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CyanogenMod, rant and review

Here are some of my thoughts on CyanogenMod, and their development advances. Please, discus...
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imheroldman said:
Here are some of my thoughts on CyanogenMod, and their development advances. Please, discus...
http://goo.gl/ndfAi
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Don't see a whole lot of rant in that post, but anyway. I feel that your view on whether to go CM or MIUI is spot on. I understand that people have a preference, but when I have seen and tried devices with both I end up with largely the same experience. Taste is all it comes down to!

i am very thankful for Cyanogen Mod. Never tried MIUI

can send mms with cyanogenmod?

I liked CM7, very fast and lots of memory
the only thing was I couldn't synchronize my contacts with FB profiles pics like in HTC sense

dariovine said:
I liked CM7, very fast and lots of memory
the only thing was I couldn't synchronize my contacts with FB profiles pics like in HTC sense
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That is because Google removed the ability unless you installed the FB app

Herold,
I need you to work on your writing a bit more before you submit a piece to be critiqued. Proper apostrophe placement is not only a pet peeve of mine, but a clear indication of someone who refused to pay a very small amount of attention in English class.
Sincerely,
The ****

I'm glad that there are so many developers interested in porting CM to various devices. It's the only thing that makes using a non-Google phone/tablet usable for me. I can't wait for stable CM9.

I love CM, the ability for themes is awesome. I currently use the ICS theme and it doesn't even look close to stock Gingerbread. And it is the most stable ROM that I've experienced, too.

Nice post, I never tried AOSP or MIUI and just recently got into using CM roms. Gave me more information on the new roms I've been seeing. I would agree you don't rant too much nor go into too much detail as the pros or cons of each variation of the mods.

I had CM7 with my Desire Z,
now with Sensation, I'm currently tryin InsertCoin 4.0.X
Can't really deside, both have their ways

I am hoping that they port over CM7 or CM9 to the sensation xl. Im currently running the bindroid rom which is good but really holding out for cyanogenMod.

themonk1 said:
I am hoping that they port over CM7 or CM9 to the sensation xl. Im currently running the bindroid rom which is good but really holding out for cyanogenMod.
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I hope so too. I'm planning to buy the Sensation XL. But won't do unless i make sure there will be CM7 or 9 Port

i tried CM and MIUI and i prefer MIUI absolutely!

In my opinion, I think that CyanogenMod will surpass stock Android when it comes to features and stability, eventually.

It probably already has... when you consider that its on yaffs2 and not ext4

Stability?
I have been using CM7 ever since I got tired of rooted stock. The first version I installed was 7.0.0, which lasted about 4 months until it started wigging out. I flashed 7.0.3, and that was great until three weeks later it started exhibiting the same problems as the previous version. I reflashed the same version and had a little more success, lasting without error until 7.1.0 Stable was released. Since October, I've had to reflash at LEAST 5 times, due to instability. Now don't get me wrong, when CM7 works it REALLY works well. When it doesn't...my phone is worthless until I reflash. I would LOVE to know why everything starts force closing after x amount of time, as I'm really getting tired of setting things up the way I want them each and every time. *steps down from soap box*

i loved CM7 on my N1

Good too read a review about something which isn't commercially developed.

anyone still on cm7, waiting for cm9? passing on all current ICS roms

anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?
I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.
post here if you are like me!

ive been waiting for a stable CM7 on the sensation for over a year now... CM7 alpha10 is pretty close but still not a daily driver.. i dont see a stable CM9 on our phones within the next year.. there are some good AOSP ICS roms though like Virtuous Inquisition which will have to do for now. ever since Samsung hired Cyanogen, you pretty much need a Samsung phone (Galaxy Nexus) for good CM support
the only reason i am using a Sensation right now is because it is the only high end phone (dual core) that supports my $5/mo tzones plan, else I would probably have a Galaxy S2 or the Nexus right now since i much prefer CyanogenMod

I'm in same situation
several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1
I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.
Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.
I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.
CM is the best for me

I have many phones flashed to CM7.1 and tried the alpha 10 for sensation too. But there are many lacks (e.g. reboot when recording video, battery after 10 hours down to 20%) so I went back and waiting for CM9.

