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Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
mmmhhh86 said:
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
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Same thing with T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T network. Compare Rogers and Telus 3G bands. It might be different.
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
slight22 said:
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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lol yeah I think so. I think its called 1x or something like that. I'm not very familiar with the CDMA phones but they advertise that you can use the phone to surf 3G speeds on their network so I'm pretty sure they have 3G speeds.
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
slight22 said:
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
Telus EVDO is not slow. Unfortunately the HDPA network is not up yet but it should be online VERY soon as the Olympics are drawing close and this is the reason why Telus is upgrading the network before Feb. 2010 here in Vancouver.
keery458 said:
i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
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Where the heck are you located?? I'm using a TP2 with full EV signal and i'm getting 400-600k and that's in the downtown core. And from what telus tells me thats the best they can do till they put the HSPA network up. They said CDMA is only capable of 7-750k max, there is no getting over that. But i'd love to know how your getting 2.8 meg, because technically thats roughly 2100k faster than what telus says we can get.
And Jessie is right Telus has a goal to sell phones during the olympics and they plan to have the HSPA up by then.
Yup I'm pretty sure I saw Telus advertising their high speed somewhere
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
leepriestenator said:
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I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
julienrl said:
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
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Go to Phone Settings and select the Network tab then select GSM only instead of Global or CDMA
mmmhhh86 said:
Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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It is quadband gsm.... works on all continents.... provided it is unlocked or you are paying for global roaming.
hello guys, im going to purchase verizon tp2 cause they say it supports gsm and cheaper than the generic nonbranded version. tmobile's design i dislike. so as im going to use it only with gsm sim, i have such questions, are there any differences in use between gsm and vzw versions except i must select gsm mode? can i flash it with generic tp2 roms?
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okay, seems to be cdma versions cant be flashed to gsm as it is another model id(rhod400 and rhod500)
so i have one more question, will i be able to use internet on vzw tp2 without any restrictions on its stock rom now, when hardspl have not been released yet?
Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
surbringer said:
Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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I dont think so. I dont think there's a PRO 2 that supports our North American 3G bands.. At least not yet.. For the question above. Yes it is GSM quadband but not 3G quadband. This is different. It is 3G dualband and supports those of Asia and Europe only. Unfortunately.
That's a good and clear answer! Thx !
No problem. I think when and if AT&T or some North American GSM carrier releases the TP2, then the 3G will definitely work here in NA. Otherwise the current versions only support Asia and Europe.
Another question, can we install a custom ROM on the worldphone telus Touch Pro 2 like the other GSM phones? (I dont think so but I found two opposite answers on this forum).
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
Frixxion said:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Yes it will work but, if you want to use it on another gsm network in the Netherlands you will need to unlock it. I suggest you root it using the ace hack kit. I tested this method and I can say my phone is unlocked.
4G on the Inspire is HSDPA+ its just a upgraded 3g network. If your network in the Netherlands supports this you will have the same speeds or faster. Just check the freq for you home network with the inspire tech spec. I suspect it will work since its the same phone as the Desire HD sold in Europe.
Frixxion said:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Not if T-Mobile is your provider, T-Mobiles 3G/HSPA+ network uses different frequencies than the Inspire operates on. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their 3G/HSPA+. ATT and the Inspire use 850/1900 (which T-Mobile uses for Edge). So with T-Mobile you'll get voice and Edge data, but no 3G/4G
Inspire Specs
T-Mobile Wiki
homeslice976 said:
Not if T-Mobile is your provider, T-Mobiles 3G/HSPA+ network uses different frequencies than the Inspire operates on. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their 3G/HSPA+. ATT and the Inspire use 850/1900 (which T-Mobile uses for Edge). So with T-Mobile you'll get voice and Edge data, but no 3G/4G
Inspire Specs
T-Mobile Wiki
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T-Mobile in Europe uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the US (probably 900MHz or 2100MHz), but regardless, the Inspire won't support them.
yg17 said:
T-Mobile in Europe uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the US (probably 900MHz or 2100MHz), but regardless, the Inspire won't support them.
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Good point. Looks like T-Mobile in the netherlands uses GSM1800 and WCDMA2100 - which won't give you high speed data on the Inspire
The Inspire does not suppprt 3g bands that are commonly used outside of north america, so while the phone will generally work, you can only get 2g (edge) data in Europe/Asia/etc..
