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overclocking after s off, rooted.

Hi all, I've been looking and had no success, I've soffd my phone, rooted and installed a custom rom but set CPU is being a *****, can anyone. , ANYONE, point me in the right direction to get this sorted please?
Oh and my recovery is pink and in double vision.
Help.
Cheers.

Scroll down about a page or two. You will find your answers.....
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stanny2k said:
Scroll down about a page or two. You will find your answers.....
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Dude I'm not blind, I'm just not finding a difinitive answer and with all due respect, that doesn't help.

dladz said:
Dude I'm not blind, I'm just not finding a difinitive answer and with all due respect, that doesn't help.
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I agree with you..theres like 5 different answers for every one question. All people seem to be saying is "search" rather then being helpful anymore. Its a shame you can't get help in the Q&A section..
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I tried a few different ways before and after s-off, still not actually going past stock speeds at all. I think its a matter of having a modded kernel.
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Thank you to both you, i appreciate what you both said, and it seems that I feel the same way, i imagine that we're not alone (this is how communities start, and of which xda WAS based. now it's full of ppl who would prefer to pass off a sarky comment than give you the answer to what eludes you)
It's a piss take and if the search function worked properly then i would use the ****er,end of, story be told the development thread is a mis interpreted thread of ppl trying to get the same thing but failing and hurting others unnecessarily is what happens a lot of the time, we're here to help each other boys' n girls not hinder, there are people out there who would kill for some of the knowledge that we possess, so without a sarcastic tongue, try to pass it on, and do it with a smile, because if i see another american flag with a prick on the end of it saying something which i would normally slap someone for then i'm going to board a plane and get my friend to find ppl'z addresses lol i'm joking, but seriously, the flames, the ****, the bollocks which comes with some of the answers, i could do without.
Can someone please help? does anyone give a ****? how can we overclock our ****ing phones.
PArdon the french but i'm pissed off at the lack of support around here, and the lack of updating threads when everyone clearly has S - OFF.

dladz said:
Thank you to both you, i appreciate what you both said, and it seems that I feel the same way, i imagine that we're not alone (this is how communities start, and of which xda WAS based. now it's full of ppl who would prefer to pass off a sarky comment than give you the answer to what eludes you)
It's a piss take and if the search function worked properly then i would use the ****er,end of, story be told the development thread is a mis interpreted thread of ppl trying to get the same thing but failing and hurting others unnecessarily is what happens a lot of the time, we're here to help each other boys' n girls not hinder, there are people out there who would kill for some of the knowledge that we possess, so without a sarcastic tongue, try to pass it on, and do it with a smile, because if i see another american flag with a prick on the end of it saying something which i would normally slap someone for then i'm going to board a plane and get my friend to find ppl'z addresses lol i'm joking, but seriously, the flames, the ****, the bollocks which comes with some of the answers, i could do without.
Can someone please help? does anyone give a ****? how can we overclock our ****ing phones.
PArdon the french but i'm pissed off at the lack of support around here, and the lack of updating threads when everyone clearly has S - OFF.
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Sorry for going off topic but amen. As for me coming from the evo side of things its night and day from there to here. Hope we can turn things around here.
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U need a kernel that supports overclocking (ex: unity v2).
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I was having the same issues. Most of the roms are based on a kernel that doesn't o/c past 1.5 and is now controlled by
o/cdaemon. Like yall I like to play with setcpu and run it myself. All roms except for ones using stock kerenel use the new daemon. There are currently 2 roms that use a unity kernel that will oc to 1.8. They also use the daemon.....but if u download setcpu the daemon will turn itself off and let you use setcpu!!!! I flashed a cold different roms and the daemon wasn't working correctly (CPU wouldn't go past 1128). Either way ppl have different opinions about overclocking. Seems most devs now find it unnecessary since we have dual core now and better....everything. but for me....when running navigation, shooting emails every 5 minutes, uploading 100 work related pics, tracking work orders in a ****ty corporate made app, 50+ phone calls, burning up 1gb of data a day just for work, more mms' than a 16 yr. old sends in a year..........and checking the forums every chance in between. Basically I I NEED THIS PHONE TO HAUL ASS FOR 10 HOURS A DAY NON STOP TILL I WALK IN THE DOOR TO MY HOUSE
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Many of.the custom ROMs which allow OC use a new method outside of SetCPU. I believe its Daemon. You go into a file and set your clock values similar to how it was done in SetCPU. This is supposed to be much more fluid.
Check the the Virtuous Unity Rom. There is a whole paragraph and link about how to overclocked. Currently custom kernals break the camera flash. Still takes pics, but no flash. Should be addressed in the near future.
Hope that helped. I'm no expert so I recommend reading the linked post in the OC roms.
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You either use the oc daemon to overclock or use setcpu. As soon as setcpu is used, the daemon is disabled folks...
<--- using Unity v2 with SetCPU at 1.5Ghz with multiple profiles.

