Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
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Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
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Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
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Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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Hmmmm
webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
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Yea thats what im trying to understand. I read that there were two types of sensations, one from canada that supports att 3g, and the original which does not. But they said the model T-mobile sensation 4g, should support att 3g. Thats the thing im not understanding
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
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Yea i had an Iphone 3gs with a 3g data plan. And everything ive seen posted with unlocked sensations all have the same problem with att. But ive seen that there is a version that supports att 3g which is what im trying to figure out
This post has the bands that the T-Mobile htc sensation 4g supports:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
And this post says if it supports HSPA/UMTS/HSPA+ on 850 and 1900, it should support att 3g
http://androidforums.com/t/358106-unlocked-htc-sensation-4g-t-smart-phone-sim.html
The first post confirms that the phone supports both 850 and 1900 on HSPA+. All of this is new to me so if this is completely wrong then sorry. Just seems right to me.
It looks like the AT&T and T-Mobile networks are different, this is where I guess the issue is. The more I dug the worse it got. I have to admit that I'd assume this would be a simple answer but it looks like there are different flavours of 4G.
So apologies to the earlier poster that mentioned the frequencies.
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Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
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T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
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I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
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I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
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See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
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See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
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Have you seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349755
It refers to: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php
As far as I know Bell Canada uses the same network frequencies as AT&T US.
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Good day to you all,
I would like to know if there's any way at all that a T-Mobile G1 can access the Rogers 3G network. Radio update, etc?
I have posted this question in the Dream and Dream Q&A section with no responses. I'm sure this isn't specifically a development question, but you guys might know the answer.
Thanks!
no it is a hardware not a software limitation sorry
Not what I wanted to hear, but it makes sense.
So on the Rogers network, I'll be stuck with the EDGE data?
cursordroid said:
Not what I wanted to hear, but it makes sense.
So on the Rogers network, I'll be stuck with the EDGE data?
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yep sorry you could always but a tmobile sim for 3g use if you need it badly
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yep sorry you could always but a tmobile sim for 3g use if you need it badly
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The radio in the phone dictates the frequency, not the SIM right?
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The radio in the phone dictates the frequency, not the SIM right?
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yes but the normal g1 can not utilise these frequencies unless it falls between a specific range which the rogers 3g network does not. However the t-mobile ones do
correct - its a frequency thing, which is dictated by the radio hardware, not the sim or a software setting.
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yes but the normal g1 can not utilise these frequencies unless it falls between a specific range which the rogers 3g network does not. However the t-mobile ones do
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So the T-Mobile G1 is able to use the Rogers 3G network, but only if it has a T-Mobile SIM?
Am I understanding this correctly?
cursordroid said:
So the T-Mobile G1 is able to use the Rogers 3G network, but only if it has a T-Mobile SIM?
Am I understanding this correctly?
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nope it is only able to use a t-mobile 3g network with a tmobile sim. I meant you should buy a t-mobile sim for use with the t-mobile network if you really needed it.
JJbdoggg said:
nope it is only able to use a t-mobile 3g network with a tmobile sim. I meant you should buy a t-mobile sim for use with the t-mobile network if you really needed it.
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Damn... My imagination got my hopes up...
Thanks for the info!
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Damn... My imagination got my hopes up...
Thanks for the info!
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no problemo
i got a tmobile g1 , and im on gogers network , i get up to 2g , as far as i knew rogers doesn't supply full 3g yet
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i got a tmobile g1 , and im on gogers network , i get up to 2g , as far as i knew rogers doesn't supply full 3g yet
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Rogers definitely supports full 3G, it's 3.5G (HSDPA) as a matter of fact.
The G1 runs on a different frequency and can't access the Rogers 3G, only EDGE data network.
The point of this thread was to see if the G1 radio was capable of using the Rogers frequencies... Guess not...
Doesnt rogers carry the dream? Why get a Tmobile G1 when the Rogers Dream is the same phone except it uses the correct frequencies for 3G?
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Doesnt rogers carry the dream? Why get a Tmobile G1 when the Rogers Dream is the same phone except it uses the correct frequencies for 3G?
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I bought a 'bricked' G1 on eBay for $40. I fixed it in a matter of minutes. I figured it was a hell of a deal, but I didn't think about the fact that I would be missing 3G here in Canada.
I already own the HTC Magic 32A (Rogers), this G1 is just to play around with.
No idea why anyone brought up SIM cards or whatever. That's utterly irrelevant, and only served to confuse people. Thanks.
The radio in the TMO G1 only supports UMTS Band I (2100) and Band IV (AWS). The Rogers G1 supports Band II (1900).
My recommendation is to resell that fixed G1, and find yourself a Rogers Dream.
You can convert your HTC Dream to 3G in Canada by replacing the antenna. Here's a link to a (probably) T-Mobile antenna as an example. But if you can find one for Canadian frequencies... Good luck!
Ive had the g1 before the dream came out , if I were to get a dream do I root the same way with the downgrade then flash new Rom , I m running hero Rom right now on my g1 .
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Ive had the g1 before the dream came out , if I were to get a dream do I root the same way with the downgrade then flash new Rom , I m running hero Rom right now on my g1 .
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what are you talking about they are the same thing
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what are you talking about they are the same thing
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i remember reading ppl having trouble rooting roger dreams , but maybe its cuz they didn't know ,,,, thanks for the heads up
Hello,
I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.
On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.
I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?
You need 850 and 1900 UMTS bands.
There are two Sensations. The Z710e and Z710a. You have the e and you need the a.
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Hello,
I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.
On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.
I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?
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I'm afraid you have the wrong sensation. Like the post above said, you need the Telstra\Bell\Virgin mobile sensation which is z710a
Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.
kamikazees said:
Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.
