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Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!
We really have no idea if/when AT&T will even release Gingerbread for this phone, so if you might have to root just to get it and install one of the Desire HD releases.
Rooting is not all that hard, the key is making the goldcard correctly. After that you can either do attn1's hack kit or Bubby's gui based method. After that install one of the stock rooted ROMS from the dev section.
cab121783 said:
Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!
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I guess there are questions as to what your actual goal is. Do you need to install non-market applications, do you need to really remove the stock AT&T additions? I am not sure I would call the AT&T additions bloated, they serve a purpose in a way most people would rather have served by other programs and therefore bloat the ROM but they are fairly well behaved and aren't that big.
If you check the development section there are rooted stock ROMs available. This will keep everything very close to the original HTC ROM with much of the AT&T extras removed. The rooting process is fairly straight forward if not a bit painful at times, with the hardest part being the process of finding an SD card that will work as a Gold Card. I rooted my phone as I needed some non-market applications from my company that can not be side loaded properly as part of their installation requires accepting a system change and they will not work without this confirmation.
As to Gingerbread coming to this phone, if the amount of time it took the Aria to get Froyo updates is any indication, don't wait for the official release. AT&T drags its feet on updates to phones after they get potential updates from the vendors. This is because they claim to be doing heavy testing internally to make sure the update process is smooth. Not sure I buy that but it does take a long time between versions, so if you are eager for some change on your phone root it now because your wait for an AT&T release will be long.
Basically, I want to keep the door open to do any customization I want as I learn what this OS and phone is capable of.
I'm an avid tinkerer with PCs and the Windows OS and I enjoy not being restricted to one set way to do things. However, I like the setup this phone has originally. I just don't like apps such ad AT&T Familymap, Navigator, Code Scanner, the asphalt game, and the worthless blockbuster app. They are the devil.
Seriously though, I'm all about custom goodies. But I also need a proven way if the phone goes haywire or gets damaged that I can restore to factory and send it in since I have insurance on the Inspire.
Hope this helps fill in the blanks as far as questions to how I'm going to use it. Appreciate the answers so far so please keep them coming!
Oh and I read some rumor that gingerbread was coming in May or June. Good point though on carriers dragging their feet. More than likely going to root now.
Rooting is probably going to be the same no matter what so you may as well do it. As for gingerbread you can get that now with CM7 RC2 is pretty good. If you font mind no htc sense its great and getting better. You can always try it and then change.
Sent from my Inspire "4G" using Tapatalk Pro.
Regarding your questions about going back to stock after obtaining root/s-off, it is a very simple process. As for rooting, the hack kit has a very detailed set of instructions.
After reading what you are looking to do, I would suggest moving to one of the rooted stock roms and playing with that. Then flash one of the gingerbread roms whenever you want to check them out. Of course, do a nandroid to save time going back to your previous setup.
You want to go ahead and root dont wait for at&t
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I rooted my phone with bubby's rooting program and have downloaded Core Droid Gingerbread version 4 and it is working great, the extra effects that they have added make it all that much more fun to have. I would not wait for AT&T at all.
Waiting for AT&T is like going through a White Castles drive-thru. You only do it if you have a great deal of time to waste.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
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Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g
I loved rooting my g1 and my mytouch slide 3g but i'm not sure if it's worth it with the sensation. i think the phone is great with the stock software and since it's already on 2.3.4, what are the benefits? it even has screen shot built in :/
please help!
The only thing that has me ever so slightly interested in rooting, is the Amaze camera mod, however I'm more inclined to sit tight and wait for an official update.
Having a Recovery based Backup through CWM and being able to backup with Titanium might be useful.
Also useful if you like removing bloatware.
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Mind you the phone works well as standard, so YMMV.
I like to root to have the newest updates.
In Swiss we had the problem that many branded Sensations had call problems (call aborted after one minute). A friend of mine had this problem, I with my rooted sensation not. So I rooted her device and flashed the newest Radio rom and the problem was gone...
You can also use the leaked Sense 3.5 Roms with a rooted phone ;-)
Look through all the threads in the development section and see all the things which you WONT get if you stay unrooted, all the things which you will miss out on, rooting gives you the ability to use programs which need lower level access than others, simply put you are missing out on a lot of features if you do not root, but hey no one has a gun to your head so make up your own mind, personally i find the whole rooting process worthwhile so i can flash custom roms and make my phone a better device to use.
The sensation on stock is a slow and underpar phone which could have been great, let down only by rushed development and poor handling of the code, if you flash a rom cooked up by one of XDA's dev's then you will see a huge difference in terms of performance and looks, there simply is no comparison.