Is oc daemon something that we can use without a custom ROM? I am S-oFF, rooted, running stock rom with ADW EX. I have setCPU working, but only until a reboot of the phone. I dont really want to flash ROMs yet...
Matt

i am also waiting for oc daemon update.zip - would be great if rmk could create a independent update and there was another guy who started writing a gui for the "new" oc daemon.

So the way that I have been able to overclock so far was by using the temp root plus overclock method, even though i just S-Offed and im like you, I still do not want to flash any other roms for a while. What i do is just run the 1.8 ghz overclocked files a few time and then wala it works until i reboot and then i have to do it again. One thing that I have noticed is that when i over clock and run it hard, it burns up and then restarts, so i try not to run too many apps while over clocked at 1.8 hope this helps.

Mr.franco said:
So the way that I have been able to overclock so far was by using the temp root plus overclock method, even though i just S-Offed and im like you, I still do not want to flash any other roms for a while. What i do is just run the 1.8 ghz overclocked files a few time and then wala it works until i reboot and then i have to do it again. One thing that I have noticed is that when i over clock and run it hard, it burns up and then restarts, so i try not to run too many apps while over clocked at 1.8 hope this helps.
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I am the same way. We really need a better way to do this with our stock rom. I wish people weren't pushing the roms as much as they are and did some work for those of us that don't want to flash roms yet.
Matt

mrg02d said:
I am the same way. We really need a better way to do this with our stock rom. I wish people weren't pushing the roms as much as they are and did some work for those of us that don't want to flash roms yet.
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Most of us are happy with the devs focussing on improving their respective custom roms. If you are that interested in holding onto the stock rom, it sounds like you've got a project to take on.
If you guys don't mind me asking, why are you guys hanging on so dearly to the stock rom?
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moto211 said:
Most of us are happy with the devs focussing on improving their respective custom roms. If you are that interested in holding onto the stock rom, it sounds like you've got a project to take on.
If you guys don't mind me asking, why are you guys hanging on so dearly to the stock rom?
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For me, the reasons are strong.
1-Most the ROMs seem to be very buggy. I am a "noob" and dont feel like spending more time troubleshooting my phone and asking for help than I spend using it. I also have little clue as to why something FC or my phone freezes.
2-I havent seen ANYTHING that a ROM can do better than my "stock" ROM. I say "stock" because I have frozen Sense (much of it) with TB as well as a lot of random bloatware. I have also added ADW EX (paid) and my phone is extremely snappy.
3-The chance of FUBARing my phone is GREAT. I see plenty of experienced people talking of bricked devices and screwed up settings. Seems like a mine field out there! Seems best to leave this to the real Pros, for now, until better methods come up.
Ive yet to see a ROM even touch the we browser. It may be fast at loading, but its stiff as a board. Id be interested in a ROM that was just a thinned out version of the stock ROM (not gutted, like others are, removing everything) that had reliable OC and a much better browser, all with increased battery life. This all assumes the ROM didnt require me to do anything aside from flash it. No troubleshooting, no coming on here BEGGING for my noob question be answered in a dignified manner.
God forbid my SD card or something failed while trying to flash a ROM...
Thats asking for a lot, I know! Thats why I prefer to upgrade my phone in stages. If I add something and I get errors, I know why. I can remove it and then gripe about it from my WORKING phone. ;-)
Whew!
Matt