This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.
It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.
The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.
Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait

blahbl4hblah said:
and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
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and we will be slowly insane cause nothing happens. But I've read a few days ago in a post, there are two developers?

I'm still on CM7 and it's not looking good for CM9:
https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts/DkmD4rUQJ66
I know we're not paying him or anything, but why can't he at least give us an update instead of these "mystery" posts?

poopkeen said:
I'm in same situation
several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1
I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.
Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.
I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.
CM is the best for me
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WOW dude no google account? That sucks because if you had one you could easily edit or delete your contact info by signing into google from your computer. You do know that android is google right? I think you would be much happier with a flip phone.

blahbl4hblah said:
This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.
It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.
The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.
Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
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I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.
I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.
Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...
Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?
Matt

mrg02d said:
I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.
I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.
Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...
Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?
Matt
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Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

after today I don't think I will go back to cm7 again. I have been running vi all this month and currently on v3.0.0 and it will do until something better comes out.
yes, I do believe knob abandoned our phone and do not expect any release from him. January is almost over and we are left in the dark. The promise I made to myself is never to get a non nexus phone again. I will just wait a little bit to see if they release the 32gig GSM version.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Just switch to an ICS rom in the meanwhile. I reccomend Virtuous Quadratto.

blurry mms
Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix?

c19932 said:
anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?
I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.
post here if you are like me!
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I am like you!
I use HyperSensation with Launcher Pro.

NotoriousX3 said:
Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix?
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Off Topic. Thread title is "anyone still on cm7, waiting for cm9? passing on all current ICS roms"

I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.

webmaster said:
I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.
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I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online. Only the kmobs 'official' CM9 seems to be lost this year.
On Rootzwiki I asked if the following list was up to date. Here it is. Some exist and some are not, but all are Sensation-specific ROMs in development or possible development.
Will we get up to TEN 'unique' Sensation ROMs soon?
1. TripNRaver already has released three betas of his AOSP ROM for Sensation, over at Modaco.
2. HTC Leaked ICS ROM. Lots of tuning and updates of the major 'brands' of Sensation ROMs at XDA Sensation Developers forum, for 4.03 ICS and Sense 4.0 leak.
3. Virtuous Quattro (AOSP) ported to Sensation at XDA Developers forum.
4. MIUI developer petitioned to release a Sensation ICS MIUI (250+ votes for it). 新年快樂 !
5. TripNRaVer previously mentioned he could do an ICS MIUI port once the CM9 Sensation ROM was working.
6. TripNRaVer yesterday released his own CM9 beta ROM for Sensation.
7. Cyanogenmod 9 team (Keyan Mobli aka kmobs, others?) may be still developing the CM9 ROM, unless there has been any announcement otherwise. No recent news in 2012, though.
8. ? Anyone have another ROM for Sensation that's not a variant of or based on one of the above?
9. ?
10. ?

TripNRaver released a beta CM9 over at MoDaCo, fyi.

BiziBB said:
I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online.
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There are only four "distinct" ICS ROMs available. Trips CM9 leak, the two Virtuous builds, and MAYBE Android Revolution. Everything else is just a themed version of one of the above.

yup still waiting. most ics AOSP roms arent fully stable.

[Q] Will We Have To Wait On T-Mobile To Release ICS Via OTA After March?

