on this turd that I've noticed stability diminishing with each release. Too many patches, no real fixes. If anyone has noticed, ics releases have slowed dramatically. On the other hand, CM7 is on the brink of perfection, yet nobody's doing any kangs. What's left on CM7, blue tooth? I'm sure if devs worked on it they could figure it out in no time. Anyway, that's my opinion, and it's formed from pretty good sources.
I'm sure everyone knows what great friends mt3g and I are, but I stand by his his last comments. CM9 doesn't exist for our phone. Period.
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Couldn't agree more .

Right! I love ICS and CM9, but fact is, these latest kangs of kanged kangs are soooo unstable it's comical they're being released. Focus should turn to CM7 until cm or lg releases something for ICS. Trust me, LG has to do ics for the O2x, it will be here soon enough.
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Is there a Stable ROM?

Been using the bullet proof rom since I got this phone about 10 months ago, as much as I would like to switch to something better, I cant because it looks like almost every rom available is pre-alpha pre-beta, comes with a bunch of things not working, or has battery issues.
I know the Doubleshot isnt a popular phone, but this is really starting to suck. Seems to me that someone decides to build a new rom, makes a few updates over 2-3 months, then completely abandons the project due to getting a new phone. Wash, rinse and repeat.
Id love to have a cyanogenmod 7 mod, yet alone 9 for this phone, or even a stock ICS 4.04 rom, but it doesnt look like its ever going to happen with this phone. I think this will be the last HTC phone I buy, ive had 3 of them (one was WinMo 6.0) and none of them had official updates. All I can do now is watch people post a ROM, provide a few updates, then completely abandon the project.
What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.

Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?

Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
Blue was kind enough to post system.img and boot.img from the latest ota ( links could be shot because of a goo crash ) and dsi made the dsixda kitchen that will cook them images into a rooted Stock ROM. The kitchen will need a file added to tools/edify_defs ( its a script that allows the kitchen to know the partition locations of your device ) because he dropped support a while ago, but it works great as a tool. So you could always start there and once you get some things under your belt you could jump in and lend a hand in this long term support you are seeking?
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I do think that people arrive at your conclusions due to three main reasons:
- The misunderstanding that developers are doing this for the users. ( some may, by far most are not)
- The user mentality of owning a smart phone. You want to have this device as long as you can, and get the most out of it.
Most devs see it another way. They want to stay on the cutting edge and try to break new ground. Regardless of how awesome a device is at launch, you are still looking at a limited window of time before it's old hat.
I think that more and more you will be seeing devs moving on more quickly due to the commercial success of the smart phone. Not just an expensive device for a few, anymore they are a dime a dozen for the many.
I've owned 3 doubleshots, still have two. Have an SGSIII, and am thinking about picking up one of the SGSIII international models.
...and that is fast becoming the M.O. of development. Squeeze out whatever learning you can until you benefit more from newer hardware.
Some devs will work on a device until it's about to or just starting to lose it's resale value so they can minimize the move forward.
- The third - and arguably most important reason - is the average user has no idea how much time, effort but most of all frustration goes into working on a device.
Especially for newer devs. For every one accomplishment, there are many, many failures. Failures that may have taken days of almost around the clock work. Failures that - in order to reach - took the place of spending time with friends, significant others or social gatherings. Giving up that day with your friends at the beach just to spend the whole time working on something that not only doesn't work, but even the parts of it you can salvage aren't useful.
This is what learning is like when you are the steward of your own education. You have to make sacrifices like ignoring your friends and family, cutting down on work hours, blowing off your girlfriend for a box with a screen.
Guess what - that whole graphics project for bulletproof that resulted in a 3 part tutorial? A 70 something hour bender where I walked away from the machine twice for less then ten minutes a pop for a quick bathroom break and to make some ramen noodles.
It was ramen noodles because I stopped working for a few months to learn android and build stuff for the doubleshot. Pennies can only be pinched so far.
...and I can't tell you how much I despise and hate actually doing graphics work. It makes me agitated and angry.
But ya know what? I did it to show what could be done and generate tutorials so other people could do it and free me to do other things, yet still enjoy the visual entertainment/enhancements the community would bring.
...and I was let down, in a big way. No one else really got into doing it. No one else invested the time to make graphical mods to. apk files we have or to sense. ( no slight to the very few of you that did)
You've had this phone for ten months, where are your roms, mods or graphical enhancements and stuff?
You argue that so few get involved - yet you do little to help.
This device was my first step into the dev ring. If I can be as successful at it - no reason you can't too. If you'd rather spend time doing other things, well, you never will learn to dev.
These kind of threads are disheartening. The community survives and thrives through your participation. By not pitching in to help, you are forcing the few that do to bear the weight of all forward development for the device.
Don't complain that we few are burnt out when you can't count yourself amongst us.
This division is one you highlight, while we try to eliminate. Come to our side and help out.
Bulletproof had over 2,000 downloads when I checked last back in march/april. No one used it as a springboard to build on?
At the end of the day...
elister said:
What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.
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Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.