mrg02d said:
For me, the reasons are strong.
1-Most the ROMs seem to be very buggy. I am a "noob" and dont feel like spending more time troubleshooting my phone and asking for help than I spend using it. I also have little clue as to why something FC or my phone freezes.
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The buggyness that you speak of is largely due to the current state of our third party kernels. You could flash a ROM and flash the stock kernel to avoid many of the issues that you see people having.
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3-The chance of FUBARing my phone is GREAT. I see plenty of experienced people talking of bricked devices and screwed up settings. Seems like a mine field out there! Seems best to leave this to the real Pros, for now, until better methods come up.
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How many do you consider "plenty"? I've only seen one report of a true brick and that was because the user was blindly executing commands in fastboot that he didn't know about. He was practically trying to brick his device. There have been a few other reports of hardware failure that probably would have happened even if those users had not flashed ROMs. Really, its almost impossible to truly brick your device. To brick, you would need a bad flash of the bootloader (hboot) or radio. Nobody bundles hboots or radios in their ROMs. The worst that could happen from a bad ROM flash is a soft brick (fixable). I understand wanting to be cautious but I think it is quite an exaggeration to make it sound like flashing a ROM is a risky gamble or that "plenty" of "experienced" people have bricked.
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Ive yet to see a ROM even touch the we browser. It may be fast at loading, but its stiff as a board. Id be interested in a ROM that was just a thinned out version of the stock ROM (not gutted, like others are, removing everything) that had reliable OC and a much better browser, all with increased battery life. This all assumes the ROM didnt require me to do anything aside from flash it. No troubleshooting, no coming on here BEGGING for my noob question be answered in a dignified manner.
God forbid my SD card or something failed while trying to flash a ROM...
Thats asking for a lot, I know! Thats why I prefer to upgrade my phone in stages. If I add something and I get errors, I know why. I can remove it and then gripe about it from my WORKING phone. ;-)
Whew!
Matt
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I think you are asking for a lot. You're essentially asking for everything and willing to do nothing, except flash. Not troubleshooting issues or reporting bugs, just flash. I can understand not wanting to spend a lot time fiddling, I really can. But remember, stock ROMs have bugs too. Have fun with your stock ROM and its slow development cycle.
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Man one big fight. Anywho get a person who has the o/c daemon to strip it out and put it on a filesharing site. Then download and install it. Have to be rooted. If you prefer setcpu when. You set a frequency tick the set on boot check box. Also would not recommend anything over 1.6 GHz bc you could burn out your proccesor. Hope this helps anyone.
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Bobguy21 said:
Man one big fight.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to pick a fight. I just thought it odd that someone would take issue with devs focussing on "buggy ROMs" instead polishing the stock one. I thought we root so we don't have focus on stock? Not to mention the fact that the current the crop of ROMs would never get any better if it weren't for the developers efforts on those ROMs. I just find it funny when people say "I wish more time/effort were spend on [insert ROM name here]" If you feel that not enough dev efforts are being devoted to something it might be time to learn to dev and do it yourself. Otherwise, accept the efforts that they have chosen to gift us with.
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Quick S-Off question...

Can I still get the official ICS update on my tmo sensation 4g if I have it 's-off'ed and rooted?
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That's a tricky question. Android updates from T-Mobile have been known to brick rooted devices in the past, though I've never seen a fully unrecoverable brick happen this way. There have also been instances where devices with custom roms have not even been given the option to update. Beyond that though, there have been many updates that came out and did nothing more than update your phone and cause you to lose root.
That all being said, my suggestion is, if you REALLY want the T-Mobile ICS update, don't s-off your phone, and if it's too late for that, check the forums for people bricking their phones before you choose to update. Otherwise, get one of the great ICS ROMs available already (like Revolution HD using sense 3.6), and when the T-Mobile update comes out, get a new ROM based on that.
Whatever you do, patience is the key. Don't pounce on the update the second you get it.