I've got a question. I posed this question in a different thread, but thought that it'd spark an interesting discussion for T-Mobile customers.
HTC announced that they won't be releasing ICS until late March, but what about T-Mobile?
Do I have to wait until HTC releases ICS to T-Mobile, and then wait until T-Mobile decides to release ICS to the public via OTA?
That would really suck if we have to wait even more time for T-Mobile to bloat the crap out of ICS when HTC releases ICS in late March
EDIT:
Since people have interpreted my post incorrectly, here's a quick statement to address the issue -
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.

first off why are you waiting ics is out now
second yes tmob sprint att vr will always bloat it up with there stuff like wifi calling and there crap so ota is off by a few eeeks or months UNLESS YOU COME HERE look is dev section for ics cant miss it

craven667 said:
first off why are you waiting ics is out now
second yes tmob sprint att vr will always bloat it up with there stuff like wifi calling and there crap so ota is off by a few eeeks or months UNLESS YOU COME HERE look is dev section for ics cant miss it
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You think I'm stupid or something? I KNOW that ICS custom ROMs are available right now.
I purposely choose not to install a custom ROM due to the countless issues that people report. I need a stable phone and my job requires me to have a functioning phone 24/7. I can't test out custom ROMs for that reason.
I'm waiting for ICS over OTA.

Last time HTC promised an OTA for the Sensation 4G (2.3.4), they were on time. I think they're probably working with T-Mobile to deliver it by March.

Well I think so to man .... All this help help **** I keep seeing after someone flashes a new Rom is getting old that's what u get for ****ing with the OS ... On the phone people should just wait for the real HTC ice cream ....
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For custom ROM's on ICS, they are perfectly stable now, many hundreds of users are happy using them as daily drivers.
For T-Mobile, we alread have WiFi calling perfectly functional (which is lucky because T-Mobile havent updated their app since 2.3.4) so if you want to waste time waiting for OTA, that is up to you but you won't get anything a custom ROM doesn't already give you
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

ufokid22 said:
Well I think so to man .... All this help help **** I keep seeing after someone flashes a new Rom is getting old that's what u get for ****ing with the OS ... On the phone people should just wait for the real HTC ice cream ....
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That's a bit harsh and too much of a generalization. I'd be willing to bet money most of the "help help ****" you refer to is mainly because some people don't take the time to read the directions carefully before trying things out. I'm a bit paranoid myself and tend to read things over several times before trying something new. If you want to wait for the OTA that's your choice, just remember you don't get to complain about how long it takes

I am a T-Mobile USA user and I use ARHD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14192842&postcount=4 With no issues. My browser works, my GPS works, my email works, my camera /camcorder works, my WIFI calling works... please actually test a rom before you make a statement on how they don't work and you want a "stable" phone. All you have to do is make a backup of your current stock rom and flash a custom rom on your day off...

Most of custom sense roms are more stable than stock. The devs here have eliminated almost all the issues that HTC created. Custom roms are faster, have better battery life and make our phones work as they should. The majority of those people that complain and ask for help about stuff that they broke are lazy and dont take the time to read the instructions or even search for an answer! So you have to try something to judge it. The devs put a lot of time and effort on that builts and they do it for free!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

leftheodo said:
Most of custom sense roms are more stable than stock. The devs here have eliminated almost all the issues that HTC created. Custom roms are faster, have better battery life and make our phones work as they should. The majority of those people that complain and ask for help about stuff that they broke are lazy and dont take the time to read the instructions or even search for an answer! So you have to try something to judge it. The devs put a lot of time and effort on that builts and they do it for free!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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It's really happening that people just ask without even searching. Most of them ask about common issues and it's impossible not to find an answer in a thread like ARHD 6.2.1 which has literally 5000+ pages of posts in it.
ufokid22 said:
Well I think so to man .... All this help help **** I keep seeing after someone flashes a new Rom is getting old that's what u get for ****ing with the OS ... On the phone people should just wait for the real HTC ice cream ....
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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I *kinda* see where you're coming from there.
The thing is, people have the right to "**** with the OS" all they want since they paid a premium for the phone but some people flash ROMs without taking risks into account and then ***** about problems without trying to search for solutions in the forums but the way you put it was kind of elitist if you ask me.