WeekendsR2Short said:
Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?
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strapped365 said:
Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
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When I see a rom posted in the developers forum, if its based on ICS 4.0 or better, all I do is read the what works and what doesnt work section. For a long time it seemed almost every rom had problems with the SD card being used as a USB Flash drive (meaning I would have to disconnect the SDHC, connect to reader just to copy files). Now the problems tend to either be camera related (which I absolutely need) or battery issues in which it gets hot or drains faster.
So way early on, I was reading through pages upon pages of posts to see if problems get resolved (which often they dont unless they post another build), but now I just read the first page to get to the details (to see whats not working in the rom), then pass when there are too many things not working.
I kinda like the official update, because they tend to be stable.

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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.
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U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
K7Cobb said:
U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.

polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Yes thats the goal but if theyve released the rom with 1 or 2 problems then why should it be a problem. I use virtuous infinty and has 2 problems thats it. Dont quote me but i dont think there is a PERFECT ROM. Because again it is a rom not made by the company but our devs. And then again the roms our devs make have less serious problems than the ones companies have
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polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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strapped365 said:
Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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EXACTLY. I'm not a dev but this is what I did not want to happen but seems like nobody can agree
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For those that haven't taken the time to READ to see what others are saying about how a ROM works......well there is no excuse for you and IMHO have no business saying a word about anything. If a person is so smart that they know how things SHOULD work but can't even figure out a few commands in ADB & how to make it work then you're getting things backasswards. Just download it, evaluate it and if you don't expend the friggin' TIME to read then just STFU!
What you're showing is ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for the vast amounts of time and effort these developers have sat at home alone into the wee hours of the morning LEARNING by trial & error and collaboration among themselves for their OWN betterment. NOT FOR OURS!!! We are ALL damn lucky that they see fit to share ANYTHING with ANY of us and ask for nothing more that a little honest feedback and an occasional THANK YOU!
now....off my friggin' soapbox

polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
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We shouldn't be asking unless we can help in some way, shape or form. As you said, all the devs are doing what they can though we may not be aware of it. Look at how much time Blue put in Bulletproof alone. Kudos Blue!!!
If you want a ROM with no known issues, it exists! Go back to STOCK! LoL One of each ROM that's fully working will not happen because of the reasons that Blue listed and I agree with him completely. And the term "lower your ROM standards" is very fitting to me. It doesn't mean settle for less, but more so just pick the ROM that best suits you. They are there.
My DD right now is MikXE for various reasons and I've never had a single problem with it...at all. I don't use WiFi tethering or WiFi calling but those are features important to some(now I'd LOVE for just 1 feature to be added to it *cough* screenoffmusiccontrol Strapped *cough* LoL), but if it doesn't I'm not going to die. Already perfect in my eyes and I love it the way it is! And Blue's Bulletproof is flawless, everything works!
If a person doesn't like reading then XDA isn't the place to be. Sometimes within the thread there are tips shown that will fix some issues within the ROM that one might not know existed without reading. Then, in other threads there are ways to tweak things to get certain features working in the ROM that may show as not working in the OP...sometimes! Either way, if we want EVERY single feature on the phone working (Even the ones we don't use?) then Stock/Bulletproof is the only way to go. Otherwise, just get a new phone...?
Makes no sense feeling we deserve better for our phones when we have better, but just not up to "our standards". What the devs do...is FREE! As Strapped mentioned, if we had none of these ROMs/Threads, what would we do then? I for one sure as hell don't want to find out!