Thanks for the reply Johnny, I appreciate it! I've seen some of your other posts and notice how helpful you've been. I like this sensation community, reminds me of the hd2 one I'm moving from.
right now I'm running stock everything, haven't done anything customized. At least yet I'm always nervous about rooting a new device since I'm unfamiliar.
Thanks again for the words of wisdom.
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My pleasure. And if you ever do decide to go the route of rooting, this is the thread I used and recommend: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Good luck!

Confirmed: T-Mobile USA Sensation 4G ICS out now! WiFi Calling Mod is out!

http://support.t-mobile.com/message/127344#127344
UPDATE on ICS rollout dates:
The Sensation 4G will not update in April. While I don't know with certainty when it is coming, I can tell you it will not be this month.
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UPDATE, most recent news is here. T-Mobile US testing is complete. OTA soon to come.
Update: T-Mobile confirms the Update will be available starting on Wednesday 5/16/2012.
Update: A flashable zip version of the T-Mobile Stock ICS OTA is already available here on XDA. Thanks to Paten for finding the thread and of course thanks to Steve0007 for making it available to the XDA community.
Update: WiFi Calling Mod ripped right from the T-Mobile ICS OTA is now up!
Update: Confirmation someone has received the official OTA.

No Big News...
No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.
Once again, if you want ICS bad enough study and learn the fine art of rooting your phone and pulling a custom rom. Plenty of them out there!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...ors-says-no-sensation-4g-ics-update-in-april/
From The Article on TMONEWS: "If T-Mobile could have releases the Sensation update already, they would have. Trust me."
Ummm when I hear trust me, I want to check and make sure my wallet is in my back pocket, my watch is still on my wrist and my fillings are still in my mouth.
Oh yea and Marketing has no control... MY ASS it doesn't!

You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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crisisinthecity said:
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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Agreed!
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Tatdude806 said:
No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.
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You're just wrong, but whatever...
crisisinthecity said:
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.
The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.
The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.
Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.

Wrong is a state of mind...
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You're just wrong, but whatever...
How Am I Wrong? This is not the first time something like this has happened, and it won't be the last time either. In addition, the One S is crippled... No removable battery and no SD card slot... I call that crippled.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You're just wrong, but whatever...
As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.
The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.
The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.
Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.
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Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
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I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us
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crisisinthecity said:
Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
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I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...

At Tatdude806, I agree with you. Wrong is a state of mind.
Now about the post that page of the T-Mobile forum thread. I for one was not expecting the update this month. To be honest if it gets pushed middle to late next month it will suprise me. But thanks for the info Darnell_Chat_TN.
Last if anyone thinks T-Mobile does not want to compromise any potential profits for the HTC One S by updating the HTC Sensation 4G too early. Well let me tell you, start thinking it cause it is no doubt in my mind it is. Yes Marketing may actually have no control over a software update, but profits do. Meaning if the higher ups in the T-Mobile corperate offices see it as a potential damaging factor to possible profits of the release of HTC's New flag ship device..

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I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...
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Wasn't aimed at you at all dude. You weren't complaining.
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Honestly I couldn't even imagine being stock waiting for a half assed ota TBH... Root your phone and give your self a better experience! just my two cents.
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ddizzy81 said:
I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us
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True true wahahah let them wait lol we are having fun
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I'm sorry to hear it, though not really surprised. The vagaries of quality assurance between two companies makes it pretty inevitable that it would much longer than normal.
Though disappointing, I'd rather have a quality build with no errors - particularly in the trouble-some wifi calling app - than get a stock build that has to be patched ad nauseum.

crisisinthecity said:
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.

electrons said:
Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.
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I totally agree and want to see some ROMs based on the official US update when it comes out.
I'm just saying its crazy to let yourself actually get upset about it when you can get a fully functional ICS Rom loaded on your phone with ease.
As far as the peeps who need WiFi calling to work, (we are all adults here for the most part), use GB until the official ota drops and stop complaining. We are 100% certain it is in the works. GB works perfectly fine until then.
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Restoring Stock
To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.