dgenx210 said:
It's really happening that people just ask without even searching. Most of them ask about common issues and it's impossible not to find an answer in a thread like ARHD 6.2.1 which has literally 5000+ pages of posts in it.
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Most of the issues in mike's ROM have been fixed by other's but mike doesnt update his ROM often so people are still posting about crap that has been solved.
Solution: dont always assume mike's ROM is the best, hunt around and find a different ROM you like

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/htc-talks-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-on-facebook/
Take a look there....sensation 4g users should be getting ICS before the end of march
Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G

LPChris47 said:
You think I'm stupid or something? I KNOW that ICS custom ROMs are available right now.
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I don't want to sound crude, but if you know that ICS roms are available now, wouldn't you know that HTCs official RUU will be made into countless roms on this forum as soon as it's available?
I don't understand your question.

In all likely hood once HTC releases it most chefs would work from that. I don't know why they would need to wait for Tmobile just to cook a ROM based off of HTC source. The only useful thing you'd probably get from Tmobile is just radio info and maybe wifi calling if they make any changes.
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Whoa whoa whoa!
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.

LPChris47 said:
Whoa whoa whoa!
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.
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so if you don't plan on rooting your device.....WHY DID YOU JOIN XDA? LOL

nccu_eagles said:
so if you don't plan on rooting your device.....WHY DID YOU JOIN XDA? LOL
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I've not rooted my phone and have no intentions to root, does that mean I shouldn't be here either....?

nccu_eagles said:
so if you don't plan on rooting your device.....WHY DID YOU JOIN XDA? LOL
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He could of just joined XDA to gain some of the latest "Sensation 4g" news, maybe he's rooted other phones in the past, maybe he just likes to read upon development and he will eventually root and install a custom rom once he feels comfortable.
There's many reasons to be a member of XDA without a rooted phone. Many websites get their news from XDA first and then post it on their website. Why not just get the news directly from the source (XDA)?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

LPChris47 said:
Whoa whoa whoa!
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.
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I definitely get where your coming from. It takes time to get a custom ROM, flash it, and set up the home screens, and then realize you doing like htc locations being selected as default over Google maps, and then you have to search and find out how to change that. Once the official is out, you can just root, remove bloat you don't like,and not waste too much time. To each his own, that's the beauty of android, you can prefer to use it the way it comes, or get it cooked
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

donwhann said:
I've not rooted my phone and have no intentions to root, does that mean I shouldn't be here either....?
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Again like OP, it's your phone it's your choice on what to do with it. Seeing that you've already made close to a thousand posts, why leave now?

[q] how about this...

Instead of making roms with all kinds of tweaks how about making an ICS Rom for tmous sensation 4g with everything working? Truthfully all I want in a Rom is an overclock kernel fm radio a browser that I can actually search with and most importantly tmo WiFi calling to work. All that other stuff (i don't know what it is) I could care less about. I just want the previously mentioned features to work and that's it. Sense overlay is nice but not even a requirement. I hear all kinds off sh*t talking about HTC devs that take forever to get their software out but at least when it comes out it seems to work. Instead of these roms that are kicked out to us everyday with a list of important features that just don't work. What is the point? Right now I'm waiting for an official ics update to come out and I'm just sticking to that. Rooted overclocked and thats about it. I have tried many of these custom roms and they all have some stupid problem which should not be happening. What's the point if no features work and the phone reboots all the time? For all this I could have stuck with any off the rack garbage bullish*t android phone. I get the same garbage performance. I mean most of the time people buy a phone because of certain features. But I don't think I'm asking for too much to have a proper stock browser WiFi calling and little or no random reboots. Basically, what's the problem here?