Not rooted is like a computer but you are the user. While the rooted phone it acts like you are the admin you can do whatever you want to your precious phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation with Beats
I agree with all above.
I've rooted every android phone i've ever had, starting from the original desire.
It enables you to tinker with, and improve, on so many things. I also had incredible heat with my sensation on stock. I rooted it and it stopped.
I wouldn't even ponder the thought of keeping an android phone stock anymore.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with Beats Audio using xda premium
But again if you need to ask...you No need to root
Hi my name is DloBrown and Im A nightly addict who've been sober for too long!!!
I've got a question. I posed this question in a different thread, but thought that it'd spark an interesting discussion for T-Mobile customers.
HTC announced that they won't be releasing ICS until late March, but what about T-Mobile?
Do I have to wait until HTC releases ICS to T-Mobile, and then wait until T-Mobile decides to release ICS to the public via OTA?
That would really suck if we have to wait even more time for T-Mobile to bloat the crap out of ICS when HTC releases ICS in late March
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Since people have interpreted my post incorrectly, here's a quick statement to address the issue -
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.
first off why are you waiting ics is out now
second yes tmob sprint att vr will always bloat it up with there stuff like wifi calling and there crap so ota is off by a few eeeks or months UNLESS YOU COME HERE look is dev section for ics cant miss it
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first off why are you waiting ics is out now
second yes tmob sprint att vr will always bloat it up with there stuff like wifi calling and there crap so ota is off by a few eeeks or months UNLESS YOU COME HERE look is dev section for ics cant miss it
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You think I'm stupid or something? I KNOW that ICS custom ROMs are available right now.
I purposely choose not to install a custom ROM due to the countless issues that people report. I need a stable phone and my job requires me to have a functioning phone 24/7. I can't test out custom ROMs for that reason.
I'm waiting for ICS over OTA.
Last time HTC promised an OTA for the Sensation 4G (2.3.4), they were on time. I think they're probably working with T-Mobile to deliver it by March.
Well I think so to man .... All this help help **** I keep seeing after someone flashes a new Rom is getting old that's what u get for ****ing with the OS ... On the phone people should just wait for the real HTC ice cream ....
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For custom ROM's on ICS, they are perfectly stable now, many hundreds of users are happy using them as daily drivers.
For T-Mobile, we alread have WiFi calling perfectly functional (which is lucky because T-Mobile havent updated their app since 2.3.4) so if you want to waste time waiting for OTA, that is up to you but you won't get anything a custom ROM doesn't already give you
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ufokid22 said:
Well I think so to man .... All this help help **** I keep seeing after someone flashes a new Rom is getting old that's what u get for ****ing with the OS ... On the phone people should just wait for the real HTC ice cream ....
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That's a bit harsh and too much of a generalization. I'd be willing to bet money most of the "help help ****" you refer to is mainly because some people don't take the time to read the directions carefully before trying things out. I'm a bit paranoid myself and tend to read things over several times before trying something new. If you want to wait for the OTA that's your choice, just remember you don't get to complain about how long it takes
I am a T-Mobile USA user and I use ARHD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14192842&postcount=4 With no issues. My browser works, my GPS works, my email works, my camera /camcorder works, my WIFI calling works... please actually test a rom before you make a statement on how they don't work and you want a "stable" phone. All you have to do is make a backup of your current stock rom and flash a custom rom on your day off...
Most of custom sense roms are more stable than stock. The devs here have eliminated almost all the issues that HTC created. Custom roms are faster, have better battery life and make our phones work as they should. The majority of those people that complain and ask for help about stuff that they broke are lazy and dont take the time to read the instructions or even search for an answer! So you have to try something to judge it. The devs put a lot of time and effort on that builts and they do it for free!
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Most of custom sense roms are more stable than stock. The devs here have eliminated almost all the issues that HTC created. Custom roms are faster, have better battery life and make our phones work as they should. The majority of those people that complain and ask for help about stuff that they broke are lazy and dont take the time to read the instructions or even search for an answer! So you have to try something to judge it. The devs put a lot of time and effort on that builts and they do it for free!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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It's really happening that people just ask without even searching. Most of them ask about common issues and it's impossible not to find an answer in a thread like ARHD 6.2.1 which has literally 5000+ pages of posts in it.
ufokid22 said:
Well I think so to man .... All this help help **** I keep seeing after someone flashes a new Rom is getting old that's what u get for ****ing with the OS ... On the phone people should just wait for the real HTC ice cream ....
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I *kinda* see where you're coming from there.