This doesn't surprise me...tipical T-Mobile slowness!

greatgoogly said:
To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
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In short, yes, you are wrong. If you are s-off rolling back software/firmware is simple and no more risky than it was to flash non-US ICS firmware and radio! Yes there is risk involved, but that same risk was there when flashing ICS so why worry now if you weren't worried before?

greatgoogly said:
To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
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I've done it 4 times in the past two days... Just don't loose power in the middle of a radio flash...

is it just me ???

ok so i love when a new rom comes out but latly it seems that people taking a old rom putting a few apps in it maybe a new wall paper and a boot img and calling it new i want development
i am not knocking development team in anyway but feel its a set back for a cook to server someones left overs and kinda pissing me off when i think i am getting new and have the same problem as when one s first came out
so my question is other then a op how can you tell what a rom is or if its old other then what they put

craven667 said:
ok so i love when a new rom comes out but latly it seems that people taking a old rom putting a few apps in it maybe a new wall paper and a boot img and calling it new i want development
i am not knocking development team in anyway but feel its a set back for a cook to server someones left overs and kinda pissing me off when i think i am getting new and have the same problem as when one s first came out
so my question is other then a op how can you tell what a rom is or if its old other then what they put
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First of all are you posting this in the correct forum?
The rom's and the updates of them.. Are all proper.. No one ever did a rom update by changing some damn apps... It's not a sgx2 communtiy... What are you *****ing about.. For every rom update there is a change log... The name change log says it all. That it highlights what all are... changed... What more do you want about the new rom?... AFAIK all the proper rom's have proper updates... If you think it's still a set back.. Then wait for a week and Chk whether you got a update or not....But please don't create these annoying and useless threads
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This is my first android device so I have nothing to compare it to but I think the development for Sensation is quite good. We have Sense 3.x and 4, CM 9, AOKP, MIUI 4 and variations of these and they all seem stable functional (I know cm9 is anyway) so I'm not complaining.

*raises eyebrow* Well, it's very simple, really. You can either simply not flash those "new ROMs" you are talking about, or you can just create your own ROM. I don't see what the problem is, really. No one's pointing a gun at you asking you to flash those "useless" updates, right? Devs and ROM chefs put up these ROMs for free. You can take it or leave it.

what I am saying is there should be a way to tell what the new roms are from all the new pop up people and a not the same old rom with a diffent name
I want bugs fixed not added wall paper
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craven667 said:
what I am saying is there should be a way to tell what the new roms are from all the new pop up people and a not the same old rom with a diffent name
I want bugs fixed not added wall paper
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don't tell me ..you talking about new roms being made by new chefs ?????
well if that's the case...just ignore them if it pisses you that much....AOSP/AOKP are always about themes and arranging the stuff..properly...so some share their builds....that's fine...imo all AOSP/AOKP/CM9 rom builds almost have same issues..so the devs/chefs normally wont mention the bugs (assumed it is known to the people who knew cm9>..its a developers form ...so assumption is valid to an extent)
if you want to see what is there in that NEW ROM that desperately then judge them based on the stars that thread got...its just my suggestion
BUT if you are talking about proper ROMS. and their updates ...then you are completely wrong abt themes and all...they have proper changes and fixes....they wont make a release until there is a major change/fix...also they provide CHANGE LOG...which clearly explains what has been modified and what has been fixed

craven667 said:
what I am saying is there should be a way to tell what the new roms are from all the new pop up people and a not the same old rom with a diffent name
I want bugs fixed not added wall paper
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You could, uh, read the changelog and maybe some of the posts. You already know that ROMs generally come in a few flavours (Sense, AOSP/AOKP/CM9, MIUI, Senseless etc.) and, yea, some ROMs are simply kangs of others or may not be that different from the others. After all, what else can you do with a Senseless ROM? Or a Sense ROM? After the bugs have been ironed out and sorted, then the performance and stability of your phone would come down to the kernel, which is another whole level of development altogether. The ROMs that are indeed good and/or actively developed will soon gather a large following and you can tell from the post count (case in point: ROMs like OrDroid).
I still don't see why it should bother you that much. Like ganeshp says, just ignore them if it pisses you off that much. I'm sure there are bigger things to worry about in your life.