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You need to get European version.
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No! European, T-mobile and Asian version wont work with at&t 3G. You need to get the z710a sensation
Ok, I just picked up a T-mob Sensation. It's unlocked but afer tossing my at&t sim card in it, its only displaying "E" I've tried a tinkering in the settings but no luck. To my understanding this isn't an issue with the Canda version, but thats no help to me being i dont have the Candian version.
I'm coming from an unlocked T-mobil unlocked Vibrant that I've used for a while now w/ an at&t sim & have always been able to get 3G/H. Is there a work around for this on the Sensation ? Or am I simply screwed & have to resell it ? I love the phone & have wanted it for a while now but cant deal with only being stuck on EDGE. Thanks
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Ok, I just picked up a T-mob Sensation. It's unlocked but afer tossing my at&t sim card in it, its only displaying "E" I've tried a tinkering in the settings but no luck. To my understanding this isn't an issue with the Canda version, but thats no help to me being i dont have the Candian version.
I'm coming from an unlocked T-mobil unlocked Vibrant that I've used for a while now w/ an at&t sim & have always been able to get 3G/H. Is there a work around for this on the Sensation ? Or am I simply screwed & have to resell it ? I love the phone & have wanted it for a while now but cant deal with only being stuck on EDGE. Thanks
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Hi,
It could just be that a radio upgrade is all you need.
Check HERE
The Tmobile Sensation only has AWS bands. It does not support the 3G bands of AT&T. The Vibrant on the other hand had all the bands.
yeah, no matter what you do.. you won't get 3G using the tmob bands and yes, it's an issue to canada versions. If I used it right now (on Rogers) I would also only get Edge. the only companies I would get 3G on are the new companies using the AWS bands such as mobilicity/wind/etc. The big 3 would have an issue!
That's weird that you've been using t-mobs vibrant.. maybe someone else can enlighten us!
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The Tmobile Sensation only has AWS bands. It does not support the 3G bands of AT&T. The Vibrant on the other hand had all the bands.
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So basically im screwed ?
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So basically im screwed ?
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Yes pretty much sorry to say
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Looking for a rom that is setup for art USA or if I can get some help setting this phone for use on the art network.
im pretty sure they all work on at&t. if it doesnt already have the APN detected and working, you can always enter it yourself. try arhd. cant go wrong
In case u didn't see it already, be aware the tmo-us sensation can't use ATT's 3/4G (3.5G?) network. I experimented with a buddy's att sim card and only got EDGE where his inspire got full bars of H+. I hear the Canadian sensation works great with att
Thanks for the info.. how come sensation can't use Matt 4g
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oh right, your moving from tmo to att?
well if your using a tmo sensation, then you cant get 3g/4g speeds due to the phone/network different radio bands. to get 3g/4g on att you need a bell, telus, or telstra sensation i think
If I get my sensation unlocked, would I be able to get AT&T 3g/4g?
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it depends on what kind of sensation you got. only bell and telstra versions of the sensation will work with at&t 3/4g. all others you will only get 2g
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it depends on what kind of sensation you got. only bell and telstra versions of the sensation will work with at&t 3/4g. all others you will only get 2g
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Its the Sensation 4g TMO US... I tried my friends sim card and I only got edge with at&t
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Unfortunately, with the T-Mobile Sensation, you can only get EDGE working on AT&T since AT&T uses different frequency bands than T-Mobile for 3G/4G.
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Unfortunately, with the T-Mobile Sensation, you can only get EDGE working on AT&T since AT&T uses different frequency bands than T-Mobile for 3G/4G.
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I have realized that, since I tried my friend at&t sim card
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I wonder if we can unlock all the bands. I'm imagining we could at least switch over to the other bands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Didn't realize the bell version had different bands until now.
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I wonder if we can unlock all the bands. I'm imagining we could at least switch over to the other bands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Didn't realize the bell version had different bands until now.
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That's a good idea... How about you try and report back on how it works out... I would but this is my only phone at the time due to me just selling my G2x
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I was told us version is missing hardware but I don't think so don't see HTC changing just for T-Mobile
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I will only work on edge now the amaze with work on at&,T's 3,4g service.
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I will only work on edge now the amaze with work on at&,T's 3,4g service.
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Yea, I figured that out.... A guy that offered me his Amaze told that it worked with at&t 3g/4g
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milton try this on att i dont have cell service but fix the firmware from that bell post to work radio is updated to bell south hboot will work i have it on mine but no att service or cell service i use wifi cuz i am broke lol
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3r2d0hodyb8j29/PG58IMG.zip
I think you're going to need to explain what you posted
well from what i can tell nothing new lol
its bell south firm i seen someone had trouble with new hboot so i changed it to 3.32 what we have and rezipped it but i dont have a att sim to test this with
but i dont see anything different but worth a shot seeing how i am going to att or simple mobile soon
modem and the like aren't included in ruu files. you'd have to dump those partitions and flash manually
what are the supported umts frequencies for the bell sensation? if someone wants to dump a bell sensation's modem partitions, i'm sure someone would be willing to flash, possibly myself included, although any sign of it "working" would be if i lost tmobile umts (assuming it's not a quad/pentaband umts modem).
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well from what i can tell nothing new lol
its bell south firm i seen someone had trouble with new hboot so i changed it to 3.32 what we have and rezipped it but i dont have a att sim to test this with
but i dont see anything different but worth a shot seeing how i am going to att or simple mobile soon
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I'm using simple mobile now and my sensation works fine, because it runs off of Tmobile's towers... I was asking if the sensation 4g worked on at&t because I was trying to make a trade with someone for a Amaze but they had at&t
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