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Telus cdma + rogers gsm

I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
I got Bing to work... so there is a GPS.... but Google Maps won't work...
Just thought I'd share my joy...

there is a telus gps registry fix on pccgeeks.

GPS works... i have google maps, tomtom7, and bing running fine, but sometimes, getting a lock can take very long
still new to winmo, so not too much going on with the phone, but am learning =b

zedex26, you are right!! there is a GPS!
The only thing is that I can't make Google Maps to work... it instals but when starting it it keeps on saying Loading... and never opens.
Anyway now were talking!! it has almost everything I was used to... But NO "Camera Flash" not that it was so usefull as camera flash but as a "FlashLite" it was...

patrickrivard said:
zedex26, you are right!! there is a GPS!
The only thing is that I can't make Google Maps to work... it instals but when starting it it keeps on saying Loading... and never opens.
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in google map
go to menu -- option -- gps setting -- use manual com 4
go back in option select "use gps"
close
reset your device
should work

inspireqc,
I finally got GM to work... Don't know why but the device needed to be on the CDMA network in order for the program to load... because on the GSM network, the program does not even load... it keeps on saying "Loding" and I could not even access the program... It's like it does not see the data connection...
Anyway There are other maping SW that work very well on both network on that particular device.

patrickrivard said:
inspireqc,
I finally got GM to work... Don't know why but the device needed to be on the CDMA network in order for the program to load... because on the GSM network, the program does not even load... it keeps on saying "Loding" and I could not even access the program... It's like it does not see the data connection...
Anyway There are other maping SW that work very well on both network on that particular device.
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I've found that I have to manually switch the data connection in order to use Google Maps when I switch between GSM and CDMA. It does work w/ both, however it's much better when I'm on Telus b/c this TP2 can't use Rogers 3G network. Keeping my fingers crossed for when they finally crack this baby open and hopefully find that the North American 3G freqs are there.

patrickrivard said:
I'm trying out a new TP2-CDMA from Telus (Canada) and this is by far the best system I could ever try in my case. I've always been a GSM user (since 1994) mostly because it gives you the latitude of using what ever device you want just by inserting your SIM card. so I got the Phone Inserted my Rogers SIM in it and it got me on the Rogers network right away I then activated the phone on the Telus network and it is also working fine... of course...
But the best thing is that I set it on "Global" network and it stays on GSM (Rogers), and when I get to an area where there is no GSM signal it switches by it self to the CDMA (Telus) network!!! this is amazing! NO MORE DEAD SPOTS! Of course you need to have two Service contract from two different service provider, but if you absolutely need to get service in areas where your current provider does not offer any, well it sure beats the hell out of having two different cellphone in your pocket... I have set my main cell number to transfer to the other on "No Answer after X # rings" and I get all my calls no mater what network I'm on!
The only down side to this TP2-CDMA Unit is that Telus got rid of a bunch of stuff that is in the TP2-GSM... like the GPS for instance... Well I guess you can't have it all...
I got Bing to work... so there is a GPS.... but Google Maps won't work...
Just thought I'd share my joy...
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I have both iGuidance 4 and Google Maps working, I am aware that some people have it working out of the box and some don't

Did you have to sim-unlock your phone first?
My friend looked up the technical specs of our chipset and they do support North American HSPA but it is not available, either by a hardware or firmware\software lock.

WOW
GSM and CDMA both work... that's fantastic.
Does this mean that it hold 2 different SIM cards? Or is the CDMA part devoid of a SIM card?
Would it be possible to use a GSM SIM card from any provider around the world and reconfiure the CDMA part to work with any CDMA network around the world?

julienrl said:
Did you have to sim-unlock your phone first?
My friend looked up the technical specs of our chipset and they do support North American HSPA but it is not available, either by a hardware or firmware\software lock.
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I have heard its a hardware lock! Wish someone can unlock it...

ai6908 said:
I have heard its a hardware lock! Wish someone can unlock it...
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well i would think it would be a radio issue have the same with mine. use it strict on rogers. i also looked up a little but the tp2 telus is 800 and 1900mhz hspa and rogers system is 850 and 1900mhz hspa so the frequency may be a issue as well.

anyone know how to fix the caller id name problem while on gsm?