The thing is, people have the right to "**** with the OS" all they want since they paid a premium for the phone but some people flash ROMs without taking risks into account and then ***** about problems without trying to search for solutions in the forums but the way you put it was kind of elitist if you ask me.
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It's really happening that people just ask without even searching. Most of them ask about common issues and it's impossible not to find an answer in a thread like ARHD 6.2.1 which has literally 5000+ pages of posts in it.
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Most of the issues in mike's ROM have been fixed by other's but mike doesnt update his ROM often so people are still posting about crap that has been solved.
Solution: dont always assume mike's ROM is the best, hunt around and find a different ROM you like
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/htc-talks-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade-on-facebook/
Take a look there....sensation 4g users should be getting ICS before the end of march
Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G
LPChris47 said:
You think I'm stupid or something? I KNOW that ICS custom ROMs are available right now.
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I don't want to sound crude, but if you know that ICS roms are available now, wouldn't you know that HTCs official RUU will be made into countless roms on this forum as soon as it's available?
I don't understand your question.
In all likely hood once HTC releases it most chefs would work from that. I don't know why they would need to wait for Tmobile just to cook a ROM based off of HTC source. The only useful thing you'd probably get from Tmobile is just radio info and maybe wifi calling if they make any changes.
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Whoa whoa whoa!
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.
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Whoa whoa whoa!
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.
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so if you don't plan on rooting your device.....WHY DID YOU JOIN XDA? LOL
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so if you don't plan on rooting your device.....WHY DID YOU JOIN XDA? LOL
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I've not rooted my phone and have no intentions to root, does that mean I shouldn't be here either....?
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so if you don't plan on rooting your device.....WHY DID YOU JOIN XDA? LOL
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He could of just joined XDA to gain some of the latest "Sensation 4g" news, maybe he's rooted other phones in the past, maybe he just likes to read upon development and he will eventually root and install a custom rom once he feels comfortable.
There's many reasons to be a member of XDA without a rooted phone. Many websites get their news from XDA first and then post it on their website. Why not just get the news directly from the source (XDA)?
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LPChris47 said:
Whoa whoa whoa!
You guys misunderstood me. Let me make this clear:
I am not bashing custom ROMs. I am not bashing developers. I know that devs put a lot of time and effort to bring custom ROMs to XDA members, and I greatly appreciate that.
I am not saying that an OTA update will be far superior to a custom ROM.
I choose not to root my phone and install a custom ROM because I have issues following directions. Inevitably, I would screw something up and have a phone with limited capabilities. I can't risk that happening to me, because my job requires me to have a fully functional phone 24/7.
I apologize if you guys took my post the wrong way. In no way did I mean any disrespect to XDA or developers of custom ROMs.
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I definitely get where your coming from. It takes time to get a custom ROM, flash it, and set up the home screens, and then realize you doing like htc locations being selected as default over Google maps, and then you have to search and find out how to change that. Once the official is out, you can just root, remove bloat you don't like,and not waste too much time. To each his own, that's the beauty of android, you can prefer to use it the way it comes, or get it cooked
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I've not rooted my phone and have no intentions to root, does that mean I shouldn't be here either....?
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Again like OP, it's your phone it's your choice on what to do with it. Seeing that you've already made close to a thousand posts, why leave now?
http://support.t-mobile.com/message/127344#127344
UPDATE on ICS rollout dates:
The Sensation 4G will not update in April. While I don't know with certainty when it is coming, I can tell you it will not be this month.
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UPDATE, most recent news is here. T-Mobile US testing is complete. OTA soon to come.
Update: T-Mobile confirms the Update will be available starting on Wednesday 5/16/2012.
Update: A flashable zip version of the T-Mobile Stock ICS OTA is already available here on XDA. Thanks to Paten for finding the thread and of course thanks to Steve0007 for making it available to the XDA community.
Update: WiFi Calling Mod ripped right from the T-Mobile ICS OTA is now up!
Update: Confirmation someone has received the official OTA.
No Big News...
No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.
Once again, if you want ICS bad enough study and learn the fine art of rooting your phone and pulling a custom rom. Plenty of them out there!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...ors-says-no-sensation-4g-ics-update-in-april/
From The Article on TMONEWS: "If T-Mobile could have releases the Sensation update already, they would have. Trust me."
Ummm when I hear trust me, I want to check and make sure my wallet is in my back pocket, my watch is still on my wrist and my fillings are still in my mouth.
Oh yea and Marketing has no control... MY ASS it doesn't!
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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Agreed!
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Tatdude806 said:
No big news here. I think we already knew that it wasn't going to happen. And all because of a new phone that is severely crippled, the One S.
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You're just wrong, but whatever...
crisisinthecity said:
You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.
The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.