Kevc44485 said:
Instead of making roms with all kinds of tweaks how about making an ICS Rom for tmous sensation 4g with everything working? Truthfully all I want in a Rom is an overclock kernel fm radio a browser that I can actually search with and most importantly tmo WiFi calling to work. All that other stuff (i don't know what it is) I could care less about. I just want the previously mentioned features to work and that's it. Sense overlay is nice but not even a requirement. I hear all kinds off sh*t talking about HTC devs that take forever to get their software out but at least when it comes out it seems to work. Instead of these roms that are kicked out to us everyday with a list of important features that just don't work. What is the point? Right now I'm waiting for an official ics update to come out and I'm just sticking to that. Rooted overclocked and thats about it. I have tried many of these custom roms and they all have some stupid problem which should not be happening. What's the point if no features work and the phone reboots all the time? For all this I could have stuck with any off the rack garbage bullish*t android phone. I get the same garbage performance. I mean most of the time people buy a phone because of certain features. But I don't think I'm asking for too much to have a proper stock browser WiFi calling and little or no random reboots. Basically, what's the problem here?
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If you want it so bad and apparently you think it's a piece of cake, why don't you go make it yourself if you're that impatient.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium

jab74101 said:
If you want it so bad and apparently you think it's a piece of cake, why don't you go make it yourself if you're that impatient.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium
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Never once did I imply that I thought it was easy nor did I say I wanted anything so badly, except for working features. In fact I said I would wait for an official update. I don't understand where that reply came from. As far as making a Rom myself I would love to but to ask a question on this website is like pulling teeth so...

OP, don't forget that developers need to release a somewhat working ROM in order for people to test and find things that might be wrong with it. Also you can't really blame them if they get excited and want to release as soon as they got something.

Ha! Wow, that's a pretty disrespectful rant...
You do realize that developers on xda and other sites are not employees, right? Nobody here is getting a salary, and projects that are released are done so for the benefit of the community. HTC has recently made it somewhat easier with OTA, RUU, and ICS kernel sources... yet, many projects are based on reverse engineering a ROM instead of working from the ground up with AOSP source. If something was compiled solely from AOSP then you'd have a pretty lack-luster ROM without any of the fancy functionality I'm sure you're looking for.
Now, add to all of this the fact that google REALLY changed things up with ICS and it's understandable that hiccups are going to occur!
Relax, crack a beer, wait for your OTA, and don't expect others to put work/family/school/etc... aside so that YOU can have wi-fi calling on a custom ROM.

GROGG88 said:
Ha! Wow, that's a pretty disrespectful rant...
You do realize that developers on xda and other sites are not employees, right? Nobody here is getting a salary, and projects that are released are done so for the benefit of the community. HTC has recently made it somewhat easier with OTA, RUU, and ICS kernel sources... yet, many projects are based on reverse engineering a ROM instead of working from the ground up with AOSP source. If something was compiled solely from AOSP then you'd have a pretty lack-luster ROM without any of the fancy functionality I'm sure you're looking for.
Now, add to all of this the fact that google REALLY changed things up with ICS and it's understandable that hiccups are going to occur!
Relax, crack a beer, wait for your OTA, and don't expect others to put work/family/school/etc... aside so that YOU can have wi-fi calling on a custom ROM.
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All I want is a browser and WiFi calling.

Stable ICS/JB ROMs?

Hey.
I've been on jb roms since they came out for desire s and have been using ics before that. However... ics roms have been in beta stage since ever and have not really advanced in terms of having stable or even working main functions. Well this is because of the fact that our devs did not have kernel sources. There have been words that kernel source release would solve all our major issues like front cam and others. But kernel source has been released and I'm seeing a decline in our forum's traffic and in development. I know i's partly due to many original members leaving. But I also hear that devs are facing difficulty in making the kernel. So I want to ask, will we ever have fully stable ics or jb roms or is this not a possibility?
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Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM, AKOP and JB source build threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!

ben_pyett said:
Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM and AKOP threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!
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I fully understand the devs' hard work and their dedications. That's not what this thread is asking. It seems to many devs that they are still having a hard time adjusting ics and jb to our device even upon kernel source release. Despite the prior speculation that things would be much easier with kernel source. So I was bringing the problem forth to see if it is possible for us to have stable ics or jb roms. No need to be all defensive. Just want an objective discussion
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custom roms are rearly FULLY stable. there is always a little bug here and there. but since the release of the official ICS and the latest kernel source ICS roms are getting mature at last. and if you're still not satisfied, wait a month more. or flash the official ICS and have a really stable rom now.
JB is another story. there is no native kernel source for it and i doubt there will ever be.