Canadian folks, or TP2 users in CA, i have a Sprint TP2 thAT i would like to get to work in CA, what is the best scenario for both voice and data,thanks a lot

hbenz2008 said:
Canadian folks, or TP2 users in CA, i have a Sprint TP2 thAT i would like to get to work in CA, what is the best scenario for both voice and data,thanks a lot
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for sprint phone i would stick to telus or bell unless you can put a sim card in your phone then your looking at rogers and the cdma global phone wont work on 3g rogers just edge

Thanks hiwire men, Sprint TP2 is a World phone as you know and will take any SIM, so you saying it wont get 3G with Rogers? why is that, is it Rogers or what is the reason? and hand how is Telus and Bell do it, they just input it in their database and bam, or will it require some ROM flashing. thxxx

hbenz2008 said:
Thanks hiwire men, Sprint TP2 is a World phone as you know and will take any SIM, so you saying it wont get 3G with Rogers? why is that, is it Rogers or what is the reason? and hand how is Telus and Bell do it, they just input it in their database and bam, or will it require some ROM flashing. thxxx
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after reading up if you want 3g on rogers network you need a tilt 2 do to the fact rogers uses umts/wcdma 850/1900 mhz sprint is 900/1900 BUT the edge network will work on your sprint phone to rogers other then that it is it. rogers is doing alot of work on their 3g network and i think most of the fido network is 1900 mhz and rogers is 850mhz 3g but i think personally it may work in the future but not gonna be anytime soon. The 3g should work on telus and bell and might on fido ill have to see my friend and try it out. but i know for sure right now it dont work with rogers.

thank again, I do not have any FIDO preference, I assume coverage with Telus or Bell are about the same.So just walk the TP2 to the TELUS or Bell store and it is done?

hbenz2008 said:
thank again, I do not have any FIDO preference, I assume coverage with Telus or Bell are about the same.So just walk the TP2 to the TELUS or Bell store and it is done?
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thats right i would say telus since sprint is a partner

Highwired, did u get a chance to try out TP2 on Fido? am still reading elsewhere that sPRINT tp2 can't get 3G in CA, WTH

Using Rogers dream outside canada...

Hi everyone, i am new to android devices and to this forum as well. My cousin sent me a ROGERS DREAM from canada, i am using it in PAKISTAN, its got android 1.6
i want to be able to use a diffrent 3rd party rom's, i went through a lot of forums and blogs and found out there are diffrent methods to root thr rogers dream and tmobile G1!!
Which one should i follow ?!!
Waiting for your quick reply... Thanks

It will work if the other network is GSM but you will get EDGE unless it uses the same 3G frequencies as the Rogers Dream which ATT does.

Ace42 said:
It will work if the other network is GSM but you will get EDGE unless it uses the same 3G frequencies as the Rogers Dream which ATT does.
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Thnx for the reply ace42,
3G is not the issue, as 3G service is not yet available in pakistan!!
Yeah, it does feel like living in stone age!!
My question is still un-answered, which method of rooting should i use?? The tmobile g1 method or rogers dream method???

[Q] *** Unlokced Sensation dispplaying "E" only ! ***

Ok, I just picked up a T-mob Sensation. It's unlocked but afer tossing my at&t sim card in it, its only displaying "E" I've tried a tinkering in the settings but no luck. To my understanding this isn't an issue with the Canda version, but thats no help to me being i dont have the Candian version.
I'm coming from an unlocked T-mobil unlocked Vibrant that I've used for a while now w/ an at&t sim & have always been able to get 3G/H. Is there a work around for this on the Sensation ? Or am I simply screwed & have to resell it ? I love the phone & have wanted it for a while now but cant deal with only being stuck on EDGE. Thanks

doin-it said:
Ok, I just picked up a T-mob Sensation. It's unlocked but afer tossing my at&t sim card in it, its only displaying "E" I've tried a tinkering in the settings but no luck. To my understanding this isn't an issue with the Canda version, but thats no help to me being i dont have the Candian version.
I'm coming from an unlocked T-mobil unlocked Vibrant that I've used for a while now w/ an at&t sim & have always been able to get 3G/H. Is there a work around for this on the Sensation ? Or am I simply screwed & have to resell it ? I love the phone & have wanted it for a while now but cant deal with only being stuck on EDGE. Thanks
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Hi,
It could just be that a radio upgrade is all you need.
Check HERE

The Tmobile Sensation only has AWS bands. It does not support the 3G bands of AT&T. The Vibrant on the other hand had all the bands.

yeah, no matter what you do.. you won't get 3G using the tmob bands and yes, it's an issue to canada versions. If I used it right now (on Rogers) I would also only get Edge. the only companies I would get 3G on are the new companies using the AWS bands such as mobilicity/wind/etc. The big 3 would have an issue!
That's weird that you've been using t-mobs vibrant.. maybe someone else can enlighten us!

Jackasaur said:
The Tmobile Sensation only has AWS bands. It does not support the 3G bands of AT&T. The Vibrant on the other hand had all the bands.
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So basically im screwed ?

doin-it said:
So basically im screwed ?
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Yes pretty much sorry to say
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[Q] Sensation data problem

Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure

cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?

dr9722 said:
Did you get 3G before when the device was S-On and a stock image?
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Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.

cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App

cGrumm said:
Yea when my cousin had it stock for tmobile everything was fine with it. 3g and 4g worked for him. Then when i started using it for att i had to put in custom apn which only allows me to reach 2g. I've seen a lot of people say its not compatible unless you have a certain version, my model is the tmobile htc sensation 4g...thats what it tells me in my phone settings.
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So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App
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Hmmmm

webstar1 said:
Learn more ablut radio and frequencys. Basically u cant get 3g unless u have a bell sensation
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App
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Yea thats what im trying to understand. I read that there were two types of sensations, one from canada that supports att 3g, and the original which does not. But they said the model T-mobile sensation 4g, should support att 3g. Thats the thing im not understanding

gol_n_dal said:
So from what you're saying the phone has worked fully on both 3G & 4G on the TMobile network. Looking at the AT&T website their all their phones are either 3G or 4G. So it should work.
Does your AT&T contract support 3G ? I know when I got my first 3G enabled phone they had to ship me a 3G SIM card for it to work. It might be that it's the SIM card that's the issue. I've never had to modify APNs etc. even when swapping network providers away from Vodafone. Insert the new SIM and it just works.
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Yea i had an Iphone 3gs with a 3g data plan. And everything ive seen posted with unlocked sensations all have the same problem with att. But ive seen that there is a version that supports att 3g which is what im trying to figure out

This post has the bands that the T-Mobile htc sensation 4g supports:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/sensation4g-tmobile#tech-specs
And this post says if it supports HSPA/UMTS/HSPA+ on 850 and 1900, it should support att 3g
http://androidforums.com/t/358106-unlocked-htc-sensation-4g-t-smart-phone-sim.html
The first post confirms that the phone supports both 850 and 1900 on HSPA+. All of this is new to me so if this is completely wrong then sorry. Just seems right to me.

It looks like the AT&T and T-Mobile networks are different, this is where I guess the issue is. The more I dug the worse it got. I have to admit that I'd assume this would be a simple answer but it looks like there are different flavours of 4G.
So apologies to the earlier poster that mentioned the frequencies.

cGrumm said:
Can anyone help me. I unlocked the sensation for me to use with att. Everything is fine, rooted, s-off, cwm recover works, and so does everything else. Except data and mms. I googled the apns to use and that worked, somewhat. I now can recieve mms but data only gets up to 2g but roams a lot. Is there a way to get att 3g on this phone? I heard it was unable but just want to make sure
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T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.

Jimmah555 said:
T-Mobile US Sensation (Z710E) DOES NOT support anything higher than 2G on AT&T's networks because it doesn't operate on the proper 3G frequency. The Bell Sensation (Z710A) from Canada DOES work on AT&T 3G because its hardware uses the proper frequency.
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I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.

gol_n_dal said:
I thought the Z710a is the US T-Mobile 4g version, My Z710e is a European 3G only version.
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See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.

cGrumm said:
See thats where im getting confused too. People said the version that CAN aquire att 3g is the t-mobile 4g model. But regardless it isnt picking up anything but edge so he is right. Is there anyway to change the hardware for it to work? I dont have money for another phone so if i can, id do that.
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Have you seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349755
It refers to: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_4g-3922.php
As far as I know Bell Canada uses the same network frequencies as AT&T US.

can not get 4g(at&t) on verizon galaxy s3!!!

ok, i got some problem with the verizon galaxy s3. I use at&t simcard on this phone and it seems working just fine. Here's a thing, after set apn setting on the phone i just only get edge speed(2g), i need someone helps me to figure out how to get the 3g/4g speed on this phone or give me a right apn setting for this. i really appreciated. thanks very much!

The bands for AT&T 3G/4G are locked on the handset, you are going to have stick on edge sadly!!

djteotancolis said:
The bands for AT&T 3G/4G are locked on the handset, you are going to have stick on edge sadly!!
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really? so there's no way to unlock these bands? I might consider to resell this phone again. Anyways, thanks for your reply!

hunbemylover said:
really? so there's no way to unlock these bands? I might consider to resell this phone again. Anyways, thanks for your reply!
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Till now no one figured out how to unlock the bands! so your outta luck..would suggest trading it in for a AT&T phone!

djteotancolis said:
Till now no one figured out how to unlock the bands! so your outta luck..would suggest trading it in for a AT&T phone!
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It's not a worst thing though. I got this one for only 100$ off craiglist and it works just fine. It just does not work right with a data, remind me of few years back when 2g was a fastest data service lol. Thanks again for let me know this issue.

AT&T runs on GSM band while Verizon runs on a CDMA network. I'm surprised your SIM even works. What other said is correct though, you are restricted to the slow 2G Edge speeds.

DarkMenace said:
AT&T runs on GSM band while Verizon runs on a CDMA network. I'm surprised your SIM even works. What other said is correct though, you are restricted to the slow 2G Edge speeds.
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Well the S3 is a World phone, hence it comes with GSM bands too! if you hit Europe or Asia you will get 3G

djteotancolis said:
Well the S3 is a World phone, hence it comes with GSM bands too! if you hit Europe or Asia you will get 3G
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Right it does. But they use different bands in other countries. Our phone isn't capable of using any and all bands. Only certain ones. If somehow these bands were unlocked, then you could get 3g here.
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