The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.
Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.
Wrong is a state of mind...
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You're just wrong, but whatever...
How Am I Wrong? This is not the first time something like this has happened, and it won't be the last time either. In addition, the One S is crippled... No removable battery and no SD card slot... I call that crippled.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You're just wrong, but whatever...
As if it can't be more likely that T-Mobile sent the buggy ICS update back. We already know HTC just released a patch for it. So even HTC is not trying to proclaim the first ICS release was perfect.
The Sensation is on EOL with T-Mobile, they want the last update to be good enough to walk away from. Not have to deal with complaints and another later OTA patch.
The T-Mobile update matters, because that could be why we got a patch from HTC so quickly. Also, there's no telling if the T-Mobile edition might have other updates.
Yea, we're all running custom ROMs already, so no big deal there is a delay. But just the same, the topic is worth keeping an eye on.
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Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
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I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us
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crisisinthecity said:
Agreed. Just sick of reading post after post of furious people waiting on this ota. Why be mad when there is a simple solution? Don't get it.
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I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...
At Tatdude806, I agree with you. Wrong is a state of mind.
Now about the post that page of the T-Mobile forum thread. I for one was not expecting the update this month. To be honest if it gets pushed middle to late next month it will suprise me. But thanks for the info Darnell_Chat_TN.
Last if anyone thinks T-Mobile does not want to compromise any potential profits for the HTC One S by updating the HTC Sensation 4G too early. Well let me tell you, start thinking it cause it is no doubt in my mind it is. Yes Marketing may actually have no control over a software update, but profits do. Meaning if the higher ups in the T-Mobile corperate offices see it as a potential damaging factor to possible profits of the release of HTC's New flag ship device..
Tatdude806 said:
I am not mad, nor would I be over something like this. I could care less if TMO craps out tomorrow. I am just stating the obvious, sorry if no one else can see that...
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Wasn't aimed at you at all dude. You weren't complaining.
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Honestly I couldn't even imagine being stock waiting for a half assed ota TBH... Root your phone and give your self a better experience! just my two cents.
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ddizzy81 said:
I have T-Mobile USA as well and I'm enjoying ICS with Sense 4.0 with not a problem at all. You guys waiting on the OTA is just waiting for something u could of had MONTHS ago and honestly I feel its gonna b a letdown anyways because it probably wont even run as smooth as these roms our wonderful devs provide us
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True true wahahah let them wait lol we are having fun
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I'm sorry to hear it, though not really surprised. The vagaries of quality assurance between two companies makes it pretty inevitable that it would much longer than normal.
Though disappointing, I'd rather have a quality build with no errors - particularly in the trouble-some wifi calling app - than get a stock build that has to be patched ad nauseum.
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You can root and go back to stock with s on with ease, yet everyone still complains. Makes no sense to me. ARHD is pretty much stock and works perfectly. All of the T mobile stuff works flawlessly for me on my US 4G which leads me to my next point. T-Mobile US is definitely holding the release back waiting for the One to launch. Its their choice though.
Root and be happy. After all, this site is here for that sole purpose. Don't get why people are pissed off yet still holding out on rooting, when all of the tools are here for them. Its such a simple process!
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Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.
electrons said:
Not quite everything is in the ARHD release. I really miss the original swype keyboard from the stock rom. Maybe it could be added after ICS release by TMOUS, because I tried the swype beta, and did not like it as much as the original.
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I totally agree and want to see some ROMs based on the official US update when it comes out.
I'm just saying its crazy to let yourself actually get upset about it when you can get a fully functional ICS Rom loaded on your phone with ease.
As far as the peeps who need WiFi calling to work, (we are all adults here for the most part), use GB until the official ota drops and stop complaining. We are 100% certain it is in the works. GB works perfectly fine until then.
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Restoring Stock
To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
This doesn't surprise me...tipical T-Mobile slowness!
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To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
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In short, yes, you are wrong. If you are s-off rolling back software/firmware is simple and no more risky than it was to flash non-US ICS firmware and radio! Yes there is risk involved, but that same risk was there when flashing ICS so why worry now if you weren't worried before?
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To those of you that are saying it is a relatively simple matter to restore the phone to stock and S-On if you want following an ICS upgrade, am I wrong that to be left with the impression from what I've read that it is actually somewhat risky to roll back from ICS on the Sensation to the stock GB. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what I've seen, but the feeling I have is that yes it is pretty easy to upgrade to ICS, but that the firmware upgrade required to get ICS is difficult to undo if you want to rollback to the T-Mobile stock GB Rom.
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I've done it 4 times in the past two days... Just don't loose power in the middle of a radio flash...