Lol not the point I look at change log but if the same rom is pushed three times no changes you have to install run for a bit then if you like or not there not making new roms there rrdoingbthe same ones over and over
Think we need a new rooms now the same one with or with out apps and wallpaper I want change
Who is that worried lol
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Sense 4+ with jellybean

Does anybody have a more specific eta for the update? HTC said it would be this month but it is almost over. Somebody enlighten me with anything?
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Well I unfortunately cannot enlighten you although I can say that month estimate would be for the international (Tegra). One X and for what I know it might be Christmas before AT&T or some other carrier releases jelly bean for the HTC One XL
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Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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ttinjust96 said:
Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers

bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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Wow dude, you can help yourself can you?
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That's why there are developers and custom roms
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bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.

d3v14n7 said:
You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.

Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?

Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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One factor is by that time most devs have probably moved onwards to more current devices.
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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They can use the official updates as a base and then make their ROM from there. The official updates contain all the drivers and features and its easy to build up. Making ROMs from scratch is difficult to say the least.

Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite... Having the OEM's official update makes creating custom ROMs MUCH easier, sure. But being easier doesn't make them better, in fact, its quite the opposite... The better custom ROMs come from being built off of the AOSP source, not from the OEM's source. ROMs built from the OEM's source will still have many of the official ROM's inherent flaws, which kinda defeats the purpose of custom ROMs to begin with (and the main reason why I haven't flashed anything onto my One X yet)... Then we have porting ROMs from other devices which is one of the main reasons why you see ROMs with missing features such as cameras, WiFi and so on, along with other bloat and garbage files/drivers that aren't needed for the device it's being ported onto, but may cause issues if removed completely whether its used or not.
The problem devs are facing now is that they're spread too thin throughout hundreds of devices, back in the HTC Dream/Tmobile G1 days, building ROMs from the AOSP source wasn't a problem because they were all working on the same device, and could pool their resources to turn out MUCH better, faster and stable ROMs at a MUCH faster pace... Today, that's seemingly impossible since there are so many great devices out there (and more being released every few months), not to mention the competition between devs for recognition and donations, which isn't good for the community as a whole... Devs simply cannot keep up, so instead of building off of AOSP (which takes longer), most of them build off of the official updated ROMs or ROMs ported from other devices to make things easier and have a faster turn around time. Not to mention there are many "devs" (and I use this term lightly) out there who simply copy and paste code around, add a few things here and there, add a launcher and theme, slap their name on it, call it a finished ROM and then ask for donations for all their "hard work" (again, using this term lightly), when in fact, all the hard work was already done by other devs... Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work devs do for basically nothing in return, and have donated to many who deserved it, without them, we'd be at the mercy of OEMs, which is never a good thing (see iOS), but there's only so much they can do on their own, and with so many handsets on the market, it's very difficult to stay focused on a single handset for more than 6-8 months...

I Concur...
bloodrain954 said:
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...

mjwitt2 said:
After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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superchilpil said:
Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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Exactly this. I came from the HTC Aria, who's last official update was 2.2. Currently, there are community built ICS and JB builds that are ~99% complete in terms of functionality.

I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.

superchilpil said:
Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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It's cool, I know what you are saying. I'm very grateful this community exists, and for brilliant developers that feed my addiction of flashing roms.
It's places like this that fill the gap between an OEM's product and our expectations.

olorolo said:
I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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It would be useless for you to do so, it has a completely different processor. And since we are due for an update soon our devs are just going to wait until its released to make a custom rom
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