I totally see where you are both coming from. The kernel source was released over a fortnight ago.
I agree with Ben, in respect we should appreciate what the current devs have given us etc etc,
But I also agree with skim, I am quite surprised that with the kernel source released, AOSP still hasn't got a functional kernel based on our Saga build. (Andromadus is using a kernel port)
I was hoping for at least ICS AOSP to be working by now, but I guess that is not the case
The forums have certainly gone a lot quieter now, and I suspect by the end of the year, even more of us will leave
But back to the original point, I wish that things could pick up like they were this time last year, but sadly that will never happen.
I have no intentions of insulting any devs, I truly appreciate the work they have provided us, and I haven't contributed anything particularly useful, so I am in no position to do so, but this is just how I feel.
When I look through forums like the S2, I envy the development... even after a year, ROMs are still on full scale, with so many choices to choose from...
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Unfortunately Oly I don't think that you can compare the DS to the SGS2. We unfortunately were never a main stream device (like the SGS2), we sadly missed the boat, with the Sensation coming out shortly after our release, I reckon that the focus went from DHD to Sensation and the limelight never really shone on us long enough to get a main stream following.
The Samsung onslaught appears to unbeatable currently sadly even the One series hasn't really made a dent.

We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
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For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Well, that was philosophical!
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Skanob said:
We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
P.S.
For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Haha I don't know about you man... but I'm a student and learning to move on to a new device is not as easy as it sounds. I'm stuck with a contract until next April. So ill be sticking around here till then xD
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I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...

SteveO_ said:
I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...
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htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.

anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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At the moment i'm using stock rom (sense) too, cause my prefered custom rom has still a problem with battery drain...
As soon this is fixed, i'll go to ICS DS again...
But at all, the ICS stock rom is working very nice...

Fallout v4.4.0 is pretty stable to me, been using since a while now.

Tonight i'll try Fallout 5.0, let's see how it is... :highfive:

MIUI 2.8.x or 2.9.x
I recently flashed MIUI 2.8.17 and its been a joyful ride! It is very very stable. I had to reboot only once so far and that is an intermittent bug. BT/WiFi/Tethering/Camera etc. etc. everything works! (hard to find that in an ICS ROM)! Its my daily ROM now.. :good:

Fallout 5.0
I got myself S-off and rooted 2 days ago.
The first custom rom Ive tried is Fallout 5.0. Only one day into my test and it's very stable and fast compared to stock gingerbread.
I'm very pleased with it so far :good:

anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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My Gingerbread stock rom experience made me root my phone. I kept getting the white screen with the green HTC logo and no matter what I did it always came back. I have now tried out about 5 or 6 custom roms and this issue no longer appears. Of course there are other issues, some of which are serious. But there are ROMs which are in general more than good enough for day to day usage. I currently use ICE-DSv5 but for example Fallout v4.4 is stable (v5 is not stable for me but it is for a lot of people).
If you are interested you can look at my other thread here called "My First Rooted Phone" for an overview of my experiences so far.

Blindbean and Codename are great JB roms, not fully stable, but good to work with.

Yes. I flash every recent roms so I know how they are. I started this thread to get an idea of if it is possible to have a stable rom. The devs have been struggling with major bugs since early this year and we're still stuck with the same bugs we had prior to the release of the kernel sources. I do know it is a difficult process. But wanted an answer from a dev. Is it possible for us to have working front cam, proper video playback, etc. ? This isn't complaining btw just wanted an answer other than "be patient. Be thankful. It's good enough"
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if you want stable flash rooted stock. it has everything you mentioned. combine it with tweaked kernel and you have even more...