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Hey guys,
My friend just bought a HTC Sensation for T mobile from the states, (we are from Canada) and he wants to connect it on his Telus contract. Yes he does have a sim card, and he had it unlocked already. The problem is he is not getting any service and when he goes into settings and tries to register his network it only comes up with Rogers? Now I know that T mobile runs at 1700 MHz/2100 MHz and Telus at 1900MHz, but from what I have read else where it should work? If not, would changing to possibly a Bell modem work for his handset, or is he SOL?
thanks guys!
Since Telus only uses "4G" for their network, (ie. no EDGE/2g) a Sensation from T-Mobile will not work on Telus at all. Tell him to sell it and buy the Bell version and unlock it.
Haugrud said:
Since Telus only uses "4G" for their network, (ie. no EDGE/2g) a Sensation from T-Mobile will not work on Telus at all. Tell him to sell it and buy the Bell version and unlock it.
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Do you mean T-Mobile only uses 4G? The HTC Sensation is a 4G phone? Hence the name HTC Sensation "4g"??
Galaxy19000M said:
Do you mean T-Mobile only uses 4G? The HTC Sensation is a 4G phone? Hence the name HTC Sensation "4g"??
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Different 3G/4G frequencies (1700 aka AWS for T-Mobile and 850/1900 for Telus).
bachviet said:
Different 3G/4G frequencies (1700 aka AWS for T-Mobile and 850/1900 for Telus).
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So like he said there is no way of getting this phone to run on Telus lol? That kinda sucks, I told him he should have bought the SGS II like I did
Galaxy19000M said:
So like he said there is no way of getting this phone to run on Telus lol? That kinda sucks, I told him he should have bought the SGS II like I did
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Yeap there is no way. Sell the phone to a WIND user and buy the unlocked Bell one.
Hi all, im very new to XDA & have no knowledge of bandwidths. I just recently bought a HTC Sensation (not sure what model, but it was from a local guy). Had it unlocked so i can use it with my ATT plan. every thing was working fine except i had no data & couldnt send/recieve MMS. When first turned on, there was no APN settings on the phone, so i applied the settings stated in the thread APN settings for unlocked Sensation on ATT by mekajt7 on 09/05/11. Now i have data & MMS is working fine execpt my data is only 2G??
If there's anyone out there with more extensive knowledge regarding this topic, or how to get my phone to pick up 3G?? pleeeeeese leave a reply.
ive spent hours online reading about the bandwidths & ive been getting mixed results.... some said yes, it should work & most said no.
I'm in need of some answers
thanks for reading
the only way an sensation can pick up att 3g signals is if you buy one from canada made for their bell carrier. other then that all you can get is edge. if you want 3g or even better, 4g and be in the usa, you need tmobile
thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??
DMX804 said:
thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??
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The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.
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The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.
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so, T-Mo's is neither of these?? or is it the Z710e??
im just trying to get the model's correctly identified
thanks for the reply
T-mo is the same as european and asian version, it wont work with at&t 3G which is probably what you have. You need to get the canadian sensation from bell or virgin mobile model number z710a. If you look at settings>>about phone>>phone identity, the model number of your phone should be there. If it is z710e, then you are out of luck.
So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?
sjespers said:
So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?
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Yes the Canadian version can use AT&T 3G and HSPA+ network.
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
dr9722 said:
Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
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Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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Hmmmm
webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App
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Yea thats what im trying to understand. I read that there were two types of sensations, one from canada that supports att 3g, and the original which does not. But they said the model T-mobile sensation 4g, should support att 3g. Thats the thing im not understanding
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
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Yea i had an Iphone 3gs with a 3g data plan. And everything ive seen posted with unlocked sensations all have the same problem with att. But ive seen that there is a version that supports att 3g which is what im trying to figure out
This post has the bands that the T-Mobile htc sensation 4g supports:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
And this post says if it supports HSPA/UMTS/HSPA+ on 850 and 1900, it should support att 3g
http://androidforums.com/t/358106-unlocked-htc-sensation-4g-t-smart-phone-sim.html
The first post confirms that the phone supports both 850 and 1900 on HSPA+. All of this is new to me so if this is completely wrong then sorry. Just seems right to me.
It looks like the AT&T and T-Mobile networks are different, this is where I guess the issue is. The more I dug the worse it got. I have to admit that I'd assume this would be a simple answer but it looks like there are different flavours of 4G.
So apologies to the earlier poster that mentioned the frequencies.
cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
Jimmah555 said:
T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
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I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
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I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
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See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
cGrumm said:
See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
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Have you seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349755
It refers to: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php
As far as I know Bell Canada uses the same network frequencies as AT&T US.