WELL SAID!!!!

Threads like this sincerely make me sick. I'm an end user ONLY for lack of a viable machine to build on... Somehow i figure building roms on the device isn't feasible (haha!) But my first reaction to this thread was "don't flame the guy don't flame the guy."
These developers have taken what some people get paid to do and enhanced it to almost an art form where they are singularly doing the job that entire DEVELOPMENT teams get paid to do for MONTHS at a time and you have a developer like XMC working on 4 roms at a time AND a kernel and whatever else AND a real job and school or whatever. Seriously if they aren't doing enough for you then code your own dream rom or run miktouch (which ran off stock kernel PERFECTLY for me for the first three months I was rooted).
Besides... What is stable for me might not be for you, or for any of the other end users here. I've ran MikXE, Vanillabean, MikMIUI, CM9 alphas 2-6, Paranoid Android and am currently running Virtuous Infinity alpha 2. ALL have been more than stable enough to function for me with a few quirks... Given i don't depend on Wifi as much as some, but still. Everyone makes a huge deal out of 1080 camcorder but seriously on this screen nobody can tell a resolution difference. I needed gps to work well and calling to work... I was a pizza delivery guy so that was what I needed to be stable.
Seriously to the OP - IF you aren't brave enough to try roms and see what works for you (seeing as how i've had ZERO of the reported bugs i've seen on most of the roms i have run) then stfu and do us all a favor and go back to stock or get a nexus and have a good time. There you can have 50 versions of everything you could ever want to ***** about. OR become a viable member of this great team and contribute. Help test the roms because stability is only a NAND away.
*steps off my soapbox*
And to answer the subject question:
There are plenty of stable roms to choose from. Most every rom here can be used as a daily driver... It just comes down to what YOU can live with as far as bugs go... After all stock had that battery getting really hot "bug" didn't it?
Wifi disconnecting with screen off without an app seems so inconsequential compared to a bug that can fry your device, right? Lets not forget that i've been testing roms and kernels that might've fried my device with only a G1 as a backup LOL.
Oh yeah... And in case you guys missed it...
TBalden, Kornyone, XMC-Wildchild,Strapped365, Sun_Dream, Blue and the rest... You guys kick ass. Let me know if you're ever in Bama and i'll buy you all a beer or several. And... Welcome riyal as well! You have taken my doubleshot from stock hell to the ecstasy that is whatever os i feel like running at any given time.
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Well to tell all the ICS ROMs around here should have been stable already only if we were given ICS updates. Problem is we were not and developers recycle CM source code or ROMs from other HTC devices praying that most of them would work to bring up ICS on our device. Ok that's fine but there are propriety files still missing or incompatible drivers which makes the bugs. Unless some dev would put his life in reverse engineering the missing drivers and stuffs we wouldn't be expecting any stable ICS ROMs here.
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what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet

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@onebornoflight
what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet
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You have started contributing - that kernel in the virtuous beta post is a contribution - see you HAVE provided dev type stuff...
Or would you prefer to be unincluded LOL?
And welcome btw!
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I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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jesusjv95 said:
I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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onebornoflight said:
Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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Its fixed in the latest alphas, should also be fixed in the latest "stable". But run alpha 5 its the most stable. Overall
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